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Answer the question. You decided!

Why not?

what protest?

I meant what protest and when? i KNOW SOMETHING was being planned but it's all gone quiet.

"Move on, there's nothing to see here"  

Frank Dreben, Police Squad, standing in front of a fireworks factory that a petrol delivery lorry had just driven into.

Your mate Ben not been in touch then?

I've heard that the Board and some of the youth teamers are planning a "protest to end all protests".  Ray Hardman's gonna make a comeback, to rival Elvis' back in 68.

surly if you are planning a protest then people should know about it instead of 20 people on a message board standing out the back of the arkells or whatever. I for one won't be taking part in any protest however I hope common sense prevails and it's not done during a game.

The plan is to build a wall around the ground during the match so when the people inside the ground leave after the match it'll create the illusion that the ground has had a makeover.  

So if you see 1,000 construction workers mulling around pre match you'll know whats going on.

very funny smartass! That's so 2004 :beers:

Ha ha, I thought you'd like that one Gazza!!

To be honest That wasn't one of my more intelligent posts! Mind you I'm yet to find ONE intelligent post from myself. I may retire from this forum???  (ANOTHER CLASSIC) :wink:

I remember that, the self proclaimed retirement!!!

Yes and then I throw the strop because people take the mick/jesting. ah those were the days!  :D

I wish you would

And why is that? Because I won't dress like a satsuma?

perhaps something of a judgment and foresight issue, only guessing...

 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Funny as fuck Gazza

I was ofcourse referring to the anti king brigade!

Gazza you don't really think anyone is going to give you details of the protest, so that you can dob on the rest of us to your new friends do you?

no because you're a fucking idiot.

Ah such kind words from someone who is obviously very mature

All I was saying is, I hope a protest doesn't happen during the game. Knowing Fred I'm sure he wouldn't allow this to happen anyway.

Gaz, can I ask you a question?

Do you want the current board in or out?

that's what you think, if only 10 of our players come out for the second half, don't be surprised.

 Is Fred holding one as well then.....Sat is going to be a veritible protest fest.

well its obvious the 12th man will be not be present

I want to win promotion back to League One.

Did that nice man tell you it wouldn't happen if those nasty fans got their way?

soapy tit wank nah I don't care who is in charge, current board, power, rikki hunt, brady whoever as long as we get promotion and sort out the CVA.

 I don't really want to start an argument, but surely even you can work out Gazza that the only reason for a decent season this year was because of Power and Devlin....even if we did go up the present Board would soon get us back down.

I think you're probably about the only person in Swindon who wouldn't care if Rikki Hunt came back!

...which probably tells us everything we need to know?!

For a self-professed informed individual, thats one hell of a naive statement.

Well I don't see the CVA being sorted too well with this current board!!! Promotion yes...what happens after that is anybody's guess

Even if the CVA is 'sorted' etc etc, what will happen after that. People will protest a year too late if we're battling relegation in league 1 next season or struggling to win promotion in league 2 (again).

What rubbish have they been filling your head with then? Its easy saying sort out the CVA etc. but the question is HOW! How do you propose the current board will do this for us, how do you propose the current board will stabilise this club.  How do you suppose they can regain confidence from the fans?

The answer is clearly not that simple.  Think long term and you will see the current board cannot possibly benefit this football club in any way.

You're so full of shit Gary.

Wise up.

The board, however nice they've been to you, aren't going to give you a seat on the board or make you a fans' representative.

You're so fucking naive that it's actually quite terrifying.

Having never met Gary, i don't want to comment as if I know the bloke, so on a purely objective level, if the board were looking for a fans rep, after stating that they don't like the idea of it (see Seton Wills' outburst a while back) then it'd be for show, to placate those that have called for it now....without having any of the practical uses that we want outof it.

They would go for somebody impressionable and naive enough to accept what they say to them as gospel and perhaps have the means, by way of a networked website perhaps, to promote their views. They might also go for someone who loved the fact they were the 'chosen fan' so much and felt that fantastically important, that they'd be blind to the diabolical reality of it all.

Now, I don't for one second suppose our board could possibly be systematic and indeed wise enough to appoint someone who wouldn't have the nouse to ask them probing questions in a fans rep position - so it's obviously not the case, and this is obviosuly, in no way applicable to whatshisface.

i.e. Gary Stanley.

damn, i think i blew my chance when i took over this place  :mrgreen:

I don't re-call saying I wanted a seat on the board and besides if the Trust have been campaigning for a seat on the board for years why would I think they would give me one after they know I was on the Trust board?

Spot on, but the best bit for me is that the Board haven't a clue how to stop him damaging their position even more as he blunders on in his naive attempts to rewrite history and promise us jam tomorrow. They really have underestimated the intelligence of the fans - he was sussed as soon as he started.

Is there no end to their ineptitude?

People may say I am naive or whatever but being quite honest, seeing the abuse the current board get I wouldn't want a "fans" position on the board anyway, It would take a lot of convincing, just need to look at the facts. If it all went tits up people would blame "that fan" for not noticing it etc or making people aware of it, would I really want that on my shoulders? No.

I am happy to make suggestions and give my opinion etc and have told the club how I and other fans would be opposed to a move to Chippenham and a rise in ticket prices next season even if we are promoted. It's best to keep these big crowds going, especially young fans who are the future, get them hooked before they start wactching Chelsea, Man Utd etc.

People don't see this as ofcourse it does not get posted on here. Anyone can write to the club explaining how they feel. I have always had a response and would imagine you would too.

If people do have serious complaints etc I would write or call the club.

And fans can expect an honest response with no lies whatsoever?

Gaz, people have lost faith because of all the bulls**t the club have told us in the past.  Once they have got themselves into that situation they will struggle to regain support from the fans.

Look what happened to Mex around Xmas time when him and his family were treated so badly by the club..........classic example of the club not dealing with an issue properly.  They are paying a price for their incompetence.............only brought on by themselves.

..and round we go again....and again...and again.

Broken record.

lets have an example Gazza

Q: Are you up to date with the CVA?
A: We have met all current requirements.

Q: Are we going to move to Chippenham.
A: It's a last-resort.

Now, given the answer to the first question, which has been shown to be an utter lie, why do you have such confidence that the second one is accurate? Even if it were accurate, and it was the 'last-resort', that is too much - the consideration of it is too much and to me, shows that they place their back pockets over the concerns of thousands of fans.

Because if this is guaranteed money and they could meet the CVA now becasue of this move then surly they would have already moved or B announced plans to officially move so they can get loans etc on the back of the stadium development at J17 and make money off the stadium development NOW.

I have no idea who you really are Gaz. From what I have read of you you seem a decent enough person and well known to many equally passionate fans.

All that said, you do seem a tad naive mate. I have no idea what agenda you are working to; dazzled by the attention of the temporary power brokers at the county ground maybe? the promise of a position of high office one day?

One thing I can guarantee though is that you are making a right cunt of yourself by being so non-confrontational about the obvious shitty situation between the board and fans. I would have no problem with you disagreeing with popular opinion and putting your point of view accross as best you can, but your oh so fucking obvious attempts to 'concentrate on promotion' etc are just taking the piss.

Makes no odds to me personally gaz but you definately have carved yourself out a front seated slot in the soon to be launched  'STFC supporters Cunt of the year' competition.

If anyone has a nice pic of Gaz lying around, please post it up so that I can get one of my lazy studio geeks to work on it :wink:

theres a whole thread of them

They're even writing your script now.

There is no way on this earth that Gazza wrote that himself. :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

There you go delta

http://www.thetownend.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=679&highlight=deface+stanley

Anyway quite how this forum came to discuss half threads about one of the people that was the reason for setting it up in the first place is beyond me.

Gary's comments won't do any harm here. Maybe on other sites with some of the more impressionable folk.

The Board apologists are beginning to sound like flammableBen pretending he hasn't got GRID in the hope it just goes away one day.

It's all true.

:nod:

Gary - I've got a lot of time for you and have nothing against you but please don't be so naive, you're making a fool of yourself.

Absolute fucking class!

You know as well as anyone (or do you) that there's more to moving a football club than merely announcing it.

Can't be arsed, it's like trying to explain the ins and outs of the Cold War to a toddler and getting the reply 'they could just be friends'

agreed. I may even post some more pictures for people to deface. Except for the Oxford one they are all class