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I see he has refused the offer from the club to pay his contract up.Not Acceptable :evil:

Well its not acceptable to produce shit everytime you put a swindon top on either so kindly fuck off please

Nothings ever simple is it.

What a cunt, why doesn't he just take the money and go? Unless they're not offering the full value of his contract, which is most likely true.

no they are not  offering the full value if they did that they might aswell keep him.he hasnt offered us his true ability though so he should be man enough and admit it and move on

if i were him i wouldn't.thats contracts for you.

well you are a cunt then :D

He must be on good money because he came from Wigan the year they got promoted to the premiership.

Chances are no other team would want him now, but if anyone did they'd pay him peanuts.

he still has a season and a half to run.
kingy signed him!
3 years for a 32 year old.madness

You're not wrong. He must have a good agent.

To be fair to him he has bills like the rest of us and has probably budgeted his outgoings according to his contact length.

Would you or I take a lesser payoff when a) it would be difficult to find other employment b)He probably feels agrieved to be kicked out the club ?

i reckon he'd be one of the top earners here too

But if i was doing shit day in day out at work I'll get sacked. No ifs No buts. I cant say to my boss nah not going.

Good point.

I would imagine that rhe failure to lose Whalley would hamper Sturrock's plans for January?

he would be quick enough to wanna leave if a better offer came,tbh the fact that no one seems to have came in for him tells you everything

at his age he should be wanting to play first team football, so unless the club have offered him peanuts then you'd think he'd bite their hand off to get out of here.

i do think he's a cunt though. he's spent most of his time here out injured and the rest of the time looking completely ordinary.

his legs have gone badly.what convinced me was last season against brentford at home where he was left for dust when the fella broke from near our box and ran the length of the pitch and scored.
made whalley look a right cunt,he just couldn't run

Cant the club terminate his contract legally! If he is constantly injured ???
Sure i read in some papers that players contracts have been terminated due to on going injuries....

What does it cost the club if someone shot him instead?  :twisted:

in that case he should realise he's not fit to play professional football anymore and call it a day!

yeah and kiss goodbye to 2 years pay!kingy's fault for giving him such a long contract.
lets be realistic, he aint gonna budge unless he's paid a decent wedge

which makes him a complete and utter cunt who is rinsing the club for his own good...so why the fuck are you defending him?!

I think it has to be mutual.  I really rated him after Vale away last year, he looked very lively and ran the midfield IMHO and I thought he was going to get fir and run the show for us, but injury followed and he's been a massive disappointment.  Shame things can't get sorted, I'm sure at the right club with some fitness he'd be an asset.

Spot on sonic,arriba its also the boards fault for allowing it but i suppose this is one of the deals md did not do

Also this makes him no different to ruddock in my opinion

i aint defending him at all!!!!!
i have said i would have done the same as him as a pro.
i wouldn't kiss goodbye to money i was owed because somebody-ie sturrock deemed me surplus to requirements.
unlike us whalley works for the club and hold no loyalty.this is the case with nearly evey footballer.
they hold the power in football nowadays.
i'd love to see the back of him as he's shit,but understand why he wont leave

Looks like its not the whole of the contract that the club are offering him, so to be honest I would do the same thing. If they offer him all the money that he would earn for the remainder of his contract then he probably would leave.

but what would be the point of that

Certainly  :king: worst piece of business I was   :jaw1: when I discovered he'd been given a 3 year deal.....presumably when you offer to pay up someone's contract, there has to be a balance between, how much the player loses and what the club gains. I'm guessing Whalley's loss is too much at the moment....I suppose he'll be left to rot, in the reserves as a way of persuading him to accept the deal.

you seemed to be defending his decision, i was wrong then.

no club would offer a player the full compensation, that's not the point of a mutual termination.

i'm guessing the club have offered him peanuts though, especially if diamandis brokered the deal!

anyway, i bet once he leaves he'll retire through injury and get a nice fat payoff from that as well.

I assume he still has to 'work' for the club - reserve games, training, appearances etc. even though we don't want him.

Can't he sell match day programmes or work in the pie stands? It's still being 'part of the team'...

The difference I see there is that Ruddock should be much wealthier an individual due to the level he played his career at, so he should have been able to cut the club a bit of slack.

The problem with Whalley is that he probably doesn't think he'll be able to get a contract anywhere else that will fill the gap between what the club are offering, and what he'll get if he stays.

Chalky White used to sell programmes when he was injured back in the early 90s! what a legend.

apparantly he has to travel to get here.life could be made difficult for him couldn't it?
all this has made me think.kingy was usually quite carefull with the  contracts given out.why was whalley given 3 years in the first place?
maybe just maybe the manager-agent bung thing could have been a factor?
could kingy have coined it in?

Come on Macca! Its a bit like the whole Bank charges thing. If they offer you £500 when they should pay you a £1000 you arent going to accept it are you?!?!?!

Disagree with both Will and Arriba if you genuinely enjoy playing football then you should want to go somewhere else and play, maybe a good time for him to start his coaching badges.  In the same position I would of accepted the offer purely because I wouldnt want to stay somewhere I wasnt wanted  :nono:

 My memory, was that everybody recognised we needed a mid field playmaker, AK had gone for several players....Paul Smith being one, the boy Tudur Jones another, perhaps Kinsella, we couldn't get any of them as other clubs were offering better terms.

  So it started to look a bit of a problem to get anyone in.....King had enquired about Whalley and he'd apparently been offered 2 years again on  better terms by Grimsby....he had a house in  Cardiff, which King hoped might sway his decision, so  I suppose the 3 year offer was to top Grimsby

Guys , he is a 'grandpa' (33 y.o) . Is he a notable player of Swindon ?
If not , I'd sell him as fast as possible to get some money and bring some fresh , young midfielder....

Dont be daft dave. If your job said, "ok WE know you have a contract with us for the next year but we want to let you go now, but we only want to pay you half of what you are entitled to" You would not accept it.


PS do some work for a change :mrgreen:

Exactly STA . He doesn't owe us anything.

he owes us a performance

He played quite well against Yeovil away last season if that helps?

This sort of thing should eb brought back, like how allen made teh players paint their training ground, make the club more in touch with fans, I think it shoudl be brought back

Not arguing that fact. Id quite happy to see the back of him. But Its unreasonable to expect him to take less than he is owed in terms of a payoff

I think the point of a pay off it is mutually acceptable, we pay him a chunk of his money over time, allowing him to pursue first team football elsewhere.  Obviously he can rot in the reserves here for full pay or take a payoff and try and find another club where he could make up the shortfall in wages and actually play some football.  I guess the key negotiaition is the structure of the pay off and how large a % of his salary it is.

To be entitled to it though dont you have to do your job to an acceptable standard?? anyone that can claim to understand his decision is crazy he has been mediocre for us and should of agreed the compensation out of ambarassment for the way he has performed for us.

Has he had a game where he played well yet? If so, my memory has forgotten it.

i think nearly every club has players surplus to requirements on contracts.
its just the way it is in football,we dont like it but its tough i'm afraid,right or wrong!
whalley may well feel hard done by and not given a fair chance by sturrock maybe?
or the money offered wasn't enough in his opinion? the fact his he has a contract that the club have to honour whether he plays, gets injured or whatever.thats the nature of it all.
he hasn't asked to leave, so if i were him i would have done exactly the same and turned it down.
he is looking after no1, loyalty ect means nothing to him and most other players.their careers are short so they coin in what they can

It may be a common thing in football but I refuse to say it myself he is a man clearly like alot of us have in the past and hes get stuck in a rut but rather than do something about it, he would rather sit in our reserves pick up his no doubt over inflated pay check whilst doing nothing.  Since he has been here he has been injured, underperformed and generally not contributed in anyway to this club if any of us did this in our jobs we would be booted and unemployed probably without a pay off, just because the attitude of the modern day footballer is arrogant & lazy doesnt mean we have to accept it  :?

From Whalley's point of view, i suppose it's all about how quickly (if at all) he can get a deal with another club. If he could get, say, half of what he's owed from this contract, then immediately sign for another club on much reduced wages, he'd probably take it.

I think he realises that nobody above a Cherry Red Records league side will sign him, so he'll be holding out for the maximum then retiring i imagine

but the principle is the same.sit on my ass and get paid for fuck all

No, he's never really played.

I'm sure we would. Problem is, nobody in the proffesional game would want him. He doesn't have anything going for him, aside from his passing.

You could tell he'd lost it when you barely noticed him agaisnt a Salisbury City reserve side.

Yeovil away last season.

His first game back after being injured (again  :roll: ) I think.

He was very, very good.

You cant blame the player he was to do whats best for himself and his family.No doubt the buy out offer was derisary anyway.