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Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: red macca on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 08:41:29
Has applied for the managers job.for the love of god sir seton speak to this man.he is a promising manager who very very highly thought of in holland i have not been overly keen by the names being mentioned but fuck me this one has me excited please get this bloke in


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 08:44:10
That's an interesting one. Where did you hear this?


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: magic8ball on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 08:48:13
And he still looks 'ard as nails with a delightful perm-a-tan.

http://www.stormvogelstelstar.nl/showmod.aspx?cat=25


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: red macca on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 08:51:04
my mate told me last night it would be in todays adver.sure enough its on the back page and he has confirmed that he has applied.

by the way he is a multi millionaire :wink:


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 08:53:31
Hasn't he got a good coaching pedigree in Holland, or did I dream that?  Of all the old boys to come back he'd be one of the few I'd think should do it.  Short spell with us, no great connection with the heart strings but potentially a great leader and if the coaching has been up to scratch in Holland he should retain the professional edge.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: fatbury on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 08:56:19
He had a connection with my heart strings .. one of our best in the Premier League .. Luc was a ledg!


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: red macca on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 08:59:26
Quote from: "RobertT"
Hasn't he got a good coaching pedigree in Holland, or did I dream that?  Of all the old boys to come back he'd be one of the few I'd think should do it.  Short spell with us, no great connection with the heart strings but potentially a great leader and if the coaching has been up to scratch in Holland he should retain the professional edge.
very high peigree rob.he has taken the smallest team in holland to 3rd in the league in division 2 and luis van gaal thought he was good enough to be his number 2 at alkmaar.

this is one applicant that the board seriously need to speak to


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 08:59:45
I know he is currently coach of Stormvogels Telstar in Holland (thankyou Google). Does anyone know what he's been doing since leaving Swindon?


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: magic8ball on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 09:03:43
I remember his deflected effort against Man Ure for the 2-2 draw.

Happy dayz.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Rich Pullen on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 09:05:43
I'd love it if Luc Nijholt managed us! And he's an experienced coach... What more do you need?


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: red macca on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 09:06:00
he was a player coach and academy coach for a club called fc volendam.

Then went to Az alkmaar where he went on to be under 16,17,20,23 coach.then luis van gaal promoted him to assistant manager in 04 got to the uefa cup final last year and had a very good season in the league.now at stormvogels where by all accounts he has turnt them into a ver y good little team


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Piemonte on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 09:08:41
:mrgreen:  This is a good read first thing in the morning.  Not only is Nijholt a legend, he has the neccessary coaching qualifications and experience. (take not people who wanted Oooh shaun Taylor , chalky white or bodin bodin bodin)


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Cookie on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 09:10:39
:D  Luke Nijholt has my vote.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: red macca on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 09:13:31
anyone who wants this bloke needs to make it known clearly to the board we need to sing his name saturday.this is a bold statement but i would safely say 90% of us fans would be happy with him in charge


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 09:15:42
Maybe he could buy us at the same time, or put some money towards purchasing the club - certainly attract other onvestors to the consortium.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: SwindonTartanArmy on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 09:18:41
Luc would be perfect. Town legend with a good coaching pedigree. Get him in now!


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 09:19:13
You never know how any manager is going to do, all you can do is look at their track record and hear what they have to say in the interview.

Obviously we wont be a party to the second part but based on his track record he is as good a candidate as anyone.

And I assume he is used to having bugger all money to spend.

And he wont cost the club a fortune in wages.

And he will know all about lots of good young Dutch players.

And he's rock hard.

Luc it is then!


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 09:24:07
I don't normally get overexcited and childish but:

Luc Luc Luc Nijholt!

To be honest there are risks involved. Like does he know enough players/contacts in the English league. Will those crazy dutch bastard training techniques be lost on our mob.

But gets my vote over Ady simple because he has a bit of experience and is an external applicant.

I think it's too soon for Adie. Get him coaching and build him up slowly. Don't throw him in the deep end.

Sturrock if we have got money, Nijohlt if we don't


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 09:26:01
I've got a feeling Sturrock will go to Hibs. They're making an announcement today.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: red macca on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 09:27:41
john collins will get the hibs job ost


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: SwindonTartanArmy on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 09:31:51
Yup, John Collins is a shoe in for the Hibs job.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 09:33:12
Dunfermline then. I just think Sturrock will go back to Jockland.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Panda Paws on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 09:38:29
Martyn welcomes communications from fans and can be contacted at [email protected]

(That's from his profile on the website)

Since he's, I guess, in charge now let's all storm him with email demanding they talk to Luc.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: juddie on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 10:09:14
LUC NIJHOLT'S BARMY ARMY!!!


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Rich Pullen on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 10:14:55
The thing is Luc Nijholt isn't a legend in my opinion. He played for us a for a couple of seasons (both relegations!) - earned himself a bit of a cult status and then left.

But he has coaching experience and his name is popular with the Swindon faithful - so let's at least talk to the the guy!

Martin Jol of the 4th Division!


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Fred Elliot on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 10:30:56
FOR THE FUCKING LOVE OF GOD GO OUT AND GET THIS MAN !!!!!!!

 :beers:


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: The_Plagiarist on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 10:38:42
I always liked Luc. I don't like to think about ex-players coming back as there is always the risk that it isn't going to work and the good memories will be wiped.

I saw the back of the Adver on the way in with his angry face looking back at me. Put the fear of god in me!

Maybe he could go for the whole club?? He has the cash!


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: le god cuervo on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 10:47:44
fucking get in!! this is the best thing I have read in ages. really put a smile on my face this morning  :D

really hope they consider him for the job. best name mentioned so far. fuck sturrock


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 10:48:24
this sounds very good indeed. im happy this morning. wouldn't bet against the board turning a blind eye to it and getting Mel Machin in instead though


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 10:49:55
He's my second choice after Sabin I think.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 10:53:20
fuck me or we could have Rockin Robin in charge  :| http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/display.var.994799.0.could_he_be_the_new_manager_of_town.php


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 11:00:23
Quote from: "Chris K"
Martyn welcomes communications from fans and can be contacted at [email protected]

(That's from his profile on the website)

Since he's, I guess, in charge now let's all storm him with email demanding they talk to Luc.


I've e-mailed him (too much time on my hands I know!) I suggest a few more do the same.

Well it can't do any harm can it?


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: juddie on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 11:08:30
I've just done the same, can't hurt.

Luc, Luc, Luc Nijholt!!!!!!!!!!

This would make me very happy.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Piemonte on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 11:09:54
I'm going to email him


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Panda Paws on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 12:06:28
Quote from: "OOH!  SHAUN TAYLOR"
Quote from: "Chris K"
Martyn welcomes communications from fans and can be contacted at [email protected]

(That's from his profile on the website)

Since he's, I guess, in charge now let's all storm him with email demanding they talk to Luc.


I've e-mailed him (too much time on my hands I know!) I suggest a few more do the same.

Well it can't do any harm can it?


No, not at all. I've been very polite to him and said congrats on getting on the board etc ... and made my feelings known about the managers job. He asked for feedback ... so no harm in sending it in at all.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: louavo on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 12:07:32
I've emailed them.

Get in, sounds like he could be just the ticket with his coaching/managerial experience/success of sorts


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: mattboyslim on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 12:19:20
He seems like a wise choice, for all the reasons quoted by everyone, not too big time, to bugger off at the first sign of a pay rise, but some serious experience and obviously something of a soft spot for Swindon.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: yeo on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 12:24:58
Nah dont want him.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: random_five on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 12:25:08
I can't believe how unanimous the support for Nijholt is, absolute quality... have checked all 3 forums and haven't found one negative posting.. Got to be number 1 choice..

Come on board, don't let us down this time....


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Leggett on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 12:27:13
good lord i'm moist. that would be fan-fucking-tastic.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Dazzza on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 12:28:14
Sounds a genuinely exciting prospect and a manager that’s experienced, actually in work and doing well and not been sacked.

Only concern is how our lads would take to him especially after the matey era of Wise.  Bring in a sidekick assistant like Duncan Shearer and the like and it may be the perfect blend.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: yeo on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 12:31:05
If that cock spanner comes im burning my season ticket.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: McLovin on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 12:37:04
There are a few posts on here suggesting he's a bit well off. How has he made his fortune?


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Piemonte on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 12:57:12
Quote from: "Dave Blackcurrant"
There are a few posts on here suggesting he's a bit well off. How has he made his fortune?


playing for Swindon for 2 years, obviously


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 12:59:56
Quote from: "Yeovil Red"
If that cock spanner comes im burning my season ticket.


Do you want to give the reasons why you don't want him?


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: janaage on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 13:01:46
I'm not over the moon at the thought of such an appointment, but am happier with Luc than other managers that have been mentioned.

It'd be a fairly pleasing appointment.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: SwindonTartanArmy on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 13:03:00
Quote from: "Batch"
Quote from: "Yeovil Red"
If that cock spanner comes im burning my season ticket.


Do you want to give the reasons why you don't want him?

Im hoping he was trying to piss on the point of the previous post


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: mattboyslim on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 13:06:55
Rockin'Robin mightn't be too far off reality, he does live in Newbury after all!


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: SwindonTartanArmy on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 13:12:43
Quote from: "janaage"
I'm not over the moon at the thought of such an appointment, but am happier with Luc than other managers that have been mentioned.

It'd be a fairly pleasing appointment.

in a bad mood after last night??

I would be well chuffed with Luc. Certainly brightened me up after the events of the last week or so.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Frigby Daser on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 13:14:33
I propose a 'change your pic to Luc' day on the Townend Forum

everybody in....the board HAS to act fast on this one - it would be the most popular appointment going NOT because he's a blast from the past, but because of his record and his winning mentality - he was a midfield destroyer, he was a winner (albeit in a failing team!) and he'll make us play football!!

Think of a comparison over here...someoe who's done a great job coaching at youth and assistant level at a top flight club under a world class (arguably) manager like van Gaal, then gone on to do wonders for a smaller club.

To be honest, can't think of one. Is it too good to be true?


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: SwindonTartanArmy on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 13:20:09
Quote from: "The Moonraker"
I propose a 'change your pic to Luc' day on the Townend Forum

everybody in....the board HAS to act fast on this one - it would be the most popular appointment going NOT because he's a blast from the past, but because of his record and his winning mentality - he was a midfield destroyer, he was a winner (albeit in a failing team!) and he'll make us play football!!


totally agree


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Johno on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 13:26:25
never thought he would apply....brilliant.  8)


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: yeo on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 13:32:58
Quote from: "Batch"
Quote from: "Yeovil Red"
If that cock spanner comes im burning my season ticket.


Do you want to give the reasons why you don't want him?


rubbish player
un proven manager
foreign
knows nothing about lower league English football
speaks funny
its my duty to dislike the managers that everyone else creams over


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: spacey on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 13:36:43
Quote from: "Yeovil Red"
Quote from: "Batch"
Quote from: "Yeovil Red"
If that cock spanner comes im burning my season ticket.


Do you want to give the reasons why you don't want him?


rubbish player
un proven manager
foreign
knows nothing about lower league English football
speaks funny
its my duty to dislike the managers that everyone else creams over


plus you don't own a season ticket......I suppose you could burn Mexico red's when he wasn't looking.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: yeo on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 13:39:41
ive still got yours from last year I was going to burn that. :advercool:


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Frigby Daser on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 13:42:31
Change the avatars lads...even you Yeovil. You know you'll come round to it - his playing ability has nothing to do with it - what is does mean is that he's looked at the club because of his link to us whilst he might not have done if he hadn't played for us.

He's hard - he'll know theres certain things you have to do to get out of this league...i.e. stick the boot in when you need to

He can actually coach - THAT is proven - far more so than Adie. Yes, others may have experience, such as Sturrock (who'd i'd still be over the moon with) but the other applicants that you could probably guess at...Claridge, Rix et al, have only experience of failure.

Luc Nijholt does have a point to prove - he has ten years coaching experience yet has the hunger of a manager who's first appointment it is because he's unknown in England.

He'll know how to play football - van Gaal would have rubbed off - and to think that van Gaal rated him enough to appoint him screams out how good he must be.

Yes, his lack of knowledge of the lower leagues is a disadvantage, but I bet he'll learn fast. It didn't stop us appointing Ardiles did it.

Strongest candidate that we know has applied

..change the avatar


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: yeo on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 13:43:20
Nope im holding out for Kingy.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Piemonte on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 13:44:43
On a practical note I'm not chaning my avatar because

A. I quite like mine
B. it will get confusing

However, I fully support the campaign to get Luc appointed.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: spacey on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 13:44:45
Quote from: "Yeovil Red"
ive still got yours from last year I was going to burn that. :advercool:


Maybe you should write to the Adver....

I'm so angry and frustrated with recent events at The County Ground that I'm going to burn someone else's season ticket from last year!!


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 13:46:42
Fuck off with the changing the avatar thing. This forum is fucking confusing enough without every member having the most identifiable part of their posts removed.

And what the fuck do you think it will achieve? You think they'll call an emergency board meeting becauase the members of thetownend.com all changed their avatars? No they won't. The whole thing will just annoy me.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Frigby Daser on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 13:49:46
fair point, obviously got the painters in


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 13:51:33
Quote from: "flammableBen"
Fuck off with the changing the avatar thing. This forum is fucking confusing enough without every member having the most identifiable part of their posts removed.

And what the fuck do you think it will achieve? You think they'll call an emergency board meeting becauase the members of thetownend.com all changed their avatars? No they won't. The whole thing will just annoy me.


 I advocate everyone changing their user name to Luc Nijholt......then we'll be like the italian anarchists Luther Blissett.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: mr ian on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 13:51:51
i'll jump on any band


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: land_of_bo on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 13:52:54
Wagon jumped on.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 13:55:00
Quote from: "The Moonraker"
fair point, obviously got the painters in


I did throw a bit of a strop. I stand by my point though. Why not do something useful instead like write to the club. Think that Martin Smyandsesd or what ever he's called email address is in another thread somewhere.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Sussex on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 13:59:08
I've emailed him some midget porn. He must be bored to death of reading about Luc Nijholt today.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Amir on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 14:00:47
He's certainly the most interesting name that's been mentioned, and I can't help being caught up in everyone's enthusiasm.  Get him in!

I wonder if he encourages his players to charge after someone they think has fouled them, and then scythe them down in retribution.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Frigby Daser on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 14:07:34
Quote from: "flammableBen"
Quote from: "The Moonraker"
fair point, obviously got the painters in


I did throw a bit of a strop. I stand by my point though. Why not do something useful instead like write to the club. Think that Martin Smyandsesd or what ever he's called email address is in another thread somewhere.


I just did mate! Jesus he must be regretting stating he'll welcome fans thoughts - in amongst the hundreds of mails supporting Nijholt there's probably one from Richard Branson offering us £30m and Guinluigi Buffon offering to help solve our keeper shortage


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: SwindonTartanArmy on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 14:21:25
Quote from: "flammableBen"
The whole thing will just annoy me.

Even more reason to do it! :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Piemonte on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 14:26:12
Quote from: "Amir"

I wonder if he encourages his players to charge after someone they think has fouled them, and then scythe them down in retribution.


I very much hope so Amir. It should be openly encouraged.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Rich Pullen on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 14:28:45
Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"
I advocate everyone changing their user name to Luc Nijholt......then we'll be like the italian anarchists Luther Blissett.


Yeah right, how odd is all that! Those craaaazy Italians.

If you go with your advice Reg there's every possibility that in 5 or 10 years time we won't be known as "The Robins" but as the "Luc Nijholt's" instead.

Ace.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 14:53:32
Quote from: "Piemonte"
Quote from: "Amir"

I wonder if he encourages his players to charge after someone they think has fouled them, and then scythe them down in retribution.


I very much hope so Amir. It should be openly encouraged.


I just remembered - He had a scrap once on the field with Terry Fenwick did he not? Tranmere away I believe, must have been 1994. Top notch.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: juddie on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 14:54:24
luc, luc luc nijholt


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Northern Red on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 15:09:05
Excellent - one of my favourite players.

I'd back him - I'm excepting that the next manager is likely to be shit anyway.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 15:44:18
Quote from: "OOH!  SHAUN TAYLOR"
Quote from: "Piemonte"
Quote from: "Amir"

I wonder if he encourages his players to charge after someone they think has fouled them, and then scythe them down in retribution.


I very much hope so Amir. It should be openly encouraged.


I just remembered - He had a scrap once on the field with Terry Fenwick did he not? Tranmere away I believe, must have been 1994. Top notch.


 This is a good point.....should be near the top of his CV for reasons for getting the job...sadly though the naff  goal celebration with Keith Scott, just about rules Luc out.

 Barry Hunter's Barmy Army


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Northern Red on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 16:09:21
Quote from: "Luc Nijholt"
"I have some great memories of Swindon Town. The fans were always brilliant, the ground was always sold out and I would love to return as manager."

He's in for a surprise then.....


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 16:28:45
Looking at an AZ  fans website.....for those not knowing a great deal about Eredivisie, AZ are a small club who manage to challenge the big boys of Ajax, Feyenoord and PSV, it seems in the summer they weren't too pleqsed with Van Gaal and using babelfish, looks like this fan wanted Nijholt in as next manager

 Van Gaal kicks... All ' nice and nice ', but a someone has already found feasable and better substitute? For me there are but three normal options: Jol Ten Cate rijkaard But yes, that seems me all not feasable. If someone ventures it soon with Foeke Booy on to shove to come, then I plead enthusiastically for the arrival of Luc Nijholt. P. Also Henk van Stee become then an option

 Wonder who Foeke Boy is?

  Nijholt worked at AZ as  coach and assistant, which is a serious club....the Board should at least talk to him.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Piemonte on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 16:29:11
Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"
Quote from: "OOH!  SHAUN TAYLOR"
Quote from: "Piemonte"
Quote from: "Amir"

I wonder if he encourages his players to charge after someone they think has fouled them, and then scythe them down in retribution.


I very much hope so Amir. It should be openly encouraged.


I just remembered - He had a scrap once on the field with Terry Fenwick did he not? Tranmere away I believe, must have been 1994. Top notch.


 This is a good point.....should be near the top of his CV for reasons for getting the job...sadly though the naff  goal celebration with Keith Scott, just about rules Luc out.

 Barry Hunter's Barmy Army


I always though Terry Fenwick was a cunt, even before he played for us.

Kudos to him for ruining Paul Warhursts career in front of the TE though with a blatant professional foul that somehow avoided even a booking if my memory serves me correctly


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 16:36:40
The thought occured to me when Warhurst pitched up with Barnet this season whether his mind went back to that.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 16:41:50
Its also interesting looking at Telstar's home page, just how many backroom staff they have, despite onluy having a 3000 capacity ground which I doubt often gets filled.

 I suppose you'd expect it in Dutch football, but not sure Luc could work in an environment like ours.

Great name Telstar....I wonder if they run out to Telstar by the Tornadoes, which would be   8)


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Frigby Daser on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 16:44:58
Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"
Looking at an AZ  fans website.....for those not knowing a great deal about Eredivisie, AZ are a small club who manage to challenge the big boys of Ajax, Feyenoord and PSV, it seems in the summer they weren't too pleqsed with Van Gaal and using babelfish, looks like this fan wanted Nijholt in as next manager

 Van Gaal kicks... All ' nice and nice ', but a someone has already found feasable and better substitute? For me there are but three normal options: Jol Ten Cate rijkaard But yes, that seems me all not feasable. If someone ventures it soon with Foeke Booy on to shove to come, then I plead enthusiastically for the arrival of Luc Nijholt. P. Also Henk van Stee become then an option

 Wonder who Foeke Boy is?

  Nijholt worked at AZ as  coach and assistant, which is a serious club....the Board should at least talk to him.


With the best will in the world, I'm not sure how many times Adie has been mentioned in the same sentence as Rijkaard. Appointing Nijholt would also mean a certain place i the team for Ashan 'Gullit' Holgate.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 16:57:54
The main argument against Luc, would be lack of contacts in the English game, but how many would Adie have?


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 17:01:01
Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"
The main argument against Luc, would be lack of contacts in the English game, but how many would Adie have?


Yes, but I dare say he's loads of contacts in the Dutch game which, to be honest, is as good if not better!


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 17:05:46
Quote from: "OOH!  SHAUN TAYLOR"
Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"
The main argument against Luc, would be lack of contacts in the English game, but how many would Adie have?


Yes, but I dare say he's loads of contacts in the Dutch game which, to be honest, is as good if not better!


  That, of course could be an upside, but the Board would have to be very brave to go down this route of possibly transforming the club. You and I both know it ent going to happen, unless there are changes at the top.....maybe Nijholt might be interested in talking to the fans consortium.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 17:06:29
Quote from: "OOH!  SHAUN TAYLOR"
Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"
The main argument against Luc, would be lack of contacts in the English game, but how many would Adie have?


Yes, but I dare say he's loads of contacts in the Dutch game which, to be honest, is as good if not better!


Dutch players would also be willing to come and play here like a shot. Better pay at Swindon than many in the top divison of Holland as well as the chance to make a name for themselves in Engerland.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: mr ian on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 17:08:03
transform the club

i dont mind


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Frigby Daser on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 17:17:34
Do contacts matter so much when his budget for new players is unlikely to enable him to splash the cash? See what you mean, but so long as he's got a chief scout (Tuttle for instance)  or a member of the staff who knows the leagues he'll pick it up fairly quickly.

Not much in English about his managerial career - would be interesting to see what sort of football he plays etc, but I did find this:

AZ have dropped to third after picking up only a point from their last three games and have also changed their normal preparations with Jong AZ coach Luc Nijholt taking the final training session instead of Co Adriaanse.

Nijholt had his final exam for the course which allows him to become a head coach and needed to lead the first team's training.

``It's not the most ideal moment for this but we had no other possibility,'' said Adriaanse. ``Luc has analysed Utrecht for me and his training was a real good one.''

The examiners agreed and told Nijholt he had passed before lunch, and he will now see how the players respond to his session against Utrecht.

``It went well, a bit too good even,'' he said. ``For me the moment to do this doesn't matter, but I am extremely thankful to Co Adriaanse that he allowed me to do the training.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 17:21:47
Co Adriaanse is a  top Dutch coach, the bit of evidence we're getting here makes it seem like Luc  could become a top coach as well.....think it was Rich Pullen who said a sort of STFC Martin Jol.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Rich Pullen on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 17:24:33
If he ever joined us (which I doubt because it's far too popular a choice!) I hope he brings the likes of Richmond Bossman, Willy Overtoom & Touvarno Pinas with him, for their names alone!

 :D


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: ron dodgers on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 17:29:08
I want Foeke Booy and I want him now! (is it legal?)


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Rich Pullen on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 17:30:02
Quote from: "ron dodgers"
I want Foeke Booy and I want him now! (is it legal?)


Simple answer? No.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 17:42:03
whilst I love the idea of Luc in charge can we afford it, will we take the gamle

do the board have a set of testicles between them?


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Spencer_White on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 17:45:10
Will the board bother to speak to him?

If he has applied for the job then that says to me that we could afford him.

Most importantly this would give the club a new figurehead and a new momentum.

All in all it sounds far too good to come true with Dunwoody about. But Ive e-mailed Martin Staymes anyway.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Miles Mayhem on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 18:08:06
i get back from work and this news hits me. GET IN! Back of the net. Does any one remember Luc doing his own warm up, it always used to make me laugh as a kid.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Andy King on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 18:39:47
Quote from: "Yeovil Red"
Nope im holding out for Kingy.


I have applied Yeovil Red and I do still plan to make you my assistant. I'm hoping the Mrs has stocked up on the cigars for the busy Christmas schedule. Luckily she only likes to smoke something else of mine.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Danjackson10 on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 18:55:44
right i have heard about this for a few days now! My dads boss knows Mr Nijholt and was the one who gave him a ring and suggested that he applied! Luc has recently built a house not far from Swindon so a move to the area would be ideal! I can confirm this chap is minted although i am unsure how he has acquired his fortune! He is desperate for the job and I think he has the right ingredients to do it. The board would be crazy not to accept his offer!


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: STFC Village on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 18:57:25
Quote from: "Danjackson10"
Luc has recently built a house not far from Swindon
What a fucking legend, he has my vote


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: red macca on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 19:00:42
Quote from: "DV85"
whilst I love the idea of Luc in charge can we afford it, will we take the gamle

do the board have a set of testicles between them?
dont need to worry about can we afford him dv the man is a self made millionaire and isnt worried about pay


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Spencer_White on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 19:00:57
Quote from: "Danjackson10"
The board would be crazy not to accept his offer!


Well theyve already managed to fuck off a bloke worth about 10 million quid. So I doubt they are that bothered about fucking off Nijholt.

Prove me wrong board.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Chubbs on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 19:01:48
Quote from: "DV85"
whilst I love the idea of Luc in charge can we afford it, will we take the gamle

do the board have a set of testicles between them?


going by the team he manages now, a 2nd div team i dont think he would cost that much, no where near what cunty mccunterson was on.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 19:19:51
Quote from: "DV85"


do the board have a set of testicles between them?


 I believe Sandy Gray provides the nads in the panelled room


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Whits on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 19:39:26
Quote from: "Rich"
fuck me or we could have Rockin Robin in charge  :| http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/display.var.994799.0.could_he_be_the_new_manager_of_town.php


Tom Hartley, i used to go to school with him, well he was a couple of years below me  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 19:44:11
Quote from: "Whits"
Quote from: "Rich"
fuck me or we could have Rockin Robin in charge  :| http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/display.var.994799.0.could_he_be_the_new_manager_of_town.php


Tom Hartley, i used to go to school with him, well he was a couple of years below me  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Quote

"It's all just a bit of fun," said Tom, who lives in Newbury.


  :shock: :run:


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: sonic youth on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 20:48:22
this would be the greatest possible appointment imaginable.

i emailed martyn earlier as well.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: yeo on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 21:58:56
I dont get the excitment I really dont.Im not trying to be difficult and im sure we could probably do alot worse but hes the manager of a second division Dutch club whcich is the equivalent of our non league isnt it and he played for us briefly.So why exactly is everyone creaming themselves im willing to be convinced?


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: sonic youth on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 22:02:02
he's got excellent coaching pedigree, highly rated in holland, the dutch second tier of football is probably better than league 2 as well.

i liked him as a player too.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: SwindonTownFC on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 22:05:05
Quote from: "Yeovil Red"
I dont get the excitment I really dont.Im not trying to be difficult and im sure we could probably do alot worse but hes the manager of a second division Dutch club whcich is the equivalent of our non league isnt it and he played for us briefly.So why exactly is everyone creaming themselves im willing to be convinced?


he was assistant to Louis Van Gaal at AZ Alkmaar when they got to the final or the semi final whatever it was of the UEFA Cup and he now manages the smallest team in the dutch league and he has got them third


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: yeo on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 22:09:40
Hmm  maybe its because I lost interest in the Premiership year that I have no paticular fondness for him.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: yeo on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 22:28:13
Is the dutch second division like our 2nd division?

ie
prem- champ - 1- 2

or do they have 2 or 3  leagues?

what are Stormvogels Telstars attendences?

ive tried looking but cant find owt


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: sonic youth on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 22:34:30
eredivisie (prem) then eerstedivisie (championship)

telstar are in the eerstedivisie, second tier of dutch football.

the capacity of their ground is 3,250, looking at the match report for their last game (here (http://www.sctelstar.nl/wedstrijdverslagen.aspx?wid=164&stat=1)) they got a crowd of 1,503.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Spencer_White on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 22:38:21
Quote from: "Yeovil Red"
Hmm  maybe its because I lost interest in the Premiership year that I have no paticular fondness for him.


You were a miserable bastard when we got Dennis Wise though.   :wink:


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 22:40:09
Quote from: "sonic youth"
eredivisie (prem) then eerstedivisie (championship)

telstar are in the eerstedivisie, second tier of dutch football.

the capacity of their ground is 3,250, looking at the match report for their last game (here (http://www.sctelstar.nl/wedstrijdverslagen.aspx?wid=164&stat=1)) they got a crowd of 1,503.


Although as mentioned they are a small club the actual comparative level of football would be the conference.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 22:40:39
Telstar are in a bit of a slump....

   http://www.soccerway.com/teams/netherlands/stormvogels-telstar-combinatie/


 The Jupiler League.....has a number of sides who yo yo betwen it and Eredivisie.....but the structure of Dutch football because its a small country means it would be impossible to find a double European Champion like Forest in the third tier.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: yeo on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 23:07:09
Quote from: "Spencer_White"
Quote from: "Yeovil Red"
Hmm  maybe its because I lost interest in the Premiership year that I have no paticular fondness for him.


You were a miserable bastard when we got Dennis Wise though.   :wink:


aye and how right I was :D ..

Im not as equally miserable about this, more sitting on the fence.I think people on these boards get carried away when frankly they dont really know what they are talking about.I completely admit I have no clue of his managerial record..like I say im willing to be convinced but aint going crack one off.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: yeo on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 23:11:04
er sorry to be thick but is the Juliper league the eerstedivisie?


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 23:13:40
Yes it is Yeovil. It's the sponsor name for it


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Wednesday, November 1, 2006, 02:08:26
Quote from: "Yeovil Red"
er sorry to be thick but is the Juliper league the eerstedivisie?


Juliper is a bloody lovely beer too !

NMH


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: kaufman on Wednesday, November 1, 2006, 09:20:26
Surely it sturrock would be the better choice? if nijolt had never played for us would we be getting so excited?
says in the express today that sturrock is leadeing the race for the job and he would be my choice over nijholt any day.
Sure the nostalgia would be good for the first week or so but i just think he would be a bit lost.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, November 1, 2006, 09:32:32
I'm not sure if someone posted this, but in my trawl yesterday I discovered he coached AZ's Under 16, Under 18 and Under23's all to Championships before getting the Assistant role to Van Gaal.

If nothing else he'll be able to get the players to pass to each other.  Maybe we can go for Total Football with a fluid 3-4-3 formation.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Rich Pullen on Wednesday, November 1, 2006, 09:40:19
Quote from: "RobertT"
If nothing else he'll be able to get the players to pass to each other.  Maybe we can go for Total Football with a fluid 3-4-3 formation.


Chance would be a fine thing!


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: mastapeaka on Wednesday, November 1, 2006, 10:04:14
Robert T - on what basis do you feel Luc Nijholt would have the funds to buy Swindon Town and be a serious investor?!


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, November 1, 2006, 10:11:31
If he has them, I'm just going on what other people have mentioned, I have no idea myself whether he has enough to buy, invest or just send his CV by air mail.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Arriba on Wednesday, November 1, 2006, 11:09:27
fucking hell,so an x town player with coaching badges wants the job and everyone wants him.why?

bodin,white,taylor ect will have the badges too.but have been disregarded by many.
i'm neither for or against any of them and they should be interviewed but whats the fuss about nijholt?


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: juddie on Wednesday, November 1, 2006, 11:10:49
read the earlier posts arriba, at least Nijholt has managed at a decent level and has learned from the likes of van gaal. White has only managed at non-league level, bodin and taylor have done nothing in management to suggest they know what to do in the cut and thrust of league two.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Arriba on Wednesday, November 1, 2006, 11:13:53
Quote from: "juddie"
read the earlier posts arriba, at least Nijholt has managed at a decent level and has learned from the likes of van gaal. White has only managed at non-league level, bodin and taylor have done nothing in management to suggest they know what to do in the cut and thrust of league two.



i have read the other posts.


i agree but think the other candidates deserve a listen too.
i honestly dont care who takes over aslong as we go up and progress


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: SwindonTartanArmy on Wednesday, November 1, 2006, 11:35:31
Quote from: "kaufman"
Surely it sturrock would be the better choice? if nijolt had never played for us would we be getting so excited?
says in the express today that sturrock is leadeing the race for the job and he would be my choice over nijholt any day.
Sure the nostalgia would be good for the first week or so but i just think he would be a bit lost.
Got to say that IMO Nijholt has got a better coaching pedigree than Sturrock, and I would love Sturrock here, but I think I would do a little sex wee in my pants if we did get Nijholt back.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, November 1, 2006, 11:56:17
Quote from: "arriba"
fucking hell,so an x town player with coaching badges wants the job and everyone wants him.why?

bodin,white,taylor ect will have the badges too.but have been disregarded by many.
i'm neither for or against any of them and they should be interviewed but whats the fuss about nijholt?


Because the players you list have poor coaching pedigrees so far.  Nijholt has impressed as a coach, assistant and Manager so far.  Some of those players would also have far too much pressure to succeed vs their previous reputations - it has tainted Quinn for example when we should always remember his goals.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: SwindonTartanArmy on Wednesday, November 1, 2006, 13:16:37
Tell you one thing, The AZ under 20 team is quality. We (Ajax Cape Town) played against them last summer and they were very handy.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Arriba on Wednesday, November 1, 2006, 14:19:34
Quote from: "RobertT"
Quote from: "arriba"
fucking hell,so an x town player with coaching badges wants the job and everyone wants him.why?

bodin,white,taylor ect will have the badges too.but have been disregarded by many.
i'm neither for or against any of them and they should be interviewed but whats the fuss about nijholt?


Because the players you list have poor coaching pedigrees so far.  Nijholt has impressed as a coach, assistant and Manager so far.  Some of those players would also have far too much pressure to succeed vs their previous reputations - it has tainted Quinn for example when we should always remember his goals.


bodin doesn't.and has been here for years.
nijholt has been abroad too,some could argue his knowledge of lower league english footy isn't good enough


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: juddie on Wednesday, November 1, 2006, 14:26:18
You could, but whoever we take on is going to be a gamble in some respect. If it's nijholt it's his lower league contacts and knowledge, if it's sturrock it's whether he'll stay long term. If it's a former player the gamble id their lack of experience...

Reckon Hoddle would drop down?


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Arriba on Wednesday, November 1, 2006, 14:34:32
Quote from: "juddie"
You could, but whoever we take on is going to be a gamble in some respect. If it's nijholt it's his lower league contacts and knowledge, if it's sturrock it's whether he'll stay long term. If it's a former player the gamble id their lack of experience...

Reckon Hoddle would drop down?


agree.its completely a gamble whoever comes in, it always is.
and no hoddle wouldn't drop down


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: sonic youth on Wednesday, November 1, 2006, 14:55:29
Quote from: "arriba"
i agree but think the other candidates deserve a listen too.


but none of the other suggestions - bodin, white, taylor - have the same calibre of coaching experience. nijholt is a man who has worked under louis van gaal and has coached every age group at AZ and been assistant manager as well. he's also got managerial experience in his own right.

bodin - youth coaching only (i'm assuming you know him personally?)
white - non-league management, no idea about badges etc.
taylor - assistant and coaching experience, last job was a disaster.

i'd like to see bodin be more involved with the senior side though, he's clearly done a great job with the kids - but i'm not sure he's the right man for the job at this moment in time.


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: red macca on Wednesday, November 1, 2006, 15:10:02
arriba am i right in thinking you want macari to take the job..

anyway what if fjortoft was to apply for the job what would peoples opinions be then out of interest


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: SwindonTownFC on Wednesday, November 1, 2006, 15:12:21
i want Nijholt, not because hes a ex player but purely because of his record speaks for its self


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: mr ian on Wednesday, November 1, 2006, 15:14:22
i just got chance to read his(luc) statement and i cant help but feel he might be in for a big shock


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: SwindonTownFC on Wednesday, November 1, 2006, 15:17:24
Quote from: "mr ian"
i just got chance to read his(luc) statement and i cant help but feel he might be in for a big shock


i thought that when reading bout him saying the ground was always sold out and so on, but then he went on to say he cudnt believe we was in League Two and that hes the man to take us back to where we should be


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: mr ian on Wednesday, November 1, 2006, 15:19:06
does he know the league format has changed :)  :)


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: SwindonTownFC on Wednesday, November 1, 2006, 15:19:47
Quote from: "mr ian"
does he know the league format has changed :)  :)


he said league two not division two so fingers crossed  :D


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: red macca on Wednesday, November 1, 2006, 15:20:12
im sure steve slattery would of told him what state the club is in


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Arriba on Wednesday, November 1, 2006, 16:48:16
Quote from: "red macca"
arriba am i right in thinking you want macari to take the job..

anyway what if fjortoft was to apply for the job what would peoples opinions be then out of interest



you are right about macari.he is my preference at the moment

i would prefer nijholt to fjiortoft.but i think everyone would be going silly like they are about nijholt if he wanted the job


Title: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Spencer_White on Wednesday, November 1, 2006, 17:44:16
Quote from: "Yeovil Red"
Quote from: "Spencer_White"
Quote from: "Yeovil Red"
Hmm  maybe its because I lost interest in the Premiership year that I have no paticular fondness for him.


You were a miserable bastard when we got Dennis Wise though.   :wink:


aye and how right I was :D ..

Im not as equally miserable about this, more sitting on the fence.I think people on these boards get carried away when frankly they dont really know what they are talking about.I completely admit I have no clue of his managerial record..like I say im willing to be convinced but aint going crack one off.


Il honestly be happy if we appoint any man who has a managng pedigree. Players comming down from the top flight to be player managers do work. But current players being promoted to manager is just a disaster waiting to happen. Williams isnt just a cheap option, hes the super cheap option. The cost cutting option verging on the rediculous.

We need one bloke to come in and be the boss. No questions asked, no doubts. Just like Wise was. Hard and fair. Everybody trains, everybody works hard. I think Nijholt could do that.


Title: Re: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: ibelieveinmrreeves on Saturday, June 20, 2009, 11:17:43
Sorry bout the old thread ressurection, but I saw on the BBC gossip page Luc's in the running for the Motherwell job - alongside Lawrie Sanchez, Steve Staunton and Gary Macallister. If Luc has any advantage, its that he hasn't yet proved himself to be a shit manager, unlike the rest.

Also, off-topic, but I noticed Peter Grant declaring the Premiership, laughably, 'scared' to let the Old Firm in, for fear of replacing two of the big four. Good one Pete.


Title: Re: Luc luc luc Nijholt
Post by: Rich Pullen on Saturday, June 20, 2009, 17:58:00
Lets let in the Glasgow clubs, fuck it lets bring in Eredivisie and Allsvenskan clubs too for good measure.

Luc Nijholt is more popular in North Lanarkshire than in Wiltshire so that might give him some help (but so does McAllister).