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Ok, sorry for starting a new thread...

Reading some of the things people are writing about possible replacements for Wise has got me very, very worried indeed.

Seems the only people writing into the Adver are people who believe football is the same game it was 20 years ago - well it isn't I'm affriad.

If the board take the advise from these people, and some on here then we'l either have Macari back in charge or someone like Chalkie.  Now I understand why people would jump to the conclusion that maybe appointments like this are a good idea, but they're down right ridiculous if you ask me.  

We'd be screwed if we went this route, but the board would belive they've done what the fans want - unfortunately they couldn't be more wrong.

Furthermore, what if we do actually manage to get a fans consortium together - god we'd be dead and burried before you could say 'Lou Macari's barmy army' if the average fan had their say - some of you are living in the past, it's time to put the 80's and 90's behind us and look toward progressing in the 21st century.

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Well said Tom

Totally agree.

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Good post KT.

I also think appointing Macari/White/King/Onoura would be a complete disaster and a huge step backwards, Wise has given this club a huge fucking kick up the arse and we need an equally intelligent manager to carry this on. Unfortunately not many fans can see this though and want to stick with what they know - familiar names.

IMO we need someone with proven experience at this level, like Sturrock, or someone with a bit of ambition to take the club forwards.

For the current board to see this would need a huge amount of fan power, sadly too many are extremely short sighted and set in their cold and dreary ways and would happilly see us wallow in this division under a mediocre manager.

Sorry Fred, just promise me one thing - never take Fatbury's advice...

No worries

he's been stalking me for the last 3 weeks.

Ive even brought Thumper inside

The worry should also include Adie Williams.

If he's unnsuccessful, what are the chances of the new manager wanting the previous incumbent around? We could lose a valuable player.

Just to cheer everyone up..............................

Big Lou 12 months ago would have been great but my biggest concern would be with trying to carry on the momentum and keep as much continuity as possible.  He's been out of the game for far to long and his approach to player management is in stark contrast to Wise and Poyet’s.

No harm in tossing the likes of Hoddle and Fjortoft about as it’s as likely as Mourinho.  

Not fond of Sturrock either to be honest but his record is complementary at this level.  He just gives me the impression of a manger that is on the wane and may not have the influence and charisma to take things forward.

I’d genuinely like to see Williams get the job long term but the concern there is that he may not have the grunt and experience to manage those behind the scenes.  I’m genuinely stumped for other names.

 Realistically there can be no progress until the present regime are ousted, so in that sense it makes little difference who is appointed....sooner or later they will be screwed, look what happened to King.

Nail my flag to the mast on this one Reg

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Sven Goran Eriksson is out of a job still isn't he?

What about David Beckham as a player/manager now his careers down the shit pan

I would like to see STFC_Bart take over in all honesty.

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There was a decent piece about French club Lyon on the Beeb a couple of weeks back that's worth a read.

Emphasises the importance of consistency behind the scenes being one of the key components to long term success or a football club.

Depressing stuff when put into context  

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/6046336.stm

ouch

If we get Lou Macari back I'll become a Reading fan

 :nono:  :shake:  :nono:  :shake:  Si Pi

It's never going to fucking happen though is it!  :roll:

p.s. if it still does then I'm buying a Reading season ticket

can I get a lift ?

No

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Spot on.

Best post I've read for ages - good work

Very well said KT. Just because these guys were good 20 years ago it doesn't mean they know the ins and outs of League 2 management.

I would much rather see somebody who has been on the scene recently such as Sturrock (no matter how much I dislike him as a person). He has proven himself at this level and this team is more than capable of automatic promotion. What we have to avoid is somebody who could bring in old/foreign/fancy ideas that would upset the regime

but thats only your opinion,not necesarily true is it.
please tell me the major diffrences in football sice 20 years ago?

ok so the prem has changed with the major influx of foreigners and the money and power players now hold but to me,lower league footy has changed very little with the standard of player and actual quality of football being played very similar to that of 20 years ago
fitness and power seem to be the ingredients needed to get success at lower league levels.wise's and macari's teams aint that different imo.we have been grinding out games this season just like macaris team did.the football quality hasn't been of high standard at all, infact its been pretty poor and the fact we have been winning glosses over the fact that the footy in general is pretty darn cack!
fact is we dont know who or what will work here,but people can adapt to the situations they find themselves in.look at gradi at crewe,been in the job for donkeys but they play attractive passing football.
of all the names in the adver macari wins hands down for me

KT is spot on. To quote one idiot from today's adver



A man with a bit of sense you'd think. Well you'd be wrong.



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They say never go back, with good reason.  Much as I'd love to see a boyhood hero, ie the '93 team, in all honesty only Calderwood and Ling (hoddle too) have been decent managers, both currently higher up the ladder than us.  Someone like Jan the Man would be a huge coup, but for me at the moment a stabilising decision like Sturrock, penney etc makes sense.  Williams would hopefully carry on where wise left off, but maybe lacks the experience if things go awry.  I maintain my firm belief that you can't trust the general public, I think the man in the adver reaffims my belief.

Isn't Penny going to Darlo.  He's a northern lad, he'd probably take the local option, plus he'll get more at Darlo.

probably is tbh and Sturrock might opt for his native Scotland too. which only leaves us with Brian Little (whats everyones opinions on him? do you think he could do a good job?) and heaven forbid Gary Megson  :shake:  :wall:

we are more local to penny than people probably realise his family are all still nicely settled in oxford

Wouldn't mind Penny seeing as he took Donny to back-to-back promotions.

Looking at the http://www.leaguemanagers.com/# I've found a few others that might be worth considering:

Neale Cooper (took Harlepool to promotion and into the playoffs)

Mark McGee (League Two title with Reading, League Two title with Millwall and playoffs the year after, 2 promotions with Brighton)

Nigel Worthington (took Norwich into the Premiership)

A few others but I'd doubt they'd be interested (Alex McLeish, O'Leary, Joe Royle etc)

Oooh, i liked Neale Cooper.

 The likes of Cooper can only be acquired, when the decision makers have some idea about football......unfortunately ours fell out the sky in a plane.

  I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Scott Leitch yet......

Do you think the plane crash could have been at all planned? :o  :wink:

reg, who do you want as manager?

It was Al-Qaeda - Oxford Branch.

yes, tell us Reg

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Go on Reg, you know you want to

 :soapy tit wank: Millom

Here's what I've previously said and I stand by it.....

     Realistically there can be no progress until the present regime are ousted, so in that sense it makes little difference who is appointed....sooner or later they will be screwed, look what happened to King.

Thats a cop-out if ever I've seen one Reg.

Theres plenty of evidence out there that talented managers can take clubs with few resources up though the leagues. At least to the championship anyway.

    We already know that  the pre Power board are unhappy about paying promotion bonuses....in the same way they were unhappy about paying for Wise Poyet and Ince.....who co-incidentally have now gone.

  Further Lee Peacock states quite openly that Wise will be back for players in January.....will the Board resist this....sadly no, it will be last season again when our best hope of staying up....Fallon...was sold.

You have to admit Reg, when placed in the position of a player wanting to leave , with the club having no money and coupled with the fact they can leave for free a few months later,  it's hard to resist any good cash offer.

I guess this is the futility of it all that you mentioned earlier.