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Ady WIlliams is the caretaker manager after Tuttle said he didn't want to do it. Williams will be in charge of the team on Saturday

According to Points West...

To be honest Tuttle will be off aswell soon.

:-))(

Good News potentially, the best internal appointment we could make, obviously a bigger name, higher profile chunk of experience would make me happy but I like Williams and his role in improving the defence this season has been huge.

Id rather have Adie Williams than Tuttle. Would probably be ok if he did get the job permanently as he has all the right attributes.

no no no  STA

Obviously not my ideal candidate, but better than Tuttle or bringing back Iffy or (gasp) King!

Williams isn't a long term answer. He is too untried and untested and also has been one of the lads. If we go for a player manager it has to come from outside the club IMHO.

R4E was your original post a joke or has Williams really been put in charge?

totally spot on appointment, hes the first person I said when I knew wise was off!

He talks very well and seems to know the score.  Will be behind him totally

its true!

God love Ady Williams but what a fuck up when you have no backroom staff willing to stay on and work as caretaker.

nobody wants to end up like iffy did

Me too.  Although he may require a little "trial and error" period.

That's the problem with the manager bringing in his entire own staff, thay all tend to leave when he does, that said I can see no harm in Tuttle staying for another few days if required.  I can see Ifil as caretaker assistant coaching from the bench on saturday as he's suspended!  In the 'good old days' a fella like Trollope here or Tony parkes at Blackburn could always step into the breach as a caretaker when required, but alas McMahon and co got rid of many of the old guard at the club.

No body who knows what's been going on behind the scenes wants to work with a certain member of this board. Arrogant amateur was a phrase used. Who could that be?

hahah I wonder if they actually asked Tuttle or just assumed?

Screw this im going to the Dolly 8)

Regarding Williams taking over ...

When we played Supermarine .. as Wisey was playing he let Aidy take the prematch coaching session which was carried out right in front of me next to the dugouts ...

Seemed to do ok but I think he would struggle to command the respect that Wisey had as a manager if he took over full time ... even tho hes captain hes still relatively new himself at the club ... remembering that BIG RON thing Steve Bleasdale had a similar problem when converting from coach to manager .. mind u he was a total idiot!

Its a bloody big worry for Saturday as basically the players will be managing the team really ... and its a big game !

Caton should be given the job as he's spent so long injured over the past few years, it'll be a good tonic for him and a chance to see if he has another career alternative if the injuries keep coming.

It'll be like getting yourself motivated for a Sunday League game - there actually won't be anybody to analyse what we're doing and change tactics/instructions/make subs.

Reckon Diamandis could do a job?

Maybe he shoudl pop down to office angels and throw this someting in the window...

WANTED: DUGOUT ASSISTANT
Needs basic knowledge of association football, analytical skills and good voice projection. To be prepared to work for a long-established club currently undergoing a bout of 'Greekapnomia', picked up on an unfortunate trip to Newbury. free uniform. Hours 3pm-4.45pm.
Pay: Are you kidding?

they should do a competition for the fans to be manager for a day.

Perhaps that what he has been planning all along....   :shock:
Football manager just isn't cutting it for him anymore, he needs a bigger rush.....
All part of his grand design.

 :soapy tit wank:

Im sending my application in tonight! :mrgreen:

I think I should be the manager

Auction it on ebay to raise funds for the club!

No, Birdy in!!!!!!!

my vote goes to stfcbart

I think they approached him and he turned it down.  Said something about a minor dislike of the board...  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Ive heard Kingy has offered to help out .. well i bet he has!  :doobie:

Gurney is hanging around not doing much he could be put in charge of dug out leaning and technical area handbags.....made for the role.

Good shout on Gurney ... but it appears Paul Evans might be the assistant .. might still be injured i guess .. surely as vice captain Christian Roberts should be doing that? :P

I'm glad Williams has got the temporary job, and im also glad Tuttle is staying on.
I was worried we'd have no one to train the team, seeing as it seemed Tuttle was leaving along with Wise and Poyet  :D

might aswell have got alan reeves.being passed down to whoever wants it,who's next christian roberts?

http://www.gazetteandherald.co.uk/sport/stfc/display.var.984350.0.williams_given_caretaker_role.php



Interesting...

Not sure if this has been posted yet, but the beeb has yet another take on things:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/s/swindon_town/6081354.stm

I would guess Tuttle's experience at Millwall made him realise he was not cut to be a manager which is fair enough. He's done us a favour by turning it down.

Williams looks like management material to me. It's just the way he conducts himself on the pitch and in interviews. I think he will command the respect of the players and, fingers cross, he will be able to steady the ship for the rest of the season and get us a top three finish.

Beyond that, with Diamond Mike and his Firm in charge, God knows what's lying in wait for STFC.

Martyn Stames, how long has he been on the scene? :shock:

As much as I would back him on Saturday there is NO WAY that he is ready to be a manager of a club ... now that really would be a cheap option!!! Typical of this board tho - wheres the ambition guys?

Please not Williams- not another cheapo option

Will they ever learn- sadly i dont think so

Was thinking exactly the same thing.


Well actually thats a lie, I was thinking who the fuck is Martyn Stames, and why does he spell Martin the gay way?

Well I'm glad Bart and Fatberry are "in the know" and have let us all know that he's not good enough and it's a cheap option.

I was worried we might all get behind the club and find something to smile about.

I'm just glad Barty and Fatbury have told us to stop being open minded and accept that it's all shit, early doors. God forbid we go through the season and we do well, fuck that, lets hope it's all gonna go down the fucking pan.

Cunts, what happened to someone having a fair crack and all that jazz.

Tuttle has gone up in my estimate.....can't have been easy to turn it down, but I sense its the right decision...couple of draws and the job would have been his.

   Williams talks well.....seems like an intelligent man, but the same applied to Iffy.

    Working with Newbury, must be like having two arms tied behind your back to start with.

So..... Who does Williams know who he could bring in as a new player/assistant manager?
Someone from the Welsh set-up?

Anyway - good for him to step up to the plate - We're all behind you Ade! Granted most people are behind you with hidden knives ready to stab you in the back the moment you fall, but at least we're behind you.

 I don't think its been officially confirmed yet.......

Amen to that :nod:

We aint accepting the cheap option

he'll be getting my support for as long as he does the job.  However, I have reservations about him being offered it long term.  Not because I don't think he could it, I have no idea on that, but simply because going from being the players mate to being the boss is a tough move even if he had the skills.  The Bleasdale experiment showed it at it's most spectacular worst.

It also puts a strain on him as a player, and he really is the man holding the defence together as a unit with his experience and communication.  I'd hate for us to end up losing that because he has to dedicate more time to Managing.

Fuck off you TWAT! You spend all your time moaning like a little bitch that this boards useless. You wouldn't be happy whatever.

A. If Williams doesn't work out, you'll bitch that it was the 'cheap' option.

B. If the club got a high profile name, as soon as results dipped, you'd be moaning that they wasted money on a big time charlie.

For fucks sake! I'd like to know what you do for a living, you snivelling little cunt, I bet it's not in football.

Some things are beyond the fans control, get behind Adie. Get behind the team!! If it doesn't work, then moan and bitch.

P.S Fuck off Bart, you twatting wankstain cunting prick.

In my opinion he could well be the best man for the job, as has been said before he talks a good game and is a great influence on the pitch and has been involved in training already anyway.

Course the lack of an assistant on the touchline is most concerning.

I don't think Tuttle has ruled himself out of cone gathering has he? Anyway, I hear David Lee is very strong in that department.

I'd rather Williams than Tuttle.  We have to give him a chance.  Alright he has no managerial experience but neither did Macari, Ardiles or Hoddle and they did alright.  I know you can look at the Iffy/Macca flip side but hey at least give him the benefit of a few games.  We always knew we'd get the cheap option so why think otherwise

if it had to be someone already on our books (lets be honest we all knew it would be) I'm glad its Adie....as I posted a while back

http://www.thetownend.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14776&highlight=player

We need Williams as a Captain and Center Half more than a manager, getting a decent center half and on field motivator like Ady is going to be harder than finding a manager.Surely this is only going to be short term thing, they can not be that naive :shock:

Stop being so prophetic DV

I did say we'd go up as champions...so lets hope the propheticness continues...

adi williams

-goalkepper
-manager
-assistant manager
-defender
-captain

quality

I think they'll want to play for Adi, he's definately a leader.

As long as it doesn't impact on his form on the pitch as he's been terrific.

  Well I beat you to it by 4 days..... ya boo sucks
 

   http://www.thetownend.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14649&start=0

Ady on big bucks then??

And who the fuck was Cunty talking to 'privately' before he went and what about.

Oh and I guess Digby is coming back out of retirment to do the keeper coaching seeing as Bessant has gone as well.

Well I say fair play to the guy for agreeing to it. Let's hope the players and Adie have learned enough of Wise to see them throug until an experienced head comes in. Or atleast until we have somebody to stand on the touchline and wacth the game. Must be one hell of a job to play and analyse at once.

We need an experienced manager. The fans wont stand for anything less

There's fuck all the fans can do about it!

ill stand for a good manager, experienced or not. dont tell me what to expect.

they can stay away which many of them will. After all many of us were conned into buying season tickets under false pretences.

You watch if i am not right, why should we be shit on again, again and again. What other b usiness would treat its customers like that and expect them to keep coming back for another kick in the teeth

If mediocricy is ok for you then you deserve everything this shower of shit give you. Tell me how can their and the Newbury presence help us move forward

1) No investors out there would ever come to us with those currently running the club in charge- that is proved by the Power debacle

2) As above what decent manager will come here? Now Devlin has gone not 1 board member has any football nouse, who will want to work with those clowns

3) The people of Swindon and council blatantly dont trust this regime- so wave godbye to any redevelopment while they are here

Without these 3 in place- how are WE going to go forward. Answer me that one, o are you just happy to kep plugging along awaiting the ultimate day when we drop out of the league, which wont be too far away with these clowns in charge

OK, let me put this to you...

Swindon appoint Gary Speed (for instance) as player manager (hypothetical) - no managerial experience whatsoever.

Swindon appoint some faceless nobody who happens to have managed a L1 team for a couple of years offering no sign whatsoever of progression of tactical nouse.

Which do you prefer?

We are 3rd in the league. We need someone who is a winner with a track record to maintain that
You lots expectations are so low- no wonder they shit on you time and time again

You will fucking piss and moan whoever is appointed because that's all you ever fucking do!

I wont i never moaned about Wise/Poyet. Why? Because they were professionals unlike some of the other recent managers we have had and the board

I put thousands into the following this club. If you dont like others views then dont come on here

:Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: .thats fuckin quality

I have low expectations at the moment yes, but I'm a realist.

I give my Saturdays up week in week out for this lot and would love to see us 30 seconds from a win at Anfield in the league again at some point.  

Furthermore I believe we can achieve this, just look at teams like Burnley and Preston - Reading and Wigan - Watford and Bolton.

Teams that a few years ago looked like they'd never see progress again.  a few years ago Preston were in this league and have featured in the play-offs to go up to the Prem regularly, Burnley were in our division when we won in 95/96 and were close themselves a few seasons ago to the Prem.

Yes Wigan and Reading have had money put in but Wigan were a nothing club going no-where a few years ago and they finished top half in the Prem last seaon.

Bolton are an established club now in a town no doubt finacially much poorer than Swindon, Watford - who'd have thought they'd be in the Prem this season?

OK, OK I'm not saying we're going to see ourselves emmulate these clubs anytime soon, especially with the board we have but who knows where we'll be in 10 or 15 years time.

This board will be gone soon, trust me - they've had enough and have hinted as much in many a statement.  Yes they want money for the privalage of leaving us, but you'd want that too.

OK, maybe we should get in an experienced manager, but at least an internal appointment would just keep things going as they are and probably get us promotion anyway, and when it comes to it I can't see the current board being in charge next season anyway, so the cost of promotion will be incidental.

So again yes, perhaps I'm looking conservative at the moment - we have to given the people in charge - but this time next year we could be looking at promotion from L1 if we do indeed have a new board at the helm by then - who knows?  I don't.

The board know they have made their position untenable now, they must do, not even they can be that oblivious.  Things will get better at some point, until then I'm affraid we're just going to have to put up with it to a certain extent.  No amount of bickering on here is going to change anything at the moment.

Few points Bart:

A: The majority of us who post on here (and elsewhere) put a lot of money into this club pa, whether it be via tickets/away day travel/direct debits to the trust etc... What's your point?

B: You start threads asking questions/making accusations and then disappear when asked to back up your claims.

C: If Bart is Spacey I'm going to stab myself for being such a spaz  :D

do you think anybody bothers to read more than the first couple of sentences

I read it all and was gripped! it was unputdownable! If you read one post this year make it that one!

Yes, because it's me  8) - see:



When it comes to stuff like this you just find yourself posting more than you intend to and it gets to a point where you might aswell carry on or just delete the lot - sometime I delete it all, sometimes I stick with it.

i have a short attent..........

haha unlucky

hehe.

I don't post much these days as I can't get on at work, so when I do post I lke to make the most of it.

Give it a few weeks and it'll be loads of short, sweet, annoying nonsence - you'll appreciate that essay more then.

I read it.....I think the average punter would do well to listen to the words of KT.

Cheers Reg, sometimes we just have to accept our lot as lower league supporters - doesn't mean we don't want more.

Think about it people, if the day does someday come when we grace the premiership again we can say we were with the club through it all - how many Utd or, Arsenal or Chelski fans can say that?

im guessing around the number 0. that correct?

Don't know, I've not actually done a poll.  Sorry mate. :?

 :arsekisser:

forgiven and forgotten.

 Now if that was Birdy...

Look for the bare necessities
The simple bare necessities
Forget about your worries and your strife
I mean the bare necessities
Old Mother Nature's recipes
That brings the bare necessities of life

Wherever I wander, wherever I roam
I couldn't be fonder of my big home
The bees are buzzin' in the tree
To make some honey just for me
When you look under the rocks and plants
And take a glance at the fancy ants
Then maybe try a few

The bare necessities of life will come to you
They'll come to you!

Look for the bare necessities
The simple bare necessities
Forget about your worries and your strife
I mean the bare necessities
That's why a bear can rest at ease
With just the bare necessities of life

Now when you pick a pawpaw
Or a prickly pear
And you prick a raw paw
Next time beware
Don't pick the prickly pear by the paw
When you pick a pear
Try to use the claw
But you don't need to use the claw
When you pick a pear of the big pawpaw
Have I given you a clue ?

The bare necessities of life will come to you
They'll come to you!

So just try and relax, yeah cool it
Fall apart in my backyard
'Cause let me tell you something little britches
If you act like that bee acts, uh uh
You're working too hard

And don't spend your time lookin' around
For something you want that can't be found
When you find out you can live without it
And go along not thinkin' about it
I'll tell you something true

The bare necessities of life will come to you

Its a little known fact that Rudyard Kipling, was named after Lake Rudyard, which is near Leek in Staffs....similarly its a little known fact they lost 2-1 last night at home to Witton Albion.

williams has my full backing but,it seems the job has been passed down the line to whoever will take it.

And his last name was after a range of cakes that his mother was addicted to all through her pregnancy.

Could I point out that Leeds were reduced to having Donkey Geddis on the bench last night as virtually the entire first team coaching staff have now been given the elbow.

And bear in mind that their board forced that move rather than having it forced on them by outside circumstances.

Now that, I just about managed to read and I agree 100%. I have to say, if we ever did get back to the Premiership, I could see myself going to just one or two games a season. The prices are that pissing ridiculous it is not funny.

And Bart, you can do this.... :arsekisser:

Completely the wrong choice .. cheapest of the cheap

It's only the caretaker post.... Who else have we got within the club that wants the temp job?

We don't even know if Williams wants the job permanently... I think it's fair to give the guy a chance while we find a suitable replacement.

thats what they said about Iffy! :|

True

Iffy ws caretaker, next day he was manager

What absolute pricks this lot are

True, but was there an invitation for applicants? I can't remember.

Does anyone know whether Ady Williams has his coaching badges yet?

He doesnt have the full badge .. just the basic ones.

Somehow I dont think it would take long for supporters to turn on Williams -he hasnt totally won over the fans for his play yet- I certainly will not tolerate anything less than the standards already set - which basically means winning every home game and getting the odd good result away - Unlike under Wise tho Im not prepared to be patient - not so much getting at Williams but because I dont really want a cheap option manager whom I find it hard to get behind (- unless its Chalkie!)

Andy Nicholas?

Couple of questions.....

Do you think Adi be donning the tracksuit now he's boss? Most player/managers tend to name themselves on the bench in order to get a better perspective of the game, then perhaps come off the bench if they feel they can change things.

Will he feel he has to name a new captain? If so, who?

Barry Hunter (ex Reading player and recent Rushden Manager) brought in to assist while Williams is Caretaker.

Didn't know he was on the board.

Question is - will Ady put Jon Stewart on the bench on Saturday?

If we were to lose Smith against a free-scoring Imps team then that won't ease the pain will it now!

 :D

The most important question is will Adi employ the clipboard introduced by Dennis, or go back to the fag pack back a la AK??

But at least he's not been out of league football for a decade! :nuts:

I'd have thought you would be able to spot a joke.

I giggled to myself when I posted it

In that girly high-pitched way of yours :kisskiss:

:shock:
Sonic in shock sense of humour admission :wink:

I feel that at this level a clipboard is over complicating things. If you can't sort it out on the back of a fag packet then you aren't cut out to be a Swindon manager.

I used to stick all them packets on the wall and that served as my tactics board. Whenever it looked impossible to get something out of a game I'd look at my board and it would always give me an answer. My favourite was the 4-5-1 against Walsall where I put Cureton and Roberts on the wings. In retrospect maybe it was too attacking, but I had to risk it with 5 minutes left.

What did Sandy say Andy ?

"Oooooooooops I forgot about that one !"

Truely the professional approach. Makes me sick all the modern day computerised how many metres steven gerrard has run bollocks.  I call for the return of managers relying on their own judgement. I respect you Mr King and I hope for a swift return to fag packet management at Swindon Town FC.

I don't know what Sandy said if I'm being truthful. Maybe something about a VAT payment, but it could have been about my enquiry into making a wall of velcro to hang up Sammy Igoe when he was naughty. Sadly she was too late doing that as well.

Williams interview from the Beeb....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/wiltshire/content/articles/2006/10/26/ady_williams_interview_feature.shtml

I thought you always sent him to the naughty step

I can't see why people are moaning about Williams. We had to have somebody to take charge of the team with immediate effect and there was nobody else available!!

It's to hope Stewart is on the bench if we want to ensure avoidance of having our centre-back-caretaker-manager-captain playing in goal

I think people assume he will be given the job full time as a formality. We'll see.

Said on BBC RS that Williams is looking to bring in a 'keeper (obviously) and a central defender.

I guess the managers job makes it harder for him to play, but I hope this is just for cover and not because he isn't intending to play much himself (but Nicho can do 'cover). I'd say he has been instramental in making the back 4 a tighter unit this season.

I agree. It would be a waste to have him sat on the sidelines