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Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: jayohaitchenn on Monday, October 23, 2006, 13:14:31 http://www.swindontownfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/NewsDetail/0,,10341~916582,00.html
the ckubs have failed to agree an acceptable finacial package!!! FUCKING GET IN!!! Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: Johno on Monday, October 23, 2006, 13:15:36 if wise wants to leave this could all change so don't get so excited.
Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: STFC Bart on Monday, October 23, 2006, 13:15:39 Spin
To make it look like they have tried to keep him Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: janaage on Monday, October 23, 2006, 13:15:41 fucking copy and paste I can't remember my user name for that shite site!
Queue Dennis asking to leave and we deciding to accept Leeds' offer? Well it's a possibility! Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: mr ian on Monday, October 23, 2006, 13:16:15 round and round we go it aint over yet
Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: janaage on Monday, October 23, 2006, 13:16:42 Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Get the fook in there!!!! DENNIS WISE'S RED AND WHITE ARMY!!!!!!!!!!!! Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: le god cuervo on Monday, October 23, 2006, 13:18:42 that statement doesn't even make sense! one line says, "Earlier today the Club withdrew permission for Leeds United FC to talk with or seek to appoint Dennis Wise and Gus Poyet" and then a few lines later it says, "Whilst discussions are still ongoing between the two Clubs"
Surely thats just contradicting itself!? Why are discussions still happening if the club have said they can't talk to them anymore?? Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: janaage on Monday, October 23, 2006, 13:19:10 Both clubs continue to hold discussions though. Nooooo!
Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: SwindonStevo on Monday, October 23, 2006, 13:19:50 it is.....sounds like shit.
Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: Piemonte on Monday, October 23, 2006, 13:20:23 WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON?
THIS DOES NOT MAKE ANY SENSE AT ALL Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: Batch on Monday, October 23, 2006, 13:21:14 End of round 1, ding ding, seconds out, round 2. It won't be over until Leeds appoint someone.
http://www.swindontownfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/NewsDetail/0,,10341~916582,00.html Here it is to save you going to the official site: Quote As reported earlier, over the weekend Swindon Town FC received a request from Leeds United FC that they be allowed to speak with Dennis Wise and Gus Poyet regarding the outstanding managerial vacancy at that club. The County Ground Swindon Town FC reluctantly agreed to that request but made clear they would only release Dennis and Gus from their contracts if suitable compensation were paid by Leeds United FC. Regrettably it has proven impossible for the Clubs to agree a suitable financial package. Earlier today the Club withdrew permission for Leeds United FC to talk with or seek to appoint Dennis Wise and Gus Poyet. Dennis and Gus remain valued members of Swindon Town FC as both players and part of the management team. Whilst discussions are ongoing between the two Clubs, Dennis and Guy remain contracted until the end of June 2009 and are continuing to fulfil their duties; both they and the Club are determined to ensure that the progress achieved to date continues. Both individuals have been offered significantly improved terms at the club and it is hoped that they will both remain with Swindon Town FC for the foreseeable future. Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: janaage on Monday, October 23, 2006, 13:22:32 Fucking hell, this is like those seconds just after the referee has blown for an infringement in the box, is it a penalty??? Offside??? Foul on the keeper? What the hell is going on?
Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: WorcesterRed on Monday, October 23, 2006, 13:22:37 Johno - not sure I know what you mean. If Wise decides to leave, why could this all change?
And bart....the earlier statement showed that they had tried to keep him FFS..... The compensation is in the contract I assume - i.e. one years salary - can only assume that Leeds didn't want to pay it all at once and we wanted it in one go??? Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: flammableBen on Monday, October 23, 2006, 13:23:03 We need to make a sacrifice to the football gods. May I suggest DV, Nozza or Tails. Maybe all 3. I'm torn between Crucifiction or burning. Maybe Nail them to a cross and then set it on fire? That might work.
Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: Panda Paws on Monday, October 23, 2006, 13:24:13 I guess Leeds didn't want to spend the £150-200,000 odd in compensation so Swindon are trying to make sure they get the full amount of cash they're owed from their contract.
Look, at least they're having the balls to get the money we're owed. Not impressed they're going ... Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: genf_stfc on Monday, October 23, 2006, 13:24:16 Quote from: "le god cuervo" that statement doesn't even make sense! one line says, "Earlier today the Club withdrew permission for Leeds United FC to talk with or seek to appoint Dennis Wise and Gus Poyet" and then a few lines later it says, "Whilst discussions are still ongoing between the two Clubs" Surely thats just contradicting itself!? Why are discussions still happening if the club have said they can't talk to them anymore?? y ou have to wonder if the club actually reads its own statements before they make them public ?! Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: red macca on Monday, October 23, 2006, 13:24:20 Quote from: "Batch" End of round 1, ding ding, seconds out, round 2. It won't be over until Leeds appoint someone. why the fuck have they said regrettablyhttp://www.swindontownfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/NewsDetail/0,,10341~916582,00.html Here it is to save you going to the official site: Quote As reported earlier, over the weekend Swindon Town FC received a request from Leeds United FC that they be allowed to speak with Dennis Wise and Gus Poyet regarding the outstanding managerial vacancy at that club. The County Ground Swindon Town FC reluctantly agreed to that request but made clear they would only release Dennis and Gus from their contracts if suitable compensation were paid by Leeds United FC. Regrettably it has proven impossible for the Clubs to agree a suitable financial package. Earlier today the Club withdrew permission for Leeds United FC to talk with or seek to appoint Dennis Wise and Gus Poyet. Dennis and Gus remain valued members of Swindon Town FC as both players and part of the management team. Whilst discussions are ongoing between the two Clubs, Dennis and Guy remain contracted until the end of June 2009 and are continuing to fulfil their duties; both they and the Club are determined to ensure that the progress achieved to date continues. Both individuals have been offered significantly improved terms at the club and it is hoped that they will both remain with Swindon Town FC for the foreseeable future. Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: mr ian on Monday, October 23, 2006, 13:24:47 true!!
Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: Scot Munroe on Monday, October 23, 2006, 13:25:09 Quote from: "red macca" Quote from: "Batch" End of round 1, ding ding, seconds out, round 2. It won't be over until Leeds appoint someone. why the fuck have they said regrettablyhttp://www.swindontownfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/NewsDetail/0,,10341~916582,00.html Here it is to save you going to the official site: Quote As reported earlier, over the weekend Swindon Town FC received a request from Leeds United FC that they be allowed to speak with Dennis Wise and Gus Poyet regarding the outstanding managerial vacancy at that club. The County Ground Swindon Town FC reluctantly agreed to that request but made clear they would only release Dennis and Gus from their contracts if suitable compensation were paid by Leeds United FC. Regrettably it has proven impossible for the Clubs to agree a suitable financial package. Earlier today the Club withdrew permission for Leeds United FC to talk with or seek to appoint Dennis Wise and Gus Poyet. Dennis and Gus remain valued members of Swindon Town FC as both players and part of the management team. Whilst discussions are ongoing between the two Clubs, Dennis and Guy remain contracted until the end of June 2009 and are continuing to fulfil their duties; both they and the Club are determined to ensure that the progress achieved to date continues. Both individuals have been offered significantly improved terms at the club and it is hoped that they will both remain with Swindon Town FC for the foreseeable future. I know. Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: Fred Elliot on Monday, October 23, 2006, 13:25:24 Quote from: "red macca" Quote from: "Batch" End of round 1, ding ding, seconds out, round 2. It won't be over until Leeds appoint someone. why the fuck have they said regrettablyhttp://www.swindontownfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/NewsDetail/0,,10341~916582,00.html Here it is to save you going to the official site: Quote As reported earlier, over the weekend Swindon Town FC received a request from Leeds United FC that they be allowed to speak with Dennis Wise and Gus Poyet regarding the outstanding managerial vacancy at that club. The County Ground Swindon Town FC reluctantly agreed to that request but made clear they would only release Dennis and Gus from their contracts if suitable compensation were paid by Leeds United FC. Regrettably it has proven impossible for the Clubs to agree a suitable financial package. Earlier today the Club withdrew permission for Leeds United FC to talk with or seek to appoint Dennis Wise and Gus Poyet. Dennis and Gus remain valued members of Swindon Town FC as both players and part of the management team. Whilst discussions are ongoing between the two Clubs, Dennis and Guy remain contracted until the end of June 2009 and are continuing to fulfil their duties; both they and the Club are determined to ensure that the progress achieved to date continues. Both individuals have been offered significantly improved terms at the club and it is hoped that they will both remain with Swindon Town FC for the foreseeable future. Nail on the head macca my friend ! Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: Armleywhite on Monday, October 23, 2006, 13:26:24 Wev'e had so much of this shit in the past few years were getting numb to it all. I probably think that wise is coming to Leeds, but it's gonna cost us dear I reckon.
Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: janaage on Monday, October 23, 2006, 13:28:15 I thought you boys didn't want him?
You cunts :wink: Our board will probably go for it if you offer Willie Carson a couple of free Leeds Utd season tickets. Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: le god cuervo on Monday, October 23, 2006, 13:28:18 Quote from: "genf_stfc" you have to wonder if the club actually reads its own statements before they make them public ?! they have changed it since it was first put on there! the line about 'ongoing discussions' has been removed. i wonder if they'll take out 'regrettably' now? Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: Batch on Monday, October 23, 2006, 13:28:25 Quote from: "Armleywhite" Wev'e had so much of this shit in the past few years were getting numb to it all. I probably think that wise is coming to Leeds, but it's gonna cost us dear I reckon. "So much shit". You should try being us for a bit! At least you have a plan and a man that will get you out of it. Bates may be a cunting wanker gnome, but he will make Leeds a success. Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: mr ian on Monday, October 23, 2006, 13:31:48 question - why do we want wise if the only reason he is staying is because the clubs cant agree on money? not because he wants too.
Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: Armleywhite on Monday, October 23, 2006, 13:32:03 Quote from: "janaage" I thought you boys didn't want him? You cunts :wink: Our board will probably go for it if you offer Willie Carson a couple of free Leeds Utd season tickets. :soapy tit wank: To be fair we still dont want him. However, he's probably the best of some of the shite that has been linked!! He's a feisty little shit and it's just what we need in the dressing room at the moment! You seen our fu*king results lately? Fu*k me, my sons team could shaft LUFC at the mo! Too man y diva's in our dressing room that need their fat arse kicked!! Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: red macca on Monday, October 23, 2006, 13:32:47 Quote from: "mr ian" question - why do we want wise if the only reason he is staying is because the clubs cant agree on money? not because he wants too. because he has proved to be a good manager and their is no way we could afford to get rid of him and poyet.Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: RobertT on Monday, October 23, 2006, 13:32:54 No real change, just that Wise can't talk personal terms yet. If Leeds are that interested that they went public, then I'd guess they'll continue negotiating the release fee until it satisfies both sides.
I'm intrigued what we have offered Wise as an improvement. More money would suggest the alleged Devlin recklessness was actually investment in the clubs future. Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: Armleywhite on Monday, October 23, 2006, 13:33:14 Quote from: "Batch" Quote from: "Armleywhite" Wev'e had so much of this shit in the past few years were getting numb to it all. I probably think that wise is coming to Leeds, but it's gonna cost us dear I reckon. "So much shit". You should try being us for a bit! At least you have a plan and a man that will get you out of it. Bates may be a cunting wanker gnome, but he will make Leeds a success. You not seen what we been through the last few seasons? I must admit I don't like Wise, but I do think he is the start of something bigger!! Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: mr ian on Monday, October 23, 2006, 13:33:31 its a shame we want a manger that dosent want us then
Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: red macca on Monday, October 23, 2006, 13:34:32 Quote from: Armleywhite Quote from: "Batch" Quote from: "Armleywhite" Wev'e had so much of this shit in the past few years were getting numb to it all. I probably think that wise is coming to Leeds, but it's gonna cost us dear I reckon. "So much shit". You should try being us for a bit! At least you have a plan and a man that will get you out of it. Bates may be a cunting wanker gnome, but he will make Leeds a success. You not seen what we been through the last few seasons? I must admit I don't like Wise, but I do think he is the start of something bigger!![/quote]he is only 5"4 Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: yeo on Monday, October 23, 2006, 13:37:35 Im inclined to agree with Bart it looks like spin to me as well.
Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: Armleywhite on Monday, October 23, 2006, 13:38:11 Quote from: red macca Quote from: "Armleywhite" Quote from: "Batch" Quote from: "Armleywhite" Wev'e had so much of this shit in the past few years were getting numb to it all. I probably think that wise is coming to Leeds, but it's gonna cost us dear I reckon. "So much shit". You should try being us for a bit! At least you have a plan and a man that will get you out of it. Bates may be a cunting wanker gnome, but he will make Leeds a success. You not seen what we been through the last few seasons? I must admit I don't like Wise, but I do think he is the start of something bigger!![/quote]he is only 5"4 :soapy tit wank: :soapy tit wank: Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: Spud on Monday, October 23, 2006, 13:41:30 Quote from: "Armleywhite" Wev'e had so much of this shit in the past few years were getting numb to it all. I probably think that wise is coming to Leeds, but it's gonna cost us dear I reckon. Oh boo hoo, i'd hate to be in The Championship. :roll: Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: janaage on Monday, October 23, 2006, 13:41:38 You're shit smell of roses compared to ours mate. Let's have a peak at the last 16 years.
90 onwards - We get promoted, then demoted two divisions within days (reinstated to second div.) We lose Ossie to Newcastle and we narrowly avoid the drop to the third div. Hoddle sorts us out gets us back up to the premier league. Then leaves days after to join Chelsea. Our biggest season ever is a disaster. back down to second div. We then go down to 3rd div, McMahon is now our manager, who not only is a fucking clueless scouse bastard, he's also a cunt who procedes to rip the heart out of the club....... Shall I go on? Look at your terrible last 16 years. You return to the top flight, win the league, have a great champions league run. Then suffer in the premiership a little and end up in the vastly improved Championship. Where you struggle but are by no means in the shit that we have been in for the last 8 years or so. Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: McLovin on Monday, October 23, 2006, 13:43:20 Hey, we did win Div 2... :?
Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: juddie on Monday, October 23, 2006, 13:43:34 means wise and gus may go end of season?
Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: Panda Paws on Monday, October 23, 2006, 13:44:57 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/leeds_united/6076568.stm
BBC story updated Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: Armleywhite on Monday, October 23, 2006, 13:45:39 Yeah, your right guys...... Your fucked!! :wink:
Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: janaage on Monday, October 23, 2006, 13:47:24 Quote from: "Dave Blackcurrant" Hey, we did win Div 2... :? I started getting depressed whilst writing that so I had to cut it short. I "regrettable" sacrificed boring our new Leeds friend with our conceding a last minute goal to Brighton and then losing on penalties, just for a shot of getting back into that God forsaken league that his club are very nearly propping up. Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: Armleywhite on Monday, October 23, 2006, 13:51:21 Bleeding hell, this is like a my clubs shitter than your's comp!
Did you see our performance at Cardiff last year? :D Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: Scot Munroe on Monday, October 23, 2006, 13:53:03 Quote from: "Armleywhite" Bleeding hell, this is like a my clubs shitter than your's comp! Did you see our performance at Cardiff last year? :D Yes i did. You were pants. Playing with 1 up front very negative. Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: janaage on Monday, October 23, 2006, 13:53:09 Did you see ours at Forest?
Townend.com 1 Armley white 0. Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: Panda Paws on Monday, October 23, 2006, 13:53:36 Just flashed on Sky Sports news now
Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: fatbury on Monday, October 23, 2006, 13:56:04 what does it say?
Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: magic8ball on Monday, October 23, 2006, 13:56:24 Quote from: "Chris K" Just flashed on Sky Sports news now Who did? I hope it was Millie Clode.... Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: Armleywhite on Monday, October 23, 2006, 13:57:06 Quote from: "janaage" Did you see ours at Forest? Townend.com 1 Armley white 0. OK, ok I concede.. your much more shite than we have ever been!! :D Still, you do have that mad fukking roundabout that shafts me everytime I'm there!!! :soapy tit wank: Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: Scot Munroe on Monday, October 23, 2006, 13:57:44 Quote from: "magic8ball" Quote from: "Chris K" Just flashed on Sky Sports news now Who did? I hope it was Millie Clode.... No. She was on in the morning. She is quite fit though. Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: Panda Paws on Monday, October 23, 2006, 13:59:22 Quote from: "magic8ball" Quote from: "Chris K" Just flashed on Sky Sports news now Who did? I hope it was Millie Clode.... Nah Vicky Gommersal ... still nice :) Haha - anyway, just said we'd withdrawn permission etc Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: genf_stfc on Monday, October 23, 2006, 14:06:20 this improved offer thing - is this just to see if Wise and Poyet accept a bigger wage ? then the 'one year's salary' clause means we get a lot more compensation (...which will probably back fire since no other club will be willing or able to pay more compo and then we will be left unable to pay the higher wages...)
Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: Fred Elliot on Monday, October 23, 2006, 14:08:31 Spin Spin Spin !!!!!!!
Do you honestly think they would go so public if it is not going to happen ? I would be sooooooo happy to be wrong ........................ but I think the deal will be done by the Lincoln game :( Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: sonic youth on Monday, October 23, 2006, 14:09:41 regardless, this statement is slightly better than the previous ones...
leeds are gonna have to pay a bomb if we're asking for the full compensation we're owed - 12 months for each of 'em - and they're still pretty skint. mcallister wouldn't cost 'em a penny and it wouldn't have any effect on us. we want mcallister! Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: fatbury on Monday, October 23, 2006, 14:10:32 sadly thing Fred is right .. i say sadly i think Fred is right!
Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: Scot Munroe on Monday, October 23, 2006, 14:11:25 Quote from: "sonic youth" regardless, this statement is slightly better than the previous ones... leeds are gonna have to pay a bomb if we're asking for the full compensation we're owed - 12 months for each of 'em - and they're still pretty skint. mcallister wouldn't cost 'em a penny and it wouldn't have any effect on us. we want mcallister! Leeds fans no 1 choice is Gary Mac. Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: SwindonTownFC on Monday, October 23, 2006, 14:14:30 Quote from: "SwindonUltra" Quote from: "sonic youth" regardless, this statement is slightly better than the previous ones... leeds are gonna have to pay a bomb if we're asking for the full compensation we're owed - 12 months for each of 'em - and they're still pretty skint. mcallister wouldn't cost 'em a penny and it wouldn't have any effect on us. we want mcallister! Leeds fans no 1 choice is Gary Mac. so what?? the fans dont pick the manager Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: STFCBird on Monday, October 23, 2006, 14:15:56 Quote from: "fatbury" sadly thing Fred is right .. i say sadly i think Fred is right! you crack me up Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: Panda Paws on Monday, October 23, 2006, 14:16:03 SSN just said Leeds have "confirmed talks are ongoing" ...
Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: DribblingSissy on Monday, October 23, 2006, 14:16:30 I love it when you post SwindonTownFC....your avatar is sweet!
:dance: Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: Swindon_gol on Monday, October 23, 2006, 14:16:37 Just said on SSN that Leeds still say talks are ongoing!!
Please help me im confused! Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: sonic youth on Monday, October 23, 2006, 14:18:31 it's not over until leeds announce they've ended discussions, but if our board are indicating that they won't settle for less than the designated amount of compensation then bates may have no choice but to look elsewhere.
one positive would be that i think wise and poyet are professional enough to buckle down and get on with the job should they remain at the club. personally i think the only reason wise is interested in the leeds job is because of ken bates. Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: Scot Munroe on Monday, October 23, 2006, 14:18:51 Quote from: "DribblingSissy" I love it when you post SwindonTownFC....your avatar is sweet! :dance: Recently Divorced Jessica Simpson. :wink: Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: Spud on Monday, October 23, 2006, 14:20:32 All the fans want Gary McCallister so why are they still going with Wise?, oh then again it's Ken Bates who's in charge.
Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: yeo on Monday, October 23, 2006, 14:20:53 Quote from: "Swindon_gol" Just said on SSN that Leeds still say talks are ongoing!! Please help me im confused! Swindon are pretending to try a bit harder to keep him so that a.we get more money out Leeds b.they can say to the fans "look we tried our best to keep him" Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, October 23, 2006, 14:21:02 We had something similar when Bates poached Hoddle.....eventually Chelsea had to pay some compensation for the playing side of his contract, which went to a tribunal.
It doesn't get this far and not go through.....its just a case of us trying to get he best deal....which may well involve both being registered as players and the need to compensate this. Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: Fred Elliot on Monday, October 23, 2006, 14:25:49 Quote from: "Yeovil Red" Quote from: "Swindon_gol" Just said on SSN that Leeds still say talks are ongoing!! Please help me im confused! Swindon are pretending to try a bit harder to keep him so that a.we get more money out Leeds b.they can say to the fans "look we tried our best to keep him" Spot on Yeovil Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: Batch on Monday, October 23, 2006, 14:25:52 Indeed, it's just a matter of time unfortunately. Can't see how it could be anything else now, they want him, he wants to go.
We need every last penny for him, and rightly so. Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: land_of_bo on Monday, October 23, 2006, 14:29:45 Let's face it. Would the clubs even be discussing compensation if he didn't want to go?
Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: mr ian on Monday, October 23, 2006, 14:31:10 so hes going again now :-))(
Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: Fred Elliot on Monday, October 23, 2006, 14:32:57 Quote from: "mr ian" so hes going again now :-))( From the moment it went on the official site then he was going Just a case of when and how much compo But believe me ..................... he's going ! Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: mr ian on Monday, October 23, 2006, 14:33:55 Quote from: "Fred Elliot" Quote from: "mr ian" so hes going again now :-))( From the moment it went on the official site then he was going Just a case of when and how much compo But believe me ..................... he's going ! i believe you dont kno why? Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: Fred Elliot on Monday, October 23, 2006, 14:37:59 Like I have said, as soon as he publicaly questioned how the 750k overspend occured, I thought "oh oh thats not good, he's going !"
Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: Armleywhite on Monday, October 23, 2006, 14:40:28 Quote from: "Spuddy_STFC" All the fans want Gary McCallister so why are they still going with Wise?, oh then again it's Ken Bates who's in charge. Check out the message boards, we DON'T want macca!! Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: Piemonte on Monday, October 23, 2006, 14:42:03 who do you want then?
Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: jayohaitchenn on Monday, October 23, 2006, 14:42:13 who DO you want then?
moaning northern bastards! Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: DribblingSissy on Monday, October 23, 2006, 14:43:51 probably want Chris Moyles.....stupid Leeds Twats....
.....Wise or McCallister would be a good appointment! Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: sonic youth on Monday, October 23, 2006, 14:44:15 dave bassett is a cuntwipe
Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: WorcesterRed on Monday, October 23, 2006, 14:44:40 Quote Like I have said, as soon as he publicaly questioned how the 750k overspend occured, I thought "oh oh thats not good, he's going !" Does anyone/everyone think that Wise is not to blame here though. I don't like the initial comments 'Want to work from the bottom up' to then potentially walk out after 15 games to a team two divisions higher. That does not sound like 'working from the bottom up' to me, it sounds like hypocracy - saying one thing and doing another. No doubt should he go, it'll be because of the board situation but how about commenting on what you said when you came here Dennis? The board have made mistakes no doubt and I can see them being blamed but I do hate someone saying one thing and then doing the complete opposite. Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: fatbury on Monday, October 23, 2006, 14:47:37 I dont think hes to blame ... BUT ... id still boo him if he came back .. mainly as I hate Leeds and anyone who wants to go there deserves to be booed .. I bloody hate that Bates .. this could be 2 managers hes nicked off us on the cheap
Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: Scot Munroe on Monday, October 23, 2006, 14:47:39 Quote from: "sonic youth" dave bassett is a cuntwipe But Georgie Thompson is not. Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: Armleywhite on Monday, October 23, 2006, 14:48:25 Quote from: "jayohaitchenn" who DO you want then? moaning northern bastards! Give us a kiss lovey!! :soapy tit wank: Shit loads of names were / have been bandied about but none of them were taken seriously. Macca was mentioned and the bookies went to town. Just cos he's ex Leeds most realise he's not much good managerially. Just take a look at ex Leeds players, not ONE have been a decent manager, with the exception of Bremner!! Curbishly was the only real want for most Leeds fans.. Mind you, Pardew has recently been thrown into the mix as a there are a couple of prem managers that seem interested in Leeds! Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: DribblingSissy on Monday, October 23, 2006, 14:48:36 Until he ACTUALLY does something i'd lay off him to be honest....as of the last time I looked he is still the manager of our football club and has got us with enough points so far to end up getting near 3 figures if we carry on at this rate!
If (or when in most people's opinion) he leaves in the next few days.....THEN is the time to slag him or the board or whoever you blame off! Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: Fred Elliot on Monday, October 23, 2006, 14:53:47 Quote from: "WorcesterRed" Quote Like I have said, as soon as he publicaly questioned how the 750k overspend occured, I thought "oh oh thats not good, he's going !" Does anyone/everyone think that Wise is not to blame here though. I don't like the initial comments 'Want to work from the bottom up' to then potentially walk out after 15 games to a team two divisions higher. That does not sound like 'working from the bottom up' to me, it sounds like hypocracy - saying one thing and doing another. No doubt should he go, it'll be because of the board situation but how about commenting on what you said when you came here Dennis? The board have made mistakes no doubt and I can see them being blamed but I do hate someone saying one thing and then doing the complete opposite. I am sure that Dennis will give his own version of events, he has always seemed a straight up kind of bloke to me so I am sure that the reasons will be revealed Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: Fred Elliot on Monday, October 23, 2006, 14:54:32 Quote from: "SwindonUltra" Quote from: "sonic youth" dave bassett is a cuntwipe But Georgie Thompson is not. Does this really fucking belong on this thread ??????? Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: sonic youth on Monday, October 23, 2006, 14:57:30 shut up fred.
i wonder if there's any chance of poyet deciding to stay at swindon? Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: spacey on Monday, October 23, 2006, 14:57:54 Quote from: "Fred Elliot" Quote from: "SwindonUltra" Quote from: "sonic youth" dave bassett is a cuntwipe But Georgie Thompson is not. Does this really fucking belong on this thread ??????? Didn't you two used to be friends? I think it's sad that you squabble....I mean all ultra did was put up a pic of you looking like Princess Di. No one is going to stalk you.......actually did fatbury see it? Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: fatbury on Monday, October 23, 2006, 15:00:34 :nod:
Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: Fred Elliot on Monday, October 23, 2006, 15:02:47 Quote from: "spacey" Quote from: "Fred Elliot" Quote from: "SwindonUltra" Quote from: "sonic youth" dave bassett is a cuntwipe But Georgie Thompson is not. Does this really fucking belong on this thread ??????? Didn't you two used to be friends? I think it's sad that you squabble....I mean all ultra did was put up a pic of you looking like Princess Di. No one is going to stalk you.......actually did fatbury see it? Still is Spacey I just think that if Ultra wants to drool over Georgie Thompson then he should do it in the General Discussion thread Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: Fred Elliot on Monday, October 23, 2006, 15:07:44 Quote from: "sonic youth" shut up fred. i wonder if there's any chance of poyet deciding to stay at swindon? No I wont shut up Sonic In fact if things keep going as they are I will become even more vocal Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: fatbury on Monday, October 23, 2006, 15:09:01 probably end up banned if u disagree with Sonic!
Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: Fred Elliot on Monday, October 23, 2006, 15:10:18 meh
Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: McLovin on Monday, October 23, 2006, 15:15:37 Quote from: "fatbury" probably end up banned if u disagree with Sonic! I know. He's such a cunting dictator... Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: Piemonte on Monday, October 23, 2006, 15:17:26 I've always respected a good facist dictator. They know what they want and they know how to get it.
All hail Kaiser Sonic! Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: lumpimynci on Monday, October 23, 2006, 16:07:10 I think you can go overboard insisting that this is all the boards fault.
After all, I'm sure it wasn't them that insisted on this release clause being included in the contract. Dennis asked for it. At the start of the season. (When no-one had mentioned any £750k deficit. And your lot's hero, Mr Bill Power, was still at the club throwing around promises of massive investment, letting his mate Mark D run up a big overdraft.) This was always going to happen if Leeds ran into trouble, no matter what Den might have said in press conferences, and there's bugger all the board can do about it that they haven't done. It's just life supporting a club like ours. If you can't handle it then bugger off and support Chelsea. Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: Dazzza on Monday, October 23, 2006, 16:10:32 Quote from: "fatbury" :nod: Genius Fatbury, had me laughing all the way to the pisser. Tutt's as new gaffer with Lee as assistant and Williams stepping up his coaching role. As with Iffy/Woan and Reeves I wouldn’t expect replacements for their previous roles to save a few quid. Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: DV on Monday, October 23, 2006, 16:23:46 I like the fact we have withdrawn permission, however if a club want a manager they usually get him...Dowie at Charlton and Parkinson at Hull just two recent examples.
As for the comments about Wise not wanting to be here, where has Dennis Wise said he wants to join dirty Leeds...not once has he said it, just because the board have allowed Leeds permission to talk to him doesnt mean Wise wants to leave or go to dirty Leeds. Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: Arriba on Monday, October 23, 2006, 16:35:31 he should have said so then dv
Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: DV on Monday, October 23, 2006, 16:39:55 probably...but he hasnt said anything either way...
I expect he wants to leave, his recent comments in the media have indicated that he isnt happy with the board....and he was very pissed off with the sacking of Linda Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: Fred Elliot on Monday, October 23, 2006, 16:44:34 Quote from: "DV85" I like the fact we have withdrawn permission, however if a club want a manager they usually get him...Dowie at Charlton and Parkinson at Hull just two recent examples. As for the comments about Wise not wanting to be here, where has Dennis Wise said he wants to join dirty Leeds...not once has he said it, just because the board have allowed Leeds permission to talk to him doesnt mean Wise wants to leave or go to dirty Leeds. I agree with you DV However, Dennis likes things to be done behind closed doors and quietly (the Bob Holt statement for eg) What if certain promises were made when he came that now cannot be fulfilled ? I just got this feeling in the pit of my stomach (and its only a personal opinion I might add) that Denins now knows more with regards to finances and he is not comfortable about it Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: Arriba on Monday, October 23, 2006, 16:45:26 he should finish what he's started here!
Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: Armleywhite on Monday, October 23, 2006, 16:47:28 Quote from: "DV85" I like the fact we have withdrawn permission, however if a club want a manager they usually get him...Dowie at Charlton and Parkinson at Hull just two recent examples. As for the comments about Wise not wanting to be here, where has Dennis Wise said he wants to join dirty Leeds...not once has he said it, just because the board have allowed Leeds permission to talk to him doesnt mean Wise wants to leave or go to dirty Leeds. Dirty Leeds!! :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: We couldn't be dirty if we rolled round in pig shit all day. Those days are long gone my friend!! Wise is not really wanted at ER, cept for one reason. He is probably the only nasty little cunt that can get the squad in oreder to actually try to play fucking football! Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: DV on Monday, October 23, 2006, 16:57:17 Quote from: "Armleywhite" Quote from: "DV85" I like the fact we have withdrawn permission, however if a club want a manager they usually get him...Dowie at Charlton and Parkinson at Hull just two recent examples. As for the comments about Wise not wanting to be here, where has Dennis Wise said he wants to join dirty Leeds...not once has he said it, just because the board have allowed Leeds permission to talk to him doesnt mean Wise wants to leave or go to dirty Leeds. Dirty Leeds!! :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: We couldn't be dirty if we rolled round in pig shit all day. Those days are long gone my friend!! Wise is not really wanted at ER, cept for one reason. He is probably the only nasty little cunt that can get the squad in oreder to actually try to play fucking football! It was only in the paper two days ago that Leeds have the most hooligan banning orders in football :D Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Monday, October 23, 2006, 17:00:57 someone is telling porkies! Leeds are saying negotiations are ongoing while we are are saying we have halted them. i find it strange that we have said DW/GP have been offered new improved deals as well. does that mean that the move to Leeds has all but been agreed and we are making a last ditch attempt to keep them here? we can't turn down compensation we have a 750k overspend to cover
Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: Armleywhite on Monday, October 23, 2006, 17:08:15 Quote from: "DV85" Quote from: "Armleywhite" Quote from: "DV85" I like the fact we have withdrawn permission, however if a club want a manager they usually get him...Dowie at Charlton and Parkinson at Hull just two recent examples. As for the comments about Wise not wanting to be here, where has Dennis Wise said he wants to join dirty Leeds...not once has he said it, just because the board have allowed Leeds permission to talk to him doesnt mean Wise wants to leave or go to dirty Leeds. Dirty Leeds!! :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: We couldn't be dirty if we rolled round in pig shit all day. Those days are long gone my friend!! Wise is not really wanted at ER, cept for one reason. He is probably the only nasty little cunt that can get the squad in oreder to actually try to play fucking football! It was only in the paper two days ago that Leeds have the most hooligan banning orders in football :D Oh bolox!! :soapy tit wank: Those orders are cos of the nazi style stewards we have at Elland Road. Total cunts they are. I can see it kicking off big style if they don't back off. We all know that the law prohibits the standing at matches, but if the action of the pitch gets to you, cos your nearly scoring then you tend to stand. Those pricks walk round, in their bright orange coats snarling and trying to get peeps to sit. Trouble is, if you don't do it straight away they fetch the old bill. Cunts.. Even the coppers are getting royally pissed of with it! I'm so suprised that no one has been smacked yet. Only a matter of time. Especially the way feelings are at the mo! Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: RobertT on Monday, October 23, 2006, 17:08:31 Quote from: "lumpimynci" I think you can go overboard insisting that this is all the boards fault. After all, I'm sure it wasn't them that insisted on this release clause being included in the contract. Dennis asked for it. At the start of the season. (When no-one had mentioned any £750k deficit. And your lot's hero, Mr Bill Power, was still at the club throwing around promises of massive investment, letting his mate Mark D run up a big overdraft.) This was always going to happen if Leeds ran into trouble, no matter what Den might have said in press conferences, and there's bugger all the board can do about it that they haven't done. It's just life supporting a club like ours. If you can't handle it then bugger off and support Chelsea. There isn't any overdraft - the bank withdrew that facility a few years ago. It's an overspend as at the end of the next financial year based on committed spending (including win bonuses, promotion bonuses etc). Agree there isn't much we can do about it and I don't think the Board can do anything to really stop it from happening. Also, I don't think Wise would be a traitor for taking the job if offered, it's a massive opportunity (if maybe a risk). It's in his contract, shit happens. Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: mr ian on Monday, October 23, 2006, 17:08:44 it will be more than 750 if we keep uping their wages everytime another club sniffs arounds them
Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: jayohaitchenn on Monday, October 23, 2006, 17:11:44 Quote from: "mr ian" it will be more than 750 if we keep uping their wages everytime another club sniffs arounds them stupid thing to say Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: mr ian on Monday, October 23, 2006, 17:12:53 Quote from: "jayohaitchenn" Quote from: "mr ian" it will be more than 750 if we keep uping their wages everytime another club sniffs arounds them stupid thing to say why? Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: jayohaitchenn on Monday, October 23, 2006, 17:13:39 you don't think they are worth an increase?
Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: mr ian on Monday, October 23, 2006, 17:19:16 Quote from: "jayohaitchenn" you don't think they are worth an increase? not yet maybe if we get promoted. i didnt think we had any money anyway? Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: Samdy Gray on Monday, October 23, 2006, 17:19:30 Quote from: "jayohaitchenn" you don't think they are worth an increase? Of course they are, we just can't fucking afford it! Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: jayohaitchenn on Monday, October 23, 2006, 17:20:18 but we can afford it, Seton Wills has got loads stashed away the tight cunt.
Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: Samdy Gray on Monday, October 23, 2006, 17:26:18 Quote from: "jayohaitchenn" but we can afford it, Seton Wills has got loads stashed away the tight cunt. :doh: Have you been in a coma for the last couple of weeks? Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: herthab on Monday, October 23, 2006, 17:37:50 Quote from: "jayohaitchenn" but we can afford it, Seton Wills has got loads stashed away the tight cunt. Doesn't mean he has to spend it all on Swindon though, does it? He's already pissed millions away, poor bloke. And all we do is give him shit. Feel a bit sorry for him actually...........................Then I think of MD and SG....... Pity SSW doesn't have better contacts/advisors. Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Monday, October 23, 2006, 17:39:15 Quote from: "jayohaitchenn" but we can afford it, Seton Wills has got loads stashed away the tight cunt. yeah and we have a CVA of 900,000 to pay and also a 750,000 overspend to cover Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: jayohaitchenn on Monday, October 23, 2006, 17:42:25 he's got it. where do you think the increased wages are coming from?
Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: Fred Elliot on Monday, October 23, 2006, 17:45:21 Quote from: "jayohaitchenn" but we can afford it, Seton Wills has got loads stashed away the tight cunt. :roll: :twisted: Wrong Just simply and plain wrong Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: RobertT on Monday, October 23, 2006, 17:45:44 While I reckon it would indeed be worth it if it meant keeping Wise and we would lose him otherwise, it would put a strange light on their "allegations" around the already committed overspend.
Why was it wrong for one senior club employee to spend money on things meant to improve our chances of promotion but ok for others? Obviously that's if money was offered, in fairness it says better terms, so maybe they offered everything bar cash (struggling to think what) Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: Piemonte on Monday, October 23, 2006, 17:46:43 those highly valuabe and sought after stfc shares rob :wink:
Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: herthab on Monday, October 23, 2006, 17:48:30 Quote from: "Fred Elliot" Quote from: "jayohaitchenn" but we can afford it, Seton Wills has got loads stashed away the tight cunt. :roll: :twisted: Wrong Just simply and plain wrong Glad to see I wasn't the only one who thought so. To have a go at the board for being inept is one thing. To personally attack the bloke that's bankrolled our club is another. :wanker: Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: RobertT on Monday, October 23, 2006, 17:50:18 Quote from: "Piemonte" those highly valuabe and sought after stfc shares rob :wink: Surely the only improved offer they could make is take some off his hands. Maybe we gave him some when he signed originally and he now knows their real worth - debt liability! Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: Kinky Tom on Monday, October 23, 2006, 17:51:40 What's all this about anyway?
Way I see it is that we could well be in the same division as Leeds next term whether they get their man or not and if I were Wise I'd rather get a team into L1 by going up with them rather than getting relegation to said division. Surely he's got to think of the potential effect on his future cv? I mean taking us up and possibly pushing on from there is more attractive than taking a club of Leeds stature to L1? Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: Fred Elliot on Monday, October 23, 2006, 17:52:19 Quote from: "RobertT" While I reckon it would indeed be worth it if it meant keeping Wise and we would lose him otherwise, it would put a strange light on their "allegations" around the already committed overspend. Why was it wrong for one senior club employee to spend money on things meant to improve our chances of promotion but ok for others? Obviously that's if money was offered, in fairness it says better terms, so maybe they offered everything bar cash (struggling to think what) So.................. the board can qoute that Linda Birrell was released as a cost cutting measure (which severely pissed Dennis off !) Then they turn around and offer increased terms. All this when a 750k overspend has already been commented on in the media by Dennis Would'nt you scratch your head ? :shrug: Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: RobertT on Monday, October 23, 2006, 17:57:26 Quote from: "Kinky Tom" What's all this about anyway? Way I see it is that we could well be in the same division as Leeds next term whether they get their man or not and if I were Wise I'd rather get a team into L1 by going up with them rather than getting relegation to said division. Surely he's got to think of the potential effect on his future cv? I mean taking us up and possibly pushing on from there is more attractive than taking a club of Leeds stature to L1? Nah, if this logic was used by Managers then Sturrock would not have gone to Sheff Weds like so many before him. Wise could well see: 1) a team that when doing well can bring in great crowds and plaudits for him 2) a squad that is underperforming - play offs last season with little change since then 3) take home pay 4) the fact that any job he goes to from here will be with a club struggling. How often do Managers get offered roles at clubs doing well. Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: herthab on Monday, October 23, 2006, 18:02:56 Wise will go. No question. He was ambitious as a player and he's ambitious as a manager.
Maybe he would've stayed if Power and his money were still around, but I think he now feels that he'll be unable to acheive what he wants, given the financial constraints he'll be working under. It's never dull being a Swindon fan, is it? Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: fatbury on Monday, October 23, 2006, 18:11:35 soon will be again under the new low quality manager
Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: magnum150 on Monday, October 23, 2006, 20:31:13 I had believed he may show some loyalty and a desire to see the job through.
How wrong I was :shake: Gutted truly gutted. Title: WISE IS STAYING!! Post by: Johno on Monday, October 23, 2006, 20:32:14 Quote from: "Johno" if wise wants to leave this could all change so don't get so excited. look what i said |