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...for being a complete and utter fucking idiot.

It was only the other week he saying was claiming the great signing of Poyet and Wise was all his doing, so we should love him.

Less than 3 months into a 3 year, yes 3 year contract they decide to leave and all we are going to get a one years worth of compensation when they have 2 years and 9 months to run on their contract.

What a fucking joke...why put in such a stupid clause like that, ah wait I bet Devlin did it  :roll:

fucking pathetic the lot of you and the sooner you fuck off from this football club the better

To be fair, we may not have got Wise if it hadn't been for that clause.  I don't know. Same old Swindon though, shafted on money.

Maybe we shouldn't do 'everything' to get our man next time.

that a joke clause....1 year pay when they have almost 3 years on their contract...that pathetic and stupid...I cant see any logic in it what so ever

It was never all his doing tho ... Wisey's dad and Powers dad used to go to school together .. its obvious that Power got Mike D to do the final negotiations so it didnt look like Power was taking over completely ... as thats the kind of respectable gentleman he is .. unlike Mike D who claimed it all as his own

diamandis claimed it was all him, so he should take the blame for an all mighty fuck up

hear hear DV

Totally with you here DV!

Nice. Another pointless knee jerk reaction without any factual basis whatsoever.

None of us know if DW insisted on this clause or if he would still have agreed to be our manager if the clause included full contract compensation.

So please shut up

tell me why does the level of compensation matter to Wise, it has nothing to do with him at all?

He doesnt receive it...and if a club in the championship REALLY wanted him to be their new manager they would stump up the cash regardless.

It's quite likely Wise insisted on it, or it was seen as necessary to entice him.  I have no issue with the clause.

Are you serious?

A club would much rather have to pay only 1 years wages instead of 3... It makes sense.

Wise probably did insist on this clause, it means it wouldn't put as many suitors off should they want him as their manager.

Stupid comments regarding Diamandis and the 1 yr thing. It's laughable to think that diamandis wanted only 1 year compensation! He's not fucking mindless.  :roll:

I know you are not thick VD, but come on :roll:

A potential employer has to pay less to get DW as manager, thus increasing the chances of him being offered the job in the 1st place. Most championship clubs may be richer than us but are far from rolling in cash - you know that.

Assuming DW & GP are on £100k a year each, Leeds would have had to pay roughly £550k to pay up their contracts now. Instead, they have to pay £200k.  That makes them a more attractive proposition - simple

I would agree with RobT, it would have been put in there on Dennis' request.

Indeed it does and I understand that, and why Wise would want that.

However...the board must have know Dennis Wise was a good manager and would be winning games with us and attract other teams, that was a given....we all knew it....if that WAS the case why didnt we try a little harder to get a bigger compensation clause.

Contracts are two way things...just because Wise wanted a certain clause doesnt mean we should have given it to him.

STFC comes before Dennis Wise....and this clause isnt the best for STFC is it....

How do you know how hard they tried? how do you know that that clause wasnt a "deal breaker" with Wise?

you dont, therefore you dont really have a point

I dont know...but what I do know is we are being shafted out of 1 year and 9months worth of compensation, which in truth we desperatly need

We are not being shafted out of anything, a contract is a contract.

wise wouldn't of come here unless he had that clause in his contract so i dont see how you can blame the board. it was that or no wise

We dont know whose fault it is as to why that clause is in there but in reality most contracts regarding football have some sort of clause for the players or staff to better themselves if given the chance, Put me in that position i would certainly want some sort of safety clause.

Its just fucking typical that we lose brezovan and then possibly the biggest game of our season so far (Lincoln) and we could quite possibly be managerless   :(  :cry:

I don't see this as getting shafted. Getting shafted would be if you had a manager on a 12 month rolling contract and had to pay his wages for a year after he had been sacked for being crap...

 :mrgreen:

hes worth more than we will get im sure we all agree that ..

We only get a years compensation from a 3 year deal? Seriously?

Fuck me, I've just read the Beeb and that seem to be true.

Fuck it. Board, you can take me to court if you want, it would only confirm my belief that you're all fucking nuts.

You could look at this a different way though.

The board suddenly offer out three years contracts when one year has been the norm for seasons.

Why? Because if Wise was on a one year contract and a bigger club poached him we'd get exactly fuck all. However, Wise is on a three year contract which is more appealing than a one year contract and also means we get a nice bit of compo if he fucks off.

Or...

they could show some fucking forsight and keep a duo who could get us out of this shitty league.

But that would be far too sensible.

Money talks and we ain't got any Sam.

but if we didnt have the 1 year clause and he fucks off...we'd get even more compo?

but if we didnt have the 1 year clause he may not have joined in the 1st place and we'd be stuck with *insert name of shit lower division manager here*

round and round we go

exactly

But what if that was not the only condition?

Playing budget
Backroom staff budget
Friday travel and overnight stays for away games

etc
etc
etc

What if that is being reneged on ?

Just a thought

I imagine the background stuff may well impact on his decision making.  Much of the overspend relates to things Wise wanted, and are currently bearing fruit for us, as he wanted control of the football side of things.  To then have that publicly questioned, in a round the houses way, must grate a little.  Add Bob's ability to wind him up and the fact that the 3 people he worked directly with (Power, Devlin and Linda) all going, or all but gone, and I would assume he wouldn't be over the moon.

That said, I'd still just about back him to have gone to Leeds even if everything was ok.

wish he was gonna stay

Give it a fucking rest you moronic cunt.

i dont understand . do you not agree with me then? Why else is Wise likely to leave then? :|

Careful fatters

just not happy with the boards part in all this really

what do u mean? prove anything?

what do you think i want you to prove...

your frighteningly small penis size OR the basis of your opinions and how they relate to wise leaving?

well cant be the penis ! and i would have thought the reason wise wants to leave as obvious - ambition?

stop being a cock

Linda gets sacked, Wise does angry interview on Radio

In an interview just the other day he claims he has no idea where the overspend has come from.

That in itself indicates Wise is far from happy with the board, but no because fatbury said it....it must be false

Some of you lot just disagree with him for the sake of it, yes he makes some stupid claims (we all do)

but for fuck sake get a grip

Wise clearly isnt happy working under the current board, that I expect will be one of the reasons why he doesnt 'finish what he started'

thanks DV  :thumbs:

blah blah we all know the fucking board is filled with tossers and a "woman" who's an accountant that can't add up....shall we change the record or do something about it?

wise leaving won't affect us that much, we have a core of players that were already here and are performing well (in that we're gettin results)

Very true and I dont disagree....but to claim that our board and how they run the club will have no influence on Wise decision to stay here or go to Leeds is just wrong.

He hasnt said as much, but has quite clearly hinted in interviews that he isnt happy with the way the club is run.

Just because nobody else will I'm going to defend Sandy Gray. VAT is much more than just adding up. You have to know how to do percentages as well. Of course this could confuse even the greatest of accountant types

sell out

also dont under estimated the impact Wise departure will have...

Some people are Bennett

Si, I agree.  Surely what with all the cost cutting over recent years we have done away with excel and calculators in favour of pencils and paper.  It can't be easy...

I FUCKING KNOW AND IT WAS A FUCKING RALLYING CALL!!!! grrr

...and some people aren't privvy to such confidential and sensitive information

or rather the do-gooders arent making their progress public....

which is a big no-no you're supposed to be representing the fans....so tell us what you're doing....not just that you are doing something because that doesnt help