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From Roddy Radiations post on myonlyswindon.com

'Just seen this article in the WDP and it sounds like they are after Devlin now for unauthorised spending. It also says "Earlier this week Holt told the Daily Press that Devlin had agreed the deal to bring Paul Ince to Swindon without the 'appropriate consultation' of the board" but on the official site when Ince signed the following was said "The board of Swindon Town FC would also like to thank acting Chief Executive James Wills and Finance Director Sandy Gray for their tireless work in putting the deal together to bring Paul Ince to the club"
I think Mr Holt is a bit confused over the truth here.'

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Seems to me the club want to blame the Ince transfer on Devlin. But at the time the official site said that James Wills and Sandy Gray were the ones who engineered the deal.

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Come on Town fans. For once dont take this. If the club goes back to the way it was I dont think I can bear to see us run down any longer. We need football people pulling the club up by its football socks. Weve suffered enough.

WDP link (http://www.westerndailypress.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=145787&command=displayContent&sourceNode=145780&contentPK=15495305&folderPk=69656&pNodeId=145803)

i agree! i just wish there was a Roman Abramovich out there but there isn't  :(

I wonder what the disciplining will be for Devlin then? Lets have a show trial.

And all the while Town fans say. 'Lets base it on the facts here'.  :arsekisser:

to be fair, it seems that everytime bob holt opens his mouth, he contradicts something he said earlier and seems to have the same effect of chucking petrol on a fire.

mark devlin's comment about how overspends or whatever should be talked about in the board room and no where else is spot on, if anyone needs disciplining he wouldn't be top of my list !

But frankly I know nothing, and I'm getting bored of the board now - I'll be happy with 2-2 tomorrow...

There's always Milan Mandaric  8)

he said he was thinking about taking on another lower league club again

Or Rupert Lowe

please not rupert lowe.

So theres two people who will never invest in STFC. They are not comming. Fact. :clown:

We had a good rich football orientated man chairman in the wings. He was called Bill Power.  :disapprove:

Bob Holt doesn't know anything. The impression I get is that he makes big statements based on his version of the facts and when it turns out he is completely wrong he's left with egg on his face. This has seemingly happened quite a bit this week.

I think it just confirms how good Devlin's PR have been.

I've just heard through the grapevine that Barry Fry could be coming to STFC :?  You heard it here first.

Yes there is....that guy that invested loads in Chelsea....


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Grapevine! Have you been hanging around that Buckfast vinyard again Si?   :D

I quite like Barry but there's not much life left in the old dog is there?

TBH, Barry Fry is a decent man who loves his football. But I reckon it's bollocks.

No shit  :wink:

Do not want Fry within 100 miles of this club

Reason he pulled out of peterboro(smaller club) was that he could not take them any further. What good in that case would he be to us

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Like i said earlier in the week, Good Ol' Sandy Gray wants shot of both Devlin and Sullivan.

The decent thing would be for her to fuck off right now and leave Football matters to people who know what they're doing, she's just a mumbling embarrassment.

why?

I think the assumption that Devlin could be sacked is probably a fair one, but that's just it - could be sacked. Obviously the club would be saving themselves money if he were to leave.

However, equally the board may look at Devlin and think 'wow, he got us an investor; he's a good PR man; he knows what he is doing football wise. Let's not forget he was voted in as a director by this board.

My only fear is that the board take a short-term view to save themselves a few quid. But until it happens I won't moan about the board.

I get the feeling (personally) that Power decided at some point after the crash (probably quite recently) he didn't want to be involved in the club due to ill health. Probably up until that point he had promised to make up any shortfalls in the finances necessary to give STFC the best chance of promotion/build for a future. All of these meetings etc. probably haven't been to mend a rift, but to persuade Power to stay on. Dare I say I can actually buy the ill health story because Power or his representatives haven't made any press statements, suggesting to me that he wants to keep his head down and focus on rebuilding his life.

Of course it could just be that the relationship has turned sour after Power tried to increase his shareholding, but the timing would be a little bizarre considering he's still recovering from the crash.

i don't want to bang on about knowing more than anyone else etc, but what i do know is that i've been told from a reliable source that devlin is as good as gone - whether he's been pushed or has walked, i don't know.

and now it seems the story begins to unravel as RS just mentioned Power wanting his money back with a dispute over whether it's shares (clubs view) or a loan.  The fact the club "believe" it to be shares, suggests issues.

Devlin is 99% likely to be sacked I think.  I'll never guarntee anything in football, but it seems almost a done deal.

I don't know why? but ive been told that what i had previously said could be a reality on Monday.

Devlin and Sullivan will be gone- victims of this double crossing, cheating, lieng shambles if parasites

SimonPieman are you really that niave?

Turn up on Wednesday

I don't see these statements as naive.

I'm still surprised Power hasn't released a statement or made some sort of contact with the fans. Unless of course he is too unwell.

I dont think Bill would have left us so suddenly and so completely if it had been ill health.  The bloke has severed ALL ties with STFC. :shake:

Why invest all that money, then pull out in less than a week, even if you are very ill. The Ince signing just doesnt make sense.

None of it really makes sense, which is why all this second guessing is going on. Until Devlin/Power tell us what happened exactly this is all we can do.

Maybe when Power has recovered a bit more he might tell the fans (he did wait a bit with the QPR fans to tell them what went on). But I highly doubt we'll find out through him. He seems to have just disappeared never to be seen again.

Simon it all makes perfect sense

Power came along, wih £1.1m initially ivested, with more to follow. This was 33% ofte club.

The existing incompetent lot were threatened by the football knowledge and affinity built withe the fans, byPower and Devlin.

The plan crash was an ideal excuse o push Power out. Basically Carson visited them in hospital but no one else from the club ent near- why dont you think we heard updates on Powers progress but everyone elses?

Basically Mike Diamandis/Dunwoody will be running the club again as they were pre Devlin coming back on the scene/Power arriving. This will have the following consequences:


1) Wise will leave- notbecause of any job but he will not work under this lot. Power/Devlin bought him to the club despite what lies Diamandis has spewed out

2) Back to the days of awful PR, no communication with the fans, no accountability

3) Likely player sales in January- also the wage bill will be significantly reduced and likely to be well below the average for league 2 by the time the season finishes

Basically this board slagged off Terry Brady/Blatchley/Donegan. Yes they were only interested in the property but at least they were honest. Diamanids/Dunwoody just wants his cut from any redevelopment. He has never put a penny into STFC and has no intention of doing so.
The drip feeding stagnation will continue under this regime, as much as i thank SSW for keeping us alive, this is no longer acceptable, the Wills family must take responsibility for the management they are allowing to destroy the club.

Basically in a nutshell, Powers arrival was a threat to Diamandis and Dunwoody, it was likely that Bill had more investors lined up which would hav threatened SSW share of STFC, hence impacting on Diamandis.

You can sit on th fence and ignore what is going on all you like, however your club will b decimated by the time this parasite has finished with it

Oh and by the way: Ben Lambert future son in law of Mikey the greek lined up to take Sullivans job- how bloody convenient.

They have also pushed Devlin out ofthe door- he will resign or be sacked. Basically that stupid cow Sandy Gray and J Wills sanctioned the Ince deal- If SSW did not want to stump up he only had to say no.

The whole thing fucking stinks

Whilst none of what Bart says is based on fact, he actually makes a coherient and intelligent post for a change.

Personally I am waiting to see what pans out over the next week or so, particularily to see whether the Trust can shed any factual light on the matter.

One thing strikes me as true, I can't see how Devlin can stay now given our budget crisis, Holts accusations by media and Powers withdrawl. Personally I think this will be devastating. I'll be delighted if I am wrong.

I wish you were wrong Batch- but you are not. These events will have a domino effect

Oh and ho can you say these are not based on fact

FACT- Power put in 1.1m, we have been told buy Holt as 33% of the club
FACT- Devlin is being pushed- media accusations alone tell you that
FACT- The Dunwoody lot are incompetent
FACT-It was Sandy Gray and James Wills who worked "Tirelessly" to bring in Ince- SSW could have pulled out at anytime if he wasnt happy with stumping up- blaming Devlin is just an excuse to push him out
FACT- Dunwoody would be running the club(into the ground) again
FACT- This would mean serious playing budget cuts so wave goodbye any chance of promotion
FACT-Power/Devlin brought Wise to Swindon- he wont stay and work under the other lot

Suggest you listen to Mike Wilkes- he speaks a lot of sense and has hit the nail right on the head

the truth will out, either on tuesday or wednesday morning depending on whether the board decide to ruin our chances against wycombe.



you're not wrong, devlin will be gone by this time next week and it will be a devastating loss to the club - how quickly did things improve off the pitch when he returned? for the answer to that, note how quickly things have gone sour again.

whilst i always previously dismissed bart's rantings as those of a insane man, not only have they started to become reality but they fit in with the things i've heard myself.

and who is mike wilkes?

Sonic it will be truly devestating- watch Wise and Gus quickly follow afterwards

Maybe then the fans will realise that Diamandis and Dunoody are bastards and its time we got them out of our club
he chances of attracting investors now aftr this is zero. No one will work with these people and that includes Wise and Poyet

Sonic, the guy in question is arthurhorsfield on MOS.  He's an ex chairman of the Supporters Club so you could say would normally not be the sort of person you'd expect to lose it over club politics.

He's an Executive Club member, so stumps out several thousand a year on the corporate side and a previous investor in the club.  He has been close enough to the action to have spoke to both sides I believe.  When people like him flip, you know there are problems.

Exactly Rob.

I have been continually atacked on here for my views- but it gives me no pleasure at all what is happening to our club, i am devestated.

Whats slightly irritating is that many of our fans do not even know who Diamandis is- hopefully after Wednsday this will change.

Ho much longer are we going to sit back, be fed more lies and let them get away with it, that is what annoys me most

Bart - do you work for the club out of interest?

No-thank god! But i do know of people who have inside info (not giving anynames of course) and have experience of people with have had business dealings with Diamandis

Oh and another thing- expect a response from SSW in the next few days which will be written by Diamandis. It will basically be the usual threats- shut up or we will pull out and you will have nothing

did you go to the game yesterday mr bart?

My point was why would they bring Power on board in the first place? The only reason I can think of is that they wanted a quick buck but have now thought better of it? But it is strange why they'd try and chuck him out now (and leave themselves with a substantial amount of money to find). Clearly something has taken place but it's all a bit strange.

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Your constantly attacked because of the repetition of your posts.

Actually, that's not strictly true...

Which part of it? That Power and Devlin brought Wise here or that he won't stay and work with the "other lot" (or our esteemed board as I'm sure Bart meant to say)?

Wisey knows the Power family from his childhood days,and with Devlin's involvement at QPR with Power, things manifested from there.
Unless you know different Tails?

Cheers,
Millom

FACT - simply putting the word FACT in capital letters at the beginning of a sentence doesn't automatically make it a true statement, particularly when it's pure speculation or opinion.

And the fact you do not back up a single thing you say. If I may ...

FACT off.