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Title: This board is poison to our club Post by: Spencer_White on Thursday, September 21, 2006, 18:24:22 As far as I can see they dont have any intention of investing in us. It took a genuine football man to come in and turn this club around, and he didnt even have any previous connection to STFC.
We'll never go anywhere with this lot. No investor will work with this board again. Whats most annoying is they dont seem to care what the fans think, they dont speak to us. They dont feel that they have to. All they care about is a few homes when the stadium is redeveloped. And everyone buys it. Why? Title: This board is poison to our club Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Thursday, September 21, 2006, 18:27:11 i dont. we need someone to come in like Rupert Lowe or Milan Manderic who knows how to run a football club. that wont happen i dont think. our board are clueless its true and i couldn't agree with you more Spence
Title: This board is poison to our club Post by: fatbury on Thursday, September 21, 2006, 18:34:43 hear hear
Title: This board is poison to our club Post by: Spencer_White on Thursday, September 21, 2006, 18:38:03 It took about 5 weeks of the old guard running the show again for things to go tits up.
Its always the same. They push the panic button. I dont have any confidence in Sandy Gray. She comes across as a complete fuckwit. I dont want her back running STFC. AAAAAAHHHHHH! Title: This board is poison to our club Post by: Fred Elliot on Thursday, September 21, 2006, 18:41:38 I am sure that we dont fully know the whole truth at this moment in time.
Listen, I feel the same tonight, I spoke to PaulD earlier and I was nearly in tears through frustration BUT I have said already that the truth will out and I stand by that. until then we can only speculate which will get us all even more agitated and despondent. My first action will be to travel to Nottingham on Saturday and show the players and the management team that, whatever has gone on behind the scenes that my support is 150% with them Title: This board is poison to our club Post by: fatbury on Thursday, September 21, 2006, 18:42:05 Holt and Gray have no idea and are totally out of touch with the real fan ... we really should have a proper set of demonstrations to sort this lot out this time ..
Title: This board is poison to our club Post by: Fred Elliot on Thursday, September 21, 2006, 18:46:16 Quote from: "fatbury" Holt and Gray have no idea and are totally out of touch with the real fan ... we really should have a proper set of demonstrations to sort this lot out this time .. Calm down Fatters if any demo's need arranging (which I dont particuarly dissagree with) they need to be structured and managed correctly. I urge anybody that really wants to voice suppot to join the trust and demonstrate collectively by what ever means. However, any demo must be constructive and just not a vehicle for people to vent thier spleens. Title: Re: This board is poison to our club Post by: Tails on Thursday, September 21, 2006, 18:46:37 Quote from: "Spencer_White" As far as I can see they dont have any intention of investing in us. It took a genuine football man to come in and turn this club around, and he didnt even have any previous connection to STFC. We'll never go anywhere with this lot. No investor will work with this board again. Whats most annoying is they dont seem to care what the fans think, they dont speak to us. They dont feel that they have to. All they care about is a few homes when the stadium is redeveloped. And everyone buys it. Why? Yeah, not like the Wills family has ever invested anything in the club. The bar stewards. Title: This board is poison to our club Post by: fatbury on Thursday, September 21, 2006, 18:46:56 I agree .. the L&P team should be able to sort something out
Title: This board is poison to our club Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, September 21, 2006, 18:47:18 Quote from: "fatbury" Holt and Gray have no idea and are totally out of touch with the real fan ... we really should have a proper set of demonstrations to sort this lot out this time .. I think even a fairly small and persistent ugly presence might have some impact......it was the 40 odd demonstrating, causing an exit through the club shop that got King the sack, because that was close to the Board Don't suppose too many know what Diamandis looks like anyway. Title: This board is poison to our club Post by: Fred Elliot on Thursday, September 21, 2006, 18:50:54 Quote from: "fatbury" I agree .. the L&P team should be able to sort something out Rob (and Alan) have already put on the record that the way forward is to join the trust and become one collective voice ! Credit cards out chaps please http://www.truststfc.co.uk/join.php You know it makes sense !!!!!! Title: This board is poison to our club Post by: fatbury on Thursday, September 21, 2006, 18:51:18 im fully behind whatever L&P Organise .. just hope they do it soon
Title: This board is poison to our club Post by: Dazzza on Thursday, September 21, 2006, 18:53:25 Quote from: "Fred Elliot" Quote from: "fatbury" I agree .. the L&P team should be able to sort something out Rob (and Alan) have already put on the record that the way forward is to join the trust and become one collective voice ! Credit cards out chaps please http://www.truststfc.co.uk/join.php You know it makes sense !!!!!! Sign up online here... http://www.truststfc.co.uk/merchandise.php Title: This board is poison to our club Post by: Fred Elliot on Thursday, September 21, 2006, 18:55:11 Thanks Dazza - OK if you wanna buy a mug !
:Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: sorry .............know your intentions, as always are good Title: This board is poison to our club Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, September 21, 2006, 18:57:25 Quote from: "fatbury" im fully behind whatever L&P Organise .. just hope they do it soon I suspect the Quiet and Ashamed campaign may have a significant result v Boston with at least a couple of thousand protesting by being too ashamed to attend. Title: Re: This board is poison to our club Post by: Spencer_White on Thursday, September 21, 2006, 18:59:36 Quote from: "Tails" Quote from: "Spencer_White" As far as I can see they dont have any intention of investing in us. It took a genuine football man to come in and turn this club around, and he didnt even have any previous connection to STFC. We'll never go anywhere with this lot. No investor will work with this board again. Whats most annoying is they dont seem to care what the fans think, they dont speak to us. They dont feel that they have to. All they care about is a few homes when the stadium is redeveloped. And everyone buys it. Why? Yeah, not like the Wills family has ever invested anything in the club. The bar stewards. Im sorry Tails. Im sick and tired of the state of this club. Im sick of boardroom people telling us that they saved STFC, STFC is a blackhole and so on. When they are the ones taking money out of the club to finance endless attempts at a new stadium which the fans arent really interested in. How much was spent on Shaw Tip? More than our record transfer fee ever. Weve got 2000 more fans on everyone else in this league, we could be a good club. OK SSW has invested in us. But what will his legacy be at the club? Inflicting us with the anonymous shady Newbury bunch and Sandy dimwit gray. Thats unfair, but ive got the rage beyond belief. Are we destined to failure forever because of overspending in the early/mid 1990's? Bill Power invested in us, and made a difference so we cant be that far gone. And i tell you one other thing. For the FIRST TIME IN YEARS we got a reduction in ticket prices this summer. I didnt expect that, but many people took it for granted. Expect 23 quid again next season. Shout scream, say whatever you want, they dont give a shit. They will fuck us over again. Title: This board is poison to our club Post by: Batch on Thursday, September 21, 2006, 19:01:30 Quote from: "Fred Elliot" Thanks Dazza - OK if you wanna buy a mug ! :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: sorry .............know your intentions, as always are good Or a TRustSTFC membership ;) Title: Re: This board is poison to our club Post by: Tails on Thursday, September 21, 2006, 19:09:15 Quote from: "Spencer_White" Quote from: "Tails" Quote from: "Spencer_White" As far as I can see they dont have any intention of investing in us. It took a genuine football man to come in and turn this club around, and he didnt even have any previous connection to STFC. We'll never go anywhere with this lot. No investor will work with this board again. Whats most annoying is they dont seem to care what the fans think, they dont speak to us. They dont feel that they have to. All they care about is a few homes when the stadium is redeveloped. And everyone buys it. Why? Yeah, not like the Wills family has ever invested anything in the club. The bar stewards. Im sorry Tails. Im sick and tired of the state of this club. Im sick of boardroom people telling us that they saved STFC, STFC is a blackhole and so on. When they are the ones taking money out of the club to finance endless attempts at a new stadium which the fans arent really interested in. How much was spent on Shaw Tip? More than our record transfer fee ever. Weve got 2000 more fans on everyone else in this league, we could be a good club. OK SSW has invested in us. But what will his legacy be at the club? Inflicting us with the anonymous shady Newbury bunch and Sandy dimwit gray. Thats unfair, but ive got the rage beyond belief. Are we destined to failure forever because of overspending in the early/mid 1990's? Bill Power invested in us, and made a difference so we cant be that far gone. And i tell you one other thing. For the FIRST TIME IN YEARS we got a reduction in ticket prices this summer. I didnt expect that, but many people took it for granted. Expect 23 quid again next season. Shout scream, say whatever you want, they dont give a shit. They will fuck us over again. I'm with you all the way mate, but still if it wasn't for SSW we wouldn't have a club. A club with our stature doesn't deserve this, but still we could just be over reacting and Power could sell his shares to someone like..oh I dunno, Rupert Lowe. *beginneth the rumour mill* Title: This board is poison to our club Post by: Spencer_White on Thursday, September 21, 2006, 19:21:45 Yeah, you are correct. We sailed close to the wind. But do we deserve to support a club that is rotten ad infinitum? Getting cast offs from other clubs. Having to be grateful for a conference team (99-02 and 05-06) and paying the highest prices in the league for it (00-06)?
And one other massive thing Ive got to get off my chest. Quite often you hear a chairman say 'if someone who can take the club forward comes along, Il move aside'. Could you EVER, EVER, EVER imagine anyone in our current lot EVER making that sort of statement? They dont care if the club moves forward or not. They want their property deals. And then they pull our heartstrings and take advantage of our love for the club. Except this time I dont think we will be quite so apathetic. A million isnt a lot in football (really) and it shown what a difference it makes. THEY OWE US THIS TIME. Im sick of you failing us board, selling us short. DONT EXPECT ME TO BE GRATEFUL ANYMORE! You wankers. The ground is going nowhere. Your interest in the team has been proved to be miserly. Shape up or fuck off. Title: This board is poison to our club Post by: Piemonte on Thursday, September 21, 2006, 21:30:34 a loud and proud board out protest. :mrgreen:
face painting for the kids, free balloons. They could hand out cards to the nationwide to make a picture of diamandis being stabbed in the head or something Title: This board is poison to our club Post by: reeves4england on Thursday, September 21, 2006, 21:32:03 Quote from: "Piemonte" a loud and proud board out protest. :mrgreen: As conservative as I am being about the whole sack the board thing, I'm liking this idea!face painting for the kids, free balloons. They could hand out cards to the nationwide to make a picture of diamandis being stabbed in the head or something Title: This board is poison to our club Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, September 21, 2006, 21:33:00 Quote from: "reeves4england" Quote from: "Piemonte" a loud and proud board out protest. :mrgreen: As conservative as I am being about the whole sack the board thing, I'm liking this idea!face painting for the kids, free balloons. They could hand out cards to the nationwide to make a picture of diamandis being stabbed in the head or something You just want the balloons. Title: This board is poison to our club Post by: reeves4england on Thursday, September 21, 2006, 21:35:13 Quote from: "Reg Smeeton" Quote from: "reeves4england" Quote from: "Piemonte" a loud and proud board out protest. :mrgreen: As conservative as I am being about the whole sack the board thing, I'm liking this idea!face painting for the kids, free balloons. They could hand out cards to the nationwide to make a picture of diamandis being stabbed in the head or something You just want the balloons. Title: This board is poison to our club Post by: DV on Thursday, September 21, 2006, 21:42:18 the thing that has angered me most in this thread if fatters suggesting l&p should arrange something....
L&P (for most of the time) are just people who put out a few flags and cutouts.....they have no so or no envolvment in the running of the club As Rob rightly points out, thats what the Trust is for.... Yet, they go unnoticed and you think L&P..... has everyone gone fucking stupid... Title: This board is poison to our club Post by: Dazzza on Thursday, September 21, 2006, 21:58:23 Quote from: "Batch" Quote from: "Fred Elliot" Thanks Dazza - OK if you wanna buy a mug ! :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: sorry .............know your intentions, as always are good Or a TRustSTFC membership ;) I've finally coughed up and bought mine today. If the shit does hit the fan and it usually does at some point then it's important there's some numbers behind the Trust. Oh and Fred bloody scroll down a bit first eh chief? :wink: Title: This board is poison to our club Post by: RobertT on Thursday, September 21, 2006, 22:10:56 Whilst I believe L&P as such shouldn't really get involved, I'm changing my opinion. I know you are just having fun Reg, but I'm sure you are actually quite concerned.
If it came to it, and it might do soon, I'd suggest it to the people who have coughed up cash and do what was necessary. The Trust are the correct vehicle for proper change though. I would suggest people join. After several years trying to stay out of that side of things and then thinking it would cause issues with being a member of the two, I'm off to join I think. We just purchased 75m by 2m of Red Material, maybe we could end up using it!! Title: This board is poison to our club Post by: RobertT on Thursday, September 21, 2006, 22:11:49 Quote from: "fatbury" I agree .. the L&P team should be able to sort something out We might, but probably through backing Trust STFC in any campaign should one be needed. Title: This board is poison to our club Post by: Batch on Thursday, September 21, 2006, 22:16:09 I joined the trust tonight online. One easy paypal payment of just £10.
http://www.truststfc.co.uk/merchandise.php Title: This board is poison to our club Post by: DV on Thursday, September 21, 2006, 22:23:31 if we were to protest, it should be as one....l&p, supporters club, trust...and regular fans....
if anything it should be trust branded, they are certainly more involved within the club than the other lot... Title: This board is poison to our club Post by: Piemonte on Thursday, September 21, 2006, 22:29:39 Quote from: "RobertT" We just purchased 75m by 2m of Red Material, maybe we could end up using it!! Cool, you can use it as blood squirting from diamandis head in the nationwide card holding picture muriel thing :wink: On a serious note - fuck it, i'm joining the tust Title: This board is poison to our club Post by: RobertT on Thursday, September 21, 2006, 22:30:30 I did suggest earlier that we could create something using the paper and just not let the club know what is was going to be!!
Title: This board is poison to our club Post by: DV on Thursday, September 21, 2006, 22:33:35 Hmmm....BOARD OUT?
Title: This board is poison to our club Post by: lumpimynci on Friday, September 22, 2006, 08:44:51 Can I ask a question?
What the fuck are you all planning to protest about? The official story seems fairly reasonable to me: - BP, having been talked into the investment in the first place by MD has had second thoughts about throwing himself into a load of work and expense, what with him getting on a bit in age, having nearly died, and still having a load of serious injuries - In those cirumstances, if I wasn't a supporter of the club I'd be thinking "fuck it, I'll just put my feet up for a bit"! Why are you all so convinced that BP's actually been pushed out by the shadowy forces of the Greek mafia, who are desperate to hang on to the controls of the STFC gravy train? How exactly do you think he was "pushed out" anyway? What with both sides admitting that there's been no contact between the 2 parties until the end of this week, other than get well cards and the letter from BP's wife explaining that he's too sick to come out to play. How do you exert pressure on someone without seeing them or speaking to them? The fucking nut-job conspiracy theories are all very amusing but there based on a very, very flawed premise; that STFC is some kind of valauble asset that the current majority shareholders are jealously guarding, being prepared to use all manner of dirty tricks to hang onto it. If that was the case, when MD introduced BP to the board, why didn't they just tell him they weren't interested? What's at the heart of the arguments in this thread is the same kind of paranoid, puffed up with self importance bullshit that's brought us over the last few decades: - Honda wanted to invest millions and run the club - But were turned down - Allied Dunbar wanted to invest millions but were turned down - Burmah Castrol were set to take-over but the club pulled out Face the facts there is no queue of wealthy suitors at the door that SSW keeps knocking back. This is a company with no tangible assets, a laughable turnover and no profit margin. NO FUCKER WANTS IT! Every time an opportunity has arisen to get new money into the club and for SSW to pull back a bit he's taken it, (to the extent that he was perhaps a bit too keen to pull out during the whole Brady/DD affair and the club nearly went tits up) In that light all the panicked activity last week makes a bit more sense - less "that fucker Power is trying to take over lets stop him", and more "oh fuck! He's not coming on board! And we've spent the money!" The rest of you can believe what you like but you're inches away from the nutters that post crap about the DoE murdering Diana and UN leaders being giant lizards from Venus! And FFS don't organise a protest! A protest does actually need to be about something, to try to make something happen or stop something from happening. Just being generally dissappointed in the turn of events and angry and frustrated and so lashing out incoherently shouting and stamping your feet is not a protest it's a tantrum! And your all old enough to know better. Title: This board is poison to our club Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Friday, September 22, 2006, 08:49:17 Quote from: "lumpimynci" Can I ask a question? What the fuck are you all planning to protest about? The official story seems fairly reasonable to me: - BP, having been talked into the investment in the first place by MD has had second thoughts about throwing himself into a load of work and expense, what with him getting on a bit in age, having nearly died, and still having a load of serious injuries - In those cirumstances, if I wasn't a supporter of the club I'd be thinking "fuck it, I'll just put my feet up for a bit"! Why are you all so convinced that BP's actually been pushed out by the shadowy forces of the Greek mafia, who are desperate to hang on to the controls of the STFC gravy train? How exactly do you think he was "pushed out" anyway? What with both sides admitting that there's been no contact between the 2 parties until the end of this week, other than get well cards and the letter from BP's wife explaining that he's too sick to come out to play. How do you exert pressure on someone without seeing them or speaking to them? The fucking nut-job conspiracy theories are all very amusing but there based on a very, very flawed premise; that STFC is some kind of valauble asset that the current majority shareholders are jealously guarding, being prepared to use all manner of dirty tricks to hang onto it. If that was the case, when MD introduced BP to the board, why didn't they just tell him they weren't interested? What's at the heart of the arguments in this thread is the same kind of paranoid, puffed up with self importance bullshit that's brought us over the last few decades: - Honda wanted to invest millions and run the club - But were turned down - Allied Dunbar wanted to invest millions but were turned down - Burmah Castrol were set to take-over but the club pulled out Face the facts there is no queue of wealthy suitors at the door that SSW keeps knocking back. This is a company with no tangible assets, a laughable turnover and no profit margin. NO FUCKER WANTS IT! Every time an opportunity has arisen to get new money into the club and for SSW to pull back a bit he's taken it, (to the extent that he was perhaps a bit too keen to pull out during the whole Brady/DD affair and the club nearly went tits up) In that light all the panicked activity last week makes a bit more sense - less "that fucker Power is trying to take over lets stop him", and more "oh fuck! He's not coming on board! And we've spent the money!" The rest of you can believe what you like but you're inches away from the nutters that post crap about the DoE murdering Diana and UN leaders being giant lizards from Venus! And FFS don't organise a protest! A protest does actually need to be about something, to try to make something happen or stop something from happening. Just being generally dissappointed in the turn of events and angry and frustrated and so lashing out incoherently shouting and stamping your feet is not a protest it's a tantrum! And your all old enough to know better. good post well said! i think its clear everyone hates the board though. so why not show it? who knows it might even encourage them to sell on? Title: This board is poison to our club Post by: lumpimynci on Friday, September 22, 2006, 08:49:59 Oh and before some cunt says the focus of the protest would be SACK THE BOARD, can you all actually think about what that would mean.
NO BOARD = No Money = No Club So unless a few of you are closet millionaires then I'd forget that one as it really won't fly Title: This board is poison to our club Post by: RobertT on Friday, September 22, 2006, 08:50:37 Who says he was "pushed" as such. I'm not denying he may have wanted to leave, but I think there are questions that the past week has raised about how other people run our club. If you were ill and had just invested a shit load of money into a business only to find the other key person rubbed you up the wrong way, I'd guess you would decide to leave it.
So, not that he was forced out, maybe, just maybe he found himself in a position where he just didn't have to put up with the shit. Title: This board is poison to our club Post by: Bogus Dave on Friday, September 22, 2006, 09:05:16 Quote Can I ask a question? What the fuck are you all planning to protest about? The official story seems fairly reasonable to me: - BP, having been talked into the investment in the first place by MD has had second thoughts about throwing himself into a load of work and expense, what with him getting on a bit in age, having nearly died, and still having a load of serious injuries - In those cirumstances, if I wasn't a supporter of the club I'd be thinking "fuck it, I'll just put my feet up for a bit"! Why are you all so convinced that BP's actually been pushed out by the shadowy forces of the Greek mafia, who are desperate to hang on to the controls of the STFC gravy train? How exactly do you think he was "pushed out" anyway? What with both sides admitting that there's been no contact between the 2 parties until the end of this week, other than get well cards and the letter from BP's wife explaining that he's too sick to come out to play. How do you exert pressure on someone without seeing them or speaking to them? The fucking nut-job conspiracy theories are all very amusing but there based on a very, very flawed premise; that STFC is some kind of valauble asset that the current majority shareholders are jealously guarding, being prepared to use all manner of dirty tricks to hang onto it. If that was the case, when MD introduced BP to the board, why didn't they just tell him they weren't interested? What's at the heart of the arguments in this thread is the same kind of paranoid, puffed up with self importance bullshit that's brought us over the last few decades: - Honda wanted to invest millions and run the club - But were turned down - Allied Dunbar wanted to invest millions but were turned down - Burmah Castrol were set to take-over but the club pulled out Face the facts there is no queue of wealthy suitors at the door that SSW keeps knocking back. This is a company with no tangible assets, a laughable turnover and no profit margin. NO FUCKER WANTS IT! Every time an opportunity has arisen to get new money into the club and for SSW to pull back a bit he's taken it, (to the extent that he was perhaps a bit too keen to pull out during the whole Brady/DD affair and the club nearly went tits up) In that light all the panicked activity last week makes a bit more sense - less "that fucker Power is trying to take over lets stop him", and more "oh fuck! He's not coming on board! And we've spent the money!" The rest of you can believe what you like but you're inches away from the nutters that post crap about the DoE murdering Diana and UN leaders being giant lizards from Venus! And FFS don't organise a protest! A protest does actually need to be about something, to try to make something happen or stop something from happening. Just being generally dissappointed in the turn of events and angry and frustrated and so lashing out incoherently shouting and stamping your feet is not a protest it's a tantrum! And your all old enough to know better. :stupid: 100% agree. Title: This board is poison to our club Post by: STFC Bart on Friday, September 22, 2006, 17:34:40 Wills has kept us alive for which i thank him, but he has drip fedus for years, as long as entrusting the club into the hands of highly incompetent people
Time for him to go, sell up to someone who can take us further Title: Re: This board is poison to our club Post by: Simon Pieman on Friday, September 22, 2006, 18:15:47 Quote from: "Spencer_White" All they care about is a few homes when the stadium is redeveloped. And everyone buys it. Why? Um, who's going to pay for the stadium then? Title: This board is poison to our club Post by: RobertT on Friday, September 22, 2006, 18:17:51 Property development. I think you can get the original proposal the club put in for the CG development from the Council - it's a document available under the Freedom of Information Act.
Using such a method to fund it is fair enough I think mind, just the actual proposal was a bit shit. Title: This board is poison to our club Post by: Simon Pieman on Friday, September 22, 2006, 18:21:09 Quote from: "RobertT" Property development. I think you can get the original proposal the club put in for the CG development from the Council - it's a document available under the Freedom of Information Act. Using such a method to fund it is fair enough I think mind, just the actual proposal was a bit shit. In the words of the annoying shit Andy from Little Britain "yeah I know" Title: Re: This board is poison to our club Post by: Spencer_White on Friday, September 22, 2006, 18:37:11 Quote from: "simon pieman" Quote from: "Spencer_White" All they care about is a few homes when the stadium is redeveloped. And everyone buys it. Why? Um, who's going to pay for the stadium then? My question would be do we actually need one? At what price is the 'newbury holy grail' of a new stadium? And seeing as the current board have made absolutely no movements on the subject for 12 months, and their previous attempts have been so half hearted and absolutely pathetic (excepting Shaw) wouldnt it be better if we moved on and concentrated on what really matters? THE FUCKING FOOTBALL! Old stadiums dont excuse incompetance. Title: This board is poison to our club Post by: STFC Bart on Friday, September 22, 2006, 18:41:15 Still cannot believe that some people on here are defending the board- beggars belief
Title: Re: This board is poison to our club Post by: Simon Pieman on Friday, September 22, 2006, 18:45:14 Quote from: "Spencer_White" Quote from: "simon pieman" Quote from: "Spencer_White" All they care about is a few homes when the stadium is redeveloped. And everyone buys it. Why? Um, who's going to pay for the stadium then? My question would be do we actually need one? At what price is the 'newbury holy grail' of a new stadium? And seeing as the current board have made absolutely no movements on the subject for 12 months, and their previous attempts have been so half hearted and absolutely pathetic (excepting Shaw) wouldnt it be better if we moved on and concentrated on what really matters? THE FUCKING FOOTBALL! Old stadiums dont excuse incompetance. Ah ok then that's fair enough. I think the benefits of a new stadium have been well documented. It's probably not a necessity for the club to survive, but for us to be a decent team and survive it will be. Title: This board is poison to our club Post by: Spencer_White on Friday, September 22, 2006, 18:54:46 How decent do we have to be? Are we aiming at Champions league or what? Seems to me we are risking it all for a pipe dream, and until then Wills has said he isnt interested in investing in the team.
To my mind the Dunwoody lot is a nightmare for the STFC common fan. They are not pulling in the same direction, they raise ticket prices and bring in bad players on short contracts. Weve gotten ahead of ourselves. A new stadium is a necessity for the newbury lot to make money, but what necessity is it for us, the fans? Its overrated. Owning the ground isnt overrated. But does anyone actually think we'd just get given it by whatever estate agent/money man had built it for us? Course not. By the way the treat the club I think we might end up with an even worse landlord than we have at the moment. Title: This board is poison to our club Post by: Simon Pieman on Friday, September 22, 2006, 19:05:55 The impression I got is that the property developers make money by getting the land cheaper than normal. I don't know if that is fact though.
Title: This board is poison to our club Post by: TalkTalk on Friday, September 22, 2006, 19:14:43 Quote from: "simon pieman" The impression I got is that the property developers make money by getting the land cheaper than normal. I don't know if that is fact though. No, it isn't. Property developers make money by adding value to the materials they build with. As in: New CG Hotel & Conference Centre costs £xxxM to design and build New CG Hotel & Conference Centre sells at £xxxM + y% In a CG redevelopment the land would be leased and the new facilities would be leasehold, so the land doesn't come into it anyway. In the case of the Front Garden or Shaw then the cost of buying the land would be be part of the development cost. All this assumes that the market can afford to pay the marked up price for a new property (if whatever form - houses, offices, hotels etc). Title: This board is poison to our club Post by: Simon Pieman on Friday, September 22, 2006, 19:23:20 Ah ok. I just put 2+2 together and thought cheaper land = more profit to build stadium with
Title: This board is poison to our club Post by: sonic youth on Friday, September 22, 2006, 23:28:16 Quote from: "DV85" if we were to protest, it should be as one....l&p, supporters club, trust...and regular fans.... if anything it should be trust branded, they are certainly more involved within the club than the other lot... i assume by "the other lot" you're not referring to the supporters club, otherwise you're seriously wide of the mark. otherwise i agree. Title: This board is poison to our club Post by: mr ian on Friday, September 22, 2006, 23:52:53 willie carson=Dennis has a contract and we do not want him to leave. But if a Premiership or Championship club comes along, let's hear what they have to say."
cunt!yes,ambition,no! Title: This board is poison to our club Post by: STFC Bart on Saturday, September 23, 2006, 20:23:37 This board know absolutely nothing about football, and now they are on the verge of sackin Devlin/Sullivan (forcing them to walk)
It is blatantly obvious that the reason power left was because of tenion- mainly caused by Diamandis who desperately wants to hold in there to make some money from SSW should the new ground get the go ahead These are facts my friends. He is a non-dirctor, totally unaccountable but yet he is makng some shocking decisions daily on a subject he knows nothing about. Losing Devlin will be an absolute disaster. No WAY in this world will Wise work under the remining board members, of course it will be all hushed up/theblame diverted away from Diamandis as usual Title: This board is poison to our club Post by: yeo on Saturday, September 23, 2006, 20:27:48 Bart Im almost looking forward to wednesdays meeting to see you spout all this in real life :D
You are very repetitive Title: This board is poison to our club Post by: STFC Bart on Saturday, September 23, 2006, 20:32:26 Yeovil are you not bothred what this man is doing to your football club?
Title: This board is poison to our club Post by: yeo on Saturday, September 23, 2006, 20:39:29 Of course but I dont feel the need to keep saying the same things over and over again.You carry on Barty boy it amuses me.Ive invented a new game every time you repeat yourself I drink a shot of Vodka.Needless to say im hammered 8)
Title: This board is poison to our club Post by: TalkTalk on Saturday, September 23, 2006, 21:59:57 Quote from: "Yeovil Red" Of course but I dont feel the need to keep saying the same things over and over again.You carry on Barty boy it amuses me.Ive invented a new game every time you repeat yourself I drink a shot of Vodka.Needless to say im hammered 8) How's it going, Yeovil? You must be under the table and unable to type by now... Title: This board is poison to our club Post by: pauld on Saturday, September 23, 2006, 22:43:14 Quote from: "Yeovil Red" Ive invented a new game every time you repeat yourself I drink a shot of Vodka.Needless to say im hammered 8) Will you promise to come along and do that at the meeting on Wed if I bring a big bottle of vodka? Would liven things up no end - by the end of the evening you could be a substitute derek :D Title: This board is poison to our club Post by: RobertT on Saturday, September 23, 2006, 22:46:32 Quote from: "pauld" Quote from: "Yeovil Red" Ive invented a new game every time you repeat yourself I drink a shot of Vodka.Needless to say im hammered 8) Will you promise to come along and do that at the meeting on Wed if I bring a big bottle of vodka? Would liven things up no end - by the end of the evening you could be a substitute derek :D It's an open meeting that you've stuck a PR in the Adver about, I reckon Derek will come on horseback. Title: This board is poison to our club Post by: pauld on Saturday, September 23, 2006, 22:47:55 Quote from: "RobertT" I reckon Derek will come on horseback. Appaently a lot of people do - something to do with the rubbing on th saddle .... Title: This board is poison to our club Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, September 24, 2006, 09:51:15 Does that mean Yeovil will be as well?
He is a bit of a fanny :wink: :o |