Title: The greek Post by: STFC Bart on Sunday, September 17, 2006, 09:19:03 Anyone know if he is behind the latest troubles in the boardroom
Title: The greek Post by: Bennett on Sunday, September 17, 2006, 09:31:12 yes
Title: The greek Post by: sonic youth on Sunday, September 17, 2006, 09:36:05 no
Title: The greek Post by: Sussex on Sunday, September 17, 2006, 09:36:41 Maybe
Title: The greek Post by: Samdy Gray on Sunday, September 17, 2006, 10:55:01 I don't know
Title: The greek Post by: mr ian on Sunday, September 17, 2006, 10:56:09 perhaps
Title: The greek Post by: flammableBen on Sunday, September 17, 2006, 10:57:12 all of the above
Title: The greek Post by: Stef Troll on Sunday, September 17, 2006, 11:07:00 Potentially
Title: The greek Post by: STFC Bart on Sunday, September 17, 2006, 11:10:09 Lets face it he always is, the sooner he has gone the better
Time for the Wills family to sell up to people who know what they are doing. Last seasons shambles proves that their administration dont Title: The greek Post by: Bennett on Sunday, September 17, 2006, 11:41:50 no
Title: The greek Post by: Sussex on Sunday, September 17, 2006, 11:42:00 Educate yourself before spout crap Bart:
Quote The Statement The following is a statement from Mike Diamandis and provides a brief history of his direct involvement with Swindon Town Football Club: ”I have been involved with the Club for more than 15 years as a supplier, however I became seriously involved about 5 years’ ago when Sir Seton Wills and Cliff Puffett asked me to help when things had gone seriously wrong. I supplied the management and financial support on a day-to-day basis with backing of the Wills family. At that time some of my advice was not heeded and control of the Club was handed to a consortium which you all know about. It is well documented that a new consortium made up of Willy Carson, James Wills, Cliff Puffett and myself (represented by Bob Holt) was formed. This consortium fought for about a year to remove the incumbent consortium, which is also well documented. Upon taking control of the club we discovered that the club’s balance sheet had now deteriorated to minus £14 million. The club was within two hours of going into liquidation. With the help of Hacker Young we were able to rescue the club by raising £1.5 million through the Wills family and a further £1.5 million through St Modwen. At about that time you would have read in the Adver that at the time the Club had a debenture over it and without it’s removal the Club would have been destroyed. With the help of the Wills family and St. Modwen we were able to remove this threat. I found myself in the unenviable position of being responsible for putting the necessary resources together to ensure the club’s survival. The Wills family would not have continued to support the Club had I not been involved. Since then every year through one method or another, I have been able to raise approximately £750,000 a year to keep the Club going. During this period before Bill Power joined, more than £5.5 million was raised through my leadership, through my own company, with the dynamic share coming from the Wills’ family and St. Modwen. Through successful negotiation we have been able to negotiate with all the creditors so that for the first time in the next month or so our balance sheet will go from a minus to a plus £3-4 million and, with Bill Powers total monies raised will top £6.5 million. The Club will still however require the average gate to rise for it to be safe and in the long term we do require a new stadium to ensure the future stability of the Club. In 2000 Swindon Town FC employed 98 staff and was loosing over £2m a year. I brought in a professional manager, Bob Holt, who then carried out the cost cutting plan I had developed with the then Finance Director, reducing the staff on the payroll from 98 people to 61, and eventually to the 48 it is today. At this time brought in Mike Sullivan as Marketing Manager (someone who had worked for me in the past). I knew of Mark Devlin as a customer of my company; he was a Commercial Manager at QPR. Mark Devlin then joined us as Chief Executive and as a result of his football knowledge and his media skills we were able to steer the Club successfully for the period that he was with us. When the opportunity came for him to return to QPR as Chief Executive as you all know he left STFC. Last autumn as soon as I heard that he had left QPR I telephoned him and asked him to return as we all know we had dropped the ball when it came to PR. After his return we eventually had a discussion that lead to me meeting Bill Power. I believed that with Bill Power’s football knowledge and Mark Devlin skills, they would create a great management team for our Club and after further negotiations it was agreed that Bill Power would invest in the club and join the Board. That investment is still to be completed. We are hoping it will be complete in the next few days. Recently many discussions took place amongst the Board regarding the club’s manager. Mark Devlin had the idea that Dennis Wise would be an excellent candidate. I had met Dennis Wise recently at Chelsea when I was a guest of a mutual friend, who is also Dennis Wise’s agent. I met with Dennis Wise again in a London hotel the following day and we struck a deal. I am absolutely delighted that he is joining us with Gus and his team and so is Mark Devlin and Bill Power. For those of you who did listen to the press conference you would have heard Dennis Wise confirm that he was persuaded by a nice man, called Michael, who had talked him into joining. That Michael was me! During my working life I have employed many people and unfortunately once or twice these relationships have failed. Certain people who have been associated with me in the past are using your forum which is for the specific purpose of discussing football matters as a method of attacking me. I cannot say I am too pleased about all these attacks. I have now reached a point whether these personal attacks just have to stop to protect myself and my family. For those of you that are interested I am married with a young child and have two grown up children. I have been an employer for more than 25 years and within my various companies there are over 200 employees whose welfare is replied upon and obtained on my ability to move amongst the business community in an open manner. I have known the Wills family for the last five years and I have come to think of the family and of Willie Carson as my friends. I have worked previously with the ex-board, in particular Cliff Puffett and Mike Spearman, to improve the Club’s position. All of the current Board, and everyone involved with the Club knows me, speaks with me and deals with me in normal manner. I speak to Bill Power everyday and we are all looking forward to the footballing future of our club. I am often persuaded to take a more public role. However, I am not the best public speaker, in-fact I get tongue tied the minute a microphone gets thrust in my face, and although I have tried to overcome this I am not a natural, and I have always felt that there are other people who are better spokesmen for the club than me. My preferred choice is that on a Saturday I go to the game with my family, sit in the seats that I’ve always sat in, and watch a game of football. I am not interested in a high profile life and I hope you all enjoy Mark Devlin as the public face and spearhead of our Football Club. The Adver has removed various posts because they have been of a libellous and non-proven nature. My lawyers have written to the Adver and explained how we understand the legal position with regards to chat rooms. Once the Adver have been notified by the person who is being libelled they have no alternative but to respond and remove the postings otherwise they will be knowingly publishing a libel. This is the only statement I am ever going to make on this subject, thank you for taking the time to read it." Mike Diamandis 26.5.06 Lots of love Sussex Title: The greek Post by: STFC Bart on Sunday, September 17, 2006, 12:02:44 Lose Power and Devlin and watch us quickly become a shambles again
You are very easy taken in Title: The greek Post by: sonic youth on Sunday, September 17, 2006, 12:04:48 you sound remarkably like lifetime red.
Title: The greek Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, September 17, 2006, 12:42:26 Quote from: "STFC Bart" Lose Power and Devlin and watch us quickly become a shambles again You are very easy taken in Where did it say we were losing them? Title: The greek Post by: Sussex on Sunday, September 17, 2006, 12:56:40 I give up.
Title: The greek Post by: reeves4england on Sunday, September 17, 2006, 13:08:37 Quote from: "Sussex Red" I give up. Don't worry. I understand you Sussex :kisskiss:Title: The greek Post by: Spencer_White on Sunday, September 17, 2006, 14:18:49 Quote from: "Sussex Red" I give up. I would matey. Football fans shouldnt worry about this sort of stuff. We dont have any control. We dont have any information. And no disrespect STFC Bart, if you cant even read that statement what hope have you possibly got of understanding any STFC boardroom manouvres. Dont bother yourself. I dont like unnacountable shady figures but these people are rich men. Fact is, that if we were a fan run club we would be exactly the same as Stockport (who are Trust run), sliding into the conference. They are desperately shit, and they have absolutely no way to stop themselves from being shit. They will be shit until someone with some money takes them over. The club has got its arse in gear. Probably more than any other in the 3rd division. And for that im happy. Dont worry about it, its always been this way. Title: The greek Post by: DV on Sunday, September 17, 2006, 16:39:01 Brentford are trust run and are far from sliding into the conference.
Lets be honest 'Mikey the greek' has always kept himself to himself, so how Bart can comment on what he does behind the scenes I dont know.... Title: The greek Post by: STFC Bart on Sunday, September 17, 2006, 17:15:28 Whyis he here then?
Suppose if we end up with Gray back as CE, a crap manager etc you will be happy We will not progress until we get new owners, and no i am not lifetime red Title: The greek Post by: Tails on Sunday, September 17, 2006, 17:58:39 Quote from: "STFC Bart" Whyis he here then? Suppose if we end up with Gray back as CE, a crap manager etc you will be happy We will not progress until we get new owners, and no i am not lifetime red And that will all be Diamindis fault won't it. You know nothing. Title: The greek Post by: Mexicano Rojo on Sunday, September 17, 2006, 18:32:29 i met mike yesterday and had a good chat with him, seemed a top bloke who loved his football and his kid was ace all decked out in our new kit, there is definately positive vibes coming from the boardroom compared to last year.
by the way mike sullivan was back yesterday and as he entered the vip lounge he got a standing ovation, he look quite embarrassed. we were going to sing the dambusters theme :D Title: The greek Post by: STFC Bart on Sunday, September 17, 2006, 20:02:24 Do not be fooled.
If we lose Bill Power, it will be entirely the fault of the hapless administration of which Mr D is the head. Brady may have been out for one thing only, but Power is a genuine guy, if we lose him then the fans will want answers and they had better be good Title: The greek Post by: yeo on Sunday, September 17, 2006, 20:09:31 Yes Bart :mrgreen:
Title: The greek Post by: sonic youth on Sunday, September 17, 2006, 20:35:45 Quote from: "STFC Bart" Suppose if we end up with Gray back as CE, a crap manager etc you will be happy i'd be thrilled. Title: The greek Post by: Spencer_White on Sunday, September 17, 2006, 20:37:57 Quote from: "sonic youth" Quote from: "STFC Bart" Suppose if we end up with Gray back as CE, a crap manager etc you will be happy i'd be thrilled. Is it time to get rid of Bart yet? :roll: Title: The greek Post by: mr ian on Monday, September 18, 2006, 00:07:27 perhaps
Title: The greek Post by: deltaincline on Monday, September 18, 2006, 00:30:33 Quote from: "Tails" Quote from: "STFC Bart" Whyis he here then? Suppose if we end up with Gray back as CE, a crap manager etc you will be happy We will not progress until we get new owners, and no i am not lifetime red And that will all be Diamindis fault won't it. You know nothing. And you, on the other hand know what, exactly?? I can accept someone posting factual information or even bullshit to shore up an argument, but to flame someone and then not offer up an alternative argument is just plain fucking stupid. The greek bloke is a slimeball and is only sniffing around to make a few quid. End of. Disagree if you like, but don't act like a fucking pleb. Title: The greek Post by: yeo on Monday, September 18, 2006, 00:36:27 :D Good first post.
Title: The greek Post by: magicroundabout on Monday, September 18, 2006, 07:23:34 Quote from: "Yeovil Red" :D Good first post. i agree. straight in there with the size 14's welcome Title: The greek Post by: McLovin on Monday, September 18, 2006, 08:15:18 I don't care if someone is here to make money. As long as we benefit too, fairs fair. At the end of the day, only the stupidly rich, or stupidly loyal run a football club with no thought for profit.
Title: The greek Post by: pauld on Monday, September 18, 2006, 10:14:16 Quote from: "Spencer_White" Fact is, that if we were a fan run club we would be exactly the same as Stockport (who are Trust run), sliding into the conference. Or we might be like Brentford, or Lincoln who are both doing pretty well. There's crap clubs run by fans and far more crap clubs run by rich, supposedly successful, businessmen - there's no guaranteed template for success, but fan-run clubs tend to be less prone to wild over-spending or shady shenannigans. Stockport's problem is they are a small side in an area dominated by Premiership sides, that won't change no matter who runs Stockport. What the Trust at Stockport have managed to do is stop them sliding out of existence, which I think most County fans would agree was more of an imperative. PS Barcelon are owned by their fans - they seem to do OK Title: The greek Post by: pauld on Monday, September 18, 2006, 10:20:40 Quote from: "Spencer_White" Quote from: "sonic youth" Quote from: "STFC Bart" Suppose if we end up with Gray back as CE, a crap manager etc you will be happy i'd be thrilled. Is it time to get rid of Bart yet? :roll: I'd give him till Christmas, but if results don't improve by then I think we should have a Bart Out campaign :D Title: The greek Post by: deltaincline on Monday, September 18, 2006, 23:21:54 Quote from: "pauld" Quote from: "Spencer_White" Fact is, that if we were a fan run club we would be exactly the same as Stockport (who are Trust run), sliding into the conference. Or we might be like Brentford, or Lincoln who are both doing pretty well. There's crap clubs run by fans and far more crap clubs run by rich, supposedly successful, businessmen - there's no guaranteed template for success, but fan-run clubs tend to be less prone to wild over-spending or shady shenannigans. Stockport's problem is they are a small side in an area dominated by Premiership sides, that won't change no matter who runs Stockport. What the Trust at Stockport have managed to do is stop them sliding out of existence, which I think most County fans would agree was more of an imperative. PS Barcelon are owned by their fans - they seem to do OK That post is fair I think. I would rather see stfc be run by the trust supporters club than see us possibly go out of business under the misguidance of an allegedly dodgy Greek businessman, who appears to have Seaton Wills and his extraordinarily gullible family members tucked away safely in his greasy arse pocket. Time for a revolution some might say! Title: The greek Post by: DV on Tuesday, September 19, 2006, 16:30:10 Quote from: "deltaincline" Quote from: "Tails" Quote from: "STFC Bart" Whyis he here then? Suppose if we end up with Gray back as CE, a crap manager etc you will be happy We will not progress until we get new owners, and no i am not lifetime red And that will all be Diamindis fault won't it. You know nothing. And you, on the other hand know what, exactly?? I can accept someone posting factual information or even bullshit to shore up an argument, but to flame someone and then not offer up an alternative argument is just plain fucking stupid. The greek bloke is a slimeball and is only sniffing around to make a few quid. End of. Disagree if you like, but don't act like a fucking pleb. Tails probably has a much better idea of what goes on in the board room at STFC that alot of other people do..... Title: The greek Post by: Boeta on Tuesday, September 19, 2006, 17:52:59 diamandis has always made sure sir seton has given with one hand (money) but taken with the other (mismanagement) in order to keep stfc dependent on diamandis in order for him to make money. i know this is how the old 'new' board felt and now that they power with some money to back them up i would guess they are trying to get ease sir seton out the club so it can move forward.
problem is does power have the money to buy sir seton out? also, how did power make his money (irrelevent i know but am just interested)? Title: The greek Post by: Samdy Gray on Tuesday, September 19, 2006, 17:54:48 Quote from: "Boeta" how did power make his money (irrelevent i know but am just interested)? Telecommunications business |