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Title: results day
Post by: sonic youth on Wednesday, August 16, 2006, 19:55:33
good luck to anyone getting their exam results tomorrow, although i think it's just me and dex.

fingers crossed :thumbs:


Title: results day
Post by: Sade on Wednesday, August 16, 2006, 20:00:15
Good luck to everyone! My fingers are crossed for you :D


Title: results day
Post by: Ralphy on Wednesday, August 16, 2006, 20:03:24
My sister gets her A level results tomorrow.

She's very clever though so i know she'll do well.


Title: results day
Post by: hansgruber on Wednesday, August 16, 2006, 21:01:16
Fucking hell. Must have been 8 years ago I got my results.


Title: results day
Post by: Sussex on Wednesday, August 16, 2006, 21:08:06
Quote from: "hansgruber"
Fucking hell. Must have been 8 years ago I got my results.


Think yourself lucky, 14 for me  :(


Title: results day
Post by: hansgruber on Wednesday, August 16, 2006, 21:08:47
course all the exams were much harder back then


Title: results day
Post by: Sussex on Wednesday, August 16, 2006, 21:11:12
Obviously. Kids these days don't know how lucky they are.


Title: results day
Post by: hansgruber on Wednesday, August 16, 2006, 21:12:01
I expect they wouldn't even know what a log table and a slide rule was


Title: results day
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, August 16, 2006, 21:13:39
Mine were so far back, it was a different century.....my young un got his today, he passed the computing course he'd been doing, although doesn't seem to know the name of what he's been studying these last 2 years, but its worth 3 A levlels in the points system.


Title: results day
Post by: yeo on Wednesday, August 16, 2006, 21:13:52
Ive never had a results day.

I think I will pretend mines tomorrow..I will share in Youths results.


Title: results day
Post by: hansgruber on Wednesday, August 16, 2006, 21:15:03
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I will share in Youths results


Do you really want 3 'D's?  :fishing:


Title: results day
Post by: Sussex on Wednesday, August 16, 2006, 21:15:51
Bunsen burners are probably banned these days for health and safety reasons.

(hours of fun, especially when you don't light the gas)


Title: results day
Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, August 16, 2006, 21:20:05
Quote from: "hansgruber"
I expect they wouldn't even know what a log table and a slide rule was


I've never used a log table, use a calculator these days  :wink:

I've used annuity tables and the like though. Exams are rediculous in this day and age, they don't need to have different qualifications (like diplomas) but need to simply make the syllabus harder. That's why there's top up fees - so many people going to uni for mickey mouse courses.


Title: results day
Post by: STFCBird on Wednesday, August 16, 2006, 21:21:36
Good luck Sonic and Blackboy


Title: results day
Post by: hansgruber on Wednesday, August 16, 2006, 21:22:33
Yeah, good luck guys!


Title: Re: results day
Post by: STFC_Chris on Wednesday, August 16, 2006, 21:26:50
Quote from: "sonic youth"
although i think it's just me and dex.

Make that three, will be getting mine tomorrow too.

Are you off to Uni or bumming around at home for a few more years? I'm going for the latter for as long as I can get away with. No doubt the job hunt will begin in the next few weeks. :roll:


Title: results day
Post by: hansgruber on Wednesday, August 16, 2006, 21:28:18
There'll be no bumming around here young man.


Title: results day
Post by: yeo on Wednesday, August 16, 2006, 21:42:20
Oh I dunno...


Title: results day
Post by: STFCBird on Wednesday, August 16, 2006, 21:51:11
you haven't turned into one of them bum bombers have you yeovil?


Title: results day
Post by: yeo on Wednesday, August 16, 2006, 22:02:35
Reg turned me.


Title: results day
Post by: STFCBird on Wednesday, August 16, 2006, 22:05:27
:shock:  But you blew me a kiss saturday..... take it back gaylord  :wink:


Title: results day
Post by: sonic youth on Wednesday, August 16, 2006, 22:10:25
Quote from: "hansgruber"
Quote

I will share in Youths results


Do you really want 3 'D's?  :fishing:


i'd be fortunate to get a D, if i scrape a pass that lets me stay on for another year then i'm happy enough.


Title: results day
Post by: yeo on Wednesday, August 16, 2006, 22:12:28
we will get a pass ,im sure of it.


Title: results day
Post by: Amir on Wednesday, August 16, 2006, 22:45:24
Good luck Chris, Dex, Sonic and Yeovil :smile1:


Title: results day
Post by: stfc_carver on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 08:33:03
i get results today, although i'll be lucky to get anythin more than 3 U's :D


Title: results day
Post by: Johno on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 08:36:53
i get mine in 2 hours....i miss the start of the cricket for it, how inconsiderate!


Title: results day
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 08:49:37
Quote from: "Johno"
i get mine in 2 hours....i miss the start of the cricket for it, how inconsiderate!


 Don't worry Johno it'll be raining......the  8)  thing to do, is to not bother getting them until everyone else has, because you regard watching cricket as more important or can't be arsed to get up.


Title: results day
Post by: Johno on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 08:52:04
well im up now, i will go and get them. Is it raining at the oval? oh great. well, won't rush back then.


Title: results day
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 09:07:12
Quote from: "Johno"
well im up now, i will go and get them. Is it raining at the oval? oh great. well, won't rush back then.


 Well its wet in Swindonia....and London tends to get what we've just had...light not good enough here either.


Title: results day
Post by: strooood on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 09:19:20
tell you what i've never been this nervous not even before my driving test.

i need ABC for cardiff, got my C ages ago so just after AB today. i'll let all you cunts know so you can ridicule me when i fail miserably  :(


Title: results day
Post by: Scot Munroe on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 09:28:39
i get my 2nd year AVCE ICT Results. Totally bricking it.


Title: results day
Post by: Fred Elliot on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 09:31:22
Quote from: "SwindonUltra"
i get my 2nd year AVCE ICT Results. Totally bricking it.


You'll be fine .............. then you can get a fucking job and buy me loads of beer ! :beers:


Title: results day
Post by: Scot Munroe on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 09:32:47
Quote from: "Fred Elliot"
Quote from: "SwindonUltra"
i get my 2nd year AVCE ICT Results. Totally bricking it.


You'll be fine .............. then you can get a fucking job and buy me loads of beer ! :beers:


why would i do that andy. did you get the email i sent.


Title: results day
Post by: spacey on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 09:33:23
I'll get my insults in early..

If you fail you're a thick useless macdonalds employed twat

If you pass you're a half mast trousered, biros in your shirt pocket, speccy,macdonalds employed, nerdlinger tosspot.


Title: results day
Post by: Luci on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 09:33:40
Quote from: "SwindonUltra"
i get my 2nd year AVCE ICT Results. Totally bricking it.


I did AVCE but not ICT.

Its ace as your 2nd year points can up your first year marks etc!

I'm sure you will be fine.....Best of luck.


Title: results day
Post by: Fred Elliot on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 09:34:27
Quote from: "SwindonUltra"
Quote from: "Fred Elliot"
Quote from: "SwindonUltra"
i get my 2nd year AVCE ICT Results. Totally bricking it.


You'll be fine .............. then you can get a fucking job and buy me loads of beer ! :beers:


why would i do that andy. did you get the email i sent.


didnt get in till late so have not checked yet mate


Title: results day
Post by: Piemonte on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 09:36:16
unless you have a highly specific career path in mind then the results you get are largley irrelevant.

most employers dont really give a shit, and would take someone with experience over qualifications every time.


Title: results day
Post by: strooood on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 09:37:40
i need them to get into uni you fat freak.


Title: results day
Post by: Tails on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 09:45:23
Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"
Mine were so far back, it was a different century.....my young un got his today, he passed the computing course he'd been doing, although doesn't seem to know the name of what he's been studying these last 2 years, but its worth 3 A levlels in the points system.


That would be a BTEC National Diploma then? I do one of them, so no results for me until next year.


Title: results day
Post by: hansgruber on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 09:46:20
Quote

most employers dont really give a shit, and would take someone with experience over qualifications every time


Can be true, but you need something to get you in the door to get the experience in the first place!


Title: results day
Post by: Piemonte on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 09:56:30
Quote from: "strooood"
i need them to get into uni you fat freak.


So?

If you dont get the grades you need to go to one uni, you go to another one instead. meeeeh.

Same point will apply. In a few years no-one will care what uni you went to - or to an extent what course you did, unless like i said you have something specific in mind for a career.


Title: results day
Post by: Piemonte on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 09:59:57
Quote from: "hansgruber"
Quote

most employers dont really give a shit, and would take someone with experience over qualifications every time


Can be true, but you need something to get you in the door to get the experience in the first place!


that can be true I guess, but depends on the industry.

Anyway the point I was trying to make was actually a positive one for those getting their grades.

If you fail or do worse than expected its really not the end of the world. If you are reasonably intelligent and are prepared to work reasonably hard then chances are you'll do alright in life, qualifications or no qualifications.


Title: results day
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 10:02:24
Quote from: "Tails"
Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"
Mine were so far back, it was a different century.....my young un got his today, he passed the computing course he'd been doing, although doesn't seem to know the name of what he's been studying these last 2 years, but its worth 3 A levlels in the points system.


That would be a BTEC National Diploma then? I do one of them, so no results for me until next year.


 That would be the one....its full title is something like BTEC National Diploma for IT Practitioners.


Title: results day
Post by: juddie on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 10:27:31
Alevels - those were the days, 9 years ago for me.


Title: results day
Post by: Doore on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 10:50:15
Good luck to all involved today, go and get mightily bladdered.  Its what everyone should do on a results day.  I remember doing so.  Well, I remember the first couple of hours, anyway.


Title: results day
Post by: STFCBird on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 10:53:45
Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"
Quote from: "Tails"
Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"
Mine were so far back, it was a different century.....my young un got his today, he passed the computing course he'd been doing, although doesn't seem to know the name of what he's been studying these last 2 years, but its worth 3 A levlels in the points system.


That would be a BTEC National Diploma then? I do one of them, so no results for me until next year.


 That would be the one....its full title is something like BTEC National Diploma for IT Practitioners.


That is what I have, it was the advanced one, equivalent to 3 A levels grade A- C.  :shock:  I had brains once


Title: results day
Post by: hansgruber on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 11:05:06
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equivalent to 3 A levels grade A- C


There's quite a big difference between an A and a C though surely?  :?


Title: results day
Post by: STFCBird on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 11:06:43
No coz you get either a Distinction = A, Merit = B and Pass = C


Title: results day
Post by: hansgruber on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 11:10:20
BTEC equivalent to 3 A's? Seriously?


Title: results day
Post by: Scot Munroe on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 11:12:43
well i passed.


Title: results day
Post by: hansgruber on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 11:17:43
good man.


Title: results day
Post by: strooood on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 11:18:56
got 2 Bs.

no cardiff for me. brighton's my second choice so i guess 'll be the newest SCR...

i need to drink alot, i want to have a fight.


Title: results day
Post by: Bogus Dave on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 11:19:06
well done.


Title: results day
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 11:20:19
Quote from: "Piemonte"
Quote from: "strooood"
i need them to get into uni you fat freak.


So?

If you dont get the grades you need to go to one uni, you go to another one instead. meeeeh.

Same point will apply. In a few years no-one will care what uni you went to - or to an extent what course you did, unless like i said you have something specific in mind for a career.


I think you couldn't be further from the truth. As more go to uni then the uni you go to will matter more. The course can be irrelevant most of the time though, even with a specific career. In fact it was pointed out to me when I started my course that choosing Accounting & Finance to go into an accounting career was a bit of a silly option. If I got a 2:2 it would have been very difficult to get a job in accounting. Whereas if I did an easier course like management science I could have still gone into accounting. Luckily I got my 2:1.

Good luck to those getting their results and well done to those who already have.


Title: results day
Post by: McLovin on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 11:20:26
2 B's is respectable. You'll have a bloody good time down there, bit further to come for Town games though...

Where will all the disheartened 18 year old girls be going tonight to drown their sorrows?


Title: results day
Post by: Sussex on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 11:20:41
Good work lads.


Title: results day
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 11:22:19
Quote from: "strooood"
got 2 Bs.

no cardiff for me. brighton's my second choice so i guess 'll be the newest SCR...

i need to drink alot, i want to have a fight.


You should still ring Cardiff to make sure, sometimes they'll still want you. At least you can fight Walpus if you see him in Brighton though  :D


Title: results day
Post by: hansgruber on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 11:22:48
Can always give Cardiff a ring and see if they'll accept you anyway. Worked for me with Warwick - I needed AAB and a 2 in a STEP paper and only got AAAB and a 3 in the STEP paper, but they let me in anyway.

Glad they did cos it's a much better uni than my second choice, Bath.


Title: results day
Post by: Doore on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 11:25:29
Cardiff is a good uni, I'm quite sad to be leaving soon.  A few of my mates here got in despite not getting their grades, they have a reputation for being quite flexible, so I reckon its definitely worth giving them a call.


Title: results day
Post by: strooood on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 11:26:13
they told me to fuck off. no blacks allowed.


Title: results day
Post by: hansgruber on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 11:26:52
:soapy tit wank:


Title: results day
Post by: Doore on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 11:27:01
Plus, if you managed to get to cardiff, you could buy me a beer, or judging from my popularity on this site, smack me round the head.  Sonic would love you for it!


Title: results day
Post by: land_of_bo on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 11:28:53
Quote from: "Sussex Red"
Bunsen burners are probably banned these days for health and safety reasons.

(hours of fun, especially when you don't light the gas)


Or when you attach the hose to a water tap instead  :D


Title: results day
Post by: Scot Munroe on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 11:29:20
Quote from: "Doore"
Cardiff is a good uni, I'm quite sad to be leaving soon.  A few of my mates here got in despite not getting their grades, they have a reputation for being quite flexible, so I reckon its definitely worth giving them a call.


yeah it is a good uni. i worked with someone last year while the ashes was on and he said it was a very good uni. My mate is at brimingham uni and is loving it.


Title: results day
Post by: Supercake2 on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 11:29:33
i had a bit of a stinker  1 A Level D in and E... but was 1 mark!! off a D and a D in As Sport. the magic of resits may help me  :D .

3rd Year for me to bum my way through another year 8)  doing maths and finishing PE.

good luck or well done to everyone else though.


Title: results day
Post by: Piemonte on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 11:33:22
Quote from: "simon pieman"
Quote from: "Piemonte"
Quote from: "strooood"
i need them to get into uni you fat freak.


So?

If you dont get the grades you need to go to one uni, you go to another one instead. meeeeh.

Same point will apply. In a few years no-one will care what uni you went to - or to an extent what course you did, unless like i said you have something specific in mind for a career.


I think you couldn't be further from the truth. As more go to uni then the uni you go to will matter more. The course can be irrelevant most of the time though, even with a specific career. In fact it was pointed out to me when I started my course that choosing Accounting & Finance to go into an accounting career was a bit of a silly option. If I got a 2:2 it would have been very difficult to get a job in accounting. Whereas if I did an easier course like management science I could have still gone into accounting. Luckily I got my 2:1.

Good luck to those getting their results and well done to those who already have.


As I've said all along, my comments depend on what you want to do for a career. Accounting is a specified profession with set qualifications that are required for career progression, (certified etc) so is different from many other jobs that dont require formal qualifcations to be gained to move up the ladder.

I'm speaking from my own experience, I didnt go to uni and it hasnt hurt my career at all currently. The only thing that did was pure lazyiness on my part after leaving college. Other peoples experiences may be different.

In a totally different point, I'm amazed you want to be an accountant Sipie - you seem to have a personality. I deal with them fairly regually and I dont think I've come across one with a personality yet. Its a stereotype, but its seems to be true.

Well done dex.


Title: results day
Post by: oxford_fan on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 11:36:45
agree with si pi - for the majority of decent jobs, a-levels matter a tiny bit, what uni you went to matters alot and the course barely matters at all. they're looking at the qualification nowadays, and proof that you can learn to a certain standard (in whatever subject).


Title: results day
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 11:38:03
Well I'll be doing auditing so you need good social skills. It's one of the youngest most vibrant professions around (unless severly small time old school accounting types). But it will be boring as fuck.

Your point about uni makes sense, but there isn't any sense in going to uni now unless you want to go into something specific or work in a certain field because it costs way too much. I wasn't going to go to uni but start work doing my AAT qualification and then move on up to ACA standard which is what I'll be doing shortly. The abysmal starting salary for the AAT trainee against 3 years of bumming around is what swayed me to go to uni though.


Title: results day
Post by: hansgruber on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 11:42:01
I fucking hate auditors :evil:

All they ask us is "Have you documented this?", "Where have you recorded that" etc. We could do absolutely anything, as long as it was documented properly.


Title: results day
Post by: strooood on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 11:44:41
can everyone stop saying how good cardiff is please. thanks  :smile1:


Title: results day
Post by: Fred Elliot on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 11:45:44
Quote from: "SwindonUltra"
well i passed.


Well done mate !!!!!!!

 :beers:  :beers:  :beers:  :thumbs:  :dance:


Title: results day
Post by: jim on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 11:46:28
What did DMR get - he's keeping quiet.

My daughter needed A B B to read English at Sheffield.  She got A A C (and one of the A's, in psychology, was done in a year) but they have rejected her.

Spoke to the admissions tutor - she advised that they dont operate a points system (AAC > ABB) so she suggested my daughter should have taken General Studies where most people are nailed on to get at least a B, and they would have accepted that!

Perverse!


Title: results day
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 11:46:55
Quote from: "hansgruber"
I fucking hate auditors :evil:

All they ask us is "Have you documented this?", "Where have you recorded that" etc. We could do absolutely anything, as long as it was documented properly.


It's a funny thing. The public want to be protected from Parmalat and Enron type scandals so standards and practicises get even more rigorous. As a consequence auditors have to be bigger cunts or they are more likely to end up in court.

The irony is that it's costing businesses more and it's debatable whether it offers any more protection against fraud. If people want to defraud a business and are clever about it, they won't get caught for a significant amount of time.


Title: results day
Post by: hansgruber on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 11:47:38
General Studies is a joke. They never used to accept that


Title: results day
Post by: oxford_fan on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 11:57:07
cardiff is shit because:

-its full of the welsh
-its quite a pikey city full of craig bellamys
-saturday nights are a no-go in the city centre unless you want a bottling
-the student area is purely students/the poor, and the poor welshies hate the students
-my mate had his vw golf keyed for being a student
-polish prostitutes for neighbours (although this could be a + for some) who play shit music
-not a blade of grass apart from in parks


Title: results day
Post by: Stef Troll on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 12:01:14
The best way to pass University is to simply look at old past papers.  Probably around 10-11 of the 16 papers i took at uni had simlar if not identical questions in this years paper to that of previous years. Also attend the class/workshops which the lecturers give.  Usually they give taks/problemsets - which also are identical to the questions which appear on the exam paper.

That leaves more time for  :beers:  :beers:  :beers:  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: results day
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 12:03:16
Or just go to Solent University (AKA Southampton Destitute). They'll pass anyone judging from the documentary a while back.


Title: results day
Post by: sonic youth on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 12:06:02
Quote from: "jim"
What did DMR get - he's keeping quiet.

My daughter needed A B B to read English at Sheffield.  She got A A C (and one of the A's, in psychology, was done in a year) but they have rejected her.

Spoke to the admissions tutor - she advised that they dont operate a points system (AAC > ABB) so she suggested my daughter should have taken General Studies where most people are nailed on to get at least a B, and they would have accepted that!

Perverse!


that's mental, can't see the logic in that at all. i thought the only uni's which didn't do the points thing were oxford and cambridge  :o

unlucky dex, brighton's probably nicer than cardiff though


Title: results day
Post by: Luci on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 12:06:22
Youth you got yours yet?


Title: results day
Post by: Piemonte on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 12:06:34
Quote from: "oxford_fan"
agree with si pi - for the majority of decent jobs, a-levels matter a tiny bit, what uni you went to matters alot and the course barely matters at all. they're looking at the qualification nowadays, and proof that you can learn to a certain standard (in whatever subject).


Its naive to think that outside of the obvious elite uni's that which uni you went to is really going to have any relevance to your job prospects in the long term

The gerneral public has no perception at all of the difference between 2 middle of the road universities, and I'm guessing a large number of employers will think that too.

People simply dont give a shit that X uni is ranked 15 places higher in the league tables than Y uni. youhave a dregree in XXx to 2:1 standard and thats that.

They are more interested in you as an individual and whether you are right for the job. I'd employ someone from an "inferior" uni who was very good in interviews every time.

The uni's want you to believe that their name will help, but in my experience, in the real world that is not the case.


Title: results day
Post by: Doore on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 12:10:39
Quote from: "oxford_fan"
cardiff is shit because:

-its full of the welsh
-its quite a pikey city full of craig bellamys
-saturday nights are a no-go in the city centre unless you want a bottling
-the student area is purely students/the poor, and the poor welshies hate the students
-my mate had his vw golf keyed for being a student
-polish prostitutes for neighbours (although this could be a + for some) who play shit music
-not a blade of grass apart from in parks


Well I love living in Cardiff.  There are loads of parks, plenty of room for a good kickabout.  The uni has the best Inter mural football league in the country, with thirty two teams in it.  Student area by definition in of course mostly populated by students.  Clubs are good if you know the good ones, try Clwb Ifor Bach and Metros.  City centre is like any other on Saturday night, Swindon isnt exactly lovely, and more to the point neither is oxford.


Title: results day
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 12:11:55
I think the point is if you go for a job which requires a degree then the difference between a 2:1 at Southampton and a 2:1 at solent is great. They have quotos to fill so they mark things easier.

But for a job which doesn't need a degree you're absolutely right Piemonte. My housemates couldn't get a job last year as they had 2:2s (they temped all year), that's the extent of the amount of people going to uni.


Title: results day
Post by: Stef Troll on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 12:17:05
Well the point of going to University (in my opinion), is to obtain a qualification which will probably land you up with a better chance of landing a decent and resonably high paid job with good prospects.


Title: results day
Post by: Ralphy on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 12:26:01
My sister got an A in ICT, B in Art, D in English.


Title: results day
Post by: oxford_fan on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 13:05:50
Quote from: "Doore"
Quote from: "oxford_fan"
cardiff is shit because:

-its full of the welsh
-its quite a pikey city full of craig bellamys
-saturday nights are a no-go in the city centre unless you want a bottling
-the student area is purely students/the poor, and the poor welshies hate the students
-my mate had his vw golf keyed for being a student
-polish prostitutes for neighbours (although this could be a + for some) who play shit music
-not a blade of grass apart from in parks


Well I love living in Cardiff.  There are loads of parks, plenty of room for a good kickabout.  The uni has the best Inter mural football league in the country, with thirty two teams in it.  Student area by definition in of course mostly populated by students.  Clubs are good if you know the good ones, try Clwb Ifor Bach and Metros.  City centre is like any other on Saturday night, Swindon isnt exactly lovely, and more to the point neither is oxford.
i know it has its good aspects mate, my 2 best mates are there, just trying to cheer dex up.


Title: results day
Post by: Doore on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 13:09:42
oops.   I missed that.  Its fucking raining in Cardiff, and has been since 1903.  Always dark.  Can't understand the locals.  No good beer.  I saw a shell suit the other day, someone was actually wearing it.  There are Cardiff City fans here.  The union has really big steps that take an age to get up.  The bar in the union is shit, and looks like ikea.  The kebabs are over priced and nasty.  Theft is high.  Halls of residence are shit holes.  It costs a fiver to cross the bridge if you drive.  The train station is horrible.  And most of all, I'm here, and I'm a cunt.


Title: results day
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 13:11:35
I think it's interesting that Cardiff has the first two letters that Calne does. So that makes it even shitter.


Title: results day
Post by: Ginginho on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 13:18:27
They both have the same first letter as coincidence  :shock:


Title: results day
Post by: oxford_fan on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 13:19:53
Quote from: "Piemonte"
Quote from: "oxford_fan"
agree with si pi - for the majority of decent jobs, a-levels matter a tiny bit, what uni you went to matters alot and the course barely matters at all. they're looking at the qualification nowadays, and proof that you can learn to a certain standard (in whatever subject).


Its naive to think that outside of the obvious elite uni's that which uni you went to is really going to have any relevance to your job prospects in the long term

The gerneral public has no perception at all of the difference between 2 middle of the road universities, and I'm guessing a large number of employers will think that too.

People simply dont give a shit that X uni is ranked 15 places higher in the league tables than Y uni. youhave a dregree in XXx to 2:1 standard and thats that.

They are more interested in you as an individual and whether you are right for the job. I'd employ someone from an "inferior" uni who was very good in interviews every time.

The uni's want you to believe that their name will help, but in my experience, in the real world that is not the case.
luckily its not the general public who will be hiring though. when a graduate is interviewed for a graduate position, the person interviewing them (if its a decent firm) will have a decent general knowledge of the university system and will have probably been through it themselves.

bascially you could work your arse off and get a 1st from a uni ranked outside the top 25 and be rejected, but a 2:2 from a well regarded one and they'll let you in. agreed that outside the top 8 or so uni's its much of a muchness, but the lower your uni down the tables past 25th-ish (where they start to go a bit shit) the less your degree is worth to someone who knows their stuff.

i've learnt recently though that the best way to get the job you want is to have contacts. someone with a 1st from oxford might get rejected from the 'big 5', but if you've got a 2:2 and have some contacts to get you a placement you're in there. the competition for 'work experience' at the big 5 is harder than getting an actual job.

and if everyone was thinking logically of course they'd employ the person who interviews best and would fit the role best, unfortunately there's alot of bullshit when it comes to recruitment and for the most competitive grad jobs going they have to split hairs and consider things like where you went to uni and how well regarded that uni is.

universities don't sell themselves on reputations (they do it on teaching, sports facilities, etc.) because they don't need to do that - employers do it for them with the selection measures mentioned.


Title: results day
Post by: Northern Red on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 13:32:25
Quote from: "hansgruber"
General Studies is a joke. They never used to accept that

General Studies was my saviour a few years ago. Buggered up my A-Levels with a C,D,E, but my A in GS saved my Uni choices and I got to go where I wanted to (Lancaster University - an excellent choice for anyone needing a clearing option)

Always wanted to take a 5th A-Level to complete the set: A, B, C, D, E


Title: results day
Post by: Piemonte on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 13:36:48
Quote from: "oxford_fan"
   luckily its not the general public who will be hiring though. when a graduate is interviewed for a graduate position, the person interviewing them (if its a decent firm) will have a decent general knowledge of the university system and will have probably been through it themselves.

bascially you could work your arse off and get a 1st from a uni ranked outside the top 25 and be rejected, but a 2:2 from a well regarded one and they'll let you in. agreed that outside the top 8 or so uni's its much of a muchness, but the lower your uni down the tables past 25th-ish (where they start to go a bit shit) the less your degree is worth to someone who knows their stuff.

i've learnt recently though that the best way to get the job you want is to have contacts. someone with a 1st from oxford might get rejected from the 'big 5', but if you've got a 2:2 and have some contacts to get you a placement you're in there. the competition for 'work experience' at the big 5 is harder than getting an actual job.

and if everyone was thinking logically of course they'd employ the person who interviews best and would fit the role best, unfortunately there's alot of bullshit when it comes to recruitment and for the most competitive grad jobs going they have to split hairs and consider things like where you went to uni and how well regarded that uni is.

universities don't sell themselves on reputations (they do it on teaching, sports facilities, etc.) because they don't need to do that - employers do it for them with the selection measures mentioned.


You're relying on personel / HR departments knowing what they are doing there OF. Oh dear!  :doh:  Again, just my experiences but HR departments are the biggest joke around and dont know their arse from their elbow.

You are probablly right though, I'm sure for specifc graduate jobs they have a greater knowledge of the uni system etc. The trouble being that theres about 1,000 graduates for evey graduate job

I'm going to shut up about this now, I'm not even sure what my point is anymore :?


Title: results day
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 13:39:09
[pedantic]Anyway it's big 4 not 5[/pedantic]


Title: results day
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 13:40:25
Some of the jobs I applied for there were 14,000 applications for 900 jobs  :|


Title: results day
Post by: Piemonte on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 13:46:40
Quote from: "simon pieman"
[pedantic]Anyway it's big 4 not 5[/pedantic]


Are we talking about football now??  :?


Title: results day
Post by: oxford_fan on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 14:50:42
Quote from: "simon pieman"
[pedantic]Anyway it's big 4 not 5[/pedantic]
+ grant thornton


Title: results day
Post by: sonic youth on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 15:13:04
i don't think my college does general studies. there is something called key skills, but for some reason i wasn't entered for it


Title: results day
Post by: Ralphy on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 15:14:17
Sonic did you get your results today?


Title: results day
Post by: strooood on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 15:22:13
cardiff wasnt a points system otherwise i wouldve got in thanks to some AS levels i got through the years... i had 40 points over the equivalent marks they were asking for . but no.

i'm still bitter by the way. not drunk yet either.


Title: results day
Post by: Samdy Gray on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 16:12:45
Just to add my 2 cents worth to the debate, I didn't go to uni and have the potential to earn shit loads more than any graduate by taking qualifications specific to my industry.

All it will cost is £100 per exam, for 8 exams = £800. A damn lot cheaper than going to uni and then you're easily set for at least £35k a year.


Title: results day
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 16:31:26
Quote from: "oxford_fan"
Quote from: "simon pieman"
[pedantic]Anyway it's big 4 not 5[/pedantic]
+ grant thornton


E & Y at number 4 makes over triple that. BDO and Baker Tilly are closer to Grant Thornton than GT to the big 4, so I don't really think it's a big 5 scenario.


Title: results day
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 16:35:01
Quote from: "sam_stfc"
Just to add my 2 cents worth to the debate, I didn't go to uni and have the potential to earn shit loads more than any graduate by taking qualifications specific to my industry.

All it will cost is £100 per exam, for 8 exams = £800. A damn lot cheaper than going to uni and then you're easily set for at least £35k a year.


What industry is that?

There are plenty of plumbers for example that earn double that in a year. Uni certainly isn't the best option for a lot of things but that's a whole new debate.


Title: results day
Post by: Stef Troll on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 16:44:18
Quote from: "sam_stfc"
Just to add my 2 cents worth to the debate, I didn't go to uni and have the potential to earn shit loads more than any graduate by taking qualifications specific to my industry.

All it will cost is £100 per exam, for 8 exams = £800. A damn lot cheaper than going to uni and then you're easily set for at least £35k a year.


Whats the pay increase scale like though.  For example my brother last September started  a graduate scheme at Jp Morgan which pays him just under £28,000 a year (a lot lower after tax though :oops: ).  However a few years down the line, he can be expecting around £50-60k (as long as he does well)

Its like qualified accountants too.  Once you have qualified (usually takes 3 years)  you can expect to be paid between £35-40k,  and the only way is up in terms of pay.  I've got a mate who works in Vegas auditing casinos., and he gets around £1000 a day.

Being a graduate is defo the way to go if you end up working in abig company which has good promotion prospects.  However otherwise it can be an expensive time


Title: results day
Post by: reeves4england on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 17:27:52
Well I got my AS results today!

Economics and Business A (coursework should bring it down to a B I think)
Geography B
History B
Maths C
Critical thinking C

I know it sounds really stupid and nerdy as they are quite good results, but I will have to retake all of my Maths exams and a couple of others to get the grades I want.

History will be dropped as the exams are far too much work, even if I did get a B!


Title: results day
Post by: Samdy Gray on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 17:31:32
Quote from: "simon pieman"
Quote from: "sam_stfc"
Just to add my 2 cents worth to the debate, I didn't go to uni and have the potential to earn shit loads more than any graduate by taking qualifications specific to my industry.

All it will cost is £100 per exam, for 8 exams = £800. A damn lot cheaper than going to uni and then you're easily set for at least £35k a year.


What industry is that?

There are plenty of plumbers for example that earn double that in a year. Uni certainly isn't the best option for a lot of things but that's a whole new debate.


Financial Services, as a Financial Adviser. £35k is a real basic salary, but the potential's there to earn a LOT more and very quickly. Also you get paid lots of commission.


Title: results day
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 17:31:41
Quote from: "reeves4england"
Well I got my AS results today!

I know it sounds really stupid and nerdy as they are quite good results, but I will have to retake all of my Maths exams and a couple of others to get the grades I want.

!


 I can see why you got a C in critical thinking....whatever that is :shrug:


Title: results day
Post by: santini on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 17:40:46
Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"
I can see why you got a C in critical thinking....whatever that is :shrug:
Try www.criticalthinking.net


Title: results day
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 17:55:50
Johno's been very quiet today.... :| ......hope its not more bad news now he's dropped out of top ten posters.


Title: results day
Post by: Ralphy on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 18:26:51
Isn't Johno a year 12? Hence no A level results? He'll get his AS results?


Title: results day
Post by: stfc_carver on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 18:53:29
1 U, 1 E, 1 D. o dear. down the pub to 'celebrate'. i get paid at midnight  8)


Title: results day
Post by: Ralphy on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 18:56:21
Did DMR get his results today?


Title: results day
Post by: stfc_carver on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 18:57:29
Quote from: "Ralphy"
Did DMR get his results today?


yes he did. wel at least he should have. i'll be surprised if bothered to go and get them. when he does it should be nearly as entertaining as mine.


Title: results day
Post by: Ralphy on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 18:58:38
I look forward to his drunken tales tomorrow.


Title: results day
Post by: sonic youth on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 19:16:51
Quote from: "stfc_carver"
Quote from: "Ralphy"
Did DMR get his results today?


yes he did. wel at least he should have. i'll be surprised if bothered to go and get them. when he does it should be nearly as entertaining as mine.


i'll piss myself if he fails considering he's been banging on about getting into oxford.

my mate got 3 a's and is off to sussex in september, the cunt  :D


Title: results day
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 19:34:55
Quote from: "Ralphy"
Isn't Johno a year 12? Hence no A level results? He'll get his AS results?


 Fuck nose but he posted he'd got up early to miss cricket and go and get his results.....might be a pregnancy test for all I know.


Title: results day
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 22:07:34
Quote from: "sam_stfc"
Quote from: "simon pieman"
Quote from: "sam_stfc"
Just to add my 2 cents worth to the debate, I didn't go to uni and have the potential to earn shit loads more than any graduate by taking qualifications specific to my industry.

All it will cost is £100 per exam, for 8 exams = £800. A damn lot cheaper than going to uni and then you're easily set for at least £35k a year.


What industry is that?

There are plenty of plumbers for example that earn double that in a year. Uni certainly isn't the best option for a lot of things but that's a whole new debate.


Financial Services, as a Financial Adviser. £35k is a real basic salary, but the potential's there to earn a LOT more and very quickly. Also you get paid lots of commission.


£35k starting salary? You'd be lucky to get that. It might be OTE though, that would seem more realistic.

Financial advisers can earn fuck loads but that much that quickly?


Title: results day
Post by: reeves4england on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 22:38:51
Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"
Quote from: "Ralphy"
Isn't Johno a year 12? Hence no A level results? He'll get his AS results?


 Fuck nose but he posted he'd got up early to miss cricket and go and get his results.....might be a pregnancy test for all I know.
I believe he got an E and a U, but his main subject is BTEC Sport, so he doesn't get any results for that one until next year!


Title: results day
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 22:41:43
Did you fuck any nose Ralphy?


Title: results day
Post by: sonic youth on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 22:47:32
Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"
Quote from: "Ralphy"
Isn't Johno a year 12? Hence no A level results? He'll get his AS results?


 Fuck nose but he posted he'd got up early to miss cricket and go and get his results.....might be a pregnancy test for all I know.


bit late but i got my AS results today, they're both released at the same time


Title: results day
Post by: Johno on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 23:01:02
I have come out of the wilderness.

yeh i got an e in english which was piss poor. well, 2 marks off a d so, bit peeved i didn't get a D. critical thinking doesn't really exist so my other u don't count. I still don't know what critcial thinking actually is.

unfortunetly reg, no pregency test.  :(


Title: results day
Post by: TalkTalk on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 23:37:15
Quote from: "sonic youth"
bit late but i got my AS results today, they're both released at the same time

And they were what?


Title: results day
Post by: TalkTalk on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 23:38:27
And how did you do, Tails?


Title: results day
Post by: yeo on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 23:41:13
I get the impression Youth doesnt want to say which is fair enough.


.


Title: results day
Post by: TalkTalk on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 23:42:44
Quote from: "Yeovil Red"
I get the impression Youth doesnt want to say which is fair enough.


.

Fair play. PM me Sonic, I'm interested?


Title: results day
Post by: sonic youth on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 23:43:18
we didn't fail all of 'em yeovil, don't worry


Title: results day
Post by: sonic youth on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 23:46:09
s'pose you had the right to know our results, but i'm gonna kill dat nigga


Title: results day
Post by: yeo on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 23:47:39
Sorry I feel quilty now he swore me to secerecy though and I did keep on and on at him :mrgreen:


Title: results day
Post by: TalkTalk on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 23:49:15
Laura got (AS) an E in Government & Politics, a B in Sociology and an A in Religious Studies.

For an atheist household that's pretty good  :shock:


Title: results day
Post by: yeo on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 23:50:54
She can be a Nun :D


Title: results day
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 23:51:41
It probably helps to be atheist


Title: results day
Post by: TalkTalk on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 23:52:08
Quote from: "Yeovil Red"
She can be a Nun :D

Too late mate, methinks.


Title: results day
Post by: sonic youth on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 23:52:56
Quote from: "TalkTalk"
Laura got (AS) an E in Government & Politics, a B in Sociology and an A in Religious Studies.

For an atheist household that's pretty good  :shock:


good on her, a few of my mates are taking gov pol - i wish i did as well.

i got an A in film and an E in psychology.


Title: results day
Post by: TalkTalk on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 23:53:27
Quote from: "simon pieman"
It probably helps to be atheist

I think you're probably right there. Objectivity probably helps. No baggage. Well observed Mr Pi


Title: results day
Post by: yeo on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 23:55:29
Im thinking Film 2010 hosted by Sonic Youth 8)


Title: results day
Post by: TalkTalk on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 23:56:50
Quote from: "sonic youth"
i got an A in film and an E in psychology.

Ah...an alternative Barry Norman in the making  8)

Otherwise get that right eye of yours in that viewfinder and start making a name for yourself. You can always progress into the movie stuff once you've got an eye for a picture and can do production and then direction, eh?


Title: results day
Post by: TalkTalk on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 23:57:24
Quote from: "Yeovil Red"
Im thinking Film 2010 hosted by Sonic Youth 8)

soapy tit wank...mad minds think alike Yeovil...


Title: results day
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, August 17, 2006, 23:58:02
At least you haven't ended up at your grades sonic. I think that alone is a cause for celebration. Well done on the A as well, good stuff.


Title: results day
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, August 18, 2006, 01:12:53
Quote from: "Johno"
I have come out of the wilderness.

yeh i got an e in english which was piss poor. well, 2 marks off a d so, bit peeved i didn't get a D. critical thinking doesn't really exist so my other u don't count. I still don't know what critcial thinking actually is.

unfortunetly reg, no pregency test.  :(


 Its all shit anyway....I'd have liked to have done a BTec Sport....unfortunately it was just swotty stuff like Latin in my day.


Title: results day
Post by: Piemonte on Friday, August 18, 2006, 08:19:39
Quote from: "sonic youth"
Quote from: "TalkTalk"
Laura got (AS) an E in Government & Politics, a B in Sociology and an A in Religious Studies.

For an atheist household that's pretty good  :shock:


good on her, a few of my mates are taking gov pol - i wish i did as well.

i got an A in film and an E in psychology.


I did Gov & Politics A level years ago.

I got a D as I tended to just go off on one about socialists and hippies. how things change eh? :roll: