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Must post this first,thus i will beat Sonic and Ultra  :D The same team as the last game and no Akhtar for Pakistan.....yet he's probably going to play in the ODIs,joy :roll:


Anyone going to the Oval?And if you are,are you dressing up?

Should've changed our team, given Jon Lewis and others a chance, while its a non-critical match.

Now we'll never know what we'd have played like with a different team.
I think this is weakness from the England selectors and it'll cost us in the long run...

they should had give stuart broad a test debut, after an impressive 20/20 outing on saturday.

 I posted before that perhaps the only change, may have been Broad for Hoggy, because he's been looking a bit knackered.....but the selectors have decided, these players got us to this position so deserve to be picked again...after all a test match is an important thing in itself.

Sure, but there's no such thing as friendlies in cricket, so surely this test is the nearest thing.

I just hate the idea of taking someone to OZ as injury cover who's not played for a few years if at all. We might need them. Is it safe to rely on the 'dream team' all the time...

 I heard an interview with Broad, and I'd imagine he'll go to Australia,  but the only concern is that he's still growing, at the  moment he's about the ideal size, but the growth could easily be outwards as well as upwards, and may cause a problem.

Don't change a winning team just for the sake of it,especially when we are going along well and there is a bit of positivity about the team,cause lets face it as soon as the ODIs begin we'll start losing again :(

true true .. one dayers is the time to try a few people like Broad out

we may as well play a young team for the ODI games. we are just going to lose anyway

larwoods spot on

they could have taken borad into the squad for the experience but we are bulding a side for the ashes and should be picking our best side in this game because the next one we play will be in adelaide

I think the selectors are right, need to just have one more game as a squad. whether or not this first eleven will start the ashes is another matter. fringe players will probably get a chance in the one dayers at some point, usually do as we get thrashed.

The england team is unchanged. While the pakistan team making a couple of changes. Currently 29-0 with rain stop play and i now think that they are taking lunch.

91-5  :shock:

Could be a short test match if the weather stays the same. The ball's definitely doing a bit off the pitch

173-8

well...not the best start. we aren't bowling well either!

play finishes at 7.30...never seen this before!

and a shocking first day for england. so much for renewed ashes optimism..........

FFS it's about time England weren't so docile under Sven. I hate that bloke  :x

:soapy tit wank: bloody sven.

well, i will be watching once again of course, guess the only bonus from our bowling y'day was that we luckily got younis khan out, which was a lucky wicket.

With the series wrapped up you couldnt really expect much !

i would of hope we would play the same really considering the next test is the ashes.

168-2

its been poor from england so far it really has

truly bad!

Lets hope it pisses down till Tuesday.  8)

hurrah we got someone out!

i missed it, i can't believe it. ivr had it on all day turned the channel over for neighbours and missed it.  :soapy tit wank:

oh well probably a hit wicket anyway  :-))(

anything will do! being a somerset fan, i accept anyway of getting someone out or hitting runs.

:Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: thats a fair point Johno

I think we're just trying to lull the aussies into a false sense of security. Hope so anyway, because I've got tickets to the 1st test in Brisbane  :beers:

336-3

Mohammad Yousuf hit his third century in four Tests and passed 600 runs for the series as Pakistan

374-3 rain stop play. But play will begin in 6 mins.

i hope it keeps raining i really do

379-4..not that i give a fuck

hurray! wait we are going to lose anyway  :-))(

398-6 fuck me why didnt they just bowl like this from the off

 :soapy tit wank:
Harsh but with regard to this test probably a fair reaction :wink:

29-1,guess who's out???????Yes its Tres again,hope he gets some runs in the ODIs,he's had a bad summer,fucking cider drinker :wink:

Tresco should be dropped. no exuses! awful batting from him this summer

changed ball.




fishy.

cheating paki's :x

5 runs added for ball tampering by the cheating Pakistan team.

New 'used' ball.

nice use of apostrophe. what did you get in your A levels again?

Equally, nice use of capital letters.  :wink:

Pakistan are now refusing to take the field in protest about accusations of ball tampering......should be enough for play to abandoned....abandon the one day series as well. :fu:

Interesting - the Pakistan team are refusing to restart the match  :soapy tit wank:

3-0 series win then  :D

Rameez Raja was wittering on about how it's ruined the whole series for him. What a joke. Surely they should carry on with the game and actually try and win for once?

If there is a complaint to be made, make it afterwards to the proper authorities.

they have locked themselves in the dressing room on protest due to the allegations of ball tampering.

So they decided to stop playing because of a 5 run penalty? No wonder I don't watch cricket, that seems mad!

We didn't tour  Pakistan for years after the Shakooor Rana episode....I'd say time to ditch matches v Pakistan altogether.

this is hilarious

Thats taken it a bit far.

Pakistan did also cheat in January when Afridi scuff the pitch up. So who knows?

What does ball tampering consist of?

I think their main problem as it's all accusations. no one has actually been seen doing anything.

They better not cancel it, i'm meant to be watching the 20-20 next Monday...

Play may soon resume apparently John Major was called upon fior some diplomacy.

   One Daryl Hair..... there's only one Daryl Hair......one Dary Hair.....there's only one Daryl Hair.

Pakistan have come out but now Hair has refused to stand.....

No more play tonight - what a joke. As I said I'm all for Pakistan standing up for their rights, but they have to do that through the right channels. You can't just walk off the pitch - imagine Chelsea doing that in the Premiership!

We don't yet know what proof of ball tampering Hare will come up with, but what a different game cricket is to football with all it's diving and cheating at the highest level. Honour and fair play thankfully still does mean something in cricket. Despite Pakistan's dodgy past, Inzimam does seem an honest guy.

should have completed the game then made their protest ... ban them all .. and give England the match and the series

honour's one thing, stopping a test match with 20,000 paying spectators in the ground (and more tomorrow) because you don't agree with a decision is farcical. Fine them!

will the bookies pay out on an England win?

you don't do things in halves do you fatters  :?

there's no proof of pakistan cheating and i think they're perfectly within their rights to make a protest. the problem seems to be an utter lack of communication between everyone.

agreed. But refusing to play is not a protest, and according to the rules of the game they should be made to forfeit

a fair point if it was another country but pakistan still has the stigma of ball tampering hanging over it and therefore to be accused of it when they believe they did nothing wrong has huge implications

i don't think they were refusing to play, just delayed coming on after tea to make a point. daryl hair effectively ended the day's play by taking off the bails and it all got rather more confusing as a result.

the game should be forfeited though...

If they were delaying they should have just said "we're delaying" and everyone could have just got on with it. I think they've only changed to saying they were delaying because then the game shouldn't be forfeited.

Daryl Hair is a legend anyway - he was the one who kept no-balling the chucker (Murali)!

No smoke without fire. Check out their history:

In 2000 Waqar received a one-match ban for ball tampering following a one-day international against South Africa in Sri Lanka while Azhar Mahmood was fined for "abetting" the infringment in the same match.

The Pakistan fast bowler Shoaib Akhtar, ruled out of the current series with because of an ankle injury, received a reprimand in November 2002 for the same offence after a Test match against Zimbabwe in Harare.

And the following year, in May, Shoaib was given a two-match ban for ball tampering after a one-day international against New Zealand in Dambulla.

The bails can be put back on though Youthster.

aaaaaaah. That's definitely an 'aaaaaah' situation.

Just thought id point that out to him as he was saying that they couldnt carry on playing as the Convict had removed the bails.

I know. I thought it was quite deep.

i didn't say they couldn't spudster  :wink:

unless he's burnt them to make the second Ashes

Breaking news - 7.50pm The vice chairman of the ECB, Mike Soper, has just announced that he believes that the fourth and final Test is likely to be called off after today's extraordinary scenes.

Technically the match has been forfited and England have won the series
3-0 because pakistan did not come out to the field of play after tea. Then the umpires removed the bails. Never liked Daryll Hair as a umpire. I have now have respect for the Pakistan cricket team. Fair play to them. Sad day for cricket. If there is play tomorrow that it is a farce in it's own way.

 :? Surely they should have won the match first and then kicked off?

i would of thought so.

here the incident on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjIivpHaQOM

haha fucking class! we play shit all game and we still win the damn thing! or at least we should. no way can they play on! if they do they are ignoring the laws

Just announced on BBC News that game has been forfeited and England win.

Sad way to end the series.

Jonathan Agnew's got it right I think:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/england/5269492.stm

Because that comment isn't racist either  :o

It hasnt actually been proved that they tampered with the ball.

That's not why the game has been stopped though is it?

Yes, the Pakistan team werent happy that Darrell Hair had accused them of ball tampering.

Yes, so instead of protesting properly they decided to stay in the Pavilion. That's what cost them the game.

You didn't see England all stay of the field of play in protest of Rooney's dismissal in the football WC, regardless of how right or wrong the decision was.

Watched the highlights on 5ive earlier and Sir Geoff mentioned problems between Pakistan and Darrell Hair in the past. Anybody know what happened there?

And when they came back out the Umpires decided not to bother!.

Surely the Umpires re-entering the field of play and adding on the lost time on the 5th day would have been the better option?.

The bails were removed by then

I think Darrell Hair claims Kashmir is his.  Something to do with jumpers.

Plus...

http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/engvpak/content/current/story/257072.html

"The fourth npower Test match between England and Pakistan has therefore been forfeited with the match being awarded to England. In accordance with the laws of cricket it was noted that the umpires had correctly deemed that Pakistan had forfeited the match and awarded the Test to England"

Rulz is rulz, Spudnik

Will the Bookies pay out on an England win?

I bet that was a huge price earlier today,wish id thought of this earlier when this all kicked off(or not as the case may be)

They'll have to, exceptional circumstances or not, it's still an England win

Very odd incident....because i think the umpires are right in the forfeit cause pakistan took too long to come back out after tea. came them two chance and clearly weren't coming out so Hair made the right decision. Pakistan can't just play when they want.

apparently they tried to fill the ball with explosives.

 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Suicide bowlers.

:Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Apparently MI5 were 'stumped' as to how they got them in there but it would 'seam' they had pre-planned the whole incident

I'm not sure of all the history between Hair and Pakistan, but i do know he was the umpire who gave Inzy out in the last series we played in Pakistan, when Harmy chucked the ball at the wicket,prompting poor Inzy to jump out of the way for fear that he'd get injured.
Any other umpire than Hair and Pakistan might not have got so pissed off,he does seem to have a problem with them.Having said that, what Inzamam did was wrong,you can't do what he did,its not cricket :nono:

Maybe something good will come of it and the ODI series will get called off :wink:

yeah we need a rest .. Harmy is already out ... we need a good rest b4 the Aussie test down under

I didn't mean for the rest,i just meant we're shit at ODIs,it'll save a lot of pain if the series is called off :(

that as well !  :mrgreen:

 

  :thumbs:

   Clearly the ICC will need to throw the book (not the Koran though) at Inzamam ....which wil mean the tourists will probably boycott the series.

    It would be for the best not to bother with fixtures v Pakistan in the future.

why? england-pakistan relations are fine and both test series over the last few months have been quality

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/5273582.stm
Afridi comments are very interesting.

Plus if inzi his found guilty of on the charges against him on friday i can see the odi series and the 20/20 game be called off.

Why not? I can't think of a better use for it

 Very conveniently the hearing has now been postponed until after the one dayers.....so EWC wont lose any money then the book can be thrown at Inzi.

the whole thing has been an absolute joke

It certainly has, I've been laughing nonstop at this mess.

Its boring me now.  :boring:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/7183233.stm

Great timing!Be great if the ICC told them where to stick it...but i doubt its going to happen  :-))(