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Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: SwindonTartanArmy on Monday, July 10, 2006, 13:09:14 Quote While reports in the French media suggest that Materazzi called Zidane a 'terrorist,' making reference to his Algerian roots, the Frenchman's reaction was inexcusable and left a sour taste in the mouth after what has been an outstanding career. :|Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: LoyalSupporter on Monday, July 10, 2006, 13:44:21 He said
'I hope Jean suffered' Jean was ZZ first coach and ZZ saw him as his farter, who died of cancer just before the world cup started Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: STFCere on Monday, July 10, 2006, 13:45:09 if thats true materazzi should be harshly punished
just imagine if me or you walked down the street and shouted 'terrorist' at a muslim? if brought to court, you would receive some sort of punishment Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: mexico red on Monday, July 10, 2006, 14:56:15 i reckon he said...
impressionism isnt art. Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: Danjackson10 on Monday, July 10, 2006, 15:07:02 i think he said "dennis wise wants to sign you at swindon but he thinks your a pussy"
Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: Bogus Dave on Monday, July 10, 2006, 15:11:18 He said "ooooo darling. white is soooo not your colour."
Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, July 10, 2006, 16:13:48 Quote from: "mexico red" i reckon he said... impressionism isnt art. :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: janaage on Monday, July 10, 2006, 16:23:30 Quote from: "LoyalSupporter" He said 'I hope Jean suffered' Jean was ZZ first coach and ZZ saw him as his farter, who died of cancer just before the world cup started Any truth in this? Source. Just thinking that that would be the only kinda thing that could make a man snap like that. Calling someone a terrorist isn't gonna have that effect. Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, July 10, 2006, 16:27:21 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/world_cup_2006/teams/france/5164094.stm
Quote Sources in France say it is believed Materazzi insulted Zidane's mother. Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, July 10, 2006, 16:35:06 If it was about his mere....probably something like .... Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.... I fart in your general direction.
Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: mexico red on Monday, July 10, 2006, 16:41:56 excellent reg
he may have concluded with the following Go and boil your bottom, sons of a silly person. I blow my nose at you, I don't wanna talk to you no more, you empty headed animal food trough wiper Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, July 10, 2006, 16:45:34 Quote from: "mexico red" excellent reg he may have concluded with the following Go and boil your bottom, sons of a silly person. I blow my nose at you, I don't wanna talk to you no more, you empty headed animal food trough wiper For a Frenchman being taunted thus by an Italian....understandably proved too much. Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: sonic youth on Monday, July 10, 2006, 17:12:24 Quote from: "mexico red" i reckon he said... impressionism isnt art. :soapy tit wank: "we all still know you're bald" i still maintain that whatever materazzi said, it must have been well beyond the realms of banter/sledging for him to snap and react like that in a split second. Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: hansgruber on Monday, July 10, 2006, 17:14:44 surely there's someone out there who can lip read and can tell us exactly what Materazzi said! Anyone else notice him give ZZ's nipple a tweak just before those mysterious words?
Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: BrightonRed on Monday, July 10, 2006, 17:32:37 I'm not claiming this is the truth or anything.. just another one to add to the pile!
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_sports/view/218322/1/.html Quote The former Real Madrid star's moment of madness in his last match before retiring may have been provoked by Materazzi calling his sister a prostitute, according to a report on Brazilian television channel Globo. Although neither player has yet revealed the nature of their disagreement, Fantastico, a programme on Globo, employed lip-reading experts who said footage of the incident showed the Italian twice insulted Zidane's sister. The programme claimed Materazzi made the same comment twice before then using a "coarse word" at the French player. Quote Fantastico, a programme on Globo hmmm :? Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: red macca on Monday, July 10, 2006, 21:11:58 i,ve heard he called him a algerian terrorist
Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: red macca on Monday, July 10, 2006, 21:15:10 http://home.skysports.com/worldcup/article.aspx?hlid=402163&CPID=4&clid=119&lid=4161&title=Materazzi+denies+Zidane+jibe
the fact he says he does not know what the word means suggests he is talking out of his ass Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: Amir on Monday, July 10, 2006, 21:20:59 On Channel 4 news there was a guy who said he'd spoken to a couple of French players today, and the insult was towards Zidane's mother who has been ill recently and was particularly bad on the morning of the final. 'Your mother is a whore' was reputedly what led to Zidane trying to cave his chest in.
Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: Compo on Monday, July 10, 2006, 22:00:59 Radio 5 said today it was something about Materrazi claiming to have fucked Zidane's sister and ZZ took offence!
Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: Danjackson10 on Monday, July 10, 2006, 22:21:03 so the conclusion to this story is...... nobody has a fucking clue what was said!
Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: Compo on Monday, July 10, 2006, 22:25:47 Yep... not a clue
Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, July 10, 2006, 22:27:29 Quote from: "Danjackson10" so the conclusion to this story is...... nobody has a fucking clue what was said! Well only ZZ and Materazzi anyway! Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Monday, July 10, 2006, 22:29:45 I reckon it was worse than any of those. I think he called him a fucking cunt, surely the only insult that would justify Zidane's reaction.
Either that or "ey zizou, tu est un grande merde et ta mere est une grande putain." One of my favourite insults. Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: oxford_fan on Tuesday, July 11, 2006, 11:05:24 "your mother is a terrorist whore" is what they seem to be going for, although it is said that zidane will tell everyone soon
Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: janaage on Tuesday, July 11, 2006, 11:57:01 The BBC's Ten O'Clock News also called in experts to study the television footage of the incident and determined the following:
Materazzi's first word to Zidane was "no" before he then told him to "calm down". He then accused him of being a "liar" and wished "an ugly death to you and your family" on the day the Frenchman's mother had been taken to hospital ill. This was followed by "Go f*** yourself" Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, July 11, 2006, 12:16:57 Quote from: "janaage" The BBC's Ten O'Clock News also called in experts to study the television footage of the incident and determined the following: Materazzi's first word to Zidane was "no" before he then told him to "calm down". He then accused him of being a "liar" and wished "an ugly death to you and your family" on the day the Frenchman's mother had been taken to hospital ill. This was followed by "Go f*** yourself" Yeah I saw that as well Jan. Whatever was said it must have something to do with his mother. Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: genf_stfc on Tuesday, July 11, 2006, 12:40:39 just a quick couple of points: Does anyone know if ZiZu understands Italian, or if Materazzi speaks any French ?!
Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: janaage on Tuesday, July 11, 2006, 12:50:25 After spending a few years in Italy (with Juve) I would say yes, Italian is a very easy language to pick up, especially for the french as they're both roman languages.
Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, July 11, 2006, 13:09:47 And Materazzi definitely spoke Italian
Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: janaage on Tuesday, July 11, 2006, 16:14:36 Has the world gone mad? From the bbc
Piara Powar, national co-ordinator for the anti-racism group Kick It Out told Five Live, said: "If there was a racial slur then Fifa needs to act." Keith Hackett, head of referees in England, said that if it can be proved that Matterazzi racially abused the Frenchman, then Fifa should take retrospective action for "the good of the game." So are these two saying that insulting someone is worse than headbutting someone in the chest. Words are more of an issue than violence? What ever happen to the primary school reply of sticks and stones may break my bones..... Fucking hell, in about 50 years the average human is going to be a quivering pussy. Fucking grow a back bone, if someone calls you an irish tick cunt or welsh sheep shagging shit stabber, then you hit them because you take offence, the person who used a racist slur will be more frowned upon than the agressor. Turn the other cheek brothers. Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: walrus on Tuesday, July 11, 2006, 16:23:51 Quote from: "janaage" Has the world gone mad? From the bbc Piara Powar, national co-ordinator for the anti-racism group Kick It Out told Five Live, said: "If there was a racial slur then Fifa needs to act." Keith Hackett, head of referees in England, said that if it can be proved that Matterazzi racially abused the Frenchman, then Fifa should take retrospective action for "the good of the game." So are these two saying that insulting someone is worse than headbutting someone in the chest. Words are more of an issue than violence? What ever happen to the primary school reply of sticks and stones may break my bones..... Fucking hell, in about 50 years the average human is going to be a quivering pussy. Fucking grow a back bone, if someone calls you an irish tick cunt or welsh sheep shagging shit stabber, then you hit them because you take offence, the person who used a racist slur will be more frowned upon than the agressor. Turn the other cheek brothers. :thumbs: Spot on.... We're becoming a generation of pussies. It's irrelevant what he said, Zizou's reaction is inexcusable within the laws of football. It's a none-event. I cannot believe the police are considering taking action against Zidane for the headbutt either! It's crazy. Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, July 11, 2006, 16:27:02 Yeah but when I found out my dad was ill and if someone had said 'death to your family' I would be fucking livid.
At the end of the day I essentially agree, but when emotions run high in times like that it's hard not to lose it. Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: oxford_fan on Tuesday, July 11, 2006, 16:43:21 Quote from: "Walrus" Quote from: "janaage" Has the world gone mad? From the bbc Piara Powar, national co-ordinator for the anti-racism group Kick It Out told Five Live, said: "If there was a racial slur then Fifa needs to act." Keith Hackett, head of referees in England, said that if it can be proved that Matterazzi racially abused the Frenchman, then Fifa should take retrospective action for "the good of the game." So are these two saying that insulting someone is worse than headbutting someone in the chest. Words are more of an issue than violence? What ever happen to the primary school reply of sticks and stones may break my bones..... Fucking hell, in about 50 years the average human is going to be a quivering pussy. Fucking grow a back bone, if someone calls you an irish tick cunt or welsh sheep shagging shit stabber, then you hit them because you take offence, the person who used a racist slur will be more frowned upon than the agressor. Turn the other cheek brothers. :thumbs: Spot on.... We're becoming a generation of pussies. It's irrelevant what he said, Zizou's reaction is inexcusable within the laws of football. It's a none-event. I cannot believe the police are considering taking action against Zidane for the headbutt either! It's crazy. if it was a racial slur which prompted the headbutt, it is quite right to investigate it. the racial slur is worse because it provoked the physical retribution. Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: DMR on Tuesday, July 11, 2006, 18:22:56 oh for fucks sakes people, whatever the wop said it doesn't really matter, like cricket i bet players chirp each other all game long, if zz reacted thats his problem regardless of what was said.
Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, July 11, 2006, 18:31:32 Quote from: "dave_m_russell" oh for fucks sakes people, whatever the wop said it doesn't really matter, like cricket i bet players chirp each other all game long, if zz reacted thats his problem regardless of what was said. So if someone said something about your mother, who you just found out was ill, you wouldn't be pissed off? Again, I do agree with the whole sticks and stones thing and am in no way saying ZZ had a right to do what he did (if that was indeed what Materazzi said to him) but I wouldn't blame the chap for doing it. Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: DiV on Tuesday, July 11, 2006, 18:35:12 if I were Zidane...I would have kept my cool....won the world cup....then headbutted him whilst still holding the world cup....then I would have bashed him round the face with the world cup just to make a point.
Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: DMR on Tuesday, July 11, 2006, 18:38:16 Quote from: "simon pieman" Quote from: "dave_m_russell" oh for fucks sakes people, whatever the wop said it doesn't really matter, like cricket i bet players chirp each other all game long, if zz reacted thats his problem regardless of what was said. So if someone said something about your mother, who you just found out was ill, you wouldn't be pissed off? Again, I do agree with the whole sticks and stones thing and am in no way saying ZZ had a right to do what he did (if that was indeed what Materazzi said to him) but I wouldn't blame the chap for doing it. If Materazzi wasn't aware, which i'd wager he wasn't, then tough luck zz. Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, July 11, 2006, 18:43:59 Yeah but even if Materazzi wasn't aware (he clearly wouldn't have been) then it's still a pretty fucking horrible thing to say. Maybe I'm just being too sympathetic toward Zidane because I know what he's going through.
Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: DiV on Tuesday, July 11, 2006, 18:45:27 we've all been there Si....
....however, I expect losing in the World Cup final would have been more painful to Materazzi than the headbutt..... Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: Ginginho on Tuesday, July 11, 2006, 19:02:55 Either way, I fucking loved it.
Zidane will always be a legend. Made a crap World Cup slightly interesting. Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: red macca on Tuesday, July 11, 2006, 21:00:06 to be honest you cant condone what zidane done but on the other hand if what he said was racist and it is proven then he should face punishment aswell.very hard to prove though
Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: STFCDude on Tuesday, July 11, 2006, 22:48:00 ZZ should not have done what he did, but in fairness, if anyone insults a persons family to such a degree that it incites such violence, then the person who instigates it should suffer as much punishment s the person who raises the first blow. If what Materazzi said was about ZZ's mother being a whore etc, then I am sure there is no-one here who can claim to not be offended if that as directed at themselves. Admittedly, he should have waited until after the match, but come on, if I said that to anyone on this forum face to face, who wouldnt want to nut me one? Also considiering ZZ has Algerian roots and to mention the word "Terrorist", its hardly likely ZZ would make a joke out of it.
Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: janaage on Wednesday, July 12, 2006, 09:05:52 FIFA need to bring out a new directive on this. Before any match all players should carry out research on their opponants family history. If any players are found to have relatives in hospital then please do not mention them.
Like Dave says, you hear about the sledging that goes on in cricket it's just as bad, does that mean that next time Gilchrists says something to Lara, Brian carry whack him round the head with his bat? Fucking hell, for years now everyone's been winding up Posh and Becks about her taking it up the arse, in front of their kids, on occasions, they just ignore it. Best way to wind up a winder upper? Ignore it, win it and then rub their noses in it! Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: strooood on Wednesday, July 12, 2006, 09:42:44 DEFINITE ANSWER ON WHAT WAS SAID TO ZIZOU
"that strooood fella is a cock and i hate him" clearly zidane didnt take too kindly to it. Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: McLovin on Wednesday, July 12, 2006, 09:55:24 The whole debacle was good. Football is a mans game, and insults and violence should be more acceptable.
Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: genf_stfc on Wednesday, July 12, 2006, 09:59:43 Quote from: "janaage" Like Dave says, you hear about the sledging that goes on in cricket it's just as bad, does that mean that next time Gilchrists says something to Lara, Brian carry whack him round the head with his bat? who was it that aked Shane Warne "Why are you so fat" ? to which he replied "because everytime I shag your wife she gives me a biscuit" - classic Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: Piemonte on Wednesday, July 12, 2006, 10:08:09 Quote from: "janaage" Like Dave says, you hear about the sledging that goes on in cricket it's just as bad, does that mean that next time Gilchrists says something to Lara, Brian carry whack him round the head with his bat? It would make cricket less dull though, so I'm all for it. :D Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, July 12, 2006, 10:13:46 Quote from: "Piemonte" Quote from: "janaage" Like Dave says, you hear about the sledging that goes on in cricket it's just as bad, does that mean that next time Gilchrists says something to Lara, Brian carry whack him round the head with his bat? It would make cricket less dull though, so I'm all for it. :D Again I wouldn't blame BL for doing that, especially because I hate Gilchrist. Piemonte's right as well. Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: Rich Pullen on Wednesday, July 12, 2006, 18:17:45 Zidane has apologised to his nation and to the children who were watching.
If FIFA took action on Materazzi then they'd have to review every game ever because it's a part of a defenders game is to wind-up the opponent. I'm not condoning whatever the Italian said but I can guarentee it wasn't the first nasty comment Zidane or any player has endured throughout his career. Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: Scot Munroe on Wednesday, July 12, 2006, 18:55:43 Quote from: "genf_stfc" Quote from: "janaage" Like Dave says, you hear about the sledging that goes on in cricket it's just as bad, does that mean that next time Gilchrists says something to Lara, Brian carry whack him round the head with his bat? who was it that aked Shane Warne "Why are you so fat" ? to which he replied "because everytime I shag your wife she gives me a biscuit" - classic it was not shane warne it was glenn Mcgrath who was sledging Eddo Branders in zimbabwe about 10 years ago. Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: Batch on Wednesday, July 12, 2006, 19:57:47 ZZ has asked international peacekeeper Mr T to tell Materazzi to lay off his mother:
http://www.devilducky.com/media/26951/ warning: Link contains shorts. Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: Scot Munroe on Wednesday, July 12, 2006, 21:26:18 i think this might help. This what zidane and Materatzzi said to each other
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhmN_cOnbmk&mode=related&search= Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: Danjackson10 on Wednesday, July 12, 2006, 22:24:46 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zy3YbEiYMc&mode=related&search=
Check it from this angle Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: oxford_fan on Wednesday, July 12, 2006, 22:29:34 Quote from: "Danjackson10" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zy3YbEiYMc&mode=related&search= BANG! man goes down.Check it from this angle it was a beautiful headbutt, he even fights with style. i think we may see a surge in similar incidents around town centres. Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: Danjackson10 on Wednesday, July 12, 2006, 22:30:30 oh and dont forget the pro evo version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTCAqnW09jo&mode=related&search= Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, July 12, 2006, 22:45:33 I thought the point of this lip reading shit was that they couldn't see what Zidane was saying. You must be able to from the other angle.
Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: oxford_fan on Wednesday, July 12, 2006, 22:58:31 Quote from: "simon pieman" I thought the point of this lip reading shit was that they couldn't see what Zidane was saying. You must be able to from the other angle. by the looks of it he only asks materazzi what the fuck he thinks he's doing grabbing onto him like thatTitle: What Materazzi said.... Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, July 12, 2006, 23:04:19 Quote from: "oxford_fan" Quote from: "simon pieman" I thought the point of this lip reading shit was that they couldn't see what Zidane was saying. You must be able to from the other angle. by the looks of it he only asks materazzi what the fuck he thinks he's doing grabbing onto him like thatHmm yeah looking at it again the camera doesn't see what he says after that. Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: Batch on Thursday, July 13, 2006, 08:31:11 Recreate that fateful moment with this dull game
http://www.corriere.it/Primo_Piano/Sport/2006/07_Luglio/10/pop_zidane.shtml Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: land_of_bo on Thursday, July 13, 2006, 16:14:23 I reckon Marco is a hardcore Monty Python fan, and uttered the timeless words...."Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelled of elderberries!"
Title: What Materazzi said.... Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Thursday, July 13, 2006, 16:15:46 Quote from: "land_of_bo" I reckon Marco is a hardcore Monty Python fan, and uttered the timeless words...."Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelled of elderberries!" I'll go with that :mrgreen: |