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5-0 at the moment, we've played very well, although the Reggae Boys have been rather poor. Two more goals for Robo-Crouch, seems he's getting more confident with every game. Everyone's playing well and looks confident, just hope we don't get too cocky about this result, there'll be much harder test's ahead

Robo-Crouch missed a penalty for a hattrick :(

what a fucking awful pen  :|

just shattered his confidence before the world cup

fuckin drill it crouch u twat

There's the hattrick 8)

i think bwb may have just come

well done crouch  :D

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What a game! That's the formation for the world cup, same team we started with but maybe Neville in for Carragher if he's fit.

Crouch has fully answered all his critics now, a hattrick and created Lampard's goal too, easily man of the match 10/10. The last goal was simply superb.

Penalties aren't really his thing but there's not a chance that would have shattered his confidence, he's scored 5 goals in his last 3 games for England and he only started one of them.

can you imagine the paraguayan's reaction to seeing crouch stumble around the pitch in the opening game? they'd stand there looking on in awe.

perhaps crouch can have the sort of effect that koller had for the czech republic in euro 2004

I wasn't convinced by Crouch until he started doing Robotics.

He now has my full backing 8)

before we get carried away we was playin Jamaica

Crouch played well....BUT that 1st goal was never his....it was going wide till it hit the defender....no way should he be given that....

Other than that...

Nah fuck it we will clearly win the the World Cup now and Crouch will get the Golden boot.

Don't fucking care he made the goal and that's what counts. Crouch on good form is a great player, poor form he is really quite average. I'd put him in the starting 11 in the WC, looking really confident and in good form and didn't need to come deep to get the ball today, which is why he made such an impact.

Nah his first would of gone in anyway, either into the corner or off the post. It would be ridiculous to take it away from him anyway.

Fuck me, I've been out all day, missed the footie, come back home check the score - 6-0 and CROUCH scored a hatrick? What the fuck?  :shock:

Crouch's penalty attempt was a gentle shocker.

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Great to see England scoring some goals and although it was only Jamaica it still takes some doing to score six goals.

Can't wait for the WC to start...I will be working next Saturday  :evil:

Should see the rest of the games though!

I'll have sweet fuck all to do after the 9th  :P

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Jamaica aren't 6-0 shit....  was a great result though I was working through most of it.   :evil:

Crouchy should start vs. Paraguay, Owen looked decidedly average, though I missed his goal which I'm told was rather good.com.

I fully agree with that....I just dont think it was his goal, id say the same if it was an England player.



It was going wide, it was the defenders touch that beat the keeper not the orginal header....

It wasn't a header?  :?

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I know that....which makes my last post seem even odder  :?

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jamaica are woeful at the moment they didnt even get into the final group stages of the concacaf qualifiers they were pipped by mexico usa costa rica, trinidad and tobago, guatemala and fuckin panama. thats poor.

even so good result.

Crouchy did the robot twice but relented for the his 3rd goal! ace!  :D

Cant wait for our first shootout!

Clearly a good result which will send the boys into the tournament in good spirits and high on confidence.

I've never been a huge fan of Crouch, but the more I see him play, the better he seems to perform. Took his two goals well (the debatable first was clearly an OG), but the Beckham-esque penalty was shocking.

Despite the result, the overall performance wasn't great, probably because they were cruising. I didn't really see Gerrard today, which is unusual. He is the key to how England play, and he didn't seem to click into gear IMHO. He certainly can and will play better.

I was also a little concerned about how easily Jamaica cut through the defence on numerous occasions. Only a lack of direction prevented them testing the keeper(s) more often. Robbo made one world class save in the first half. We'd get punished by better quality teams.

Overall assessment, great result and a good confidence booster. Bring on Paraguay, I'm really looking forward to this WC.

I think you sum it up prett well Coxernator.

Though when you go 3-0 up 17 minutes I guess it is only natural to drop down a couple of gears.

Is it just me or does Sol Campbell look rubbish? I hope we tighten our defense a bit.

Having watched it again Crouch's first was going in anyway for sure so it definitely wasn't an own goal. Good to hear that Sven is now going to start with Crouch and Owen for the first game.

Crouch really has surprised me ...

Crouch.The new Scillachi!

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I seem to remember you didn't think Crouch's first of the season was his goal either, however the dubious goals committee confirmed it was indeed his and wasn't an own goal. This one isn't even debatable.

If his first one, was the one against Wigan I still dont think it should be his goal because if he hadnt of come off the defender it wouldnt have looped up and in....

I firmly believe that if its the defenders touch that beats the keeper then its an own goal.

Crouchs one against Wigan, it was the deflection of the defender which put the ball on target and in the goal....my opinion own goal.

Crouch flicks it on towards goal, it is going wide or at best towards the two defenders standing by the post. 99 times out of 100 the defender will boot that clear. Defender slices it which takes it away from the keeper, under him and into the net. My opinion also own goal.

If Crouch is being credited with 'his first' why isnt Beckham getting credited with Englands second? Why is that one an own goal but the 2nd one isnt  :?

Well simply because Crouch's shot was on target, Beckham's free kick wasn't on target, it was a cross.


Believe it all you want but that's not what the rules say. If that was in the rules then yes it would be an own goal but it's not so it wasn't. Pointless arguing.

Crouchs shot wasnt on target though....he hit a defender....that isnt on target



Well, then the rules are stupid....they were either both own goals or they both werent. Both times the last touch came from a defender....

Having just watched it again, Crouch's shot was going wide until it hit the defender, therefore it was an own goal. End of argument. He did well and should (will) start against Paraguay.

:roll: Watch closer, it was going in before it hit the defender and that's the real end of argument. Lineker, Wright, Shearer and Hansen all agreed it was going in and they can see all the angles and in slo0w motion..

I have a feeling Crouch is going to be one of those players who is average at best in League football but actually does better at International level.

I still think he is mostly useless as a footballer, but by god did they not know what to do with him.  i seem to spend half my time with hands in my heads following his involvement in a game and the other half wondering how on earth anyone can defend against him.  A bit like Bamber at STFC level.

He's earned a starting place for the Paraguay and T&T games.  Depends if he keeps in form for the Sweden game because they might be a bit better suited to dealing with him and a change in formation might work against a team who normally draw with us.

He's not average at league level though. Crouch's form over the last couple of games hasn't surprised me at all because if you've watched him play for Liverpool without pre-judging him then you know he's been doing exactly the same week in week out for them. He's been one of the key players for the team who finished 3rd in the premiership and also helped them win the fa cup. And he did the same last season for Southampton.

Paraguay may have a tough time dealing with Crouch, Trinidad and Tobago have a defender who's about 6'7" himself so might be able to cope better. Sweden have said they're worried about playing against him. I think he should start in all the group games and then after that depends on Rooney's fitness and who we're playing.

I've seen him play enough games at League level to not really rate him as an International class player (not as a World beater anyway).  He has produced much better displays for England than at club level (maybe the benefit of having someone like Owen with him? which he doesn't get for Liverpool).

I don't doubt he can have an impact, and hasn't been a useless waste of space in the past 2 seasons.  However, given the choice there would be quite a few players I'd take in the league over him, but strangely I think he just hits it off for England in a different way.

I always thought Platt was another player who seemed much better for England than for his clubs (to me anyway).

Crouchs strength is difference. Every defence regularly comes up against the standard strikers, (the quick ones, the ones built like brick out houses) but Crouch is not a regular striker, which is where he gets his effectiveness from. Good to see him hitting the net though and can only be a good thing leading into the world cup.

Not sure if this has been mentioned as I've only read the thread to Mex's post.  But to back up Mex a result from last week -

Ghana 4 Jamaica 1

Says it all really.  Fair play though gives the players and the management a bit of pre tournament confidence.

Ghana aren't a bad team. Worth noting also, USA 1 - Jamaica 1 a couple of months back and USA are ranked higher than England according to FIFA whilst Jamaica are ranked above Trinidad and Tobago.

Groan.I think we read way too much into friendlies.If we lose them we're shit and if we win them we're brilliant.

For the world cup the results of these friendlies doesn't really matter but one thing is clear, Scotland wouldn't be able to beat them.

Not sure what relevance Scotland is to this thread, from all the bitching going on about "why don't Scots support England?" in the media recently, I'd say you're fuelling the Scots arguements.  I make a comment about Jamaica's recent performances and you talk about Scotland?  Strange.

For what it's worth I'd be extremely confident that Scotland could beat Jamaica, at home, with little hardship.

I reckon Scotland would give England a good run for their money at the moment

Wouldn't say that just yet Si-pie, maybe in a couple of years, but it's a rather large maybe!!

Having said that if Northern Ireland can give you a fair game, I'd say any one has a chance.

Just a bit of England/Scotland rivalry. Perhaps Scotland would beat Jamaica who knows, I wouldn't fancy them to beat England though.

Northern Ireland scraped a victory but they didn't reall outplay England.

I never said Scotland would beat England Jan, just that they would give it a good go. If things stay on course for you I think you'll be qualifying for the tourneys in the next few years.

thats all bollocks if you ask me, and yet another exapmle of the english media being retarded and out of touch with common opinion.  

I dont want scottish support for England, in fact I just dont care what the scots are thinking about our side. I suspect a large majortiy of English fans agree with me.

Scotland are rivals, and I dont expect their support just bgecause they are out of the competition.

I dont support city or oxford if we are out of the FA cup and they are still in so dont see why international football should be any different really.

Spot On!  8)

I don't expect Scottish people to support England, some Welsh people do though, it's a bit different for them as they never qualify for anything.

I'd like to see England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland all at the world cup just for a bit of local rivalry although I'd only be supporting England.

yeah, I'd like to see all the home nations qualify too.

then all go home without scoring a goal apart from england!

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We are in agreement gentleman!! (Except PM's final comment)

I often use the Oxford arguement when people go on about that subject, rivalry at club standard is acceptable yet at national level it's not??

Well to be honest I don't know that many english lads want Germany to win when they're playing.  Football's all about rivalry, long may it continue.