Title: Iffy, treated badly? Post by: DMR on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 11:56:41 I don't think he has in honesty, here's why;
He was given the job and no doubt the objective to keep us up, and until February he'd made a reasonable fist of it but no-one can dispute he fucked up badly. At the end of the day he played as bigger part in us going down as the players, and any manager whose not completely naive must expect to have his job considered when you get relegated. And forget the media spin... Yeah the board came out and said they're behind him but no club ever actively says their managers on their way out do they? "Oh Iffy's here unless we find someone better?" The truth is it never gets said in public but I bet 90% of clubs feel the same way about their manager Looking at it another way, yeah he might not have been treated brilliantly but every other person sacked in football has it the same way. Fuck me, the club even offered him a new position at STFC, he chose to walk away. (shamelessly copied and pasted from L&P, sorry) Title: Iffy, treated badly? Post by: Spud on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 12:04:56 I don't think he's been treated badly, he couldnt seriously expect to keep the job when there were better options out there.
I wish Iffy all the best for the future. Title: Re: Iffy, treated badly? Post by: Batch on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 12:05:12 Quote from: "dave_m_russell" . Fuck me, the club even offered him a new position at STFC, he chose to walk away. How do you know that ? Title: Iffy, treated badly? Post by: DMR on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 12:07:20 Thats what it says on the BBC page anyway
Title: Iffy, treated badly? Post by: strooood on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 12:12:25 i agree with dave.
perhaps he's been treated badly but its nothing new in football. if iffy had come in when he did and won every game and won us the playoffs no doubt he would be linked and maybe approached by other clubs. people would then have been saying "dont stand in his way to better himself blah blah blah" and im pretty sure also that iffy would have taken any such oppurtunity without a second thought. fact is, he was/is pretty shit. yeah he's young and doesnt really know what he's doing yet but i dont really fancy the gamble of him cutting his managerial teeth when we're only one season away from non league. therefore i dont see a problem with him being given the boot, he's hardly done anything to merit another crack at the whip. for the record i think wise will be a disaster and think he'll be gone by christmas. but it's all very exciting so i dont really want to think about that. Title: Re: Iffy, treated badly? Post by: jim on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 12:32:03 Quote from: "dave_m_russell" At the end of the day he played as bigger part in us going down as the players. Good grief! Given up on English as a subject, have you, Dave? Title: Iffy, treated badly? Post by: Red Chris on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 12:34:13 See you in KFC, Greenbridge, Iffy :soapy tit wank:
Title: Iffy, treated badly? Post by: DMR on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 12:35:00 I can only reiterate that I am a man of Literature jim, not this fancy Language lark.
Title: Iffy, treated badly? Post by: yeo on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 12:50:12 Of course he was treated badly.
Its not the fact that he was let go its the hollow promises and lies that Devlin and Power spouted.If they didnt want him to stay why say that they did?Shows a lack of class in my opinion. Title: Iffy, treated badly? Post by: DMR on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 12:51:36 Show me one example of a club who publicly stated they were on lookout for someone new while the current boss was at the helm.
Title: Iffy, treated badly? Post by: Batch on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 12:53:43 Quote from: "Yeovil Red" Of course he was treated badly. Its not the fact that he was let go its the hollow promises and lies that Devlin and Power spouted.If they didnt want him to stay why say that they did?Shows a lack of class in my opinion. Yes it was handled dodgily, although even Mrs Batch thought that those noises were the dreaded vote of confidence. I'm proud she is learning so fast now.... WDP state that SSW/JW overruled Power, Devlin and Diamondis on Iffy. And the Wills family hold all the cards. http://www.westpress.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=150309&command=displayContent&sourceNode=150308&contentPK=14492994&folderPk=76224 Title: Iffy, treated badly? Post by: yeo on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 12:58:48 Quote from: "dave_m_russell" Show me one example of a club who publicly stated they were on lookout for someone new while the current boss was at the helm. Not really the point why say 'I want Iffy to finish the job he has started' if you dont mean it? Its bad manners just say nothing. Title: Iffy, treated badly? Post by: larwood on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 13:39:09 Quote I don't think he's been treated badly, he couldnt seriously expect to keep the job when there were better options out there. I wish Iffy all the best for the future. :nod: Title: Iffy, treated badly? Post by: fatbury on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 14:01:45 He had his chance .. he messed up ... I mean .. MCPHEE???
Title: Iffy, treated badly? Post by: barry on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 14:06:40 garry iz ring me an tell me dat swindon iz gettin dennis waterman as the new manager. i tink dat dis is ace news, i av watch sum of me dads sweeney videos and day is grate an he must of learn a few tricks off arthur daley and dave from da winchester club. I iz feel a bit sorry for iffy, i iz big up his ass i iz even av a cactus named after im but at da end of da day managers and playaz iz cum an go it iz us loyal sppurters who remane.
Title: Iffy, treated badly? Post by: Sippo on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 14:23:22 All football managers have it rough. Everyone knows football's a harsh game emoticions wise. Tough shit. You know what its like before you start the job, so if you don't like being shit on from a great height when things go wrong then don't do it. End of.
Title: Iffy, treated badly? Post by: red macca on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 14:47:33 Quote from: "Yeovil Red" Of course he was treated badly. sir eton wills wanted iffy out,devlin and power were prepared to give him a chanvceIts not the fact that he was let go its the hollow promises and lies that Devlin and Power spouted.If they didnt want him to stay why say that they did?Shows a lack of class in my opinion. Title: Iffy, treated badly? Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 14:59:14 I don't think he's been treated badly, Devlin when questioned on here simply said his position would be reviewed at the end of the season - that's exactly what happened. The decision may have been a bit sudden but he can't say it's completely unexpected.
Title: Iffy, treated badly? Post by: larwood on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 14:59:52 Er,Barry,no offence like but i can't even be bothered to read what you've put.I don't do text speak love :(
Title: Iffy, treated badly? Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 15:01:51 Quote from: "larwood" Er,Barry,no offence like but i can't even be bothered to read what you've put.I don't do text speak love :( Barry's views are insightful and well worth a read. We shouldn't discrimnate against those who are a bit more liberal with their grammer. Title: Iffy, treated badly? Post by: larwood on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 15:08:15 Well sorry to Barry who i'm sure is a lovely lad with interesting things to say, but i can't be bothered,i'm too old,text speak makes me feel ill :oops:
Title: Iffy, treated badly? Post by: Red Chris on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 15:51:53 What a twat Barry why not invest some time in English lessons?
Title: Iffy, treated badly? Post by: sonic youth on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 15:56:25 if this was any other occupation, i'd agree that iffy was treated badly - but this is football.
clearly the club were presented with the opportunity to bring in someone of wise's calibre and it's not something they could turn down, especially just because of a sense of loyalty to a manager who took us down. i like iffy and wouldn't have been disappointed to see him still in charge next season but wise is the best option for the club in my eyes, so long and thanks for all the fish iffy. Title: Iffy, treated badly? Post by: DV on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 15:57:29 of course he was treated badly, this is a shambles...publically backing the manager then getting a replacement in while Iffy is on holiday (I think?!)
Iffy was doing well on the pitch, although this has been done to death the board shouldnt have sold our top scorer in January.....footballing suicide and if anyone expected us to stay up after that, then in my opinion they were very deluded.... Title: Iffy, treated badly? Post by: sonic youth on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 15:59:05 Quote from: "DV85" publically backing the manager then getting a replacement in happens all the time though. the vote of confidence and all that, few weeks later they get sacked. anyone else just see iffy on sky sports news? Title: Iffy, treated badly? Post by: Luci on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 16:00:03 No most of us are at work :mrgreen:
What did he say??? Title: Iffy, treated badly? Post by: sonic youth on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 16:01:40 you rang me from the county ground yesterday, you weren't at work then
his comments were more or less the same as on our website, he wasn't expecting this and as far as he was aware the club were fully behind him and he was planning for next season. Title: Iffy, treated badly? Post by: larwood on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 16:09:49 Quote if this was any other occupation, i'd agree that iffy was treated badly - but this is football Its the fact that now for better or worse football is now a business and as such hard decisions have to be taken.I like Iffy BUT Wise is a bigger name who will generate more interest from casual fans and will hopefully be able to get better players in too. Title: Iffy, treated badly? Post by: Luci on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 16:11:30 Quote from: "sonic youth" you rang me from the county ground yesterday, you weren't at work then his comments were more or less the same as on our website, he wasn't expecting this and as far as he was aware the club were fully behind him and he was planning for next season. Shhhhhhhhhh........I was investigating :wink: Title: Iffy, treated badly? Post by: DMR on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 17:24:13 Quote from: "Red Chris" What a twat Barry why not invest some time in English lessons? You are truly a twat Title: Iffy, treated badly? Post by: Red Chris on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 17:34:23 What do you find that on fat boy?
Title: Iffy, treated badly? Post by: DMR on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 17:35:48 Perhaps you should take some English lessons yourself.
Clearly you don't read Barry's posts. Specialist. Title: Iffy, treated badly? Post by: Red Chris on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 17:39:05 Yes okay then dave_m_russell whatever you say, prick :wink:
Title: Iffy, treated badly? Post by: DMR on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 17:40:52 You're not very good at this are you?
Token :wink: Title: Iffy, treated badly? Post by: Melksham Red on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 17:41:07 Who gives a shit if he was treated badly. Fucking good job I say, after the shit we've had to put up with watching week in week out.
Title: Iffy, treated badly? Post by: Red Chris on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 17:43:00 Quote from: "dave_m_russell" You're not very good at this are you? Token :wink: :soapy tit wank: Title: Iffy, treated badly? Post by: Melksham Red on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 18:11:54 I'm hoping Alan Reeves will be treated badly soon. Along with half of the squad. Fuck stability. I want people who are gunna get the job done.
Title: Iffy, treated badly? Post by: my-velocity on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 18:15:03 I bet Willie Carosn wasn't at the board meeting plannig out next season and appointing a new manager. Fucking dickhead.
Title: Iffy, treated badly? Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 18:15:43 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:
Title: Iffy, treated badly? Post by: my-velocity on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 18:40:37 :oops:
Title: Iffy, treated badly? Post by: Reeves for King on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 20:19:16 I think the way in which the Board have conducted themselves has just proved how badly they run this football club. You can't tell Iffy one week that he is statying then give him the boot the next.
Title: Iffy, treated badly? Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 21:36:58 I disagree, the board have acted fine. This kind of thing happens all the time at every club, we got relegated and the board said Iffy's position would be reviewed but at the time they thought there was a good chance he'd stay but Sir Seton wanted someone higher profile and I say fair play to him.
To be honest with Power and Devlin here now, we probably have a better board than we've had in as long as I can remember. (Not saying much but still we could do a lot worse.) Title: Iffy, treated badly? Post by: red macca on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 21:38:50 Quote from: "Reeves for King" I think the way in which the Board have conducted themselves has just proved how badly they run this football club. You can't tell Iffy one week that he is statying then give him the boot the next. could you please provide me with the link where they said he was staying??they offered him a role to stay he turned it downTitle: Iffy, treated badly? Post by: janaage on Friday, May 19, 2006, 08:11:12 Iffy was on Radio Swindon yesterday saying he was offered another role but he didn't want to be a t the club under a new manager.
On the was he treated badly issue - no he wasn't. He was given a job to do, keep us in League 1 and he failed. How many times in the last week when people posted "end of speculation" posts about Iffy, did we read the actual article and see that MD and BP had made very open comments with nothing definitive about Iffy's future, if Iffy couldn't see that, then he is not the intelligent man that most supporters suggest that he is. Title: Iffy, treated badly? Post by: Batch on Friday, May 19, 2006, 08:31:16 Quote from: "janaage" , if Iffy couldn't see that, then he is not the intelligent man that most supporters suggest that he is. Quote from: "I I Ifffy" "I am not bitter, but there was an element of doubt once the season had come to an end. There was an offer to keep me at the club, but in reality the new manager will want to look at the club from the bottom up and he wouldn't want the former manager sitting in the wings." |