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Title: champions league final
Post by: sonic youth on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 16:54:53
arsenal are going to get dicked, fact


Title: champions league final
Post by: Kinky Tom on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 16:56:21
Now way.  3-1  to the Goooooners!


Title: champions league final
Post by: Arriba on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 16:57:17
2-0 arsenal


Title: champions league final
Post by: manc red on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 17:01:42
1-1 then the arse on pens


Title: champions league final
Post by: STFC Village on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 17:11:17
3-0 Barca at half time, 3-3 at full time, Arsenal win 3-2 on penalties. Anything less and i'll be disappointed


Title: champions league final
Post by: my-velocity on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 17:34:32
2-1 arsenal


Title: champions league final
Post by: yeo on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 17:36:02
0-0 at full time.

a goal each in extra time and a penalties win for Barca

Come on Barca...


Title: champions league final
Post by: manc red on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 18:16:07
Arsenal: Lehmann, Eboue, Toure, Campbell, Cole, Ljungberg, Hleb, Gilberto, Fabregas, Pires, Henry.

Barcelona: Valdes, Oleguer, Puyol, Marquez, Van Bronckhorst, Edmilson, Van Bommel, Deco, Giuly, Ronaldinho, Eto'o.


Title: champions league final
Post by: Dazzza on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 18:20:38
Fucking tough call, I'd say Barcelona but feel if Arsenal take the lead and can hold off the battery before extra time kicks in they'll sneak it.

If it hits extra time it's Barca all the way.


Title: champions league final
Post by: sonic youth on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 18:34:54
if i wasn't a pauper i'd put a fiver on arsenal losing 3-0


Title: champions league final
Post by: SwindonTownFC on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 18:39:35
really hard to call this one, just hope it a cracking game, i fancy Reyes to come of the bench to grab the winner


Title: champions league final
Post by: ibelieveinmrreeves on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 19:28:29
Well, it's started well...


Title: champions league final
Post by: STFC Village on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 19:37:12
What a first half :o


Title: champions league final
Post by: el duque on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 19:41:27
Jammy bastards Arsenal... If the ref hadn't been so hasty, he would have allowed played to continue and they would have been one nil down.

Still. Good on them. Didn't want them to win to start with, but after seeing that unsportsmanlike git from Barca (didn't see who) lobbying the ref to give a red card (which wasn't even necessary... it was a no-brainer), then I'd like nothing better than an Arsenal win...

Steady on there, having considered it for a second I'd probably settle for a free beer and a Barca win.


Title: champions league final
Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 20:18:39
I don't really care to be honest, shame they can't both lose.


Title: champions league final
Post by: ibelieveinmrreeves on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 20:34:09
Well it's all gone the shape of a pear.

And I wish that cunt Tydsledale (or however you spell it) would shut the fuck up.  I would mute it but my dad's watching as well.


Title: champions league final
Post by: reeves4england on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 20:47:34
I think it went pear-shaped when they went down to ten men against one of the best sides in the world to be honest


Title: champions league final
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 20:49:35
great interview by Henry afterwards though, well the one on sky sports anyway....


Title: champions league final
Post by: yeo on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 20:50:09
I didnt celebrate when Barca scored...

just had a snidey cackle :D


Title: champions league final
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 20:50:19
Quote from: "Ben Wah Balls"
I don't really care to be honest, shame they can't both lose.


yeah, its a shame they cant just hand it to Chelsea isnt it


Title: champions league final
Post by: STFC Village on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 20:52:50
Quote from: "DV85"
great interview by Henry afterwards though, well the one on sky sports anyway....
I think he'll stay with Arsenal now \o/


Title: champions league final
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 20:54:18
Quote from: "STFC Village"
Quote from: "DV85"
great interview by Henry afterwards though, well the one on sky sports anyway....
I think he'll stay with Arsenal now \o/


yeah...they were words of passion....spot on as well though.....sad thing is he will get fined for that.....why, its the damn truth


Title: champions league final
Post by: yeo on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 20:55:21
what did he say?


Title: champions league final
Post by: STFC Village on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 20:57:46
Ref was shit/cheat, Ronaldinho and Eto'o were shit, Larsson hero. Spot on Terry


Title: champions league final
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 20:58:35
said he got kicked all over the place, but didnt get any free kicks because he isnt a girl and doesnt dive on the floor  :D


Title: champions league final
Post by: Sade on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 21:09:30
To be fair, neither side were better than the other. Both played extremely well and barca pushed at the end to get two goals so good on them.

Tierry is such an amazing player, as is l'burg. Their keeper that came on did well too.

All that crying shit did my head in at the end though. Ponces.


Title: champions league final
Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 21:19:43
Quote from: "DV85"
Quote from: "Ben Wah Balls"
I don't really care to be honest, shame they can't both lose.


yeah, its a shame they cant just hand it to Chelsea isnt it
I'd have liked to have seen Liverpool win again this year, though Chelsea would be worthy winners.

Shame for Arsenal. Still, what goes around comes around.


Title: champions league final
Post by: Devon Red on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 22:08:14
I hate barcelona and ronaldinho. He's so over rated it's unbelievable. I admit he's a good player but people talk about him as though he can do no wrong and is a god. He has been terrible for the last couple of games in the champions league and done fuck all for 89 minutes per game. Tonight when he was 12 yards out and hes balloned it miles wide trying to be too clever. PLAY A FUCKING SIMPLE BALL YOU CUNT!

Rant over............for now :D


Title: champions league final
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 22:14:55
Quote from: "Ben Wah Balls"

what goes around comes around.


Can anyone actually explain exactly what that means?


Title: champions league final
Post by: Kinky Tom on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 22:15:03
Quote from: "Ben Wah Balls"
Quote from: "DV85"
Quote from: "Ben Wah Balls"
I don't really care to be honest, shame they can't both lose.


yeah, its a shame they cant just hand it to Chelsea isnt it
I'd have liked to have seen Liverpool win again this year, though Chelsea would be worthy winners.

Shame for Arsenal. Still, what goes around comes around.


How could Chelski be worthy winners when they got knocked out a while ago?

The player trying to get the ref to get his cards out was Edmilson - a defender - meaning he had to run from his own half to the edge of Arsenal's box.  In my eyes that's worth a booking in itself!


Title: champions league final
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 22:21:02
BWB - My previous reply got lost on the previous page so here we go again.

What exactly does 'What goes around comes around' mean?

1. In general - I've never really understood what the hell it means.

2. In particular - How does it apply to Arsenal?


Title: champions league final
Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 22:21:25
Quote from: "OOH!  SHAUN TAYLOR"
Quote from: "Ben Wah Balls"

what goes around comes around.


Can anyone actually explain exactly what that means?
In this case I'm just taking the piss as it's what Fatbury said when Arsenal finished above Spurs. Fuck knows what he meant.


Title: champions league final
Post by: Kinky Tom on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 22:25:01
Yeah well fuck knows what Fats means in any of his posts. :shrug:


Title: champions league final
Post by: sonic youth on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 22:25:17
ok i was wrong, pretty decent game though.

barca are fucking quality it has to be said.


Title: champions league final
Post by: Dazzza on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 22:26:02
Unlucky that for the Arse, I thought they may just have had it in sight tonight and then Barca scored.

Second goal was always guaranteed but a slight shame it was lucky effort, Arse could probably have seen a bit more opportunity on the counter at 1-1.  As soon as that second effort went in Barca sat back and took the piss in the possession stakes.

Ref was all over the place as well nothing to much in the way of a major faux par but a bit fucked all the same.

Finally, good to see twinkle toes pair Sol and Cole both have solid games tonight.


Title: champions league final
Post by: Devon Red on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 22:26:35
Just curious as to why so many people wanted barca to win? Dont want to start an argument but surely them being an english team (english fans) means u want them to win?


Title: champions league final
Post by: Spud on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 22:31:27
Barca would have beaten any side in Europe tonight even Swindon.  :shock:


Title: champions league final
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 22:32:06
I personally wanted the Arse to win, I love that Anglo/French man love thing they have going on. I think they are cool. I also think Terry Henry is the coolest man on the planet.

Also, I am not the biggest fan of Cole or Campbell but they were both excellent tonight - FACT!


Title: champions league final
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 22:34:04
Quote from: "Spuddy_STFC"
Barca would have beaten any side in Europe tonight even Swindon.  :shock:


Easy tiger :wink:


Title: champions league final
Post by: sonic youth on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 22:39:14
i don't like barca cos i'm a plastic real madrid 'glory supporter' but i don't see why people shoul dget behind arsenal because they're english.

if it was chelsea or liverpool, i'd feel differently as they've got more of an english core but arsenal's team is just full of players from france and their colonies


Title: champions league final
Post by: Devon Red on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 22:40:17
Quote from: "sonic youth"
i don't like barca cos i'm a plastic real madrid 'glory supporter' but i don't see why people shoul dget behind arsenal because they're english.

if it was chelsea or liverpool, i'd feel differently as they've got more of an english core but arsenal's team is just full of players from france and their colonies
I see what you're saying but they've still got english supporters and thats what makes a club


Title: champions league final
Post by: Spud on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 22:42:55
Quote from: "sonic youth"
i don't like barca cos i'm a plastic real madrid 'glory supporter' but i don't see why people shoul dget behind arsenal because they're english.

if it was chelsea or liverpool, i'd feel differently as they've got more of an english core but arsenal's team is just full of players from france and their colonies


Liverpool only had 2 English players in their side last season.


Title: champions league final
Post by: sonic youth on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 22:44:34
yeah but they're white  :D


Title: champions league final
Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 23:07:40
Liverpool didn't have many English players and I would have preferred they had more when they won but their success was built upon their key player and captain Gerrard who is English and another of their key players Carragher was also English. Arsenal in the champions league have often had a team with no English players at all.


Title: champions league final
Post by: oxford_fan on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 23:19:21
the ref was abysmal, if only he'd waited a second to see the advantage it would have been an even better match probably.

thierry was steaming in the post-match interview, wouldn't be the least bit surprised if he got a fine for that.

as daz says, asher c and sol looked good though, which is good news for england.

thierry was off to a flyer though (although he should have put a chance away), thats got to be his last match in an arsenal shirt. and how pissed off was pires at losing his final too!?


Title: champions league final
Post by: sonic youth on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 23:30:40
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41656000/jpg/_41656650_arsenal_fan_crying203.jpg

CUNT


Title: champions league final
Post by: oxford_fan on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 23:36:02
Quote from: "Ben Wah Balls"
Arsenal in the champions league have often had a team with no English players at all.
only because cole and campbell were injured though, you can't really hold that against them.

and its not as though chelsea, your gold standard, are flush with english talent. there's terry, lampard....sometimes cole


Title: champions league final
Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 23:58:28
Chelsea aren't my gold standard but again their two key players are English and Cole is an important player too. Liverpool and Chelsea both have an English core,  even with Campbell and Cole Arsenal's key player is still Henry. This is another reason I like Spurs, most of their team is Engish.


Title: champions league final
Post by: Batch on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 07:09:20
Arse, Barsa, Larssa.

Arsenal had the chances to win the match despite only having 10. Well played but not much of a consolation.

Barca Goofy and Greedy were reasonably quiet (Ronaldinho & Eto'o). Some of there players were a disgrace with the card waving and amature dramatics. But we knew that already.

Larsson changed the game with 2 bits of quality.

The ref was out of his depth. The red card was fair but a better ref would have allowed play to go on and yellowed Lehman. It's all well and good spreading the ref tasks between UEFA countries, but some of those countries don't have the big matches. No suprise the refs are shit when they come into a big game then....


Title: champions league final
Post by: Whits on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 07:13:10
Quote

Barca Goofy and Greedy were reasonably quiet (Ronaldinho & Eto'o). Some of there players were a disgrace with the card waving and amature dramatics. But we knew that already.


don't forget eboue's dive for arsenal in the first half was quite amazing  :wink:


Title: champions league final
Post by: fatbury on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 07:14:28
naturally im gutted ... I think Henry will go .. but if he goes to Barca he will look bloody stupid now

So maybe its Madrid?


Title: champions league final
Post by: Batch on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 08:30:28
Yes Whits, the ref was crap for both teams and Arsenal were not blameless. Just hate all the running up to the ref and waving cards rubbish.


Title: champions league final
Post by: McLovin on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 08:33:44
I love this result. I really do.


Title: champions league final
Post by: janaage on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 10:06:36
Isn't it great to see Wenger and Henry crying about the ref.  He disallowed a perfectly good Barca goal (and gave them a free kick), then gave you a free kick for nothing, from which you scored.  Then you say the goals were offside, which they weren't.

I fucking hate those whinging french wankers.


Title: champions league final
Post by: timmyg on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 10:21:25
The ref WAS bad. Not for either side in particular I don't think, but simply incompetant. As mentioned above he was out of his depth.

I thought the red card was fair (although he really should have given the goal) and that Eboue should have been booked for at least one of his collapses/dives.

The Barca players waving imaginary cards were fucking crap. I hate when they do that. And they did it alot. Arsenal's Lauren recieved a second booking for doing that in a game earlier this year/last year. The defender fella ran the legth of the pitch to do it too!

Arsenal weren't outclassed and in fact created the better chances even with 10. If they had manged to put away one of those second half chances it would have been all over.

And the equaliser was offside.

Cole and Campbell were very good.

Ronaldinho was rubbish.


Title: champions league final
Post by: janaage on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 10:21:42
Chim Chimenee
Chim Chimenee
Chim Chim Cheroo
Nayim from 50
Belletti from 2

from a spurs fan at work.


Title: champions league final
Post by: janaage on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 10:24:57
I don't think the equaliser was offside, looked level to me.


Title: champions league final
Post by: FlashGordon on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 10:38:10
Quote from: "janaage"
Chim Chimenee
Chim Chimenee
Chim Chim Cheroo
Nayim from 50
Belletti from 2

from a spurs fan at work.



 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: champions league final
Post by: oxford_fan on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 11:18:28
Quote from: "Ben Wah Balls"
Chelsea aren't my gold standard but again their two key players are English and Cole is an important player too. Liverpool and Chelsea both have an English core,  even with Campbell and Cole Arsenal's key player is still Henry. This is another reason I like Spurs, most of their team is Engish.
aah so its not about number of english players its about their position? or if they are 'core'?

i don't know how campbell and cole at the back could have been more 'core'. henry did little after the opening bit and the two english players (cole in particular) were on top form.

liverpool have 3 english starters (carragher, gerrard, crouch), chelsea 2/3. they're all as bad as each other in that respect.

take the blinkers off, its fucking boring.


Title: champions league final
Post by: DMR on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 11:21:05
Whats everyone poncing about the ref for?

2 big calls- Lehman HAD to go and thus a Barca goal was ruled out... and Arsenal's goal should not stand because it was cheating.

Suits Arsenal if you ask me.


Title: champions league final
Post by: DMR on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 11:22:21
Oh and Eboue should have walked for booting that chappy in the thigh.


Title: champions league final
Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 14:48:40
Quote from: "oxford_fan"
Quote from: "Ben Wah Balls"
Chelsea aren't my gold standard but again their two key players are English and Cole is an important player too. Liverpool and Chelsea both have an English core,  even with Campbell and Cole Arsenal's key player is still Henry. This is another reason I like Spurs, most of their team is Engish.
aah so its not about number of english players its about their position? or if they are 'core'?

i don't know how campbell and cole at the back could have been more 'core'. henry did little after the opening bit and the two english players (cole in particular) were on top form.

liverpool have 3 english starters (carragher, gerrard, crouch), chelsea 2/3. they're all as bad as each other in that respect.

take the blinkers off, its fucking boring.


I'm not just talking about last night and I don't think you get what I mean by core I mean Chelsea and Liverpool have English captains and vice captains, they have foreign players but unlike Arsenal they never field entirely foreign teams.

Fowler often starts for Liverpool too so both Liverpool and Chelsea have 4 regular starters as Wright Phillips started 15 times last year.

I'd prefer Liverpool and Chelsea had more English players too, I think it's good for English football for the English players to be playing at the best English clubs.


Title: champions league final
Post by: Spud on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 16:05:18
Personally i couldnt give a fuck about how many English players are playing for a side, if Swindon had 11 Foreigners and were successful then it wouldnt bother me, although neither is going to happen.


Title: champions league final
Post by: el duque on Thursday, May 18, 2006, 20:06:13
Moaning about the ref being poor was very disappointing from Henry. He should have conducted the interview with a bit of dignity.

Everyone saw the game, and saw how bad the ref was. He didn't need to go on and on about it, or even mention it once...


Title: champions league final
Post by: McLovin on Friday, May 19, 2006, 07:51:28
Now Eto'o was offside, apparently. Methinks he's floundering to cover up the fact he missed 2 simple chances on the big stage...


Title: champions league final
Post by: red macca on Friday, May 19, 2006, 07:55:35
eto was offside..but your right henry should concentrate on his own performance not the refs


Title: champions league final
Post by: STFC Village on Friday, May 19, 2006, 09:16:24
Quote from: "STFC Village"
Quote from: "DV85"
great interview by Henry afterwards though, well the one on sky sports anyway....
I think he'll stay with Arsenal now \o/
Set to sign a 4 year deal...

http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=388363&CPID=8&clid=3&lid=4161&title=Henry+decides+to+keep+on+Gunning


Title: champions league final
Post by: red macca on Friday, May 19, 2006, 09:18:59
can only be good for english football..although i think eto is better than henry and that goofy chap


Title: champions league final
Post by: SwindonTownFC on Friday, May 19, 2006, 09:21:08
Quote from: "red macca"
can only be good for english football..although i think eto is better than henry and that goofy chap


Fuck off is Eto'o better than Henry & Ronaldinho


Title: champions league final
Post by: red macca on Friday, May 19, 2006, 09:22:18
my opinion mate..you fuck off :D  :D


Title: champions league final
Post by: SwindonTownFC on Friday, May 19, 2006, 09:23:19
well its fact he isnt, hence Ronaldinho being world player of the year  :soapy tit wank:


Title: champions league final
Post by: red macca on Friday, May 19, 2006, 09:26:45
fair enough,,myself i prefer to go for facts aswell like GOALS have alook and see who has been more effective for barca this season with his goals and assists..did you know this season is the first season that goofy has ever got into double figures,and until henry does it in big big games and away from home ,my opinion will not be changed


Title: champions league final
Post by: SwindonTownFC on Friday, May 19, 2006, 09:29:56
Eto'o plays up top on his own and Ronaldinho plays left wing, so Eto'o expected to score more goals


Title: champions league final
Post by: STFC Village on Friday, May 19, 2006, 09:30:37
Quote from: "red macca"
fair enough,,myself i prefer to go for facts aswell like GOALS have alook and see who has been more effective for barca this season with his goals and assists..did you know this season is the first season that goofy has ever got into double figures,and until henry does it in big big games and away from home ,my opinion will not be changed
Ronaldinho is not a striker, therefore isn't expected to get many goals, so it isn't fair to rate him on goals alone. I'm sure his assist tally is alot higher. Henry has the highest goals-to-games ratio in any of the top divisions in Europe this season (according to Soccer AM). Personally, i'd say Henry is the World's best player


Title: champions league final
Post by: red macca on Friday, May 19, 2006, 09:36:41
i see what your both saying. i suppose all 3 could be classed as the best at what they do,,goofy with his tricks ,,henrys team play and eto is  better at getting goals


Title: champions league final
Post by: SwindonTownFC on Friday, May 19, 2006, 09:38:11
Do u have some sort of homosexual love for Eto'o?? in my book hes behind Henry Ronaldinho & Shevchenko


Title: champions league final
Post by: red macca on Friday, May 19, 2006, 09:43:10
i watch alot of spanish football .i just think he is as good as these players you mention his goal record speaks for itself,ronaldinho is a great player to watch i agree and henry is also a great player who scores goals,,but what im saying is when it matters eto seems to be the one who constantly gets the goals,we saw the difference the other night between the two players..


Title: champions league final
Post by: SwindonTownFC on Friday, May 19, 2006, 09:45:18
Eto'o has been immense last few seasons no doubting that and id put him in the top 5 in the world just not ahead of the few i mentioned


Title: champions league final
Post by: red macca on Friday, May 19, 2006, 09:47:02
well i would :D he,s better than pele


Title: champions league final
Post by: SwindonTownFC on Friday, May 19, 2006, 09:48:13
yeah i think your right, that pele fella was so so over rated  :D


Title: champions league final
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, May 19, 2006, 10:09:08
There is this film out soon (maybe now, dunno) about the New York Cosmos and the rise of American 'Soccer' in the 70's with Pele, Best, Marsh etc. There was a clip where Rodney Marsh was playing against Pele, and to wind him up he kept telling Pele how he was much better than him and calling him Peter!! Later in the match Marsh was taking the piss and Pele totally hacked him down for a penalty! The ref was going to send him off before he remembered it was Pele and the fans would have gone nuts had they sent him off!


Title: champions league final
Post by: fatbury on Friday, May 19, 2006, 10:16:59
obviously wasnt a Norweigan!


Title: champions league final
Post by: oxford_fan on Friday, May 19, 2006, 11:26:19
eto'o outshone all of his teammates, he was superb.


Title: champions league final
Post by: Simon Pieman on Friday, May 19, 2006, 12:00:24
Looks like Henry will be staying now as well


Title: champions league final
Post by: Bennett on Friday, May 19, 2006, 16:21:11
for four years!


Title: champions league final
Post by: adje on Saturday, May 20, 2006, 11:01:29
The reason Chelsea and Arsenal didn't win it is they have too many English players!


Title: champions league final
Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Saturday, May 20, 2006, 12:02:08
So how were Liverpool able to win it with more English players than Arsenal then? A number of the best players in the world are English - as shown by two of the top three in the last fifa world player of the year award being English.


Title: champions league final
Post by: sonic youth on Saturday, May 20, 2006, 16:42:32
i think you both missed the joke