Title: Dennis Wise Post by: glos_robin on Tuesday, May 16, 2006, 19:44:39 The Evening Standard apparently is announcing that Dennis Wise has been interviewed and is set to be announced as the new manager..........would explain the Wilkins visit etc
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: my-velocity on Tuesday, May 16, 2006, 19:48:19 :|
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: STFC Village on Tuesday, May 16, 2006, 19:53:13 :o Link?
If it is true, we could certainly do worse Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Spud on Tuesday, May 16, 2006, 19:54:10 I'd be quite happy with that but like all decent rumours i doubt its true. :(
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: glos_robin on Tuesday, May 16, 2006, 19:54:43 dunno mate on myonlyswindo they're saying it was actually in the paper tonight so not on the net yet. More than 1 person has seen the paper and pretty reliable posters so I'm pretty sure it's being reported
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: DV on Tuesday, May 16, 2006, 19:56:11 this one has done the rounds before
Title: Re: Dennis Wise Post by: manc red on Tuesday, May 16, 2006, 19:57:13 Quote from: "glos_robin" The Evening Standard apparently is announcing that Dennis Wise has been interviewed and is set to be announced as the new manager..........would explain the Wilkins visit etc sorry i missed that, when was it? Title: Dennis Wise Post by: glos_robin on Tuesday, May 16, 2006, 20:00:09 well people were banding it about at the hudds match that Wilkins had been seen (but then half the unemployed managers in the country were being said to be seen to)
But wilkins has definately visited the CG once or twice this season putting his own money in a bucket for the red army fund Title: Dennis Wise Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, May 16, 2006, 20:09:02 Quote from: "DV85" this one has done the rounds before Bit different if it's an actual article in a paper though, suggests more than just internet stupidity. Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Dazzza on Tuesday, May 16, 2006, 20:31:36 Could be an interesting twist especially with Wise down as the favourite to become the next QPR boss at one point.
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Tuesday, May 16, 2006, 20:36:45 wasn't Dennis Wise the supposed "favourite" to take over from King in october?
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, May 16, 2006, 20:37:59 Interesting that we seem to be an open managerial hunt again. Last time it wasn't obvious who was going to get the job must have been when McMahon got sacked and Quinn got appointed.
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: kaufman on Tuesday, May 16, 2006, 20:59:02 i fucking hate dennis wise but i fucking love ray wilkins
didn't wise leave millwall when they told him there was no money for him to buy players even though he had spent quite a bit already? it could be really good in some ways but i can't help feeling it could be mcmahon all over again (not the championship season of course) Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Tails on Tuesday, May 16, 2006, 21:40:26 Wise would be a quality player here.
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Danjackson10 on Tuesday, May 16, 2006, 22:19:52 http://www.swindon.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=18974
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, May 16, 2006, 22:27:03 Why is it not on the Evening Standard's website then?
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Danjackson10 on Tuesday, May 16, 2006, 22:27:29 i was looking at that si
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Danjackson10 on Tuesday, May 16, 2006, 22:34:22 I have had a look at a copy of todays evening standard and so far i can see sod all!
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: bigbobjoylove on Tuesday, May 16, 2006, 22:36:53 http://www.footballforums.net/forums/league-two/110259-swindons-new-manager.html
The Millwall fan on footballforums confirms it was in tonight's edition. Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Danjackson10 on Tuesday, May 16, 2006, 22:42:36 Right it is on the back page of the Evening Standard! I'll bring you the article in a bit!
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 16, 2006, 22:43:58 Not sure what to make of it really. I respected but hated him as a player and am not too sure about him as a manager. I'd be happier if Wilkins was part of the package. We'll see if and when it comes off.
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: sonic youth on Tuesday, May 16, 2006, 22:45:19 wise on his own - hmmm.
wise and wilkins - nice. wise as a player and wilkins - super-duper. Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Danjackson10 on Tuesday, May 16, 2006, 22:49:45 there cunting site keeps crashing!
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Dazzza on Tuesday, May 16, 2006, 22:49:49 http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/sport/
Stories are updated the following day so should be on the above in the morning, if true. Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Danjackson10 on Tuesday, May 16, 2006, 22:52:00 i got the article just cant read it cos its too small every time i zoom in the cunt crashes!
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 16, 2006, 22:53:13 Where did you get it from Danjackson10 ?
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Danjackson10 on Tuesday, May 16, 2006, 22:55:41 its a shit article!
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d144/Dan_jackson10/wiseart.jpg Title: Dennis Wise Post by: yeo on Tuesday, May 16, 2006, 22:56:59 I hope its not true I hate that little cunt with a passion.
Id burn my season ticket if i had one. If its true im not going again ever. Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 16, 2006, 23:01:18 Cheers DJ, the other rumour is Gus Poyet as assistant...
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Dazzza on Tuesday, May 16, 2006, 23:03:56 Quote from: "Batch" Cheers DJ, the other rumour is Gus Poyet as assistant... Where's that one come from? :D Gus Poyet, didn't rumours say we came close to signing him a couple of seasons back? Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Danjackson10 on Tuesday, May 16, 2006, 23:04:04 Quote from: "Batch" Cheers DJ, the other rumour is Gus Poyet as assistant... :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 16, 2006, 23:08:26 Thisis, so as unofficial 'friend of a friend' as possible
http://thisisstfc.co.uk/Forum%5FNew/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=28625 Quote OK guys, wether you beleive me or not is up to you lot- all im doing is passing on information here. I happen to liv near someone who works within the club, and they have just foned me and informed me that a deal is being hammered out that would see Dennis Wise and Gus Poyet installed as new manager and coach or summat. Personally im still sceptical, but if this happens then it would surely be great news? PS> Don't shoot the messenger. I'd be suprised if any of it turns out to be true! Title: Dennis Wise Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, May 16, 2006, 23:08:27 Didn't Gareth Davies twat Gus in a friendly, quickly followed by the ref recomending he should be subbed?
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: FlashGordon on Tuesday, May 16, 2006, 23:10:22 I fucking love Gus Poyet, he's a legend!! Would love to see him at the club even if its his first attempt at being in the 'lime light' of assistant manager (if its his first attempt?)
Good move in my opinion. Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Danjackson10 on Tuesday, May 16, 2006, 23:13:17 Is this one of those moves where it puts the club in the limelight without it actually being a good managerial choice! Is dennis Wise really any good as a manager!?
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, May 16, 2006, 23:21:29 Wise is a weird one, not something I was expecting. expanding what kaufman said, I can see a Mcmahon scenario, being good when the players are up for it but pretty crap when it get's hard.
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Dazzza on Tuesday, May 16, 2006, 23:32:20 You'd have to be a bit fucked off though if you were Iffy right now even if it is all rumours and snippets.
I've nothing against a wise appointment but does Dennis Wise meet the criteria laid out in the quotes in today’s WDP? When you compare the two Wise’s experience stretches not far off a season or so more games than Iffy’s. Someone like Holloway is perhaps understandable but it’s a bit of a like for like replacement in the managerial stakes except perhaps that Wise would probably prove to be a cracking to the playing squad. The great Raymundo seems to be a viable connection in both the ‘experienced helper’ stakes and the link with Wise and Bill Power’s old club QPR. Out of all of the connections so far his seems the most viable. Can’t complain at all mind it’s all interesting stuff and should prove to be an eventful week one way or another. Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Danjackson10 on Tuesday, May 16, 2006, 23:34:13 certainly looks like an interesting week!
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: red macca on Tuesday, May 16, 2006, 23:51:17 Quote from: "dazzza" You'd have to be a bit fucked off though if you were Iffy right now even if it is all rumours and snippets. wise has got to a fa cup final and played european football,he done very well at millwall until he was forced t o sell cahill,ifill and others then told he can not sign anyone to replace them..his knowledge of top flight football and international football will be superior to anything iffy has to offer im afraid and the contacts he probably has in the game can only be a good thingI've nothing against a wise appointment but does Dennis Wise meet the criteria laid out in the quotes in today’s WDP? When you compare the two Wise’s experience stretches not far off a season or so more games than Iffy’s. Someone like Holloway is perhaps understandable but it’s a bit of a like for like replacement in the managerial stakes except perhaps that Wise would probably prove to be a cracking to the playing squad. The great Raymundo seems to be a viable connection in both the ‘experienced helper’ stakes and the link with Wise and Bill Power’s old club QPR. Out of all of the connections so far his seems the most viable. Can’t complain at all mind it’s all interesting stuff and should prove to be an eventful weekone way or another. on the other hand iffy has helped to get the team relegated(not entirely his fault)oh and he got the youths to the youth cup final :roll: think i know what i would prefer.. BUT its probably bullshit so iffy it is :D Title: Dennis Wise Post by: FlashGordon on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 00:18:56 Not sure if Ray Wilkins will be here, according to the rumours page on BBC:
Quote On the managerial front, Peter Taylor will make Ray Wilkins his assistant when he is named Charlton manager. (News of the World) Thats from sundays rumours tho, however makes the Gus Poyet link possibly a bit more viable...? Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 00:33:55 Will be interesting to see if there's any truth in it. He may well of had an interview. Not sure what I'd think about Wise but could do worse.
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Johno on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 06:52:36 radio wiltshire said this morning have said wise will be appointed new manager.
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Panda Paws on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 06:57:48 Quote from: "Johno" radio wiltshire said this morning have said wise will be appointed new manager. They're actually saying he's in negotiations - not that he is the new manager. Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Luci on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 07:07:17 According to Radio Swindon its expected to be announced Friday, however it seems a pretty done deal from the way they were talking.
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Maidenhead Red on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 07:10:45 Dennis Wise...mmmmmmmmm.....not sure.
Will Probably get more people throught the turnstiles on a Saturday but when things start to go pear shaped, which they inevitably will, will he have the tactical nouce and man management skills to get us back on track? I think it's also going to be a case of how much money is avaliable to him to spend on wages etc...... I hope my doubts are ill-founded and he goes on to be an ace manager. But you can't help but wonder......... I hope he turns out to be an ace STFC manager though. Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Luci on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 07:14:56 Quote from: "Maidenhead Red" Dennis Wise...mmmmmmmmm.....not sure. Will Probably get more people throught the turnstiles on a Saturday but when things start to go pear shaped, which they inevitably will, will he have the tactical nouce and man management skills to get us back on track? I think it's also going to be a case of how much money is avaliable to him to spend on wages etc...... I hope my doubts are ill-founded and he goes on to be an ace manager. But you can't help but wonder......... I hope he turns out to be an ace STFC manager though. I hope that the arrival of Bill Power will provide him with more options when targeting players, providing Bill Powers money isn't all going on paying Wise's wages leaving minimal for squad improvement. Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 07:58:41 so Wise it is then! i feel for Iffy but hey it could be a good move! id love Wilkins as assistant though
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Cookie on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 08:04:07 I'm not sure about this.
It will be very good to have Wise in our midfield, that's one problem position solved in the short term. Wise did take Millwall to the FA Cup final but he inherited some very good players. We don't have any good players so it's up to Wise to buy them in. Does he have good enough contacts, yes i think he does, hopefully Austin will give him the money to buy some decent players in and we could make an immediate return back to the heady heights of L1. Title: Dennis Wise Post by: janaage on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 08:04:55 Wise and Poyet according to the back page of the adver, not sure what to make of it at the moment, apart from the BP quote of
"whatever we do won't be behind Iffy's back" Well unless Iffy was sitting in on the interview it seems like that's exactly what happened. Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Luci on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 08:06:52 If Wise is coming here I'd still want Iffy very much involved, especially with the youth teamers as I think he has done a job job with them and can do well in preparing them for 1st team football.
I'd be very very sad if he left completely. Title: Dennis Wise Post by: janaage on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 08:09:19 But would he want to stay? If he did fair enough, but that must be a blow to your pride, from 1st team manager to youth team coach.
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Luci on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 08:11:09 Exactly, its easy to work up in any position but being downgraded so to speak is not an easy task.
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Tails on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 08:21:08 I don't think Wise will do any better than Iffy tbh. However he does have better contacts and the clubs profile will be raised a bit.
If he plays he'll become the player everyone else wants to take out. Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Sippo on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 08:27:01 I really am undecided on this. I feel if we needed anyone it should be an experienced manager who has lower league knowledge. If we couldn't get one I feel Iffy should've had a good crack at the whip. Wise and Poyet maybe a good move- high profile names which may interest players here, but then again may back fire. Can both still play or are they too old. Poyet used to be ace at chelski..
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: le god cuervo on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 08:37:08 wise & poyet would be sweet! i'll believe it when i see it though. why would they want to drop down to this league?
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Tails on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 08:37:15 Poyet is retired I think. Wise played last season.
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Milmo on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 08:39:32 Really have no idea wether to be excited or anxious!
Time will tell I guess, so in the mean time, whoever is manager next season has my full support. Would love Wise in midfield, but that doesn't look like it'll happen. Title: Dennis Wise Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 08:40:35 Jan, I don't think this has been done behind Iffy's back. Power and Devlin both commented to various fans at the Huddersfield game that Iffy was not 100% likely to be Manager, so it suggests this has been worked on for a while.
I originally took it that they were bringing in someone high profile to assist and Iffy might not like it, but it seems the talks may have taken a different route at some point. I'd like Iffy to be given a similar job to that of Parnaby at Middlesboro, having complete control over the entire youth set-up at the club. Director of Youth Development or whatever the title is. I think the board should work hard to persaude him to stay because I'm happy he'll become a very good Manager in time. Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Forza_Swindon on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 08:42:16 Like most other people have said so far, it'll be great for the club profile, they may attract some other high-profle players too - am very much undecided on the actual performance issue though...fingers crossed it works! I hope there is some way to keep Iffy involved too.
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 08:59:52 Wise and Poyet??????????????????
F*** me :shock: I can see that being spectacularly sucessful or a complete disaster. I can't see it being anywhere in between. My gob is smacked. I feel very much like I did when we appointed Ossie Ardiles out of the blue. It was an exciting appointment but you didn't have a clue how he might do. Of course history shows he was a phenomenal success. Let's hope history repeats! Title: Dennis Wise Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 09:02:18 Quote from: "OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR" Wise and Poyet?????????????????? F*** me :shock: I can see that being spectacularly sucessful or a complete disaster. I can't see it being anywhere in between. My gob is smacked. I feel very much like I did when we appointed Ossie Ardiles out of the blue. It was an exciting appointment but you didn't have a clue how he might do. Of course history shows he was a phenomenal success. Let's hope history repeats! On a personal note, I like Poyet very much. He strikes be as being slightly mental which I like 8) Denise Wise???? Not sure. We shall see. Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Stef Troll on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 09:10:25 I think its a bloody excellent decision. He's a manager with passion, and he will inject both passion and energy into the players. Hes also a handy midfielder, which is n added incentive
He did a god job with Milwall under difficult circumstances, and if the choice was between keeping iffy or hiring wise, then in my opinion Iffy, your fired !!!!! Title: Dennis Wise Post by: janaage on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 09:41:52 Discipline!! That's what big D will bring to town!
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Bushey Boy on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 09:48:46 Didnt he break a players nose in spain? Just hope he installs a bit of hard descipline on our lot, especially looking at the drink culture at the club.
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Piemonte on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 09:49:55 Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
I dont know what to think right now. To pass the time til I do, I'm going to think about a threesome with Elisha Cuthbert and Jessica Alba. Ace Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Luci on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 09:52:02 Just looking for more news on the net and found this! Long time ago so completely unrelated to todays situation however looking at the bit about Igos fine underneath! That seems time ago!!!!!
http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/Disciplinary/NewsAndFeatures/Postings/2004/04/Disciplinary_WiseFined.htm Title: Dennis Wise Post by: manc red on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 09:54:20 It worries me the amount of money that will have to be spent on wages for wise and poyet and then the other 'high profile' players be seem to think will join us, esp with the £900,000 cva thing to pay off in the near future. If Power put a mill in surely it would be best paying that off then moving on from there?
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 10:02:15 Quote from: "manc red" It worries me the amount of money that will have to be spent on wages for wise and poyet and then the other 'high profile' players be seem to think will join us, esp with the £900,000 cva thing to pay off in the near future. If Power put a mill in surely it would be best paying that off then moving on from there? Power suggested the CVA was in hand. He is also not someone to throw endless cash at things, I think his total investment at QPR was £1m. Hopefully there is enough experience of how bad things can be at this club over the past 5 years that a sensible approach to things is being taken. Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Sippo on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 10:07:41 Speculate to Ecumalate is the right phrase that comes to mind? :?
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Dorset Red on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 10:08:09 Quote from: "manc red" It worries me the amount of money that will have to be spent on wages for wise and poyet ... I'm not sure which is best.. to spend a bit more to get a motivator in the manager's job and get him to work with the players you've got ... OR, spend the money on better players and keep the average manager you've got. ???? :? I hope that the appointment of Wise (if it happens) will be a repeat of the appointment of Macari. Title: Dennis Wise Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 10:09:40 I can't help but get midly excited about things at the mo. Several weeks back we were facing relegation, splits amongst fans appearing over Iffy, stories coming out about not being able to afford King's salary etc.
Regardless of the capabilities or otherwise of Wise and exactly how much Power might be chanelling our way etc, it's damned good to be talking about potential improvements rather than things getting steadily worse all the time. Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Luci on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 10:10:58 In previous seasons we have built a squad capable of reaching the play-offs on a shoestring budget so it can be done providing the contacts are there.....
If the money is spent at a managerial level its a definite must to have someone with a lot of allies/aquaintances in higher leagues. Title: Dennis Wise Post by: STFC Village on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 10:12:00 Well, i'm excited 8)
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Luci on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 10:13:54 :clap: :dance: :\/ :\/ :\/ :dance: :clap:
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: ron dodgers on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 10:23:32 if Wisey is appointed and you don't like it - fuck off then!
It's important that the club moves forward - Iffy did well but we can't afford to be a nursery for managers for another season. Wisey is a proven manager at a higher level - it would be good for the club. Title: Dennis Wise Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 10:24:41 Are they actually talking to Wise and Poyet seperately about being manager or is the idea that Wise would be manager with Poyet as the cone collector???
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: STFC Village on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 10:26:38 Without knowing any facts, i'd imagine Wise has been interviewed by Power/Devlin and has suggested that he would bring in Gus as Assistant if appointed. Obviously, they will know each other well from the Chelsea (not Chelski) days
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: yeo on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 10:28:06 This shows that nothing has changed at the club and that the board room is still in utter chaos.If they never ment the things they were saying about Iffy why say them?I thought the Devlin / Power era was supposed to be about transparency and honesty.....obviously not.
Ill still go if hes appointed but I will NEVER sing his name..I dont want him. Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Dazzza on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 10:29:13 Can anyone get on the Adver or post me some linkage?
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Luci on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 10:30:31 Cant get onto thisis atm. Not sure if its my pc or if its running slowly today. In Swindon today so will defo get a paper if sites not sorted by lunchtime.
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: STFC Village on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 10:31:28 http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?HLID=387929&CPID=11&title=Wise+set+for+Swindon+role?&lid=2&channel=Football_Home&f=rss
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/swindon_town/4989058.stm Title: Dennis Wise Post by: McLovin on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 10:32:03 If you go to http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/ you can get to the STFC bit
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Luci on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 10:34:14 Cheeeeeerrrrrrrssssssss :D
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 10:36:37 Quote from: "Yeovil Red" This shows that nothing has changed at the club and that the board room is still in utter chaos.If they never ment the things they were saying about Iffy why say them?I thought the Devlin / Power era was supposed to be about transparency and honesty.....obviously not. Ill still go if hes appointed but I will NEVER sing his name..I dont want him. First of all, I am extremely distressed that you will never sing little diddy Dennis' name and I am sure he is as well :cry: Secondly, if you look at all the quotes regarding Iffy from MD and BP they have been very open ended. I don't think they have done anything untoward. Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Sussex on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 10:37:01 Same story as the one was taken down from thisis earlier:
Quote A wise choice? By Jon Ritson EXCLUSIVE: FORMER Chelsea duo Dennis Wise and Gus Poyet are being lined up to lead Swindon Town's bid for promotion next season. The Swindon Advertiser believes Wise has been interviewed for the manager's role at the County Ground and that he would want to bring in his former Chelsea colleague as his assistant. And it could be that Wise, will follow in the footsteps of Lou Macari and Glenn Hoddle by combining management with playing. continued... There has been growing speculation surrounding Iffy Onuora's position although it is by no means certain that Wise will either accept, or has indeed been formally offered the post. And the board have yet to formally sit down with current boss Onuora to discuss his fate. Wise and Poyet, are thought to have met Town officials for talks yesterday and been shown training facilities. Wise, 39, ended last season playing for Championship outfit Coventry City. Prior to that he had been boss at Millwall, leading the Lions to the 2004 FA Cup final, where they were beaten 3-0 by Manchester United. Before moving into management he began his career as a member of Wimbledon's Crazy Gang', helping them to Wembley glory against Liverpool in 1988 and he held aloft the famous old trophy again 12 years later as Chelsea saw off Aston Villa 1-0 in the last final to be played at the old Wembley Stadium. He also took in Leicester City and Southampton on his travels. A change in the boardroom at the New Den saw Wise move on, having earned plaudits for his work at the London club. Now it seems as though he is ready for a new managerial challenge in Wiltshire, assisted by former Uruguayan international Poyet, 38. However, it could be the end of the week before anything is finalised and the picture becomes somewhat clearer. Town deputy chairman Mark Devlin did not wish to be drawn on the matter as the Swindon Advertiser went to press. He said: "I have no comment to make at this time." Title: Dennis Wise Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 10:37:38 Quote from: "Yeovil Red" This shows that nothing has changed at the club and that the board room is still in utter chaos.If they never ment the things they were saying about Iffy why say them?I thought the Devlin / Power era was supposed to be about transparency and honesty.....obviously not. Ill still go if hes appointed but I will NEVER sing his name..I dont want him. Strange, I thought he'd be exactly the sort of player/manager you'd like? Hmm, maybe there is more to your man kissing than I first thought. Title: Dennis Wise Post by: yeo on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 10:40:08 Quote from: "RobertT" Quote from: "Yeovil Red" This shows that nothing has changed at the club and that the board room is still in utter chaos.If they never ment the things they were saying about Iffy why say them?I thought the Devlin / Power era was supposed to be about transparency and honesty.....obviously not. Ill still go if hes appointed but I will NEVER sing his name..I dont want him. Strange, I thought he'd be exactly the sort of player/manager you'd like? Hmm, maybe there is more to your man kissing than I first thought. Dennis Wise is and always has been a grade A cunt and whilst Poyet is a legend what the fuck does he know about 4 th division shit footballers? Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Whits on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 10:41:42 dennis wise has got a tiny head,dennis wise has got a tiny head, dennis wise has got a tiny head, dennis wise has got a fucking tiny head, a fucking tiny head, a fucking tiny head, dennis wise has got a fucking tiny head, a fucking tiny head.
to the tune of peter reid has a monkeys head :D Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Sade on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 10:52:33 I can't help but feel rather excited at the prospect of having dennis wise as manager. A very well known footballer that has acheived loads in the past and he could be coming here!! He could well be the man that brings us back up to league one at the end of next season.....oooooooooooooh exciting times........who knows! :D
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: kaufman on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 11:00:03 if he does come in and does well then everyone will be happy (OBVIOULSY) but i think he is the sort of character that when things are down he will like king and more so mcmahon rub people up the wrong way and could cause a lot of problems within the club and could end up doing more harm than good but i do agree that he is the sort of person we need at the moment as long as he has someone with him who is tactically sound whether it be poyet or wilkins.
everyone should excited and welcome him but don't be suprised if he fucks off at the first opportunity to futher his career. at least our midfield will get some good coaching for once and i think cureton and wise would get on well be interesting to see what i hanlon and evans do now Title: Dennis Wise Post by: janaage on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 11:03:14 I'd be surprised if Evans leaves if Wise comes in. Very surprised. But then there are two big if's in that statement.
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 11:06:12 Quote from: "kaufman" and i think cureton and wise would get on well They will definitely see eye to eye 8) Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Danjackson10 on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 11:25:21 http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/swindontownfc/display.var.762565.0.a_wise_choice.php
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: DV on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 11:50:10 So we let Iffy decide on the new contracts, then bring in Dennis Wise....makes sense :roll:
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Ralphy on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 11:50:58 Not sure what i think about this yet.
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: dogs on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 11:54:12 Have the contracts been signed though? Isn't it normally a date 1st June/July. Maybe revoke them.
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 11:54:36 id like to see him here! poyet as his assistant would be ace too! come on Wise accept the offer!
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: STFC Village on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 11:56:22 :o Even Rich is excited :o
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 11:56:46 indeed! :soapy tit wank:
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Danjackson10 on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 11:59:08 my gut says it is a good move at the moment! I always trust my gut!
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Ralphy on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 12:03:59 I am finding it hard to believe.
Why is Iffy doing the contracts if he's about to be sacked?? Title: Dennis Wise Post by: red macca on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 12:05:34 only two contracts have been signed
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Ralphy on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 12:07:45 Player managers have historically been good at Swindon and bought me some of my happiest times watching Town, lets pray.
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Danjackson10 on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 12:15:31 indeed let us pray ralphy!
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 12:15:39 Quote from: "Ralphy" I am finding it hard to believe. Why is Iffy doing the contracts if he's about to be sacked?? Yes Ralph, it's all a big wind up :nod: Title: Dennis Wise Post by: land_of_bo on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 12:39:30 Wise man says, let me manage you
And next year, we will win league two :mrgreen: Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Arriba on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 12:41:15 fucking better than that idiot holloway.
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: stfc_carver on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 13:04:57 i love dennis wise, hes a nutter. i really hope its true. the blokes a legend. not sure about him playin though. hes a tad old now.
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Johno on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 13:05:33 Quote from: "Chris K" Quote from: "Johno" radio wiltshire said this morning have said wise will be appointed new manager. They're actually saying he's in negotiations - not that he is the new manager. just to clear this up, i said will....not that he is. Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Johno on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 13:10:04 anyway, about the subject. seems okay...i'd like to see iffy, reeves and woan stay though.
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Doore on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 13:15:38 Quote i love dennis wise, hes a nutter. i really hope its true. the blokes a legend. not sure about him playin though. hes a tad old now. not sure that breaking your own team mates jaw on a pre-season trip makes you a legend. Makes you a twat in my book. Not keen at all to be honest, but rumour has it that I've been wrong before. Title: Dennis Wise Post by: SwindonTartanArmy on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 13:23:27 This is about as good an idea as the Celtic Chairman saying " I know Lets bring John Barnes in as manager"!!!! :|
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Danjackson10 on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 13:29:39 Id be interested to know why people are having their doubts over wise and is there anyone who would actually prefer Iffy over Wise?
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Doore on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 13:32:14 I doubt the appointment of Wise as a wise choice (hehe) as, although he enjoyed a modicum of success at Millwall, when they had to sell and had no money he couldn't cope, a situation similar to that which he would face here. I'm also unsure as to how solid his knowledge is of the lower leagues, and his ability to work with players of no real talent.
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: kaufman on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 13:32:39 already gave mine
see previous posts Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Bogus Dave on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 13:35:43 what makes me laugh is that people are slagging off iffy for not being tough enough on the players, but as soon as we get a chace to bring in a manager who would discipline the players, everyone is up in arms and against the idea.
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Arriba on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 13:41:11 wise can hardly be described as disiplined.
twatted a taxi driver and a team mate in the past allegedly! Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Doore on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 13:49:26 I'm not sure Wise is a disciplinarian. His record on the pitch in regards to discipline is hardly exemplary, and we need not go on about his record off the pitch. Do we want a disciplined team or a team of hot-headed hooligans?
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Bogus Dave on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 13:49:44 a little bit of passion is not neceserrily a bad thing. how many times have u seen our players not go in for 50:50 balls this seasoin, and pull out of tackles. if wise was in charge players wouldn't be aloud to do that. i no he is a bit ill-disciplined, but is that such a bad thing. you wouldnt call neil warnok the nicest man in the world, an look whats happend to sheff united this season.
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 13:52:52 Having a little sniff around brings back the following results:
Millwall fans reckon he got the team motivated and other teams would hate playing against a side managed by him Coventry fans seem to think he'd still be a good player next season Millwall fans are divided, quite strikingly, about his transfer dealings. Players such as Hayles and Dichio for exampe being touted as extremely bad ones (when I'd have thought they'd be ok for a club like Millwall!). Given that he won't be able to sign stupidly expensive players here then I reckon we get to use his best quality and can cancel out any extravegence in the transfer market by having little dosh. Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Doore on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 13:53:05 Point well made Dave, but I'm still unsure about his knowledge of the lower leagues and working with no resources. Also concerned that at previous clubs his attitude has undermined team spirit rather than helped to build it - hardly a decent characteristic of a manager. I hope to be proved wrong though!
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: larwood on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 14:03:11 I feel a bit ambivalent about the idea at the moment.IF it does happen i think it could be good,it would certainly increase our chances of attracting players.But it could also be another false dawn a la Colin fucking Todd.I refuse to get too worked up about it until it actually happens.I'd prefer a Wilkins and Wise partnership too tbh.
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: DMR on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 14:19:44 He'd sort the wasters out that's for sure, unlike their bum-buddy Iffy.
He's a high profile name whose likely to attract a better calibre of player than some journeyman lower league striker. Get in. Title: Dennis Wise Post by: danny121 on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 14:24:21 Hopefully hel bring in vialli and Dan petrescu and were be well on our way!
Im excited, he performed very well for conventry towards the end of the season so playingwise he has alot to offer. Great record in his first season at Millwall although hard to judge a manager on one season. I do agree hel bring some much needed dicispline to the club, maybe not so on the pitch but off it, hel ensure players not taking the piss being out every saturday night ala pook and nicks. Also heard Wilkins will be joining Peter Taylor at Charlton. Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Kinky Tom on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 14:24:24 I'm not sure, I'm certainly not excited by the news.
If he manages to bring in some wonderkid striker on loan from chelski who scores 30 I'd be mildly happy. Title: Dennis Wise Post by: normy on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 14:25:24 Iffy turned out to a nicer guy than King, but worse tactically and selection-wise.
I had no confidence in his ability to turn things round, and was prepared for another poor season. A new manager is always a complete unknown starting from scratch, but if Wise joins up, and with Austin's money, there will be more hope as far as I am concerned and I look forward to it. Title: Dennis Wise Post by: larwood on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 14:38:19 Quote If he manages to bring in some wonderkid striker on loan from chelski who scores 30 I'd be mildly happy :soapy tit wank: As i've said,i can't get too excited about it just yet,it still may not happen.The other week i was wetting myself at the thought of Big Phil becoming England boss and that went tits up :( So i'll keep the champers on ice until its on the BBC website at least :wink: Title: Dennis Wise Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 15:18:08 Quote from: "larwood" Quote If he manages to bring in some wonderkid striker on loan from chelski who scores 30 I'd be mildly happy :soapy tit wank: As i've said,i can't get too excited about it just yet,it still may not happen.The other week i was wetting myself at the thought of Big Phil becoming England boss and that went tits up :( So i'll keep the champers on ice until its on the BBC website at least :wink: You were wetting yourself at the though of Scolari becoming England coach?? Some people are easily pleased :| Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Dorset Red on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 15:24:55 Quote from: "Kinky Tom" I'm not sure, I'm certainly not excited by the news. If he manages to bring in some wonderkid striker on loan from chelski who scores 30 I'd be mildly happy. So if a 30 goal per season wonderkid only makes you mildly happy, what does it take to make you really happy? :cry: Title: Dennis Wise Post by: larwood on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 15:26:36 Wetting myself,maybe a bit of an over exaggeration :) But i wanted it to happen,i'd sooner him than Maclaren any day.
The point is,is that we thought it was going to happen and it didn't,the same could apply with Wise,so i'm not going to get too worked up about it....yet :wink: Title: Dennis Wise Post by: kaufman on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 15:33:18 i suppose the big question is how much did ray wilkins have to do with the success of millwall while wise was in charge?
if wilkins pretty much ran the whole coaching side as a lot of people believe then are we taking a gamble on wise without wilkins as assistant? remember that wise left loads of the duties to wilkins as wise was on the pitch where he could motivate the players best but can he do this from just the sidelines? ah well lets see what happens is this even official news yet as i have yet to see a quote Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Kinky Tom on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 15:53:43 Sky Sports news have just reported that a club spokesperson has confirmed talks with Wise are at an early stage. fyi :|
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 16:05:13 Well if it doesn't come off I don't think I will cry :oops:
Any way. They're not that likely to be at an advanced stage at this point are they? Title: Dennis Wise Post by: kaufman on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 16:09:12 http://www.swindontownfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/videoSearchClipStreamingController/viewClips?quality=1&clipList=108767%2C00%3A01%3A12%2C0%3A00%3A23-
his goal against hull this season hmm maybe he should play Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Kinky Tom on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 16:09:56 No, just saying there have been talks, but we're perhaps reading too much into it. :shrug:
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: kaufman on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 16:12:21 http://www.teamtalk.com/football/story/0,16368,1811_1230932,00.html
the update Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Rich Pullen on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 16:15:46 I hope something comes out of this to be hoenst.
However, will Onuora stay if nothing happens? When King was manager Jan Molby and Mal Machin were interviewed by the board and Kingy stayed when nothing came of it. [EDIT] The above link suggest Onuora was always leaving pending success rate. But why on earth was Onuora allowed to offer contracts etc????? This club :roll: Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Amir on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 16:30:27 I'll be happy enough if he comes. Not particularly fond of the bloke(especially after the way he behaved in the 2004 FA cup final), still I've had good fun winding my mate up all day because he hates him so much. I've never heard the phrase 'odious little cunt' used so frequently :D If nothing else at least he'll wind opposition fans up.
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: sonic youth on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 16:38:21 i think the club have looked at past records and taking into account our success with player/managers and former top level players.
i think it'll be fucking fantastic, not a huge fan of the midget (short man syndrome = cunt) but i think it'd be a good positive move for the club, which will raise our profile and will certainly be no worse than keeping iffy. Title: Dennis Wise Post by: Danjackson10 on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 16:47:26 Quote from: "sonic youth" i think the club have looked at past records and taking into account our success with player/managers and former top level players. i think it'll be fucking fantastic, not a huge fan of the midget (short man syndrome = cunt) but i think it'd be a good positive move for the club, which will raise our profile and will certainly be no worse than keeping iffy. agree i think Title: Dennis Wise Post by: kaufman on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 17:32:38 Quote from: "Amir" I'll be happy enough if he comes. Not particularly fond of the bloke(especially after the way he behaved in the 2004 FA cup final), still I've had good fun winding my mate up all day because he hates him so much. I've never heard the phrase 'odious little cunt' used so frequently :D If nothing else at least he'll wind opposition fans up. yes the fa cup final for millwall he was an absolute cock. he kept pulling and grabbing scholes at a free kick for which he should have been sent off for and then after the ref told him no more he did it again straight away and even worse than the last. the ref was very weak that day did the wise overhead kick goal link work i put up a few posts ago? Title: Dennis Wise Post by: red macca on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 21:31:48 im suprised that no one has pointed to the fact that if he comes here he is not gonna come here without being told he has something to spend,bill power is a proud man and probably feels he wants to show alot of people he can be a success,,my thoughts on the wise appointment if it happens is that it could be a good thing,players respect him,good contacts and at some point he will need to grow up,he hashave what we have been crying out for for years in the middle,,alth played at the highest level and commands respect at this level surely,,and i tell you what if he comes here and we have him and smith in the centre we will finally ough i think poyet might get the nod over smith he is only a year younger than wise :wink: :wink:
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: kaufman on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 21:49:49 poyet has retired
Title: Dennis Wise Post by: red macca on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 22:42:24 Quote from: "kaufman" poyet has retired thats why i winked m8,,i was joking .didnt he retire bout 3 years ago due to knee injuryTitle: Dennis Wise Post by: kaufman on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 23:01:51 doh sorry misread the wink !
he retired last year |