Title: BNP OUT ! Post by: Fred Elliot on Friday, May 5, 2006, 11:34:03 I make no apologies for starting a new thread whilst there is still an active local election thread, but this news has made my day, week, month and year !
http://www.adver.co.uk/display.var.751095.0.voters_boot_bnp_out_of_town.php Go back from under the rock from whence you came ! Fucking scum ! Title: BNP OUT ! Post by: pauld on Friday, May 5, 2006, 11:53:12 Neatly put, Fred. Now Swindon's would-be Fuhrer can go back to being a part-time cleaner. What does he do the rest of the time? Hang out with the master-race, presumably. Bit worrying that there's that many stupid people in Gorse Hill though.
Title: BNP OUT ! Post by: Fred Elliot on Friday, May 5, 2006, 11:54:20 Agreed
Title: BNP OUT ! Post by: Ralphy on Friday, May 5, 2006, 15:46:50 I'm not from Swindon so can't comment on your politics.
What i will say is, i don't agree with the BNP's policies at all but i can understand how they have come to power in some parts of England. For the record, in my area, i voted tory. Title: BNP OUT ! Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Friday, May 5, 2006, 16:04:23 I can understand how they've come to power in some places too. Because some voters are retarded twats.
Title: BNP OUT ! Post by: oxford_fan on Friday, May 5, 2006, 16:20:29 they've got as many seats as the greens, which is very depressing.
Title: BNP OUT ! Post by: walrus on Friday, May 5, 2006, 16:21:46 Quote from: "oxford_fan" they've got as many seats as the greens, which is very depressing. The Greens are a bit gay though.... I didn't vote, though I wasn't at home so I couldn't. Mind you fook knows who I'd go for, all the parties are shit. Bring back the Monster Raving Loonies! Title: BNP OUT ! Post by: sonic youth on Friday, May 5, 2006, 16:22:41 Quote from: "oxford_fan" they've got as many seats as the greens, which is very depressing. and quite scary. Title: BNP OUT ! Post by: flammableBen on Friday, May 5, 2006, 16:23:50 The Monster Raving Looney entry in wikipedia is an interesting read. Can't remember why I was reading it, think I was just randomly clicking on stuff.
Title: BNP OUT ! Post by: oxford_fan on Friday, May 5, 2006, 16:25:28 Quote from: "Walrus" Quote from: "oxford_fan" they've got as many seats as the greens, which is very depressing. The Greens are a bit gay though.... Quote from: "sonic youth" Quote from: "oxford_fan" they've got as many seats as the greens, which is very depressing. and quite scary. Title: BNP OUT ! Post by: Ralphy on Friday, May 5, 2006, 16:26:06 Tory is the way.
West Oxon all the way to the election, Mr David Cameron is our king. Title: BNP OUT ! Post by: oxford_fan on Friday, May 5, 2006, 16:28:50 i spit on you
cameron is weak Title: BNP OUT ! Post by: sonic youth on Friday, May 5, 2006, 16:30:14 cameron is a grade a cunt.
shame my area is so full of like-minded cunts and the tories will never lose around here. Title: BNP OUT ! Post by: Ralphy on Friday, May 5, 2006, 16:30:40 Fuck off you Oxford Liberal Democrat Yellow Scummer. :D
Title: BNP OUT ! Post by: Ralphy on Friday, May 5, 2006, 16:31:51 So who would you vote for in Oxon Sonic? Cameron is by far more in touch with our age group.
Title: BNP OUT ! Post by: DMR on Friday, May 5, 2006, 16:32:14 Quote from: "sonic youth" cameron is a grade a cunt. shame my area is so full of like-minded cunts and the tories will never lose around here. ya big leftie poof, cameron's merely an incarnation of blair '97 Title: BNP OUT ! Post by: sonic youth on Friday, May 5, 2006, 16:34:45 Quote from: "Ralphy" So who would you vote for in Oxon Sonic? Cameron is by far more in touch with our age group. i voted for an local bloke who stood as an independent candidate in my village, i went to school with his son and i know he's someone 'local' and not some self-serving politician. the state of politics depress me, it's a case of the best of a bad bunch whilst trying to stop the increasingly media-friendly far right gaining votes. i will never vote conservative, labour are equally terrible and the lib dems are rapidly sliding. dave's right about cameron being blair mk ii though. Title: BNP OUT ! Post by: oxford_fan on Friday, May 5, 2006, 16:35:24 Quote from: "Ralphy" Cameron is by far more in touch with our age group. you joker. this was a local election anyway, nowt to do with that mugginsQuote from: "dave_m_russell" Quote from: "sonic youth" cameron is a grade a cunt. shame my area is so full of like-minded cunts and the tories will never lose around here. ya big leftie poof, cameron's merely an incarnation of blair '97 Title: BNP OUT ! Post by: DMR on Friday, May 5, 2006, 16:37:23 It's not, i'm just saying.
Cameron's an educated fellow on the left of his party, Blairs the same on the right of his. I don't think you can call Cameron a grade-a cunt until he's had a go at royally fucking things a la Tony. Title: BNP OUT ! Post by: Ralphy on Friday, May 5, 2006, 16:37:45 I live 3 miles from Cameron OF, he's a quality bloke, regular at my local and a nice chap. Likes his ale and ciggies too 8)
Title: BNP OUT ! Post by: sonic youth on Friday, May 5, 2006, 16:37:52 i've met him so i have first hand experience of the cuntishness
Title: BNP OUT ! Post by: sonic youth on Friday, May 5, 2006, 16:38:27 Quote from: "Ralphy" I live 3 miles from Cameron OF, he's a quality bloke, regular at my local and a nice chap. Likes his ale and ciggies too 8) all of which are blatantly excellent attributes for a prime minister?! Title: BNP OUT ! Post by: Ralphy on Friday, May 5, 2006, 16:39:32 Quote from: "sonic youth" Quote from: "Ralphy" I live 3 miles from Cameron OF, he's a quality bloke, regular at my local and a nice chap. Likes his ale and ciggies too 8) all of which are blatantly excellent attributes for a prime minister?! Don't be petty. Was just showing he is a down to earth human. Title: BNP OUT ! Post by: DMR on Friday, May 5, 2006, 16:39:36 Quote from: "sonic youth" i've met him so i have first hand experience of the cuntishness You'd probably feel the same if you met Blair... Besides whats the point of a Tory leader wasting his efforts on some do-gooder Liberal :wink: Title: BNP OUT ! Post by: oxford_fan on Friday, May 5, 2006, 16:40:00 Quote from: "Ralphy" I live 3 miles from Cameron OF, he's a quality bloke, regular at my local and a nice chap. Likes his ale and ciggies too 8) i'm sure he's super but unfortunately his party are a bunch of incompetents who'd mess this country up big time, worse than labour IMOwhich is what it comes down to really, which of the crap at the top is going to do the least damage Title: BNP OUT ! Post by: flammableBen on Friday, May 5, 2006, 16:40:45 Cameron is an alchy!! ace. If he wasn't a tory I'd vote for him.
All polaticians should be pissed. It's the way forward! Title: BNP OUT ! Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Friday, May 5, 2006, 17:01:59 Successive Governments of both persuasions and the ever growing menace of 'PC' have provided the perfect breeding ground for the BNP to gain a foot hold in British politics - and that is what they now have, make no mistake.
Working class white people living in major urban areas such as London, Bradford, Birmingham, Manchester etc have become alienated, disenfranchised and disillusioned. The BNP are offering them what they perceive to be as a viable alternative. That I am afraid, is a FACT! An awful lot of people who vote BNP are neither twats or cunts. This may sound like a party political broadcast for the BNP but at the last three elections I have voted for the following parties: 1) Legalize Canabis (don't use it myself) 2) Green 3) Raving Monster Loony. I don't imagine I will ever vote BNP but I think it's important to appreciate why the BNP have been able to come to such a position of relative prominance. Title: BNP OUT ! Post by: pauld on Friday, May 5, 2006, 17:21:21 Sadly OST is correct - huge numbers of people are disenfranchised from the political process and for some of them the BNP appear to offer if not the answer then at least a way of expressing frustration at the state of the system. That doesn't stop those who voted for them being twats - you could use the same excuses (disenfranchisement, frustration, alienation etc) for, say, a Muslim voting for a hypothetical al-Qaeda candidate and I think everyone here would be quick to condemn that (rightly). At the end of the day, whatever the reasons, I'm sick of hearing the "I'm not a racist but ...." line - if you're not a racist (or using the al-Qaeda example) a terrorist, don't fucking vote for them.
Title: BNP OUT ! Post by: sonic youth on Friday, May 5, 2006, 21:01:33 agree with both of you.
i won't condemn anyone for being disillusioned with the political process and seeing the bnp as a viable option, because 99% of the time i'd chalk that down to being ill-informed. Title: BNP OUT ! Post by: oxford_fan on Friday, May 5, 2006, 21:47:58 i wouldn't say the bnp have a foothold at all, its all because of clarke's fuck up that they've gained and to say that they've now got in the door is adding further fuel to their fire. of 20,000 councilors in the country they have about 13!? its nothing. and next locals, when the immigration issue isn't in the news so much and hopefully nobody talks about the BNP, they'll be back where they were.
OST talks about some kind of working class abandonment of the real parties, but the fact, as you say, is, that the majority are perfectly sensible enough to know that a vote for the BNP is outwardly racist and why, despite many being completely dissatisfied with labour's performance and recent errors, the BNP still made little gains relatively. if they were anything serious, or if they really had got a foothold, the recent issues would have propelled them into the national agenda. in reality they gained a few seats and this kind of overstating plays right into their hands. tinpot party, very small scale. agreed that their potential menace shouldn't be underestimated but this is what they thrive on. Title: BNP OUT ! Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Friday, May 5, 2006, 22:07:53 The meer fact that we are debating the BNP on this forum suggests that they HAVE gained a foot hold.
They have found their way into the public domain/debate whatever you want to call it. If their gains had been that insignifigant then why are we even talking about them? You can't just dismiss them. Title: BNP OUT ! Post by: oxford_fan on Saturday, May 6, 2006, 01:57:53 they've gained seats, so in that sense have "gained a foothold". but like i said you've got to put it in perspective (in terms of the numbers of local councilors they actually have - tens (13?) amongst 20,000), and the fact that we're talking about them only serves to illustrate my point re: misrepresentational exposure.
i agree, dismissing them is no answer at all as they should be exposed for what they are, rather than any answer to the problem. Title: BNP OUT ! Post by: Lumps on Saturday, May 6, 2006, 08:06:19 Quote from: "Ralphy" Quote from: "sonic youth" Quote from: "Ralphy" I live 3 miles from Cameron OF, he's a quality bloke, regular at my local and a nice chap. Likes his ale and ciggies too 8) all of which are blatantly excellent attributes for a prime minister?! Don't be petty. Was just showing he is a down to earth human. He's an Old Etonian Oxbridge graduate who can barely speak for the silver spoon that's still wedged in his gob .........yeah a real salt of the earth regular bloke.... and he's got a disabled kid bless.. Tory fucker |