Thetownend.com

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/r/rotherham_utd/4923004.stm

Smacks a little bit on the timing, using the cut off date to ensure they at least get a whole season to overcome a 10 point deduction.  Don't wish bad times on a club but this is how Cambridge did it last year as well.  Maybe change the rule to ensure a club's penalty only starts in the next season once the fixture lists are released.  The idea is to make clubs run themselves properly but there seems a trend to keep paddling further up shit creek to ensure you see out the season before going for an arrangement.

Without wishing it to sound like sour grapes, to have the 10 points deducted this season would put our survival fight into a whole new arena.

Please dont get me wrong........I would hate for any club to get liquidated, it just smacks of the fact that they new this was inevitable a long time ago, and the timing on the release of the statement is perfect for them.

My thoughts exactly.  And yes, it's a horrible thing to happen to a club and I am also probably biased by our situation but I was equally annoyed with Cambridge doing something similar last season.

Glad i didn't donate anything now...

Didn't want them to go bust but this is taking the p**s - they should be made to take the points deduction this season

I dont want them to go bust, but the rules are the rules!.

who gives a fuck, if we deserve to go down we should be in lg2 next season. you get what you deserve and if we finish in the bottom 4 then so be it. if you're hoping that some side gets deducted 10 points just so swindon can stay up it shows we don't deserve to be in this league

Yes but there is often a little bit of luck involved in football......nothing is plain sailing

At the end of the day any club in their position would so the same. It's just the way it is.

But what it does show is they were playing at unfair advantage as they were trading while technically insolvent (more so than us for instance).  They took playes on the day before the first announcement (Shaw for example) so while we deserve to be on 46 points, the debate would be, would Rotherham be on their points total if they'd traded like the rest of the league.  That is why the rules were brought in following the Leciester scamps using it help them get promoted.

It doesn't take away from our poor season and I wouldn't wish it on Rotherham fans.

Why does the 10 point deduction count NEXT season when the meeting is one day before the end of THIS season?

Surely the 10 points should come off for this season???

if we were in the same shit as rotherham i am sure the same would have happened here.fair play to em

Doubt it, our board hasn't got that much intelligence ...

The point about the season it counts is the real issue I think.  Surely when the play offs are still to be played the season isn't over.  I'd prefer it if they didn't have to go into a CVA, but if they do then it suggests the rules are a bit squiffy.

you have a point there

http://www.themillers.premiumtv.co.uk/page...~818231,00.html

This sheds some light on the situation. Seems they didn't do a full check and have no contingency to pay the Revenue before the winding-up order. League rules relate to a club going into a CVA during the course of the normal playing season (stupid, what if they are in the play offs?) but the meeting is the day before the cut off. They seem to be relying on the appeal taking it beyond that date, which is plain wrong. It shows they are using the rules to gain an advantage. I guess the 5th is being used to try and ensure an agreement is sorted before the end of the week (Sat not being a working day) and in time for to stave off the winding-up order.

Brings into play the prospect of the Revenue using them as an example still though.

It's clear from their own statements that they are using the league rules and bending them to their advantage. Surely any penalty, even if appealed should still be applied to the original date?

I think it should kick in anytime before the start of the new season as past transactions directly affect past performance.

That said I still think we don't deserve to stay up unless we merit it.

its a fucking stupid rule which clubs use to their advantage in some ways (apart from Wrexham of course)

Ahem!

Has everybody forgotten that we are subject to a CVA ourselves. By the arguments of some of you surely we should lose 10 points. After all that sneaky agreeing the CVA before the new rule came into effect is just using a loophole isn't it?

From what i have read and i agree with the other members of the forum that rotherham looks to have blatantly bent the rules in there favour so not to be penalised. didnt wrexham do the same but got clobbered a few seasons ago ???

on sky sports looks like rotherham will be starting the new season with -10 points

http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=380658&CPID=11&clid=72&lid=5&title=Millers+face+ten-point+penalty