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but iffy needs to go. he was the wrong man for the job anyway, cheap option, and yes he galvanized for a while but he makes all the baffling choices king did with none of the redeeming features, he's too much of a lad and not authoritive enough.

get someone else in- even reeves- who can at least have a month to decide who they want to keep hold of. we're down now. nothing to lose by making such a decision.

sorry.

bit late

no thats my whole point. we're down. give new bloke 5 games to seperate the wheat from the chaff etc etc

Haven't we already signed the chaff on contracts for next season though?

not much point, i'd give iffy a chance in league 2 anyway.

and village has a point

fuk off dave. cunty

Hahahaha, worst fukin post ever.  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Talk about over the top.

I agree with Dave, Iffy has had time and has done nothing.Tactically,hasnt got a clue , strange decsions.Time to say thanks,but no thanks.

Hang on a minute,last night you basically said that Iffy was clueless and now you say keep him as manager ?WTF  :?  If he is not good enough in this league why would he suddenly become the Alex Ferguson  of League 2 ? Not so long ago people were calling for King to be sacked because he didnt have a clue ,Iffy may be a nice bloke and Media Friendly but he is not a manager .

so who the hell do you suggest we get in instead of Iffy then?

Considering we've got such high wages to offer and a desirable team to manage with always a guarantee of getting paid on time..............

Some one with a ounce of tactical nouse or at least some one with some experience to help him out . You will have to forgive me, Im not usually this negative but this is born of frustration.

But realistically WHO!

Its easy for everyone to jump on the band wagon and say "someone" over and over again but until people start coming up with reasonable suggestions then Iffy as far as I'm concerned is out Manager next season.

Brian Kidd .

iffy ain't going. don't be so stupid. the reason that he is a cheap is exactly why he'll stay.

Thanks Johno,Mind Blowing .

quite alright  8) had to have my say, even if it was simple and pretty much fact.

:D

Anyone that came in like iffy did, in that stage of the season would of also found it difficult. Being a manager and trying to save a team from relegation is an extremely difficult thing to do and being a fan we sometimes don't realise that. Iffy has not done a bad job at all in my opinion, its his first time in a managerial role and he's aready made some positive changes. He loves this club and I don't think its fair to give him the boot this early. No way. I think what ever league we are in next season, we will have a clean slate and he can start from scratch. I think he's got alot of potential.

Thing that makes me laugh is that all the 'iffy out' people will be kissing his arse at the end of the season if we did actually stay up  :D

When Iffy came in a renewed optimism took root and the performance away at Doncaster seemed to instill some belief in the fans, and maybe even the players.  We are looking increasingly doomed, though last night's result for me is a positive one.  For me, Saturday is the crucial game.  Safety is still just 3 points away, and with 5 games to play nothing is decided.  Even the Dongs have a chance, albeit slim, of staying up.  Giving up, talking of sacking the manager etc., shouldn't be on the cards.  Let's wait til after Ashton Gate before we decide the fate of the management.  Don't fucking give up with 15 points to play for.

I wont be kissing his arse, What has he done that was any different to Kingy ?

Totally agree Sade. He's got the players training hard. Something that Kingy couldn't do

He's got good relations with the press and with the players and with the majority of fans, something which Kingy could never achieve

He may not have Kingy's contacts but i think he's brought a few players in that have been good. Bouazza, Peacock, Tunami hdygfirny or whatever his name is.

I say give him next season in League 2. With the majority of players staying, we have a team who now know eachother. That wasn't the case at the start of the season, and we have good youngsters coming through (jarowics, Caton)

Give him time. We'll be alright next season.

 :D  I think your going to get alot of answers to that one!

I'm not saying king did'nt care, but he never used to show it. He had a bit of a lazy approach to everything. Where as Iffy, shows that he genuinely cares. I don't know about anyone else, but when I listen to iffys interviews after the game, he always has something positive to say and I think thats what we need to hear and it makes us have faith in him and it gives us a bit of hope going into the next game. Kings were a bit odd. He made a joke about everything and did'nt seem serious.

Do be honest Iffy made an ok start, then got better but things have really died off recently.  Not been impressed in these last couple of months, no fight in the team, no direction from the sidelines.

However Dave, saying that Reeves would be better alternative is a mistake, they are both out of their depth.

I am not calling for Iffy to be sacked though.

Good post Walrus you gay :D

It is looking bleak, but the fact remains that we are only 3 points from saftey. I took the view that anything from last nights game would have been a bonus. 3 points v the Dongs is an absolute MUST. If results go our way on Sat and we win, things will be looking a lot brighter - we could be 21st and level on points with 20th. :D  Artenativly, we could be all but down :cry:

For me Iffy has shown enough potential to be given a go next season. He has made mistakes, but its fair to expect that of a rookie manager. Given our financial resources, there no way we'd get a new manager with any kind of passable track record in the summer, I suspect the only chance we might have of getting someone better might be to appoint a recently retired bigish name player. That ex player may do a hoddle / ardiles, or he might do a Merson/ Adams. Its a massive gamble.

Despite that fact that we have been shit this season, my gut feeling tells me that there is still a nucleous of a decent side at the club with some half decent additions in the summer, particually if we can keep hold of the Peaconator and Curo as the 1st choice strikeforce and sign at least 1 decent centre back (ie someone better than Ifill)

What Walrus said.

I don't rate Iffy as a football tactician. And to be honest, i think that's more important than him being a 'nice bloke' or whatever. If he learns quickly, he'll do ok, but as yet i haven't seen much to suggest that he's learning from his already mounting pile of mistakes.

i think iffy got his team selection wrong last night,throwing on an untried kid into a game with one side fighting relegation and the other pushing for promotion was a major fuck up in my opinion.also why the fuck was cureton on the bench?

:thumbs: . My thoughts exactly . Im sure that he is a nice bloke but i would rather have a bastard who got us some results.

Cureton's confidence must be sky high, misses a penalty and is promptly dropped, then after an injury the gaffer chucks an untried 17 year old on instead of the Curo-nator!!

I'm in a bit more composed state this morning and I still feel the same way. I did say it wouldn't popular. Iffy's not going to keep us up.

 This suggests to me that the Board have told Iffy he's in the job next season, and that due to cut backs he'll have to use kids to make up the numbers.

Fair point Reg but whilst you can read between the lines, look at it on face value. Iffy's tactically inept and made a bit of a howler. Fuck next season, we need to stay up THIS season, and Iffy's decisions should be based on that.

I reckon King would have kept us up, but hindsight and all that. Iffy can still keep us up but it's looking increasingly unlikely.

Because we were playing one up front where the striker needs to play with his back to goal shielding the ball, and Cureton, despite being twice his age is about half his size......


Or something...........

Yes but putting on a teenage debutant- he still got battered.

He might be a kid but he's a brick shit house.

According to the commentary there was one incident when he was tackled by three defenders at the same time, was hauled down, and the free kick was given Swansea's way.

And two of those defenders were tooled up with knives according to the commentary!

I'm pretty sure one had a gun.....

 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

 playing a youth team player up front on his own,i rest my case.iffy got it wrong.
i still think he should keep the job though.
where did nanny mcphee play?

Fuck knows.

Maybe he did play up front and I'm completely wrong. But as he didn't seem to touch the ball, or play any noticeable part in the game, I have no idea.

I don't think that Iffy is up to the job, but I think he played a youth teamer up front cos all the other strikers at the club were injured. He has had plenty of time to turn things around with a sh*t squad. Whatsisface at Sh*tty managed to do it and look at all the crap that Tinhead had brought into the squad there ! However, I wouldn't be surprised to see him still in the position next year due to cost. As for him caring more about the club than King; you must be 'avin' a larf !

NMH

Not signed any really great players.

I think that Iffy needs to be given at least to the end of the season before you can decide either way, never know we might still stay up even if it does look a long shot. I don't think he really cares for the club that much, I mean he enjoyed playing here but he seems to have a lot more affection for Gillingham and I'm pretty sure he'd leave if given the chance to manage them.

'get someone else in- even reeves'

Dont be fucking stupid, iffy has done a good job considering what he had to take over with, anyone else think Curo wasnt 100% fit last night, Lucas fitted iffy's system last night we were playing with a lone striker so Curo wasnt going to fit that, what he did yesterday was entirely right we were just out played by a better team.


I think we may be forgetting the shit King left us in morally and points wise, ii Iffy was in at the start of the season well who knows but i think we would be safe by now.

Left us in the shit morally....what  the fuck are you going on about seriously?

The whole get someone else in, anyone but X is what got Iffy the job in the first place. I don't mind change if it looks like a positive move, but change for change sake doesn't always work

what i said - or at least what i meant - was that he'd lost the plot in the run-in. up until recently i've thought he's done well, but he's struggled when it comes to trying to lift us out of the mire again.

i think that given the fact he's inheirited king's squad and has been battling the drop all season, he deserves a chance in his own right. if it doesn't work, then get rid.

i don't like to see managers come and go.

what a load of bollocks the above is.shittys squad and ours is miles apart.how can iffy turn a shit squad around without major investment?

mind you, thinking back he tried the same when we went to high-flying huddersfield and threw stroud in at the deep end. we were superb in that game and stroud was fantastic.

BWB you always feel the need to disagree with my posts - king lost practically all the dressing room, most of the players despised the bloke players did not want to play for him.

It's generally because you tend to post stuff that isn't true.

I don't think you understand what the word morally means.

Iffys done an average job with shit tools.

Only Jesus can save us now.

what a ridiculous suggestion, he's dead. we can't afford a time machine nor could we make the club an attractive proposition for him to resurrect himself again.

some of our fans have completely absurd expectations.

He's done alright this year considering it was his first crack of the whip, and I think he deserves another go. He needs consistency in his selection and he does make some strange decisions, but he's desperate for a result.

I'm all for an experienced manager coming in though, although Iffy seems very popular with the players.

Yes thats one of the problems.

Hes like a mate to them not a boss he wants to start bollocking a few and chucking some tea cups.

I said it last night in the match day thread and I'll say it again.  Iffy and the club as a whole could really do with some senior coaching staff.

Since the departure of Malcolm Crosby things have progressively gone from bad to worse.  Of course there’s many more ills to point the finger at for our demise, the reason for Crosby departing in the first place being first and foremost.  But we have a young manager and a young coach both less than 18 months out of the game with the back-up of Ian Woan another who is out of the trade less than two years.

Three years ago we had a backroom staff of Andy King, Malcolm Crosby, Fraiser Digby (PT), Alan Reeves (PT), Viv Busby and a youth development manager who was eventually poached by Chelski.  We now have a trio of inexperienced coaches fresh out of their playing career and only two have any sort of previous coaching experience, one under Andy King the other under Paul Merson.   :|

Go back a further four years ago and there was talk of King getting at least one possibly two full time scouts to assist him.

Young managers have to start somewhere but as with any trade there is a period to serve as an apprentice and learn the ropes before you can stand on your own two feet.  There are exceptions to the rule but can anyone think of any decent recent examples of a player less than 18 months out of the game having a short and eventual long term impact?  *Cough*Brian Tinnion*Cough*

One of the few things that Andy King once said that made a lot of sense at a presentation evening; when asked about that lad who broke Rooney’s scoring record in the FA Youth cup and his chances of making it was "the step-up from  youth sides to reserve team football is massive, the gulf between reserve team football and the first team is colossal."

It's only fair to say the same rules apply to management

That’s not to take away from Iffy’s performance managing the youth team to that cup victory.  He pulled off a master stroke but the point of employing him as first team manager on the basis of 12 months as a youth team coach does not make an awful lot of sense.

Personally I don’t think he was the ideal man for the job but by the same token he’s impressed in part and to question his role at this stage is madness.  Where ever we end up next season he has a massive job either way and deserves a clean run at it.

Even short-term bring in an old head or even someone like Tony Adams who will bring a bit of a lift and spirit (probably vodka) about the place and add some experience and back-up for the big man in charge.

Can't shrug the feeling that we shot ourselves in the foot sending Big Ron packing. Forget the spin I'm certain he would have had some input and we've gone downhill since they left.

Also, he froze out Whalley when he was looking at his best after Vale. Freezing out Roberts, Thorpe, probably Cureto etc I wonder whether he can deal with egos.

whalley was froze out under king as much as iffy, he was the forgotten man for a long time.

roberts wasn't frozen out, he had serious personal issues which he had to deal with and it would appear, given the fact he's not been around lately, he's not dealt with them sufficiently.

thorpe had plenty of chances but never delivered.

cureton has performed well but i don;'t understand the logic of dropping him last night, though i would assume it was along the same lines of southend away - one up front, don't play a midget.

Dazzas post makes a lot of sense. I don't think anything will happen though.

Iffy deserves to have a go next season.

A lot of good points in there (Dazzza's post not Tails :wink: ) ......but this management thing is an inexact science.

 Sarfend appointed a cheap youth team manager, not long out of playing in Steve Tilson and they're about to win our league.

 Tilson staved off relegation, and then built the next season....here though he staved off relegation to the Confernce by finishing about 21st.  Iffy may well finish here but in L1 its down.

 L2 is slightly easier insofar as only 2 teams drop and 7th picks up a PO spot.

Taking your point there Reg, then Iffy needs to preserve L1 status... in an earlier post you suggested that you thought he was readying himself to accept relegatio?

   I think as a manager you need to be thinking ahead and  it would be silly not to anticipate relegation, and the likely impact on contracts and budgets etc.

Boothroyd at Watford is another good example, sometimes individuals and clubs just seem to click and hit it off.  

There's definitely a clean slate to be had in the summer but the board are going to have to offer the support and finances to allow him to build his own team.  Then we can play at hanging him from the gallows.   :D

At the risk of sounding like a post on the Adver forum the board really need to at least allow for a little speculative spending next season in strengthening the squad. Given that the difference between the top half of League two is relatively the same if not arguably stronger than league one in part, then a squad that's not been good enough this season is unlikely to be the next.

 Therein lies the problem...rather than spending it'll be further cuts...probably under the guise of the wage cap that operates in L2.

If the fans turned up we wouldn't need to cut the budget...

if the football was of quality at a fair price they would turn up

because we play it long so why the fuck should we put a 5"8 striker on when we got a 6"2 striker on the bench..cureton was on the bench for a reason tell me ONE thing he has done in a away game for us this season

im with DMR here tbh. are we really that much better off now with iffy than we would be with King? probably only 2 points in it if that. Iffy has done a good job under the circumstances but you have to ask why the board went for the cheap option of an inexperienced manager when it was obvious we would be battling to stay up right to the end of the season

 Its quite simple, the Board had laid out a certain amount of money in the budget for managers....in the summer they gambled on reducing the playing budget and hoping King's ability with loans etc could paper the cracks and keep us up.

 They'll settle for a failure insofar as they appreciate the problems under which the manager here operates....up to the point where some of the fans get sufficiently agitated to block the exit from the Arkell's so Board members have to leave through the club shop.

 This they don't like...and is why King was sacked.

  In terms of budget it made no difference...in terms of relegation they don't care too much as long as no more debt accrues.

 If there is a protest  before the end of the season of 50 or 60 having a go at the Board and blocking the Arkells, Iffy will be gone PDQ...

thats stupid! we should block the arkells every game until they realise its them, not the manager, that we want rid off!

you have to remember, alot are still Kingys players.

Id give Iffy next season and allow him to bring in his players

Remeber, you cant polish a turd

:soapy tit wank: to be fair id keep Iffy for next seasons promotion charge in league two as well. he does need time and with time comes the experience he needs. i dont want him out that much i just feel that maybe a more experienced manager would have been a better choice for us

also its not Iffys fault, the board decided to sell his best player and top scorer right from under him in January....

thats true! i DO want the board to fuck off, i really do!

Though of course, that best player was one of those turds you can't polish anyway....

He wasnt brilliant by any stretch of the imagination, but while here this season he was effective and we are a weaker side without him and we havent replaced his goals

Point is if you think Fallon was our best player it kind of contradicts us only being in the shit because Iffy inherited all shit players.

True...ok then he was the best of a bad bunch, or rather he was shit and effective  :?

i think cureton's gone some way to replacing fallon, although i think the idea was that peacock and cureton's combined efforts would more than sufficiently replace his goals.

sadly, peacock's not really hit it off and has struggled with both form and injuries.

i still believe the sale of fallon was somewhat of a neccessity and could keep us in business.

Two pallets ordered for Monday

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i think those people calling for the return of fans need to realise that this town is not, and never will be, a big 'home-team' football fan base. i'd say above 60% of the people on this forum are based outside the town, i reckon thats about average for the fans in total, possibly a bit lower. even in the premiership we didnt sell out, so theres no chance at all that at 3rd division level (soon to be 4th division) football is gonna drag in upwards of 5/6/7 thousand people. thats not gonna change.

 :(

We did sell out in the premiership quite a few times though. Sometimes the queues for tickets went on for about a mile.

But yeah that's true, unless we are battling for promotion 5-6000 is about all we'll get at this level.

A sad fact, but you're probably not far off the truth Legster  :(

Pre-match Merlin Saturday it is then..  :beers:

we sold out for man utd, i'm not sure we sold out for any others.

Your having a Giraffe!, we sold out quite a few times and that was when the ground held 18,000.

You know you're a small club when your best player plays against you for a side who were promoted from the league below the season before...  We've gone from being a comparitively big-time club in this division to one of the minnows, and we seemed to sign quantity rather than quality more often than not.  How many loan signings have we made this season that have hardly featured?  I need only point to Jarrett and McPhee for recent examples....

However, when we spank Franchise on Saturday optimism will return.  Does anyone know how long Peacock is out for?  Is there any news on Smith's injury?

With regards to the substition of Whalley does anyone know if he was injured/leggy?  Iffy may have felt he was getting tired.  It's difficult for me to comment as I wasn't there, but I think sometimes people are a bit quick to jump on a manager's back for substititions.  I heard Cureton had a niggle so Iffy probably didn't want to risk him for the best part of 70 minutes - especially as Jutkiewicz's has been knocking on the door of the first team.

also, im sure he wanted to use a replacement as close to peacock like as possible....and that crud guy with the name fits the bill well.

A sad fact, but you're probably not far off the truth Legster  :(

Pre-match Merlin Saturday it is then..  :beers:

*EDIT: Fuck knows why this posted twice  :|

i know it'll excite everyone here but i'll be back this weekend

Woop  :|

yeah exactly. you ignore me as it is and then when birdy's at the football and have no one else to talk to you call me. WELL IT WON'T WASH ANYMORE MISTER  :evil:

i'll defacate in your pocket now you cunt

:D  :o

I think a bacon sandwich would sort your mis-guided head.

Fish?

my fish are well ta :D

i'm pretty sure in the short term a bacon sandwich would reak havoc with the old insides skipper, no matter how delicious it would be.

i'll bring pics of my fish to the pub on saturday so you'll have an excuse to ignore me if you want?

cunt

Thank you for your eloquent response. The point I was making was that Johnson joined Bristol City when they were in disarray. He assessed the situation and got rid of a lot of the crap that Tinnion had brought in. He then motivated the players and sorted out some of the off field problems. From there he has got the team to perform to something closer to its potential. I suspect that he will have another clearout in the summer and use some cash (that admittedly we dont have) to strengthen the team. I would be surprised not to see them near the top of the league next year. (I've attached a quite interesting article from the BBC website below)

A good manager can spot problems and do something about fixing them. In the position that we are in we could not buy success, but we have a group of professional footballers that all have some sort of gift to be where they are. They may not be the best set of footballers in the world, but a good manager would be able to assess their strengths and get the team to play to them. For an example I would cite the Swindon team that Macari took out of the 4th division. There were alot of one dimensional players in that team, but the strength that Macari bread into them was fitness. He got the team to huff and puff for 90 mins and we got a lot of results through sheer determination. Then, once we had a bit of success he bought wisely and the rest is history.

What Iffy has managed to achieve is a few drawn games and the odd win interspersed with very disappointing defeats. Not sure whether it is relevant, but look at Walsall's performance when he was there as assisstant and what happened as soon as he left (admittedly they have been shite again this year but the point I make is that when he left they improved significantly and moved up the table to safety).

Admittedly I can only base my opinion on what I read and what I hear on the radio, but I certainly get the impression that we have players that can perform, but they just ain't doing it.

Hope you don't think that was a load of bollocks...Actually, thinking about it, I don't really give a toss if you do !

NMH

Johnson ready for the next round  
By John May  


 
Johnson is ready for his next challenge
Bristol City boss Gary Johnson is never one to duck a challenge.

Which is why he took on the task of rehabilitating one half of England's most under-performing football city.

Of those cities with more than one team, Nottingham may be going through the doldrums, Sheffield could be about to regain a Premiership club, but Bristol has not seen top-flight football for almost 30 years.

Johnson is not naïve enough to think he can cure that itch quickly by sweeping the Ashton Gate outfit into the Premiership.

But he has certainly laid the foundations to mount a challenge for Championship football next season.

Johnson told BBC Sport: "Bristol City should be in the Championship but you can't just talk a good game.

"We have to earn the right to be a Championship team and unfortunately Bristol City fans have had this for around 30 years.

  You work out pretty quickly which players will get you out of trouble and which ones might not

Bristol City boss Gary Johnson
Johnson seeks value for money  

"We know that if we did progress the fan base is there, and we could sustain a team in the Championship, and even the Premiership if we ever got that far.

"But you don't like to look too far, and we have to look at the next move and that's the Championship."

Johnson is not the sort who believes in miracles, but having performed something suspiciously like one at Yeovil as he established them as a Football League club, he has done something similar at Bristol City.

The Robins looked headed for League Two when Johnson took over from Brian Tinnion last September, but he turned them round with a recipe of: "hard work, on and off the field."

"We were 23rd when I took over and had just been beaten 7-1 at Swansea, so we had to turn it round."

 
Brian Tinnion found managing Bristol City a tough task

An initial surge of three wins in four games was followed by a testing period of nine successive league and cup defeats which plunged the Robins back into trouble.

But it was during that run that Johnson saw those players that were forged in the heat and those that wilted.

"You work out pretty quickly which players will get you out of trouble and which ones might not.

"We had a few nasty injuries and we had some problems with a couple of lads on a late-night drinking session, but that's all over with now.

"During that time we stuck together and when we emerged the other side of that spell, we were a lot stronger.

  I knew there would be pressure and was prepare to take on the challenge

Bristol City boss Gary Johnson
Bristol City 2-1 Yeovil  

"I wouldn't say that bad time was a bonus, but it was the strengthening of the team in so many ways," said Johnson.

The Robins' boss accepts the job of restoring a club of Bristol City's stature brings its own pressure on him.

He said: "You don't get a job like Bristol City if there hasn't been problems.

"Of course there's pressure but I knew there would be and was prepared to take on the challenge.

"I always said that if I was to leave Yeovil the next club I went to would have to be one with potential and ambition.

"I didn't want to go somewhere where I was trying to get the club out of trouble and nick back £40m of debt.

"It's important when you go into interviews to sell yourself, but I'm also taking note all the time of the board and directors where they're coming from.

"The Bristol City chairman and directors are forward thinking and I think the club is willing to back the manager. I have to make sure I bring in the right players.

"Whoever gets this club into the Championship would have done a great job and I hope it's me."

bristol city should have gone up this season with the likes of stewart and bridges. And the season before, and could of the season before, and could of the season before. they have never made it though cause they slip right at the end.

they get major investment and basically blow the money each year, now they should be in division 1 at least.

Havent read the whole thread but I think Iffy should go at the end of the season if he doesnt keep us up ... hes had practically the whole season to turn it around .. chance enough for anyone

To be honest dropping Cureton for McPhee showed his quality when it comes to selections ... awful

Suggest Steve White as a replacement .. with Lou Macari as an advisor if we can get him

But it has to be Chalkie for me

Steve Whites managerial experience is....chippenham! with them he got sacked because he got fined all the time, suspended from the touchline quite abit, he even punched an opposition player in the tunnel. no thanks.

In fairness when Iffy took over morale was at an all time low, we were playing with a budget reduced from last season when we were far from spectacular and he's had to endure a learning curve too.  I think it's a little harsh to get on Iffy's back just yet.  What has been frustrating is every time we have looked like turning it around we have slipped up in an atrocious fashion.  The farce at Forest destroyed morale and destroyed our goal difference.  We are, however, still capable of surviving the drop.

I think Cureton was carrying a knock on Tuesday, trying out McPhee may not have been as daft as it seems.

What experience does Steve White have at league football?  Playing legends don't always make managerial legends.  If we drop to League Two I doubt Macari would have much interest in working for Swindon.

Hoddle will be free  8)

He won't be, he'll cost a bloody fortune! (Yes, I know what you meant, but we still couldn't afford him) And I doubt he'd want to come to a League 1 side, much less one in the basement.

Are there really any reasonable/affordable alternatives to Iffy? To achieve on our budget and with our current crop will require miracles, even in League 2. I don't think the board will sack Iffy for at least another season, and they probably shouldn't unless they can find a experienced replacement.

I'll do it for half of what Iffy is on  :D

So a hand-full of coppers a month then?

Peter Reid,John Gregory, Andy Hessentahler  :shock: ,

that would be an unmitigated disaster, it'd be fantastic if you want to end up in the conference though.

Im With you on this one Sonic. Fatbury, Why dont we try for John Trollope and while we are at it we could get Kenny Allen back in goal.

I wouldn't mind Peter Reid to be honest, although he would be another Andy King.  He'd provide entertainment in the post match interviews though!  That's Iffy's downfall - he's not funny enough...!

Couldn't see either Reid or Gregory being prepared to drop down this far. It would be like an admission of failure and anyway I'd bet Reid's earning far more from his TV punditry than we could afford to pay him as manager.

someone please remove his keyboard. please?

i could always ban him again...

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He'll get on well with Sussex then...

 :x  oi, he is good with his stumps  :D

Amen to that. He made a big difference

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nobody on here is asking why we got rid of king.

Why did we though. Fuck knows.

because he was going to get us relegated. we needed to make a change, it was made and this football club is in such a bad state that we're gonna get relegated anyway.

I think he'd have kept us up but what's done is done. Had to ask though.

naturally.

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Because we'd lost a huge numbers of games in a row and attendances had hit rock bottom, clown.

5 is not a huge number of games, he'd turned around worse runs than that before and our average attendance has dropped since King left, the lowest of the season, rock bottom if you like, was home to Tranmere 4,139.

midweek for a rearanged game.king had to go the fans had turned on him

tranmere was a hastily rearranged midweek game, hardly a fair and accurate representation. iirc, tranmere bought very few as well.

bradford at home had an attendance of 4,590 which was the third lowest and was coincidentally our 5th consecutive defeat and king's last game in charge.

second lowest was the following home game against port vale.

I think he would have turned it around as well but sadly to many short sighted idiots were on his back so for the sake of the football club it was probably right that he went when he did.

I still have alot of time for him and I miss his mentalist post match interviews.

I think though the average attendance for King's 5 home games this year was 5,950, higher than last year.

Our average attendance has now dropped to 5,820 so it's certainly not fair to say attendances had reached rock bottom.

It is true that the board was forced to act with so many fans against him couldn't really keep him but still a shame.

two out of those five were against forest and yeovil who bought 2,500 and 1,350 fans respectively. that bumps up the average a fair bit.

and Swansea who bought 3,000