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Title: Tactics for Tuesday Night
Post by: Crozzer on Sunday, April 9, 2006, 15:05:46
Arguably, if the team play like they did for 45 minutes on Saturday, tactics don't matter, but what should be the strategy?

First half, 4:5:1, battle and contain.
Second Half: 4:4:2, keep the ball on the deck, use the wings.

Should Stroud be given a go in the second half.  Given that Peacock is not fully fit, should Cureton be given the loan striker's role, with Peacok coming on at half time.  Should the reserve striker with the unpronouncable name be given twenty minutes from the start to unsettle Swansea?

Alternatively, should it be 3:5:2 and go at them from the start?

Swansea have to be knocked out of their stride, how is this going to be done, other than the obvious that each player has to put in a confident 110% effort.


Title: Tactics for Tuesday Night
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Sunday, April 9, 2006, 15:09:28
Think we've tried just about every combination this season away from home....none seems to have worked.....trying to avoid another Forest and so preserve the goal difference seems to be the best policy.


Title: Tactics for Tuesday Night
Post by: Crozzer on Sunday, April 9, 2006, 15:16:15
Reg,

If we are that bad we should be going down, relegation is well deserved.  Sounds like we have to battle and frustrate and keep ten players behind the ball, .....with the aim of getting the home support on their own team's backs.

This afternoon, there's some rather outspoken postings on the Adver board,  I am not sure anyone has any hope in a battling performance.  Unless things change many belive we are heading for the Conference, assuming survival at all.


Title: Tactics for Tuesday Night
Post by: sonicyouth on Sunday, April 9, 2006, 15:22:20
it's got to be a simple 4-4-2 and go for it from the start. even if peacock is not fully fit, i'd start him after scoring yesterday.
 
unfortunately reg is pretty much spot on. it could be another horrible defeat on the cards.


Title: Tactics for Tuesday Night
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Sunday, April 9, 2006, 15:24:41
I'm firmly of the school of thought that next season will be a fight for retaining league status.....Torquay could have stayed up last season on the last day....lost a couple of key players in Russell and Akinfenwa, but kept a good young manager.

  The chairman Bateson though has always believed in not spending on wages, and so recruits were of the standard of Matt Hewlett.  This has cost them, especially losing Constantine mid season.

 We will lose 3 or 4 and they wont be replaced with anything other than kids or loans..its frightening.


Title: Tactics for Tuesday Night
Post by: Tails on Sunday, April 9, 2006, 15:52:05
So because it happened to Torquay it's gonna happen to us? Fuck off is it. We wont know till next season and we see what team we have.

Frustrate Swansea for as long as possible. Dive whenever anyone touches us (hey, worked for Hartlepool). Whatever it takes to get some points.


Title: Tactics for Tuesday Night
Post by: Crozzer on Sunday, April 9, 2006, 15:56:31
Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"
I'm firmly of the school of thought that next season will be a fight for retaining league status.....Torquay could have stayed up last season on the last day....lost a couple of key players in Russell and Akinfenwa, but kept a good young manager.

  The chairman Bateson though has always believed in not spending on wages, and so recruits were of the standard of Matt Hewlett.  This has cost them, especially losing Constantine mid season.

 We will lose 3 or 4 and they wont be replaced with anything other than kids or loans..its frightening.




Sadly, I think you are correct, I recall Manchester United playing reserves in the cup and having trouble with Exeter.  Also, Wycombe gave us a soccer lesson in the League Cup.  I don't think that the standard in Div II is much different to that in Div I.  The teams coming up from Div I, recently, have done well.


Title: Tactics for Tuesday Night
Post by: BenSTFC on Sunday, April 9, 2006, 16:20:51
Tuesday could go one of three ways (no shit),  We could either do a Nottingham Forest and get completley pissed upon, Or with the help of the gods we get a spunky 1-0 win in the dying seconds with the ball bouncing off benjamins nose.

However as Swansea are incredibly well supported, Evans willl have a torrid time as he cannot play in front of a big crowd and nor can any of our players for that matter, so i feel another Forest on the cards, however i will be there supporting the lads, which is all we can do at the moment.


Title: Tactics for Tuesday Night
Post by: Dazzza on Sunday, April 9, 2006, 16:24:44
It is a worry.

Swansea, Southend, Hartlepool, Hull, Plymouth, Donny, Brighton have all come up from league two and done very well.

I've said it before clubs in league two look to have generally got their houses in order after the ITV digital collapse.  There’s not a great financial gap and you only have to look at the Conference and the sides coming up nowadays to see that there’s a real danger.

With the transfer market quite an open gambit these days it’s possible to put together a promotion winning team with astuteness and not breaking the bank in the process.  Grimsby being a good example who were close to pinching Whalley from under our noses in the summer.

The key is retaining what we have but even then is that going to be good enough?

On current evidence you have to wonder.  Iffy is going to have to be brutal in the summer and try and re-build around what he has left.  From those that have signed with a few decent additions we could have a side that should secure mid-table security.


Title: Tactics for Tuesday Night
Post by: Tails on Sunday, April 9, 2006, 16:32:02
Quote from: "BenSTFC"
Tuesday could go one of three ways (no shit),  We could either do a Nottingham Forest and get completley pissed upon, Or with the help of the gods we get a spunky 1-0 win in the dying seconds with the ball bouncing off benjamins nose.

However as Swansea are incredibly well supported, Evans willl have a torrid time as he cannot play in front of a big crowd and nor can any of our players for that matter, so i feel another Forest on the cards, however i will be there supporting the lads, which is all we can do at the moment.


12/13000 isnt that much and they've played infront of it before and been fine....


Title: Tactics for Tuesday Night
Post by: PHIL!!!! on Sunday, April 9, 2006, 16:41:48
Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"
I'm firmly of the school of thought that next season will be a fight for retaining league status.....Torquay could have stayed up last season on the last day....lost a couple of key players in Russell and Akinfenwa, but kept a good young manager.

  The chairman Bateson though has always believed in not spending on wages, and so recruits were of the standard of Matt Hewlett.  This has cost them, especially losing Constantine mid season.

 We will lose 3 or 4 and they wont be replaced with anything other than kids or loans..its frightening.


And your quite good at predicting what will happen  :(  Great :surrender:


Title: Tactics for Tuesday Night
Post by: magic8ball on Sunday, April 9, 2006, 16:43:34
Can anybody fill me in on the current contract status of some of the players? I'm talking about the ones we might actually want to keep.

Peacock I thought had an 18 month contract? Cureton?

I honestly don't think we'll be struggling next year, whatever division we are in. But I must admit, I'm not sure Iffy has the correct qualities that are required.

Seems to me that contacts are so important. Any success under King was down to Sam Parkin, and any decent loan signings we got in. The guy seemed to be friendly with some big managers in the Prem, and got us the likes of Davis, Milner, Holmes etc.

Now being a young manager, with contacts seemingly at Watford and Wendy, I hope he can cut it when it comes to wheeling and dealing, or we may well be stuffed.


Title: Tactics for Tuesday Night
Post by: magic8ball on Sunday, April 9, 2006, 16:44:16
PS - If we lose players, and they are replaced with ones who actually give a shit, I'm all for it.


Title: Tactics for Tuesday Night
Post by: flammableBen on Sunday, April 9, 2006, 16:45:43
5-1-4

Hoof it long.


Title: Tactics for Tuesday Night
Post by: Tails on Sunday, April 9, 2006, 16:45:51
Our record under Iffy isn't too bad this season, and remember the first 3 or 4 games where we only picked up a point he was still adjusting Kings team.

10 losses
8 wins
12 draws

30 games – 36 points.

1.2 points per game.

A more experienced manager would be better for a fight next season, but Iffy deserves another crack.


Title: Tactics for Tuesday Night
Post by: PHIL!!!! on Sunday, April 9, 2006, 16:45:52
We should definetly stick to 442. No doubt about it.

The team should be:

Evans, Jenkins, Nicho, O'Hanlon, Migs, Shakes, Brown, Platt, Diagouraga, Cureton, Peacock

Subs:
Bulman, Smith, Ifil, Whalley, Roberts


Title: Tactics for Tuesday Night
Post by: Sippo on Sunday, April 9, 2006, 16:50:31
If we do start with 442 we'll be ok. I don't want us to start negative otherwise it wil be another forest. We need to remain positive. We need to attack them, if we let them come to us they will destroy us. I seriously think we can get something from this game.


Title: Tactics for Tuesday Night
Post by: magic8ball on Sunday, April 9, 2006, 16:53:15
Quote from: "PHIL!!!!"
We should definetly stick to 442. No doubt about it.

The team should be:

Evans, Jenkins, Nicho, O'Hanlon, Migs, Shakes, Brown, Platt, Diagouraga, Cureton, Peacock

Subs:
Bulman, Smith, Ifil, Whalley, Roberts


I'd agree with this almost. Platt has to be at the back somewhere, he looked well out of his depth in midfield yesterday, maybe didn't have enough room to play.

Jenkins needs to go. Smith is better at full-back than wing-back.


Title: Tactics for Tuesday Night
Post by: DV on Sunday, April 9, 2006, 17:30:38
Need to go 4-4-2....4-5-1 is a no no we cant afford to not win this game....we should start with the highest tempo possible and try to get an early goal

Evans

Jenkins
O'Hanlon
Platt
Nicholas

(although given a choice, id drop 3 of those 4 defenders...but we have no replacements)

Smith (Swansea have good wingers, he will offer slow old man Jenks more defensive cover)
Touami
Miglioranzi (why not eh?)
Brown

Cureton
Peacock


Title: Tactics for Tuesday Night
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Sunday, April 9, 2006, 17:33:40
personally id put 3 up front. what is the point of playing a negative formation or 4-4-2 that really wont get us anywhere. we have to win and we wont without playing attacking football.


Title: Tactics for Tuesday Night
Post by: Tails on Sunday, April 9, 2006, 19:07:36
Last time we tried 4-3-3 we were shit.


Title: Tactics for Tuesday Night
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Sunday, April 9, 2006, 19:19:24
Quote from: "Tails"
Our record under Iffy isn't too bad this season, and remember the first 3 or 4 games where we only picked up a point he was still adjusting Kings team.

10 losses
8 wins
12 draws

30 games – 36 points.

1.2 points per game.

A more experienced manager would be better for a fight next season, but Iffy deserves another crack.


 I would suggest that Iffy's future is in the balance....to his advantage is that he's relatively cheap, but we'll stop paying King in the summer which will free up something more like a proper wage.

 If the fans start having a go at the Board, then they'll throw Iffy to the dogs, just as they did with King....then it'll be another cheap option.


Title: Tactics for Tuesday Night
Post by: Whits on Sunday, April 9, 2006, 19:24:09
i'm taking my boots on tuesday, just incase they need someone to replace big trev up front. fancy my chances of a hat trick or a heart attack  :D  :?


Title: Tactics for Tuesday Night
Post by: flammableBen on Sunday, April 9, 2006, 19:25:56
or both


Title: Tactics for Tuesday Night
Post by: Sippo on Sunday, April 9, 2006, 19:27:10
you can't do any worse whits!  :wink:  If you have a heart attack you'll have still have more movement than the team  :)


Title: Tactics for Tuesday Night
Post by: DMR on Sunday, April 9, 2006, 19:29:07
I'd like a 4-4-2 but I sincerely doubt Iffy will get it right.


Title: Tactics for Tuesday Night
Post by: McLovin on Sunday, April 9, 2006, 22:09:07
DV... stop suggesting Migs, please. He's been shit, and there is no reason  to drop the black bloke or Whalley.


Title: Tactics for Tuesday Night
Post by: Spud on Sunday, April 9, 2006, 22:23:38
Quote from: "Dave Blackcurrant"
DV... stop suggesting Migs, please. He's been shit, and there is no reason  to drop the black bloke or Whalley.


 :thumbs:  Toumani was ace on Saturday.


Title: Tactics for Tuesday Night
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Sunday, April 9, 2006, 23:34:12
I suggest that we go with the tactic of scoring more goals than Swansea.

NMH


Title: Tactics for Tuesday Night
Post by: DV on Monday, April 10, 2006, 11:45:41
Quote from: "Dave Blackcurrant"
DV... stop suggesting Migs, please. He's been shit, and there is no reason  to drop the black bloke or Whalley.


the bloke can play football, plus he goes short for the ball and takes it off the defence, sometimes....something we didnt do once on Saturday....


Title: Tactics for Tuesday Night
Post by: DMR on Monday, April 10, 2006, 11:47:04
No he's an American ponce who flatters to deceive


Title: Tactics for Tuesday Night
Post by: DV on Monday, April 10, 2006, 11:52:31
Quote from: "dave_m_russell"
No he's an American ponce who flatters to deceive


Oppsed to the rest of our team who play well every week?


Title: Tactics for Tuesday Night
Post by: le god cuervo on Monday, April 10, 2006, 12:36:44
I'd drop ifil & play migz as sweeper to be honest. stick with 5-3-2, curo & peacock up front. maybe shakes in for CCP, nicholas in for brown?


Title: Tactics for Tuesday Night
Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, April 10, 2006, 12:38:15
Quote from: "dave_m_russell"
No he's an American ponce who flatters to deceive


he's brazilian!


Title: Tactics for Tuesday Night
Post by: Foggy on Monday, April 10, 2006, 12:43:48
Quote from: "sonicyouth"
Quote from: "dave_m_russell"
No he's an American ponce who flatters to deceive


he's brazilian!


As in a cunt with a strip of hair down the middle ?


Title: Tactics for Tuesday Night
Post by: magic8ball on Monday, April 10, 2006, 12:46:45
I hope we attack them.

I really can't see our defence being good enough to keep a clean sheet, therefore, we have to score!


Title: Tactics for Tuesday Night
Post by: Luci on Monday, April 10, 2006, 12:48:33
Quote from: "sonicyouth"
Quote from: "dave_m_russell"
No he's an American ponce who flatters to deceive


he's brazilian!


http://www.swindontownfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Squad/SeniorSquadDetail/0,,10341~8806,00.html

I think he just lived in New York or something.....


Title: Tactics for Tuesday Night
Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, April 10, 2006, 13:23:29
Quote
He also possesses a fine shot, which on regular occasions has forced opposing keepers to pick the ball out of the top corner of the net.


 :soapy tit wank:


Title: Tactics for Tuesday Night
Post by: Luci on Monday, April 10, 2006, 13:25:47
Brazilian Born American holding an Italian passport!

Odd combination!


Title: Tactics for Tuesday Night
Post by: Sade on Monday, April 10, 2006, 14:34:31
I thought it was canadian accent ?  :D  I spose you can't really tell the difference.


Title: Tactics for Tuesday Night
Post by: Tails on Monday, April 10, 2006, 14:45:01
You can easily tell the difference!


Title: Tactics for Tuesday Night
Post by: singingiiiffy on Monday, April 10, 2006, 14:46:11
win 7-0 combined with defeats for Hartlepool and wasall and we are out the relegation zone. lets go all out attack


Title: Tactics for Tuesday Night
Post by: adje on Monday, April 10, 2006, 15:48:57
3-5-2
Evans;O'Hanlon,CCP,Nicholas;Shakes,Dododododouagaraga,Jenkins,Paul Smith,Stroud;Jutkiewicz,Peacock.Subs;Cureton,Roberts,McPhee,Whalley,Brown
Fuck defending-we're no good at it!Oh and Jenks to take the pens!