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None of our current squad are ever going to get near this, but after watching Mr Goofy, Ronaldinho last night got me thinking, could he become the greatest player ever seen? They guy has pace, power, dribbling ability, sublime skills and can pass the ball. He did 5 backheels in the first 20 minutes and everyone of them found a team mate.

Clearly Pele or Maradona, maybe Cruyff are regarded as greats but could this guy be better?

No.

Lee Peacock is better 8)

Yes but you think Andy King is a good football manager so your opinion is null and void young man!! :wink:

No it's not because Andy King is a good football manager but Ronaldinho is not even close to being one of the all time greats.

prove it.

Certainly on the way to becoming the greatest player of his generation but when you rank him alongside Pele and Maradona he’s not in the same class.

I’d put him on a par with Ronaldo a few years ago.  Different sort of players but he’s a long way to go and enough time for his stock to drop like the chubby forward’s has in recent years.

I'd agree with that. I saw some of the Barcelona game yesterday and wasn't really impressed by Ronaldinho, a couple of half decent backheels but nothing amazing and he seemed to be delighted with a awful tackle he did.

Both sides were poor to be honest, a complete contrast to last years classic. Hopefully Barcelona will go out next round.

 For me greatness isn't only about what you do on the pitch in your career, but its also what you can give back after it.....in this regard Pele stands alone, as not only a great player but a great ambassador for the beautiful game....

 Maybe Ronaldinho can achieve this.

I don't think we can have a thread about the greatest player ever, without talking about Dwight Yorke :D

"Sir" Bobby Moore.............

Matt Hewlett  :shock:

OK, I'm getting my coat.

 Unfortunately its looking increasingly likely that the Hewlett Gurney head to head want happen next season as MH will be in the Conference.

Crouch had a wonderful chance to put Liverpool 1 nil up tonight when he fucked up a chance Mr Bean would have scored.

Because of him the European Champions are out.

Agree with that although the erection dysfunction ads while a worthy cause I'm sure were a shame to see especially as it was a forced financial move.

Lot of time for the Goat and Zola as well in that respect.

  Erectile dysfunction is a problem to many ordinary fellas....you just need to read this site :wink: .....shows Pele to be a man of the people.

Certainly the most skillfull player yes, but best.....one of the....probably not the.

Id put him on par with Henry right now

I personally don't like the guy.
But that's my opinion. Okay he can do some great things with a football but he also makes a lot of mistakes.

anyone can do backheels, especially when you're doing them to someone like eto'o who is going to get on the end of them.

he needs to absolutely boss more games, which he doesnt do, perhaps he doesnt need to playing in such line-ups for club and country.

and he doesnt score enough goals.

that said, we are witnessing undoubtedly a great of the generation, any player who can carve themself their own position must be brilliant. cantona did it, rooney has to a certain extent.... but dinho really has really made that 'gap' his own.

Don't be ridiculous, they needed 3 more goals to go through. Why not blame Carragher or Garcia for their misses. They could've done with Hyppia being fit too.

 :fishing:  too easy!

the greatest player ive ever seen has to be Eric Sabin! pure class!

20 goals in 29 appearances from midfield this season, not enough goals?
Hmmmmm not a bad return really is it?

agree that he needs to be more involved in games to be regarded amongst the very best, how old is he? there's time to improve yet i reckon.

Really needs to impress me in this World Cup before I can personally credit him with that status in my mind

Think he is 26, should have 3 more world cups in him yet!

I don't think the move to PSG  from Gremio did him any favours either.

French football is a decent standard no doubt but it's not quite up there as Italian, Spanish and English football in terms of quality and profile.

Rumour has it he had a bit of a taste for the old French nightlife in Paris and had a few public tit for tats with his then manager.

Anyone have a good alternative shout for the title of greatest player of the current generation?

has he really only played 29 times this season?

Ronaldinho's scoring record is not really that impressive bearing in mind he's more of a forward than a midfielder. Also he plays in the Spanish league which has a lot more crap teams than the premiership.

Not a patch on Bobby Howe nor Leigh Barnard.

NMH

Greatest ever player? Well my first reaction was that it's me, but in retrospect, Reeves for King does possess a mean slide tackle and a ginger afro. So I'd say RFK.

Henry....

Mr Zidane for me.

Or Tugay.

I'll go for Rooney considering he's only 20 he is unbelieveably good. Plus he's not a total prick like Ronaldinho.

George Best was the greatest player of all time imo,simply because there was nothing he couldn't do and he did things that no-one else could.

And what makes Ronaldinho a total prick?.

Robbie Savage............ :(

Everything.

Well explained.  :roll:

I bet he thinks the same about you Ben  :D

He plays for Barcelona, he's Brazilian, he's so ugly he hurts my eyes and any little thing he does people go crazy about even if it's nothing special at all. There's nothing to like.

Apparently,Real Madrid didnt sign him cos he was "too ugly".So they signed pretty boy Beckham.Result -more shirts sold,less trophies won.Now that even his free-kicks and corners are shite,what is the point of Beckham?

Tugay?????? Tugay?????????????????????????

Zidane in his prime is the best player of the last 20 years in my opinion. As demonstrated t'other night though he's way over the hill these days.

My top 3 players in the world currently:

Ronaldinho
Henry
Gerrard

Zidane was good, but over the last 20 years I have to throw Alan Shearer into the hat. Goals, Goals and more Goals. Pure class...

Shearer as an Englsh ledgend, thats for sure, but I think he lacked the tecnical ability to be rated in the same bracket as the likes of Zidane.

Shearers finish for the 4th v teh dutch in euro 96 is one of my defining great football moments

Is see what your saying, but Shearer wasnt paid to be a fancy nancy boy with skills. He was paid to score goals.

He did it in an old-fashioned no nonsense way, but he did the job so well....not the most skillfull player but probably most effective.....

My empty plate of fish and chips talks more sense than you!! Honestly I have never hear so much mince in my whole life! When you type, does brown stuff seep out of your nails?

has anyone mentioned George Best yet? i haven't been bothered to read through this thread

:fishing:

Ha ha! Legend Ben, you got me! :mrgreen:

Alcohol fuelled rant so I must apologise! :oops:

Im glad he typed before me.

paul scholes most underated player of this generation

For similar reasons, Romario is worth considering. I believe he is about 40 now, and is still playing well for Vasco, although at a somewhat slower pace than in his prime.