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Title: Iffy last night. Post by: Johno on Wednesday, March 8, 2006, 07:54:37 in my opinion he got it wrong. as soon as as i heard it was a 433, i was wondering what the hell he was doing. by the state of the pitch you may understand, but when we bought shakes on we played better with wingers. Then he took migs off, the only one really tackling and getting in. He got it tactically wrong last night and we lost.
i like the guy and defintely don't hate him, he just got it wrong last night imo. Title: Iffy last night. Post by: Batch on Wednesday, March 8, 2006, 09:25:32 Agreed. I assumed we were going hoofball with that midfield, but Iffy was moaning about going long too early....
The test will be if he learns from this mistake. Title: Re: Iffy last night. Post by: PHIL!!!! on Wednesday, March 8, 2006, 09:42:28 Quote from: "Johno" in my opinion he got it wrong. as soon as as i heard it was a 433, i was wondering what the hell he was doing. by the state of the pitch you may understand, but when we bought shakes on we played better with wingers. Then he took migs off, the only one really tackling and getting in. He got it tactically wrong last night and we lost. i like the guy and defintely don't hate him, he just got it wrong last night imo. Agree with this too. Just stick to 442 i reckon. We've played 442 for most of the season and the players seem to prefer it more as we have more width and speed. Title: Iffy last night. Post by: DMR on Wednesday, March 8, 2006, 10:49:00 He's got it wrong more often than not recently. The team spirit which he galvanized has gone too. As I said back in September, nice bloke and deserves a chance but won't keep us up.
Title: Iffy last night. Post by: Johno on Wednesday, March 8, 2006, 16:26:41 yep, team spirit has gone, by the looks of it.
Title: Iffy last night. Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, March 8, 2006, 16:58:10 It's because Big Ron isn't around to tell the blacks what to do
Title: Iffy last night. Post by: SwindonStevo on Wednesday, March 8, 2006, 17:00:29 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:
Title: Iffy last night. Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Wednesday, March 8, 2006, 19:11:02 Iffy gets it wrong just like King always used too! he plays silly formations for no apparent reason. players play out of positions is it any wonder we haven't progressed a great deal under him? a bit harsh maybe i do think he has made a difference but unfortuantly its not been enough!
Title: Iffy last night. Post by: Tails on Wednesday, March 8, 2006, 19:27:54 Agree, but he's a better manager than King in many aspects. King was an experienced manager, Iffy is still learning. I can see why he put 3 up front, what fucking options did we have in midfield?
Title: Iffy last night. Post by: STFC Village on Wednesday, March 8, 2006, 20:14:13 Quote from: "simon pieman" It's because Big Ron isn't around to tell the blacks what to do :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: Soapiest Of Tit WanksTitle: Re: Iffy last night. Post by: Fred Elliot on Wednesday, March 8, 2006, 21:21:44 Quote from: "Johno" in my opinion he got it wrong. as soon as as i heard it was a 433, i was wondering what the hell he was doing. by the state of the pitch you may understand, but when we bought shakes on we played better with wingers. Then he took migs off, the only one really tackling and getting in. He got it tactically wrong last night and we lost. i like the guy and defintely don't hate him, he just got it wrong last night imo. :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: Fuck me Johno ..................... were you really there ? Village Idiot ? Title: Iffy last night. Post by: Johno on Wednesday, March 8, 2006, 21:49:47 fuck off mate, just because my opinion is different to yours.
in my opinion he was the only one tackling in the second half, and he kept micheal 'i could run all day and do sod all' pook on? then put brown in CM...when at forest, he was crap there! migs and pook would have been better than brown and pook. brown and pook, that is a crap CM! use your brain if you got one. Title: Iffy last night. Post by: Fred Elliot on Wednesday, March 8, 2006, 22:02:37 Please read my previous thread Johno !
If you dont want to be called "Village Idoit" then dont lable yourself as one mate ! Could you please tell me the last game that Migz was influential in ? Hey ..... I agree that Brown is not a CM and Pook is headless, but we had Whalley on the bench and did not use him. I agree also with you that Iffy got it wrong last night. When the team was read out the groans were audible around the ground ! All I have been saying is that Migz is being picked on a few past glory's and that for a team that need to show some bollocks and scrapping mentality, the attitude he shows, and the performances he puts in are simply not good enough I'm afraid. Title: Iffy last night. Post by: DV on Wednesday, March 8, 2006, 22:04:48 Migz is being picked because we have NO OTHER CENTRAL MIDFIELDERS!!
Who else could we have put in the team instead of Migz.... Again, as said before.....he pulls are strings, when he plays well we play well.... Title: Iffy last night. Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, March 8, 2006, 22:06:28 Quote from: "Fred Elliot" If you dont want to be called "Village Idoit" then dont lable yourself as one mate ! Oi behave.....Johno's had to achieve legendary status to get such a label. You've got a long way to go to get that much respect. Title: Iffy last night. Post by: reeves4england on Wednesday, March 8, 2006, 22:14:27 I agree that Iffy got it wrong. we need 4 in midfield no matter what. This teams plays on the wings and by leaving 3 in the centre he stopped our main attacking threat.
I'm sure he will learn and hopefully we can get the rest of the squad back into action soon Title: Iffy last night. Post by: Johno on Thursday, March 9, 2006, 07:29:12 i agree fred that he has had bad games recently, he has been doing nothing, but on tuesday in the 2nd half he looked to be more influential than pook did by a mile. i agree with what haysie said too. (r4e)
Title: Iffy last night. Post by: DMR on Thursday, March 9, 2006, 10:35:12 Quote from: "simon pieman" It's because Big Ron isn't around to tell the blacks what to do :grin: Close the forum, it's all downhill from here Title: Iffy last night. Post by: red macca on Thursday, March 9, 2006, 18:58:27 Quote from: "DV85" Migz is being picked because we have NO OTHER CENTRAL MIDFIELDERS!! whalley?migz at the back and gurney in midfield there was other optionsWho else could we have put in the team instead of Migz.... Again, as said before.....he pulls are strings, when he plays well we play well.... Title: Iffy last night. Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Thursday, March 9, 2006, 19:11:49 or how about 4-4-2 with Migz and Pook in the centre? why change a formation that has served us well until he decided to change it in typical King fassion?
Title: Iffy last night. Post by: red macca on Thursday, March 9, 2006, 19:34:53 Quote from: "Rich" or how about 4-4-2 with Migz and Pook in the centre? why change a formation that has served us well until he decided to change it in typical King fassion? we went 442 against rotherham and forest and got beat..thats not serving us well i do think 433 was a sign of desperation thoughTitle: Iffy last night. Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Thursday, March 9, 2006, 19:37:54 but before that? i think it was our saviour from the dull days of 4-5-1!
Title: Iffy last night. Post by: Johno on Thursday, March 9, 2006, 19:59:15 442 was when we were palying better with shakes and brown out wide. we played better and picked up points. there was no need for a change like that
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