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Title: Religion
Post by: Boeta on Friday, January 21, 2005, 16:49:04
Bit of a dodgy one I know...

Anyone on here religious?

Greatest method of controlling people ever devised.


Title: Religion
Post by: oxford_fan on Friday, January 21, 2005, 16:50:46
i'm not, and i think anyone that practices organised religion is a bit deluded.


Title: Religion
Post by: Piemonte on Friday, January 21, 2005, 16:53:53
Religion sucks big shitty donkey dick.

cant believe anyone is so niave in this day and age.

the words "fuck you - I wont do what you tell me" spring to mind


Title: Religion
Post by: Amir on Friday, January 21, 2005, 16:56:38
"And when my daughter walks in the room and chose to ask, 'why are all those people on the floor, sleeping, covered in red?', I told they were looking for God but found religion instead."


Title: Religion
Post by: Titch on Friday, January 21, 2005, 16:56:39
Personally i am not!  But i think to call people who are 'deluded' is appaling!  People have all sorts of beliefs for various reasons and they certainly should not be mocked for that!


Title: Religion
Post by: Piemonte on Friday, January 21, 2005, 16:59:18
They are deluded!!

why would anyone believe that an all powerful being controls the world?

If there is, he or she is a bit of a cunt frankly with all the wars, famine and natural disasters that go on

Piemonte in calling god a cunt shocker!


Title: Religion
Post by: Boeta on Friday, January 21, 2005, 17:00:28
Apparently creationism is becoming big again in America. Fucking idiots.


Title: Religion
Post by: Titch on Friday, January 21, 2005, 17:01:08
Quote from: "Piemonte2"
They are deluded!!

why would anyone believe that an all powerful being controls the world?

If there is, he or she is a bit of a cunt frankly with all the wars, famine and natural disasters that go on

Piemonte in calling god a cunt shocker!
That just shows a lack of understanding of the subject of religion quite frankly!


Title: Religion
Post by: Piemonte on Friday, January 21, 2005, 17:01:55
Quote from: "Titch"
Quote from: "Piemonte2"
They are deluded!!

why would anyone believe that an all powerful being controls the world?

If there is, he or she is a bit of a cunt frankly with all the wars, famine and natural disasters that go on

Piemonte in calling god a cunt shocker!
That just shows a lack of understanding of the subject of religion quite frankly!


explain.

seems like a perfect explanation to me


Title: Religion
Post by: oxford_fan on Friday, January 21, 2005, 17:03:07
Quote from: "Titch"
Personally i am not!  But i think to call people who are 'deluded' is appaling!  People have all sorts of beliefs for various reasons and they certainly should not be mocked for that!
I hope you see the irony in that comment.

I'm not 'mocking' them, although to be honest saying I think that what they believe in is utter bollocks could be seen as an insult.

I have no problem with people practising their religion, even if I do think its meaningless, as it doesn't do any harm to me.

Religion shouldnt be about bowing down to some almighty god, it should lose that aspect and be centered around self-improvement of the individual.


Title: Religion
Post by: oxford_fan on Friday, January 21, 2005, 17:04:31
Quote from: "Titch"
Quote from: "Piemonte2"
They are deluded!!

why would anyone believe that an all powerful being controls the world?

If there is, he or she is a bit of a cunt frankly with all the wars, famine and natural disasters that go on

Piemonte in calling god a cunt shocker!
That just shows a lack of understanding of the subject of religion quite frankly!
not really. the more science progresses, the less value and meaning religion has. it will become completely redundant one day, and its not too far off.


Title: Religion
Post by: Amir on Friday, January 21, 2005, 17:06:04
Quote from: "Piemonte2"
They are deluded!!

why would anyone believe that an all powerful being controls the world?

If there is, he or she is a bit of a cunt frankly with all the wars, famine and natural disasters that go on

Piemonte in calling god a cunt shocker!


The result of the struggle between good and evil(god and the devil) within us all?


Title: Religion
Post by: Boeta on Friday, January 21, 2005, 17:06:12
What pisses me off is the sexism in religions such as Islam.


Title: Religion
Post by: Boeta on Friday, January 21, 2005, 17:07:02
Quote from: "oxford_fan"
Quote from: "Titch"
Personally i am not!  But i think to call people who are 'deluded' is appaling!  People have all sorts of beliefs for various reasons and they certainly should not be mocked for that!
I hope you see the irony in that comment.

I'm not 'mocking' them, although to be honest saying I think that what they believe in is utter bollocks could be seen as an insult.

I have no problem with people practising their religion, even if I do think its meaningless, as it doesn't do any harm to me.

Religion shouldnt be about bowing down to some almighty god, it should lose that aspect and be centered around self-improvement of the individual.

Maybe not so:

Quote from: "Boeta"
Apparently creationism is becoming big again in America. Fucking idiots.


Title: Religion
Post by: Onion_Jimbo on Friday, January 21, 2005, 17:11:12
Scientists get things wrong all the time...

BUM BUM BUUUUM


Title: Religion
Post by: Amir on Friday, January 21, 2005, 17:13:12
Quote from: "Boeta"
What pisses me off is the sexism in religions such as Islam.


Unfortunately alot of religion is stuck in the time it appeared.


Title: Religion
Post by: sonicyouth on Friday, January 21, 2005, 17:32:18
I'm not religious, but my Dad was raised a devout hardcore mad Catholic (that's Ireland for you) and my Mum's a bit religious, but both my parents decided that despite being baptised into Catholicism they wouldn't force a religious upbringing on me. I'm thankful for that.

My views have changed over the past few years, when I was younger - and stupider - I was very much an atheist and refused to even accept the remote possibility of God existing, but as I grew up a bit and went through some tougher times in my life, whilst I didn't become religious at all I became open the possibility. I now consider myself agnostic but unlikely to convert to religion at any time.

Also, my best friend throughout secondary school and beyond is a Vicar's son and his Dad is one of the nicest people I know. Never once has he bought religion up in conversation with me and is very relaxed about everything, although I do feel slightly frightened of using 'Jesus' as a curse in his house :]

Overall I don't really have a problem with religion, people are welcome to believe what they like. In some ways I'm envious, having something to believe in gives people something to fall back on and stuff, I don't have that and sometimes wish I did. Mostly I'm glad that my parents left me to my own devices and I've come to my own conclusions about religion, one I'm happy with. That's not to say that religion is good though, because so many war's and so much death has been caused in the name of various God's only a fool could say religion is the only true good in the world.


Title: Religion
Post by: Johno on Friday, January 21, 2005, 18:09:32
well, i am actually a christian. you might be shocked by that or whatever. just keep the insults down.  :wink:


Title: Religion
Post by: Simon Pieman on Friday, January 21, 2005, 18:11:36
i think religion gives people security in their life. A bit like Alcoholics Anomynous does to those trying to stay sober


Title: Religion
Post by: Sade on Friday, January 21, 2005, 22:17:37
I am a christian too. I went to a religious primary school, so when I was younger I really believed in god because we were made to. :)
But as I'm getting older, and Now have proper r.e lessons at school I don't think I feel that strongly about it.Like somebody said, If there is a god.why do really bad things happen where thousands of people lose their lifes :(


Title: Religion
Post by: Simon Pieman on Friday, January 21, 2005, 22:20:52
why does god HAVE to be a good guy?


Title: Religion
Post by: Sussex on Friday, January 21, 2005, 22:59:13
Quote from: "simon pieman"
why does god HAVE to be a good guy?


Oooh, controversial Simon P!

I, like Sade, was made to go to a religious primary school. It was Catholic and I hated it. Filled my head full of crap and now I suppose I'd be classed the same as SY. Agnostic.