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Title: Slitty wrists V's Happy clappers
Post by: BANGKOK RED on Tuesday, October 26, 2010, 19:52:08
Leefer is right.

Let's keep it in one place rather than polluting every match day thread with the same old rhetoric.

My glass is half full.


Title: Re: Slitty wrists V's Happy clappers
Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, October 26, 2010, 19:55:32
Mine was half empty so I topped it up with vodka. It was red wine to start off with.

Then in an attempt to make him more cheerful I replaced DV's glass with a pint of my own rancid dehydrated near liver failure night on white ace urine. He's my piss bitch.


Title: Re: Slitty wrists V's Happy clappers
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, October 26, 2010, 19:55:43
my glass is both, simple fractions.


Title: Re: Slitty wrists V's Happy clappers
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, October 26, 2010, 19:58:25
How many goals have we conceded compared to this time last season. I'm too lazy to check, but without this I don't know if my glass is half full or half empty.


Title: Re: Slitty wrists V's Happy clappers
Post by: Posh Red on Tuesday, October 26, 2010, 19:59:39
On the fence.

Some weeks I'm a happy clapper, others the sky is falling in.

I guess the main thing is that I believe there is more cause for optimism for us as a club than there has been for many years.

You have to believe that the current board will get it right on the pitch, sooner or later.


Title: Re: Slitty wrists V's Happy clappers
Post by: london_red on Tuesday, October 26, 2010, 20:09:31
How many goals have we conceded compared to this time last season. I'm too lazy to check, but without this I don't know if my glass is half full or half empty.

In the league, 21 vs 18 this time last year.


Title: Re: Slitty wrists V's Happy clappers
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, October 26, 2010, 20:11:35
In the league, 21 vs 18 this time last year.

Thanks, close then. Though 5 of last years 18 came in the first game you could say the same thi season albeit against Peterborough.

In conclusion I'm still undecided!


Title: Re: Slitty wrists V's Happy clappers
Post by: Bogus Dave on Tuesday, October 26, 2010, 20:13:45
You shouldn't clap your hands with slit wrists, could get messy


Title: Re: Slitty wrists V's Happy clappers
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, October 26, 2010, 20:15:31
Also remember slitters, its down the lane, not across the street


Title: Re: Slitty wrists V's Happy clappers
Post by: BANGKOK RED on Tuesday, October 26, 2010, 20:17:07
You shouldn't clap your hands with slit wrists, could get messy

You could only cut one wrist though, leaving the other to clap freely against your thigh.


Title: Re: Slitty wrists V's Happy clappers
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, October 26, 2010, 20:17:34
You could only cut one wrist though, leaving the other to clap freely against your thigh.

Fence sitter (slitter?)


Title: Re: Slitty wrists V's Happy clappers
Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, October 26, 2010, 20:22:20
shouldn't it be the optimistic vs the pessimistic?
you can be a happy clapper and still think it's not great.


Title: Re: Slitty wrists V's Happy clappers
Post by: joteddyred on Tuesday, October 26, 2010, 20:25:01
How many goals have we conceded compared to this time last season. I'm too lazy to check, but without this I don't know if my glass is half full or half empty.

After 13 games last season we'd conceded 17 goals, compared to 21 this time around.  A couple more interesting or uninteresting facts dependant on how you see them is that after the 13th game last season we sat in 7th place, on 19pts, equal on points to the final play-off place and 11pts from top spot.  We're currently in 15th, on 16pts, 4pts off the final play-off place and 12pts from top spot.  Really not a massive amount in it and shows how tight the league is this season.


Title: Re: Slitty wrists V's Happy clappers
Post by: Dozno9 on Tuesday, October 26, 2010, 20:30:15
If we win 3-0, we're gonna win the league, best team ever, Brazil who?
Lose 0-3 and we're going down, load of shite, worst team ever.


Title: Re: Slitty wrists V's Happy clappers
Post by: woolster on Tuesday, October 26, 2010, 20:34:49
If we win 3-0, we're gonna win the league, best team ever, Brazil who?
Lose 0-3 and we're going down, load of shite, worst team ever.

we cant win a game 3.0, end off :suicide:


Title: Re: Slitty wrists V's Happy clappers
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, October 26, 2010, 22:23:27
While pure maths tells us the glass is both equally full as it is empty when half way, the telling of a story would require the context of whether the glass was either empty before being filled to half way or had in fact been full before some half had been removed.

I happen to be in pretty much the same frame of mind that I was this time last year.  I think we've got more potential than we are showing, I think we can make a push at play offs but expect no more and would be satisfied, if not ecstatic, with being in the hunt for a play off spot with 6 games to go.


Title: Re: Slitty wrists V's Happy clappers
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, October 26, 2010, 22:34:08
I don't have a glass.


Title: Re: Slitty wrists V's Happy clappers
Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, October 26, 2010, 22:54:25
I'd think that a lot of the full/empty perception would come from the shape of the glass. A glass fairly wide at the top and narrow at the bottom would mean that at half capacity the liquid would reach well above half of the height, possibly influencing the owner to subconsciously be edged towards the 'full' observation. Whist a glass which is narrow at the top and wide at the bottom would have a half way point nearer the bottom, maybe setting off more of an internal 'empty' reaction.

The shape of glass a participant of the "glhalfuhempty question" envisions could well be as much an indicator of their attitude as the contents of the glass itself.

I think people should go into more details on the properties of their drinking receptacle, going into particular detail on shape, weight, colour, as well as the perceived full/emptiness of it's contents when at half capacity. As well as being an indicator of their over all attitude it might also give an insight of the internal consistency of their views.


Title: Re: Slitty wrists V's Happy clappers
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, October 27, 2010, 09:20:11
I'd think that a lot of the full/empty perception would come from the shape of the glass. A glass fairly wide at the top and narrow at the bottom would mean that at half capacity the liquid would reach well above half of the height, possibly influencing the owner to subconsciously be edged towards the 'full' observation. Whist a glass which is narrow at the top and wide at the bottom would have a half way point nearer the bottom, maybe setting off more of an internal 'empty' reaction.

The shape of glass a participant of the "glhalfuhempty question" envisions could well be as much an indicator of their attitude as the contents of the glass itself.

I think people should go into more details on the properties of their drinking receptacle, going into particular detail on shape, weight, colour, as well as the perceived full/emptiness of it's contents when at half capacity. As well as being an indicator of their over all attitude it might also give an insight of the internal consistency of their views.

I think what you're getting at here is the classic Piagetian theory of conservation of volume in the concrete operations phase of cognitive development.

Piaget, would present two same size glasses half full with liquid and ask the say 10 year old kid, which contained the most. They're both the same would be the answer. Piaget would then transfer one glass into a tall skinny glass and ask the same question.  The clever kids who understand logic will say they're both the same, those with a less than firm grasp of logic will say the tall skinny one.

There's a few on here who'd favour the tall skinny one  :)


Title: Re: Slitty wrists V's Happy clappers
Post by: Posh Red on Wednesday, October 27, 2010, 09:59:22
Glass, that's a fucking luxury.

We don't have a fucking glass we have to suck on a damp cloth.

All you fucking smug bastards with your fancy drinking recepticals.


Title: Re: Slitty wrists V's Happy clappers
Post by: Bewster on Wednesday, October 27, 2010, 10:29:50
"There's a few on here who'd favour the tall skinny one "

Is that a bit like prefering Tess Daly to Holly Willoughby ?   :bye:


Title: Re: Slitty wrists V's Happy clappers
Post by: jb on Wednesday, October 27, 2010, 10:30:54
"There's a few on here who'd favour the tall skinny one "

Is that a bit like prefering Tess Daly to Holly Willoughby ?   :bye:

Willabooby?


Title: Re: Slitty wrists V's Happy clappers
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, October 27, 2010, 10:57:52
Of course, we need to consider the environmental factors in the discussion.  Should water freeze, it would expand, while significant temp would cause evaporation, meaning the actual displacement could vary and knowing at what point to guage the fullness or emptiness is critical.


Title: Re: Slitty wrists V's Happy clappers
Post by: Samdy Gray on Wednesday, October 27, 2010, 11:06:18
And make sure you're measuring from the centre of the meniscus.


Title: Re: Slitty wrists V's Happy clappers
Post by: BANGKOK RED on Wednesday, October 27, 2010, 11:16:00
Of course, we need to consider the environmental factors in the discussion.  Should water freeze, it would expand, while significant temp would cause evaporation, meaning the actual displacement could vary and knowing at what point to guage the fullness or emptiness is critical.

You assume that the liquid is water.

You also assume that the content in question is liquid.


Title: Re: Slitty wrists V's Happy clappers
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, October 27, 2010, 11:16:19
"There's a few on here who'd favour the tall skinny one "

Is that a bit like prefering Tess Daly to Holly Willoughby ?   :bye:

 There's a few on here, who'd prefer Tom Daly or even John Daly to Holly Willoughby.

 Further, Charl Willoughby to Tess Daly


Title: Re: Slitty wrists V's Happy clappers
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, October 27, 2010, 11:27:32
Is that a bit like prefering Tess Daly to Holly Willoughby ?   :bye:

How could anyone do that. Willoughby is perfect, where as Daly is so brain dead she married the ever annoying Vernon Kay.


Title: Re: Slitty wrists V's Happy clappers
Post by: Bewster on Wednesday, October 27, 2010, 11:58:26
How could anyone do that. Willoughby is perfect, where as Daly is so brain dead she married the ever annoying Vernon Kay.


I didn't say that I'd prefer Tess to Holly, far from it - I just couldn't think of any other tall skinnies to make a comparison.

However, had it been "bird with a long neck" well.. that would have been easy.


Title: Re: Slitty wrists V's Happy clappers
Post by: Bogus Dave on Wednesday, October 27, 2010, 12:04:33

However, had it been "bird with a long neck" well.. that would have been easy.

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Title: Re: Slitty wrists V's Happy clappers
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, October 27, 2010, 12:08:31
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