New beginnings - 25% Truth, 80% Bollocks

[UTR]

Can’t even say I’m disappointed, it’s what I expected

[Posh Red]

I know what you mean, but I can't imagine this particular update is going to make it *easier* for Axis man, is it?

That’s what I thought at first, but I guess it depends on what questions are put to him.
You’d like to think question 1 would be why is there still a delay?

[ChalkyWhiteIsGod]

Genuinely be surprised if the supporters club even ask.

[RobertT]

https://truststfc.com/2023/11/27/stfc-museum-and-county-ground-tours/?mc_cid=95c60234a1&mc_eid=e0574184a9

Now, don't get me wrong, I think the idea of stadium tours and bringing history into the ground is a great idea - in fact, I took my son to a stadium tour of Spurs' new ground (they took my jibes about the trophy display being a bit sparse quite well).  However, is this really something the Trust should be running?

It seems like a perfect idea for a business looking to add some extra Revenue to own and the perfect thing for a non political Supporters Club to help by adding content.  The Trust is not designed or meant for such things, is there a reason they seem to get involved in so much that really has little to do with their two primary objectives - working on a stadium redevelopment and building funds to eventually have shares in the club.

I expressed concerns a few years ago that they'd spread themselves too thin if they didn't just narrow their focus to the ground.  Look what happens when you eyes and efforts are all over the shop, the owners get a free ride.

[tans]

Consider me shocked that this has not happened.

[ChalkyWhiteIsGod]

https://truststfc.com/2023/11/27/stfc-museum-and-county-ground-tours/?mc_cid=95c60234a1&mc_eid=e0574184a9

Now, don't get me wrong, I think the idea of stadium tours and bringing history into the ground is a great idea - in fact, I took my son to a stadium tour of Spurs' new ground (they took my jibes about the trophy display being a bit sparse quite well).  However, is this really something the Trust should be running?

No. Its something that a fully functioning competently ran football club should be doing themselves with staff, not relying on volunteers.

I wonder what that's like.

[STFC_Manc]

https://truststfc.com/2023/11/27/stfc-museum-and-county-ground-tours/?mc_cid=95c60234a1&mc_eid=e0574184a9

Now, don't get me wrong, I think the idea of stadium tours and bringing history into the ground is a great idea - in fact, I took my son to a stadium tour of Spurs' new ground (they took my jibes about the trophy display being a bit sparse quite well).  However, is this really something the Trust should be running?

It seems like a perfect idea for a business looking to add some extra Revenue to own and the perfect thing for a non political Supporters Club to help by adding content.  The Trust is not designed or meant for such things, is there a reason they seem to get involved in so much that really has little to do with their two primary objectives - working on a stadium redevelopment and building funds to eventually have shares in the club.

I expressed concerns a few years ago that they'd spread themselves too think if they didn't just narrow their focus to the ground.  Look what happens when you eyes and efforts are all over the shop, the owners get a free ride.

They do have 10/11 board members, too many cooks can cause issues?  The museum is a charity with it's own trustees

[RobertT]

And this whole looking at the accounts thing, it's pointless anyway.  The club will rely on commercial sensitivity to prevent any real details from being reviewed or published.  A look at some, likely well scrubbed, financial data won't give much insight anyway.

What the Trust should be pushing for, given the stated desire of the club to be open/honest/transparent, is for the club to produce the most detailed accounts possible in the public domain and use other clubs to give examples of what that means.  If the club wants to hide behind secrecy instead, let that be on public record.  Get them to show their hypocrisy in public statements vs actual documents.

I still think they (Trust STFC) should only be doing two things right now - working on a Ground Development plan and working on an investment strategy to get control or some degree of equity of the club itself.

[RobertT]

oh, and I am a member, and I did e-mail such thoughts (on the accounts side).  Never received a response though.  Live too far away to be on the Board, before someone suggests I get more involved.

[STFC_Manc]

And this whole looking at the accounts thing, it's pointless anyway.  The club will rely on commercial sensitivity to prevent any real details from being reviewed or published.  A look at some, likely well scrubbed, financial data won't give much insight anyway.

What the Trust should be pushing for, given the stated desire of the club to be open/honest/transparent, is for the club to produce the most detailed accounts possible in the public domain and use other clubs to give examples of what that means.  If the club wants to hide behind secrecy instead, let that be on public record.  Get them to show their hypocrisy in public statements vs actual documents.

I still think they (Trust STFC) should only be doing two things right now - working on a Ground Development plan and working on an investment strategy to get control or some degree of equity of the club itself.

I'm not sure I've ever seen anything on your last point on investing into the club? Trusts should be doing more than just ground development, as that is being lead by the club?

[Frigby Daser]

Has anyone considered the possibility that the reason the Trust don’t have access to the accounts is that a buyer may have a period of exclusivity that prevents disclosure to a third party, such as the Trust?
 

[tans]

Haha this CEO on the OSC.

Straight out there denying the trust statement

Saying he is angry about what is being inferred

[Hyabb17]

Haha this CEO on the OSC.

Straight out there denying the trust statement

He’s not happy at all.

[theakston2k]

If this guy is really involved in running the club then we are fucked!

[Frigby Daser]

STFC board official in “being an aggressive nob” shocker. Comes across as similarly arrogant and dopey as Z Austin.