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My best wishes to Ling, but we need another of these threads now.

Which realistic targets are available?

TIM SHERWOOD AND/OR CHRIS RAMSEY

Who got rejected last time?

Will they reapply?

Me

Expect us to do a Chelsea now and maybe put Williams in the hot seat until the end of the season.

It's a shit time for a new manager to come in and wouldn't be surprised if someone just got the job until May.

Why is it a bad time? They've finished Christmas with their families and at Swindon they won't deal with the training ground or transfers (probably).

Perfect time.

A perfect time is June, not in January with less than a month for the window to shut (by the time this settles down) and a team just starting to come together but still only 5 points off relegation.

Lots of decisions to be made in the next 4 weeks which is why I can see Williams getting it until the end of the season, some stability.

Don't want Williams as we will be stuck with even more slow,sideways and back passing.
That was something Lingy was trying (allegedly) to eradicate.

Gutted, was really pleased Ling had come back, wish him luck in recovering

 Well this was my take....after Fleetwood.

 
So 24 games gone as predicted....the only fly in this ointment seem to be the fella who's come in to do the stuff because Power doesn't have the time. Apart from this, haven't got a clue.

Nothing surprises me with STFC. Just worked out that since I've been going in the Hoddle era we've had 17 different permanent managers and 7 or 8 caretakers. 

It won't be Power. It's also very doubtful to be Williams, considering he wasn't willing to even be caretaker when Cooper left.

Chris Ramsey?

Cooper hasn't found a new job yet has he?

Agreed. If it's in-house then it's Embleton... and that would one hell of a risk.

Perhaps someone 'better' than us might fancy a 5-month gig.

Ian Holloway or Neil Warnock please Mr Power.

That would be fucking hilarious!!!!!

 THe appointment of Lingy told us that Power was looking for a low wage bargain, and I don't suppose that is any different now. Rambo could be realistic I suppose.

fucking hope not

Ian Holloway? Please tell me that's a joke.

Malpas

A real shame personally for Lingy. As for its impact, we really have no idea what it means as we have no idea what, if any, influence he had.

No good manager is going to touch STFC with a barge pole, since we dismissed PDC we've been chewing up anyone who wants the job and are now looking at 3rd manager this season. Power isn't going to put money into a named manger or the spine of the team. So barring a take over from a very wealth consortium its not looking good for the town or its fans. If we avoid the drop them we should all go out on the lash because it's going to take something special. The only saving grace is that we haven't reached the transfer window so a new manager may know a few players to give us lift but I feel (glad to be wrong) its going to be another, from inside the club appointment. Happy new year.

One of the advantages of having a management team, is that when one bit drops out it should be reasonably painless to find a replacement, provided they're prepared to subscribe to the model.

I'm gonna be exhilarated, ecstatic and deliriously happy when you are wrong. Again.

Well wasn't expecting that.

It that the shortest spell as permanent manager?

Ian Culverhouse!

Yep.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b2/[email protected]/[email protected])

Cometh the hour...

Nijholt please.

Well at least he fits the apparently essential alumni requirement.

:suicide:

well, Jose Mourinho isn't doing much. ;)

he certainly wouldn't be the special one here though

Hope Powell - be brave

I Hope Wiliams doesn't revert us to the 1 up front bollocks.

All fits for Paul Jewell to come in....

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I know the bookies odds for these appointments are bollocks, but did have to chuckle when cooper was quoted at 8/1.

Gary Monk was quoted as an early favourite :D

The Bookies: Taking money away from stupid people since forever.

Bring back Paolo.

Over 2 pages without a mention of a certain Exeter manager

Times are a changing

No. Why would it be ?
I'd love him to get it, though I know it's a non starter.

Let's get Sheena in the odds again.

Steve lomas lolololololololololol

Gareth Barry FTW.

OK, that was Tongue in cheek, but I would not be surprised to see him here as player/manager next season. (Assuming his Everton contract expires at the end of this season)

She got binned off in quite spectacular fashion by England. Think it has transpired she was actually a bit shit!

Chris Wilder is doing a good job at Northampton  :D

Hopeless Powell?

Tim Sherwood till the end of the season would do me!!

Can't see that just yet. Roberto Martinez was raving about him at the weekend.

Did you miss his spell at Villa? £47m spent in the summer and look at them

I'd rather have Hart or Malpas back

But his lower league experience would be invaluable. Oh wait. Well at least people have heard of him..

But rather have Malpas or Hart? Sir, I fart in your general direction.

My guess its either Williams or Embleton or both as caretaker managers until the end of the season.

Yea bit hasty with that statement I admit! point stands on Sherwood though

or how about Dean Saunders ;)

Because he's useless.  One of a long line of pathetic English managers (led by the utterly absurd Kevin Keegan) who've managed to convince gullible chairmen and supporters that mindless passion is a viable substitute for competence.

I'm fairly sure that Ian Holloway is out of the management racket and now enjoying the warm, loving embrace of full-time media work.

Did you miss the fact that he didn't sign any of the players he wanted to bring to Villa because he knew the current crop were nowhere near good enough? Did you miss the fact that the players brought in weren't signed by Sherwood? & are you missing the fact of the incredible job Remi Garde has done since Sherwood left?

Villa are probably worse now than they were under Sherwood. I still think he done a half decent job at Spurs if im honest. Villa is a tough job for any manager. Anyway i somehow doubt he will be in the frame. More likely to get a Championship job when one comes along.

I get the fact that Tim Sherwood is Lee Power's buddy and that he's had two chances to manage in the Premier League but could someone provide a strong argument of why he'd be the right man for a struggling League One club?

Okay. We'll forget his numerous successes then.

Apart from Alex Ferguson, I struggle to think of anyone who has had success in every job they've had. Especially those that have moved around a bit. Doesn't make them incapable though in my opinion.

Nope, couldn't even make a weak argument.  Even if he is a good manager at the level he understands (which is hardly proven beyond doubt) he clearly isn't right for us right now.

Pochetino (sp), left Espanyol bottom of the league, hasn't done too badly at Southampton and Spurs. Mark Hughes was a disaster at QPR, and Stoke are playing some great stuff.
Even a certain Mark Cooper before coming to Swindon.
You will rarely find a manager who hasn't had a bad spell, unless like Arriba said, you're Sir Alex or Guardiola.

Its the way it is these days. Managers come and go and certain clubs and set ups suit some managers and not others. For example PDC would struggle under our current set up but under Black/Wray it was perfect for him.

True enough, but if you look at a manger's long term track record, some have a tendency to leave clubs in a better position than they found them, others are the opposite.  Holloway is the latter; sometimes an initial surge on the back of his 'infectious' enthusiasm but invariably ends in tears.

We now have a pretty good idea of the sort of thing we're looking for, to me Chris Ramsey fits the bill.....available, realistic status and would seemingly would fit the Swindon Way.  Of course, we've no idea if he could get on with Power, Williams etc.

Also, by the terms of Sherwood's severance deal, he would have it cut if he took a job within 12 months of his termination.

He's not coming here.

Steve Cotterill will be available soon.

Haha!😄

Imagine Lee Power and Steve Cotterill working alongside each other, it would be like asking Brian Clough to assist Don Revie.

Andrew Steele-Davis seems to have an obsession with mentioning Ian Baraclough on Twitter. Any substance or just trying to make out he knows more than he actually does?

He's not the most reliable journo we've had.

Dunno about anyone else but I find these two bob hacks that seem to have some town fans licking their arses tedious.
They all say the same thing and know about as much as the bloke down the pub anyway. Too many of the fuckers too.

Couldn't agree more, Bassam has left the Adver now, anyone notice? Thought not. Evidence would suggest Lee Power agrees with you as well.

You forgot to mention he's a former player, something that has always served us well and resulted in success. As for getting on with power it shouldn't be that hard all he's got to do is read out the team sheet which gets faxed over from Switzerland on Saturday morning and all the rest is taken care of.

"Dear Advr

I like to resing now please from my job with the Washington Gazette"

Think he was interviewed last time with Ling and Derry according to reports at the time.

ignoring Jimmy Quinn and Iffy. but then we sold all our best players and,, oh..

:)

I deliberately didn't mention Rambo's ex player status, as all the previous incumbents of the post got us relegated. Lingy didn't hang about long enough to find out.

Not sure about manager, but would love to find another right back like him. That's how we used to change the floodlight bulbs back them, give one to the oppo's left winger and he'd change it when Rambo kicked him up there!

I think those reports might have been wide of the mark

looking pretty likely that Williams will get the gig until the end of the season

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/35205581

Well if the appointment of ex players hasn't worked out to well for us, we can always look at the success achived by promoting the next guy up from the back room staff. That's always delivered.

Right, let's attempt to make a pioneering statement to the World, given we have an opportunity to do so in light of the depression issue.

Appoint Stan Collymore, a guy who doesn't dance around subjects and I believe would thin out the ranks of under performers.

It's a fair point, however whereas all our ex players pre Lingy got us relegated, only 2 of the 4 internals got us relegated.  

The exceptions, Ken Beamish who had the advantage of no relegation from Div 4, but did compensate by achieving our lowest ever league finish; and Andy King who actually kept us up one season. The other 2 culprits Les Allen and John Gorman.  Trolly and Iffy had the distinction of being both ex players and internals  :)

Should we be worried if Williams gets the gig....January's games will probably tell us.

Yep looks pretty certain. I'm unsure how I feel about it, but at least I don't get an impending sense of doom Paul Hart style.

We'll be fine mate. Has anyone considered Paolo Do Canio as a real fuck you to the FA.

Almost as if Williams didn't want the job last time because of lack of players available! Now he has a good selection available he might be interested!

Or maybe it was that Power knew wins were unlikely, given the injury crisis we were experiencing, and decided that he didn't want Williams in the firing line?

That and there is someone to help him now as well.

That's basically what Power says at the end of the article. A pretty sensible approach really and is this sort of thing that does give me some faith in Power.

I'll let you know how I feel if the defence goes back to being a 2 goal a game sieve and we play one up front.

hopefully he's learnt something from Ling

Maybe Williams never wanted to play one up-front to begin with, why do people assume it was his decision when he's never even been the manager?

mainly because we continued with it after cooper was sacked.

as I said I'll complain IF we revert

Wasn't it largely as the strikers (bar Ajose) were injured?

So now power, whom actually was the 'manager' at that time when we 'continued with it', did not pick the team at all? It was Williams picking the team all the time, even though though Power was picking the team. Or maybe Power has been picking the starting XI all along until it comes to the time that he actually 'manages' the team, at which point he hands such decisions over to Williams? Just for shits and giggles, perhaps.

Not directed at you personally, Batch!.

Don't mind if it is:)

Thought the consensus amongst local Jurnos was that Power dictated style, and Williams implemented it. Seems to me (based off inference from a few quotes at the time) Cooper changed that and got more involved then paid the price.

Manager = speaks to press where Power was concerned.

Either way, the point was I hope we don't revert to 1 up top under Williams. I doubt we will.

Yeah, "Passing football". I've not seen anywhere asides from unfounded rumour that the formation is dictated by Power, or that Williams insists on 1 up front. Ling played 2 up front and Cooper did also for much of last season.

But yeah, let's hope we don't go 1 up front again, although somebody that isn't Cooper might be able to make it work.

Power:


So an external appointment seems likely. It's either that or he can't remember Embleton's name.

didn't that finish "if that's the way we go"

Is there a link to this interview?

http://www.flicwiltshire.com/power-to-crack-on-with-manager-search-after-vale-clash/

TYVM >>>HNY :)

Back again then Audrey?

The name is appropriate, at least.

Cant see it being anyone other than Williams, his piece today suggests he will do what he is told if Power tells him he's manager then that is what it is, but he is so highly rated we are lucky to have him remember (according to Power)

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/35221259

More of the same boring, sideways and backwards football to come then.   :(

Football fans are a fickle bunch aren't they

I still think Williams would be manager already if he wanted it/Power really wanted him.

Saves everyone from this dicking about.

Well we can forget about Chris Ramsey. Been appointed as technical director at qpr

Saves them paying him off.

It is very quiet on this I wonder if Power is waiting for Williams to win a few games before announcing he has taken the managers job on a 10 year deal

It's been 8 (eight) days since Ling left. 8.

Exactly. Leeds would have gone through at least two more managers in that time. Sort it out, Power!

Just hurry up and name yourself as boss Power. You know you want to.

Am kind of surprised how little speculation and gossip there is on this site regarding this subject.
Has everyone lost interest?

It's going to be Williams.
End of !

I think people have lost interest with gibbering on the internet generally - all the forums I frequent seem to be deathly quiet at the moment?

People going back to talking to each other face to face ? nah never happen

How I wish that were true... :no:

Not really, I think its a combination of having only just gone through it, thinking its Williams whatever, and knowing its pointless speculating on who we'd want as manager as we are unlikely to get an experienced man (OK, yes, Ling was.  I think the circumstances meant he realised he wasn't going to get loads of offers).

Dave Hockaday 'parts company' with Kiddy Harriers... wouldn't be surprised at all to see him rock up at SN1 again.

ASD tweeted that this morning, surprising that as Kiddy are going so well . . . not!!!

No cost and a patchy managerial record, he looks tailor made to join our ex-player failure list.

I'm not sure Power could even find the words to justify appointing a man leaving the foot of the Conference for a supposedly progressive club two leagues above.

He doesn't need to find the words, just someone who's cheap, available and like the last 2 managers desperate to get another managers job.

Aaaah  the wonderful managerial merry go round

They appointed Cooper ;)

Ian Hendon has left Leyton orient, wasn't he linked before?

I genuinely think that Mark Robbins could do a job for us. Did well at Coventry and Rotherham from what I can remember.

At risk of being leapt upon if it's already been answered, does anyone know why it's taking so long to appoint a manager?
Is it unreasonable to think this should have been sorted out by now ?

Especially given the fact that Power has a day-to-day guy now and I'm fairly sure he said this process wouldn't take long (latter point I might have imagined)

Can't say I'm fussed anymore. I can imagine the conversations Power is having:

Hi, Lee Power here. Would you like to be our manager?

Tell me all about it Lee. What's the set up? What would my role be?

Post match interviews mainly. We don't allow any during the week.

And transfers?

No.

Tactics?

No.

Training?

No.

Can I go to training?

You can watch Luke, sure.

But I'm the one who gets canned if it goes wrong?

Yep."

Heck, I might apply.

You're over qualified... next.

Almost as bad as the idiots who think they're ace at football manager applying.

I wonder if that kind of "bants" was ever funny.

It is, wonder if he's trying to convince a manager to come in, surely Williams would have been announced by now if he was first choice/fancied it.

Power is getting cut price management atm, probably wait a while yet before promoting Williams and Embleton, save a few quid.

Luke Williams to take managers job on until end of season

Congratulations on the new job, Luke, and good luck.

meh

That'll get them through the turnstiles.

it's not that, we aren't going to get a name like pdc that adds to the gate.

I'd have preferred bringing in a manager because:
  1. I think Williams goes a bit OTT on the 'pass at all costs' and needs a foil to keep him in check.
 2. I'm not a fan of established coaches stepping up at the same club in general

there are obviously arguments against this, I'm not saying it can't work, blah, blah, blah

I'm fine with that decision.

He does what Power wants with regard to training and football philosophy. Whether fans like that or not it up to them.
Have the club really made an effort to get someone in, or is it that nobody of any real worth would fit into this current model of working and wage structure ?

Or is it to keep some continuity now were playing better..

 Tin hat and sand bags time then...this is either going to be genius or disaster, based on what we've seen so far. 

Is there actually any point in changing anything at the moment? Amongst all the doom and gloom people seem to be ignoring the fact that over the last 10 games we are 2nd in the form table only behind Burton. 7 wins out of the last 10 is too long a run to just be a 'fluke'. We are clearly good enough to stay in the division if we avoid lots of injuries so just get a few bodies in to see the season through and reevaluate in the summer. The squad isn't as bad as many make out, basically short of one player in defence, one in midfield and probably one up top.

Well you're right that it's players we need, Williams said that our aim still has to be staying up so that shows an encouraging, sense of reality.

Williams seems a decent sort, and I'd rather take a chance on him than some old lag who's been on the merry-go-round.  I do wake at night though thinking about the ease with which we've shipped goals this season, hopefully Saturday isn't  :sofa:

We've probably got enough to stay up.

Is anybody actually shocked at this news.

Meh....

This division is turd, there isn't a decent side in it. We aren't brilliant but we're getting better, whereas others aren't really. Good time to try out an inexperienced guy.

I don't know why it's taken so long to announce it.  Unless Power did have someone else in mind that wasn't interested?

He said on the phone in that Williams wasn't sure. I would imagine it was a little bit of out of the comfort zone and he could fuck up future prospects, any promotion whatever the job is like that. That's how I read it anyway.

He's even more of a mandate to lead than Jeremy Corbyn. Poll showing over 65% at the moment which surprised me. Seems like the majority are willing to give him a chance.

http://www.flicwiltshire.com/poll-is-luke-williams-the-right-man-for-the-job/

Absolutely back him 100%. Much rather we give him a chance, and a proper chance at that, than go for a "name" on the merry-go-round. Why can't he be our Karl Robinson or whoever - promising promising coach with a opportunity to really build something.

Didn't Power say if Williams took the job he would bring in a coach to replace him - so maybe we will see an experienced coach brought in to assist

He already has.

Embleton innit

If we go two down early on against the Blades, I can't see them capitulating like Southend and Crewe - more likely to be defeat by 4 or 5.

If (massive 'if') we win, we'll only be 3 points behind the Blades, and as such play-off contenders! Bonkers.

Even though we're closer to the play-offs (points-wise, not places) than the relegation zone, we are a very beatable side, and as such I'm with you Reg - happy that Williams is still mindful of survival.

I feel with us it's like flipping a coin at the minute.

Left side is right.....if we ship early v Blades we are probably looking at a dicking.

We need six or seven wins, I feel we have enough in the tank to get that and the sooner the better.

 By my calculation, we'll have one starter... Turnbull, from the side that won 2-1 at Bramall Lane in May. Nathan I supose might get a game at some point, and Michael Smith is still technically our player, Jermaine Hylton played that night.

What about Kasim ?

What have the romans ever done for us....

Yep. Forgot him.

Safe for the time being, he has just opened up a new academy. Disillusioned with the game has been since he hung up his boots. Only now mentions if after various sackings from management and no new firm offers of work.
 :bullshit: :twat:

Are you Yoda?

Dave Hockaday has been disillusioned with the game since retirement?

What about his continuous employment within the game as a coach ever since?

I wish Williams good luck of course, not sure he's manager material rather than being a good coach but time will tell.

Wasn't it said on the last phone in so Embleton was already here, I thought he was brought in to work with the defence more also so they could have training sessions working on their specialist areas i.e. sessions on defending, attacking etc

They've conceded 3 at home multiple times this season, so are they really all that?

Possibly not, and I'm always erring towards the pessimistic side of things. However, even though they didn't look particularly good at the CG this season, we never looked like getting back into the game after they scored.

A draw away at the STFC graveyard that is Bramall Lane looks like time is telling already...