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Title: Football's biggest punishments
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, June 1, 2005, 17:25:38
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/4597743.stm


Title: Football's biggest punishments
Post by: Anonymous on Wednesday, June 1, 2005, 17:36:20
So its the small clubs that get the severe punishments(points off and demotions) whilst the big clubs just get a fine which they can afford easily. :fu:  FA.


Title: Football's biggest punishments
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, June 1, 2005, 17:38:31
Always good to see us at the top of the headlines.

 That would have been just about 15 years ago to the day, that the decision came out.

 I remember going striaght down my local, and there were about a dozen fellas there leaning on the bar staring into their beer with looks of  faraway disbelief....I went in didn't speak ordered a beer and got staring.


Title: Football's biggest punishments
Post by: BrightonRed on Wednesday, June 1, 2005, 17:40:31
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Swindon won promotion through the play-offs to the old Division One in 1990.

But after being found guilty of illegal payments to players the Wiltshire club were demoted two divisions.

This was reduced to one division on appeal - leaving the Robins exactly where they started.


Could anyone briefly outline what kind of payments these were and why they were so heinous


Title: Football's biggest punishments
Post by: Anonymous on Wednesday, June 1, 2005, 17:43:09
Lets imagine for the sake of argument Yeovil or Scunphorpe had been caught tapping up lets say Brian Howard then I bet they would hae been denied promotion or had points deducted.

Chelsea should either have the league title taken away or be relegated to the UEFFA cup next season.


Title: Football's biggest punishments
Post by: Leggett on Wednesday, June 1, 2005, 17:47:31
dodgy bonuses wasnt it?


Title: Football's biggest punishments
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, June 1, 2005, 17:49:33
Quote from: "BrightonRed"
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Swindon won promotion through the play-offs to the old Division One in 1990.

But after being found guilty of illegal payments to players the Wiltshire club were demoted two divisions.

This was reduced to one division on appeal - leaving the Robins exactly where they started.


Could anyone briefly outline what kind of payments these were and why they were so heinous


  You draw up a contract which states how much you pay a player, which is of course is what the revenue see, then you top it up with undeclared cash payments.

   When Lou Macari was at ManUre....their chairman Louis Edwards was up on a similar charge, but then Louis died and the whole thing was dropped.


Title: Football's biggest punishments
Post by: Anonymous on Wednesday, June 1, 2005, 17:56:16
Brian Clough was doing these kind of under the counter payments at Forest for 15 or so years this is one of the reasons that Forest were so successfull. Because Cloughie was a high profile manager and the FA were scared of him it was never investigated.

I bet Andy King does it too. Why else would Mooney have joined us :wink:


Title: Football's biggest punishments
Post by: Johno on Wednesday, June 1, 2005, 22:37:05
Its a bloody joke, chelsea should get some sort of deduction in points, or bigger fine!


Title: Football's biggest punishments
Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Wednesday, June 1, 2005, 22:40:02
I think Chelsea's punishment is fine. We should never have been demoted.


Title: Football's biggest punishments
Post by: yeo on Wednesday, June 1, 2005, 22:45:35
Perhaps the fine should be given to the poor clubs,though I suspect it will go towards Wembley  (how convenient)


Title: Football's biggest punishments
Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Wednesday, June 1, 2005, 22:47:33
It's only fair really that we should get some compensation for unfair demotion, £20 million would probably cover it.


Title: Football's biggest punishments
Post by: blinkpip on Wednesday, June 1, 2005, 22:53:05
I wonder how big of a Club will would be now if we were allowed to go up. Just a season after, the Premier League was formed wasn't it. Just went Clubs got rich.


Title: Football's biggest punishments
Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Wednesday, June 1, 2005, 22:57:04
I seem to remember being in that once though.


Title: Football's biggest punishments
Post by: larwood on Thursday, June 2, 2005, 07:52:25
Thats why i despise spurs.They did what we did but got away with it the bastards.You can't help wondering what would have happened to us if we had gone up that season,maybe we'd be in sunderlands position now.


Title: Football's biggest punishments
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, June 2, 2005, 10:07:10
I always thought we'd have stayed up with the team we had then, no problem.....but it was still old div 1 and when the Prem came into being, it tended to shake out the small over achievers like Wimbledon Oldham...Luton went just before....QPR  another, simply because if you've got good players, who show themselves at that level a more wealthy side can buy them....similarly if you have an achieving manager someone will poach them.

 So I think at some stage we may have found ourselves back at this level.


Title: Football's biggest punishments
Post by: McLovin on Thursday, June 2, 2005, 10:10:05
I wonder if there will ever be any kind of compensation we could claim in retrospect?

I doubt it strongly.


Title: Football's biggest punishments
Post by: Kinky Tom on Thursday, June 2, 2005, 10:15:32
Thik we've tried that before Davie - obviously to no avail.  :cry: