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Title: The holiday period
Post by: Tails on Monday, January 2, 2006, 18:57:53
Unbeaten, but are we better off? Nope, we are now worse off than we were before boxing day.

We NEED to start winning games ASAP. Drawing with everyone gets us nowhere. Chesterfield and Swansea are OK, but Hartlepool are a team we really could have done with a win against. Gillingham away is a vital game.


Title: The holiday period
Post by: yeo on Monday, January 2, 2006, 19:02:00
7 points of 15th

Easy Easy Easy!


Title: The holiday period
Post by: DiV on Monday, January 2, 2006, 19:18:54
Despite being unbeaten we are worse off 5 points from safety, we need to start winning games and soon.

At least we have a 12 day break now


Title: The holiday period
Post by: Spencer_White on Monday, January 2, 2006, 19:19:29
Blackpool was the one we really should have won.

Its all relative though Tails, weve come out of christmas on the up. We could (maybe should) have been buried by now.


Title: The holiday period
Post by: STFC Village on Monday, January 2, 2006, 19:22:47
Quote from: "DV85"
Despite being unbeaten we are worse off 5 points from safety, we need to start winning games and soon.
But we had a tough few games over Christmas, and looking at our predictions before this period, most had put down 2-4 points, so 5 isn't at all bad really. I agree that we have to start winning soon, but draws against the better teams in the division is no bad thing, as long as we beat teams around us....


Title: The holiday period
Post by: DiV on Monday, January 2, 2006, 19:26:28
Quote from: "STFC Village"
Quote from: "DV85"
Despite being unbeaten we are worse off 5 points from safety, we need to start winning games and soon.
But we had a tough few games over Christmas, and looking at our predictions before this period, most had put down 2-4 points, so 5 isn't at all bad really. I agree that we have to start winning soon, but draws against the better teams in the division is no bad thing, as long as we beat teams around us....


6 points  :wink:

Rather draws that defeats and we're on a nice run, but take the others are stilling moving away from us, team like Bristol City will win 3-0 one week and lose 3-0 the next. That still makes them better off than us if we draw both.

The fact is, one loss in the last 13 but all the teams are still pulling away from us isnt good.


Title: The holiday period
Post by: STFC Village on Monday, January 2, 2006, 19:29:05
Quote from: "DV85"
6 points  :wink:
Whoops, you get the idea though :grin:


Title: The holiday period
Post by: STFC Village on Monday, January 2, 2006, 19:34:36
http://thetownend.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8498

See, better than most/all of us realistically expected.


Title: The holiday period
Post by: DiV on Monday, January 2, 2006, 19:37:38
but...sadly...with other teams factored in it wasnt good enough, unless we push on and start winning games


Title: The holiday period
Post by: STFC Village on Monday, January 2, 2006, 19:38:38
Quote from: "DV85"
but...sadly...with other teams factored in it wasnt good enough, unless we push on and start winning games
I think we will......*crosses fingers*


Title: The holiday period
Post by: Stef Troll on Monday, January 2, 2006, 20:07:44
Yeh its a difficult one really.  The next few games are crucial.  We are on a good run, but as dv85 points out, the teams above have been getting more points then ourselfs, and as a result, we are 5 points behind safety.

Draws are good away from home, but at home we need to pick up maximum points

No doubt Iffy will get new loan players.  Lets just hope they all adapt to the team quickly.  Lets hope Fallon and Cureton start playing well together.  Our defending is getting better now,  we just need to start scoring more


Title: The holiday period
Post by: dogs on Monday, January 2, 2006, 20:13:50
This league is pretty pathetic though (quality wise). Bristol City after their mini run are now only 9 points off a play-off space after going bottom briefly.


Title: The holiday period
Post by: rudeboydreas on Monday, January 2, 2006, 20:19:27
That's the beauty of it being so close, Shitty will leave us behind, but because they are beating everyone, more teams will drop into trouble.
You need to consider that teams not far away from us (like 12-20) are losing even if Shitty are winning, so one of them will fall to the foot soon enough.
We just need to keep picking up points, at least we're not losing, it's good for morale - for both the players and the non-pessimists of us fans (which are a rarity sadly)
(Just noticed post no 69 :D )


Title: The holiday period
Post by: Batch on Monday, January 2, 2006, 20:31:38
The next few weeks are critical both on the loan front.

If somebody said we would be unbeaten against Colchester, Swansea, Hartlepool and Chesterfield I would have been delighted.  But is 6/12 points enough? Well, if we were  to maintain that form until the end of the season we would have 55 points. That may be enough. Big IF though.

I think we need to start creating more from open play, particularily at home. Fallon feeds off scraps. But we need to unlock cureton's potential. Hence why I think loan signings will make or break us.


Title: The holiday period
Post by: my-velocity on Monday, January 2, 2006, 20:44:32
We got 6 points in 4, not bad considering the opponents. City only got 2 more than us.


Title: The holiday period
Post by: santini on Monday, January 2, 2006, 21:32:05
Quote from: "Batch"

... we need to unlock cureton's potential. Hence why I think loan signings will make or break us.

Today's evidence confirms that Cureton is not going to be our saviour. We need fresh blood in strikers who can actually
run
think
anticipate
stay on side
hold the ball up
pass the ball
score goals.


Title: The holiday period
Post by: dogs on Monday, January 2, 2006, 22:12:37
Quote from: "rudeboydreas"
That's the beauty of it being so close, Shitty will leave us behind, but because they are beating everyone, more teams will drop into trouble.
You need to consider that teams not far away from us (like 12-20) are losing even if Shitty are winning, so one of them will fall to the foot soon enough.
We just need to keep picking up points, at least we're not losing, it's good for morale - for both the players and the non-pessimists of us fans (which are a rarity sadly)
(Just noticed post no 69 :D )


That is very true as we are only 7 points away from 15th, so a lot of other teams are being dragged into it. We must pick up wins against these teams though.


Title: The holiday period
Post by: Johno on Monday, January 2, 2006, 22:15:05
im happy with the christmas period, need to build on it though like you've all said!


Title: The holiday period
Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, January 2, 2006, 23:03:48
Quote from: "santini"
Quote from: "Batch"

... we need to unlock cureton's potential. Hence why I think loan signings will make or break us.

Today's evidence confirms that Cureton is not going to be our saviour. We need fresh blood in strikers who can actually
run
think
anticipate
stay on side
hold the ball up
pass the ball
score goals.


you're not asking for much then?

6 points over the christmas period will do me fine, although it is slightly irritating when you consider the fact we could have won against swansea and chesterfield which would make it 9 points out of 12. i think we'll turn a corner soon and start converting these draws into wins.


Title: The holiday period
Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Tuesday, January 3, 2006, 02:37:13
I think that we are slightly better off than we were before Christmas even though we are further from 20th because like rudeboydreas says there are a number of teams now just above the relegation zone who aren't too far away. If you look at the form table, it looks a bit upside down with Swansea at the bottom and Bristol City at the top. http://www.soccer-stats.com/divisions/recent_form.asp?divno=3&lastgames=5

You have teams like Scunthorpe who have gone from 1st to 17th and are only 6 points ahead of us now, hopefully one of those teams will go on a bad run.


Title: The holiday period
Post by: larwood on Tuesday, January 3, 2006, 08:55:06
I'm very pleased with our results over the X-mas period, after the awful Blackpool performance i only thought it could get worse :( .But the boys proved me wrong :) We do need to start winning of course,but hopefully we will now feel more confident against the teams around us after the good results we've had in the last four games.


Title: The holiday period
Post by: fatbury on Tuesday, January 3, 2006, 08:58:47
couldve been worse .. hopefully we can cash in on the home games v Walsall and Bournemouth  ... but Gills away will be bloody hard .. they are playing well and supporters are well up for it!


Title: The holiday period
Post by: larwood on Tuesday, January 3, 2006, 09:18:35
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 they are playing well and supporters are well up for it!

Sorry to sound a bit blase about their dislike for us,but i can't really understand or care about them.I feel a bit sorry for Gills fans,imagine not having a proper derby game and having to create one.The best thing we could do is ignore the silly sods and sing about how much we hate the Pox instead :) .