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Title: My Pie Shop
Post by: Boeta on Thursday, February 3, 2005, 11:41:06
Remember that slightly odd post about pies a couple of weeks ago? Well it inspired me to change my business coursework idea to a Pie Shop. So I thought you nice people would love to lend me a hand..... currently I'm doing a SWOT (strengths, weaknesses, opportunities, threats), any ideas? Any suggestions, however ridiculous will be greatly appreciated.


Title: My Pie Shop
Post by: Onion_Jimbo on Thursday, February 3, 2005, 11:47:26
strengths = pies

weakness = cakes

opportunities = pie variations

threats = brian howard


Title: My Pie Shop
Post by: Amir on Thursday, February 3, 2005, 11:48:39
People on diets are a threat.


Title: My Pie Shop
Post by: STFCBird on Thursday, February 3, 2005, 11:49:03
Quote from: "Onion_Jimbo"
strengths = pies

weakness = cakes

opportunities = pie variations

threats = brian howard


Maybe Brian Howard is Piemonte  :shock:


Title: My Pie Shop
Post by: Boeta on Thursday, February 3, 2005, 11:50:25
Isn't Brian Howard an opportunity? Surely he'd be an excellent source of money?


Title: My Pie Shop
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, February 3, 2005, 11:50:28
i thought brian howard would be a strength - good customer base and all
mind you the threat is he will explode, thus losing your entire customer base


Title: My Pie Shop
Post by: Onion_Jimbo on Thursday, February 3, 2005, 11:51:55
no because he doesnt care about purchasing the pies. All he'd want to do is eat your stock without paying. Kind of like a bear stealing your picnic basket


Title: My Pie Shop
Post by: Boeta on Thursday, February 3, 2005, 11:52:50
That's a bit rude isn't it


Title: My Pie Shop
Post by: Onion_Jimbo on Thursday, February 3, 2005, 11:53:49
well thats brian howard down to  a tea. he doesnt care about anyone as long as  he is full of pie.


Title: My Pie Shop
Post by: janaage on Thursday, February 3, 2005, 12:00:28
I have heard Brian Howard is infamous for his non payment of pies, especially Mr Kipling's Apple Pies.  That's what he has for tea according to a very reliable source.


Title: My Pie Shop
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, February 3, 2005, 12:01:38
personally i think your business idea is all pie in the sky.......i'll get my coat  :arrow:


Title: My Pie Shop
Post by: janaage on Thursday, February 3, 2005, 12:02:39
Maybe you could give a Swindon player a job there once he retires, maybe Sammy P-Igoe


Title: My Pie Shop
Post by: Amir on Thursday, February 3, 2005, 12:03:35
A slice of humble pie for you then, Simon :wink:


Title: My Pie Shop
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, February 3, 2005, 12:04:10
now now let pie gones be pie gones


Title: My Pie Shop
Post by: STFCBird on Thursday, February 3, 2005, 12:06:55
:Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick


Title: My Pie Shop
Post by: Boeta on Thursday, February 3, 2005, 12:09:36
I'm off out now, but I'm sure you'd all love to see how I'm getting on:

SWOT (http://www.cirencestercricketclub.co.uk/vtcb/SWOT.doc)


Title: My Pie Shop
Post by: Piemonte on Thursday, February 3, 2005, 12:33:35
STRENGTHS -
-Full of meaty goodness
-Popular and traditional
- will cater for wide range of tastes

WEAKNESSES -
-Healthy eating drive by govenrment
-Snobbish Cirencester types may not eat pie (Caviear anyone??!?)

OPPORTUNITIES -
-Possible diversification into sandwich / pasty / bakery markets
-could launch a "healthy" range of low fat pies to combat healthy eating drive

THREATS -
- pre packed sandwich market
- other people realising there is a gap in the market
- Andy King putting Brian Howard on a diet, he may attack your shop in a gravy fuelled moment of madness
- Piemonte finding out where your shop is and ram raiding it in the night after becoming sick of my diet


Title: My Pie Shop
Post by: STFCBird on Thursday, February 3, 2005, 12:53:36
I have a tractor Piemonte if you want to go pie shop ram raiding


Title: My Pie Shop
Post by: Piemonte on Thursday, February 3, 2005, 14:55:19
Yes, that would be very helpful thank you.

I could attach things to it in an A-Team style and fire pumpkins and melons at people.


Title: My Pie Shop
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, February 3, 2005, 14:57:08
i think they should do a degree in pie appreciation. pieface could be professor of pie  8)


Title: My Pie Shop
Post by: Piemonte on Thursday, February 3, 2005, 14:59:00
As a fellow pieman, you could be my assistant Simon.

Pie Undergraduate or something 8)


Title: My Pie Shop
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, February 3, 2005, 14:59:36
:P


Title: My Pie Shop
Post by: Boeta on Thursday, February 3, 2005, 15:05:51
Cheers pieface, you're a pro


Title: My Pie Shop
Post by: Piemonte on Thursday, February 3, 2005, 15:07:12
I have to do that kind of stuff at work (SWOT that is, not ram raiding pie shops)


Title: My Pie Shop
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, February 3, 2005, 15:08:41
Quote from: "Boeta"
Cheers pieface, you're a pro


a pro...fessor of pie  8)

mmm pie


Title: My Pie Shop
Post by: STFCBird on Thursday, February 3, 2005, 15:09:21
Quote from: "Piemonte2"
Yes, that would be very helpful thank you.

I could attach things to it in an A-Team style and fire pumpkins and melons at people.


pumpkin pie ummmmmm


Title: My Pie Shop
Post by: Piemonte on Thursday, February 3, 2005, 15:14:31
errrrgrhhhh

Pie should, in my professors opinion, contain either:

A) Meat of some description
B) Apple


Title: My Pie Shop
Post by: STFCBird on Thursday, February 3, 2005, 15:15:52
Quote from: "Piemonte2"
errrrgrhhhh

Pie should, in my professors opinion, contain either:

A) Meat of some description
B) Apple


or apple and blackberry


Title: My Pie Shop
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, February 3, 2005, 15:16:04
pumpkin  :nono

chicken and bacon  :eat


Title: My Pie Shop
Post by: Piemonte on Thursday, February 3, 2005, 15:20:59
variants of apple based filling are acceptable :D


Title: My Pie Shop
Post by: janaage on Thursday, February 3, 2005, 15:24:25
Pie's suck, too much pastry for my liking.  Having said that the best pies in the world can be bought at any 7/11 in Australia.  The steak pies are the best, just cos the pastry's tasting and soft.


Title: My Pie Shop
Post by: STFCBird on Thursday, February 3, 2005, 15:25:04
oooh yeah chicken and bacon!!  8)


Title: My Pie Shop
Post by: Piemonte on Thursday, February 3, 2005, 15:27:04
Chicken Balti aint half bad, although chicken and bacon is probably my personal favorite followed by beef and onion


Title: My Pie Shop
Post by: oxford_fan on Thursday, February 3, 2005, 15:41:40
strengths

- pies are not a normal fast food good, you'd be in a niche market with a USP

weaknesses

- other, larger fast food outlets with larger capital, more stores, generally more resources both financially and operationally

opportunities

- the health-pie market. this is a new niche founded by your pie shop, the fat free pie. you could have fat free options on all of your pie flavours on the menu
- rival boots' meal deal with your own - pie, drink and crisps/choc for £4 or something

threats

- mccy d's, etc
- the cornish pasy co. similar sort of good and their stores are popping up everywhere nowadays

must dash now, may think of more later


Title: My Pie Shop
Post by: Boeta on Thursday, February 3, 2005, 16:36:49
Cheers OF.


Title: My Pie Shop
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, February 3, 2005, 18:49:32
Threat to your pie sales may come in the form of EU intervention as to the intellectual ownership of the pie.....and when is a pie, a tart, a torte, a flan, or a  quiche?

 Such a debate is currently raging as to whether the M and S pork pie made in Trowbridge, but bearing the name Melton mowbray pork pie is strictly legal.


Title: My Pie Shop
Post by: Piemonte on Friday, February 4, 2005, 09:29:44
The same thing happend with Parma ham that wasnt manufactured in Parma didnt it?


Title: My Pie Shop
Post by: faringdingdong on Friday, February 4, 2005, 09:54:26
Retail is a real cut-throat world though, competition is more fierce there than in almost every other form of business. There are lots of competitors in the world of catering to contend with and use of industrial spies is not uncommon.





 :wink:
(i think i got away with it!)


Title: My Pie Shop
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, February 4, 2005, 10:54:51
Quote from: "Piemonte2"
The same thing happend with Parma ham that wasnt manufactured in Parma didnt it?


 In 1999, the Melton Mowbray Pork Pie Association, a group of seven local manufacturers, applied to the EU to have their products categorised as protected geographical indication (PGI). This would restrict the use of the name in much the same way that 570 other European foodstuffs, including Bayonne ham, mortadella, Cornish clotted cream, Scotch beef and Stilton cheese, have been granted protected status.

  Think Parma ham and probably parmesan cheese is in the 570.