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See he's dislocated his shoulder.

Out for a while

Yup, Is it like a shop. Now they broken him do they have to buy him?

For one minute I thought you were going to tell us he had been spotted falling out of Spearmint Rhino or something.

Oddly enough the word 'bollixed' means to throw in to confusion

I always thought is was a more polite version of Bollock-sed

The Irish would say Banjaxed

Fucked is another way of saying it.........Anglo Saxon.

Always remember Barry Corr and his 'troublesome' shoulder!

and charlie austin

So I wonder if he returns here for treatment as he is our player or if it is being dealt with by Brum, depends I supose if there is ligament damage as well

Does anyone think it's a bit suspicious that Caddis fell out with di Canio and now all of a sudden he's picked up his first major injury?

No, what you mean?

PDC called in a favour from the family/i]?

He's got a fierce temper and has fallen out with half the squad.  With his connections and fascist beliefs, it's certainly possible....

:popcorn:

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Meh.

He won't be back here anyway whilst PDC is in charge.

Worth a try....  :fishing:

Out for at least 3 months

Brum seem to have collapsed without him. 5-0 down at home to Barnsley with 20 minutes to go.

Our 'old' friend Craig Daaaaaaaaaaaavies with 4!

Started for Birmingham tonight.

See that he has done his hammy this time - out for 3 weeks - Birmingham medical facilities are really good aren't they, just returns from injury and get's another !!??

I think we should recall him in January and sell him, has to be worth £250,000 plus add ons surely and Brum are not going to have the money to buy him with Yeong still owning the club

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20799454

Shame

What tans said!

it is a shame if it decreases his sale value.

Some top quality reporting from the Birmingham Mail here:

"Caddis is on the season-long loan after being stripped of the captaincy at the County Ground by Roberto Di Canio."

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/sign-him-up-birmingham-city-373351 (http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/sign-him-up-birmingham-city-373351)

Paolo, it's Paolo.

Of course it's Paolo ???

Not even sure he'd get in the side the way Thompson's playing.

As well as Thompson is doing, let's keep some perspective! Caddis is a far better player.

I agree that Caddis is better but Thompson is growing into the role and growing in confidence. At present i'm not sure we need another RB. I guess we will if he dips in form or gets injured though.

Makes me laugh after the way he went public the other week saying how good things are at City ! He acted like a child whilst at Swindon and cried when he got put in his place. He can stay at Birmingham for all i care as they are a sinking ship.

To be fair I don't think most of us know exactly what went on behind the scenes, be it Caddis orchestrating a move, Paolo being a dick, or something inbetween.

As long as we get fair market value for him its best for all he goes in the January window.

When he does go, hope we can get a good fee for him and these injuries don't hamper it too much!

It was Paolo's arrogance and intransigence which led to Caddis leaving.Our loss and Birminghams gain but all over now and we move on.

As far as I'm concerned our defence is a LOT better with Thompson in it than it ever was with Caddis.

Caddis is the better attacker, but Thompson's got all the ingredients to become excellent in that aspect of the game as well, as he's shown in flashes (think he set one up on friday).

But the way our defence is at the moment, I wouldn't change from the one we had on friday even if Caddis was still here.

I would prefer to have Jay Mc over McCormack.

How did he do that then

I thought it was Caddis acting as if he is the first footballer to ever have a kid and being a fucking crybaby about training..

The cunt

Or picks up a ban. He will probably get sent off at some point if he carries on tackling as he does.

Thompson or Caddis?

Thompson definitely fits into this criteria. His munchers are ace, but it just takes one to be slightly mis-timed and he'll be a goner

Thompson, obviously. He was lucky not to go a little while back.

Think Brum coaching staff were at the game Friday night, got me thinking... eyeing up Ritchie maybe to team up with Caddis?
Sure January will bring the usual Ritchie speculation so thought I may as well kick it off!

Birmingham city couldn't afford Ritchie plus why would he want to go to a stuggling club like City as they will most probably end up in league one.

They can't afford 1 player let alone 2

Thompson may be a sending off waiting to happen but thank fuck for a defender that gets right in the face of the winger and lets him know he's going to get a kicking. The last full back i can remember like that was Sol Davis. Thompson is only going to get better and better. Caddis was missed befire thompson claimed the spot but he hasn't been missed since. Thompson is good defensively and is getting forward quite well to support Ritchie. he won the ball for the first or second Saturday and made the third. I am more than happy with Thompson and Caddis can go fuck himself - its just a case of how much we can get for him.  

Fair enough, got no idea what their finances are like, perhaps they were just there to watch a decent game of football for once   :)

No chance, there is lot worse beneath them in the table. They will languish in mid table once they are over their injury crisis.

Oh dear we have found our closet blue nose ;)

I want caddis and di canio to sort it out and get back playing here.

I think this is pretty much how everone else feels about the situation as well.

our defence is better off without the selfish twat

Nope, I have a feeling if he came back it would cause rifts in the dressing room.

Whether you like him or not it has to be the managers way or fuck off or we end up with the situation under Wilson.

Caddis has made his choice

Yes very good point !

Dressing room rift? No. Player vs manager rift? Maybe. Its an issue between 2men.

Are they not under a transfer enbargo due to the carson yeong situation where he owns the club but is under arrest and been charged in a different country ? there was rumours of a takeover by Paladini the former QPR chair

Oh dear

I wonder if there is an option that if Birmingham do not have the money to make Caddis' move permanent if we can recall him and then sell him to another championship club, if there was an offer made - I would guess that PDC would like the money from this deal to get the other additions he wants, must be worth somewhere in the region of £300,000+

Now that Birmingham young right back broke his leg yesterday, they need Caddis even more.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20921871

Wasn't he only playing because we wouldn't allow Caddis to become cup tied in case his move to Brum falls through?

In which case we should tell them to buy him, or we send him out on loan elsewhere

Don't worry he'll be back playing soon due to the fantastic medical facilities that Brum have - the same facilities that have kept Caddis out for most of the season.

As PDC said in his post match yesterday, Birmingham want to but him but are unlikely to be able to pay for him in this transfer window.

When does Carson Young's trial start?

Not quite sure as to the negative feeling towards caddis? PDC questioned his girlfriends mothering skills in front of the whole squad on the first day of per-season, caddis didn't take kindly to this and they fell out. He was subsequently shipped out on loan. In terms of the difference in medical facilities that's a dig at PDC not the club and is probably true, ask any of the squad if they rate Paul Godfrey... Caddis is a model pro, he doesn't drink, doesn't go out and enjoyed playing for the club. He captained our side to a promotion at the same time as being a very good right back... It's a shame that some fans put down players that gave us good service.

Hi Paul.

I did we'll to join the forum a couple of years before I signed!  :)

How do you know that is a full account of what happened?

From speaking to Paul and other members of the squad.. a lot of former players deserve getting knocked as they were a waste of space. In this particular case I think the player deserves a bit more credit. Yes he fell out with PDC and everyone's moved on, it happens but the negativity in his direction isn't warranted.

But it is. He upped sticks... And having spoken to him it's clear he's also rather fond of himself, which might explain the clash, in part.

He was forced out on loan, which is a little different to upping sticks. Up him self is the last way I'd describe his character, from my experience of him he's as down to earth as they come, along with the likes of Benno, Darren Ward and Nathan Thompson. He enjoyed being captain and wanted to get the club to the championship. I've said my piece now, I just wanted to provide a different opinion.

Caddis seems to be happy at Brum, most Town fans are happy with nathan so as long as Brum stump up then its a win, win situation.

Fair shout, Thompson has been excellent for us this season considering it's  his first real run in the team, it's great to see him doing so well,

Why on earth would Caddis girlfriends parenting skills come up during the first day of pre-season training anyway?

Because Caddis came back knackered from being up with his newborn baby.

Any more names you'd like to drop?

Fair enough comments and is pretty much the story I heard a few months ago.

I think the fanbase is split on Caddis, some would welcome him back with open arms, others have moved on and disregard him completely.  Until he finally does move permanently there will continue to be rumour and negativity surrounding his name.

I'd like to drop Gary Neville as I can't stand him.

So why did he tell the press there was no problem with the baby?

PDC or Caddis?

Is that a serious question?

Caddis (your mate) said that

Any reason for the animosity? Or are you always this charming? Because there wasn't... What parents don't get tired when they have a new kid? PDC didn't like the fact that Caddis came back a bit knackered.

You didn't answer the question.

If he came back to training feeling knackered because of the baby, why did caddis tell the press the baby was not a problem?

Are you begin serious? Because to his mind it wasn't... PDC felt it was, it's that simple.

but you just said he said he (your mate caddis) told you he came back knackered because of the baby.

Caddis denied that. He said there was no problem.

Which one is it?

So Caddis came back knackered, and that's not a problem?! Clearly it is a problem when your job requires high levels of energy output and you're tired. Seems quite simple really.

It's a stupid argument to be honest, he won't be coming back and sees his future elsewhere. Early on (pre-Thompson) it was a major loss, but it's done now and I'd have PDC over Caddis 999,999 out of 1,000,000.

Lets debate Billy Paynter's contract.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19293570

:nod:

That article answers your question and my point... As others have said it matters little now anyway, I've added my bit.

Riiiigggghhhhttttt

Didnt Ferry & McCormack have new babies in the summer ? - didn't see them being hung out to dry and complaining, maybe they wasn't tired, maybe is was only Caddis doing the night feeds, maybe their partners were more understanding

Didn't Caddis ask to leave when we got relegated?

As a right back, Caddis is good, no doubt about it. None of us (apart from his mate on here) knows what he earns but if its any less than a few grand a week I would be shocked. He has a right to play an active role in the upbringing of his newborn child, like anyone, but he has chosen a profession that requires him to do things that might not be considered the norm for most people, such as training on Christmas Day, overnight trips etc. Perhaps I am a bit old fashioned for someone yet to hit 40, but if Caddis and his partner wish to maintain the lifestyle they are likely to have become accustomed too then he and his partner need to work it out between them so it does not have an effect on the breadwinners work. I expect some of us on here have a few brothers and sisters but mum and dad did whatever they could to make it work. I remember my old girl used to take me in a pushchair to the potato fields near our house and she would work 8 hours picking the things, we all have to make adjustments, and the Caddis family are no different to anyone else in that sense.

I wish no ill upon Caddis, far from, he was a good captain, and he lead us to promotion last season. But he has made digs at STFC since he has been out on loan and Paul Caddis will not win us League 1 on his own, nor will Paolo but recent events convince me PdC loves our club, and I for one wouldn't swap him for 100 of Caddis. If we have a squad with the same passion, desire and commitment that the gaffer has, we will walk this league.

Well put Shaw Rosso, i wholeheartedly agree with you!

Spot on Shaw Rosso.

I don't think it really matters now what went on. After the Leon Clarke incident we've known full well that Di Canio will win in these situations and the players will leave. He made that stance and has to stick with it.

Caddis is a good player and currently better than our current righ back. However whilst our team might have been a bit better technically if he was still here - would the rest of our squad still be as in line and disciplined if Di Canio had backed down?

Great post Shaw Rosso! Just to add, I think we've also gained a very good right back in Nathan Thompson, and it's great seeing a home-grown player play consistently in the starting line up! If he can develop as he is doing then he's going to be one hell of player in a few years!

The article on the bbc website about PDC putting in his own money says at the end that brum cannot afford Caddis but he will stay there until the end of the season

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20928212

That's what PDC said on Saturday.

Great post Shaw Rosso, got it bang on there. ;)

new very old boy here - first ever post
i remember rogers/hunt/summerbee/ et al so well
WHY has nobody in the fan community organised a collection (bucket job if you like) for getting PDC what he wants
I'll put a tenner in - maybe 20 - get your arses into to action before it is too late
the board are not yet going to shift
not sure this will go down to well for a first post
perhaps I should have remained a virgin

WHAT DO WE WANT? - CHAMPIONSHIP!!!!!!!!

SHIT

i meant to say too not to
so there

It looks like some guy on twitter has got the same idea and is using the red army fund to collect the donations not sure if it has been mentioned anywhere else

Cunt, in the nicest way possible.

Couldn't agree with you more by the way and I expect there is a few on here who love a bucket job

Agree with all that DV.

Good intentions but it would leave us open to, "they're so desperate for cash at Swindon that the fans are having a collection to pay the players' wages". Just saying like......

Doesn't look like he will be going to Birmingham permanently any time soon.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21126539

Wonder who we can buy from them.

..... oh.

Surely we have the right to cancel his loan and recall him then sell him to another team with money?

We probably do but we have Adam Rooney as part of the deal and Paolo wants to keep him.

Paolo hardly ever plays him. Just like the situation with bostock.

HEADLINE: "Birmingham: the cheats who really didn't prosper!"

Sub-Headline: "They loaned Caddis by not paying £50m bills"

Makes our situation look positively rosy! haha

I wonder if they'll be selling those 'World Class' medical facilities or whatever the quote Caddis used was! ;)  :D

I'm starting to wonder if the only reason he wants to keep him is because if he doesn't Birmingham might send Caddis back to us?

I can't even remember the last game he actually got on to the pitch it was so long ago.

Two months ago - Brentford at home.

Swap Caddis for Hollands (Charlton).

Depends how bad Hollands' ankle injury is

Didn't realise it was his ankle, I thought I heard Paolo say it was a possible broken big toe? Either way it's annoying as Hollands has been really good in the last few games.

From the Adver.

Fair enough, I though I'd heard ankle. Point still stands though.

I assume we dont otherwise I would imagine we would have got him back and sold him on, I expect it was a season long loan with Rooney coming the other way and you would imagine Brum must be paying Rooney's wages as part of the deal otherwise he would have been sent back or chose himself to return to go elsewhere

Unlike Hollands.

Baddum Tish!

Right time to get this bloke back as we need him !

No chance, not until PDC leaves.

In fact it is a bit of a bugger Butland turned down the chance to talk to Chelsea. Birmingham seem just as screwed as we are financially, so that ended any perm sale of Caddis.

A lesson learned. If you don't want a player, sell him.

When is his contract up, be great to see him back.

Can't see it myself, maybe if we go up. If not we'll need the cash, and Thompson has been great - not yet as good as Caddis but even so

end of the season, i believe?

He has another season left after this one.

ah yes, that extension that he was unhappy about.

Sell him... I'm happy with Thompson (and it'd fit better with trying to be financially self-sufficient)

I say sell him. It's not jst him falling out with PDC, he doesn't want to play for us any more.

Keep him, he's a good player and he and thompson fighting for rb position is a good start to next years squad.

Didn't he say he couldn't see himself playing under PDC, rather than playing for STFC again? Worth keeping hold of IF he wants to be here.

He never wanted his contract extended and thinks he is better than us. No doubt he'd be happy to continue playing for us if we got promoted. Fuck him.

Problem is that he's on loan to a club for the rest of the season to a club that can't afford to buy him. Is he putting himself in the shop window? I'm not so sure.

I reckon he'll be back with us this time next year

Think he might have been happy to play for us again if Di Canio had gone shortly after the original spat, but he's clearly moved on now and so should we. It's all about getting the best price for him at the end of the season now.

I'd rather keep Thompson at rb. If he keeps on like he is he will be worth a good few quid. I wouldn't want to stop his development.

Thompson RB and  Caddis RM?

Better to cash him in, if the plan is to be self-sustaining. At least then we have some funds without breaking up the current side.

It will be interesting to see what the "Senior Pros" in charge put out as a team tomorrow regarding full backs. Cannot see too many changes as we are thin on the ground, but who knows?

Wrong and wrong again. It was, and is Di Canio who thinks he is better than us . Caddis just had the bollocks to stand up

to his tyrannical style of leadership. (in my opinion).

in your opinion eh ?

then why the fuck lead with the "wrong and wrong again" ?

Wrong and wrong again , in my opinion. Not that difficult is it?

ever thought about becoming a Journo for the Mail ?

My understanding of the original Caddis/Di Canio situation was that the whole squad were moaning about Di Canio behind his back, Caddis actually stood up to Di Canio and said something, then the rest of the squad backed down and let Caddis deal with the fallout.

Caddis didn't want to play for us any more. It really is that simple. All this standing up to Di Canio bollocks is just pure fantasy.

A fairly big sized club came along and he wanted out - simple as that.

He has no future at the club.

This isn't true.


We approached other clubs to take him.

I've done the Caddis thing before so I'm not going to again, genuinely my last input. They fell out (PDC & Caddis) and he got moved on, it's that simple. He didn't engineer a move, or not want to sign the contract extension or any other rumour, he just fell out with the manager.

He's moved on, Paolo's moved on... We move on.

How do we move on...... If he's contacted till next season he's our player, would be people be happy if we sold him for 100k? So why can't he come back and be an integral member of the squad again?

Caddis will be back for the play offs if we don't finish in the top two. A deal is a deal, so it's very unlikely he will be back anytime soon.

Caddis no longer wanted to play for PDC. Would be such a plus for us to have him back - he's the strongest player in our squad.

Pretty sure his whinging to the press about town extending his contract without recourse to him pre-dated his bust-up with PDC

PAUL CADDIS NEVER WHINGED TO THE PRESS ABOUT HIS CONTRACT EXTENSION. It frustrates me no end to see people constantly re-writing history to justify his exit to themselves

His quotes at the time of signing

""It's something I thought would happen - I'm happy here and the club are happy to have me," Caddis told BBC Wiltshire.

"The manager likes me and people behind the scenes have complimented me on the way I've put myself about."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18138811

I can't recall him saying anything contrary since, though happy to be proved wrong.

Caddis was great for us last season, I'd love to see him play for Swindon again.

Caddis would improve our squad there is no question to that. I think we may see him in a Swindon shirt again considering Brum have no money at all and PDC has left paving way for his return

Calm down dear.  Has someone hidden your medication?  I was not my intention to "re-write history" nor would I have any interest in doing so.

I support all players while they are here and I am indifferent to all players once they leave (with the exception of Cox, for whom I still have a soft spot).

It is possible that in the murky areas at the back of my mind I had mis-remembered an apparent lack of excitement at the news ("it's something I thought would happen") as being something a bit more negative than that.

That might be the most begrudging concession of defeat in an argument I've ever read on here.

Thank you.  I'm quite happy to admit I'm wrong on a fact, but in this case I what actually happened is I was accused of "re-writing history" with intent, which is something else entirely.

You don't want to take things so personally. I'm sure that comment wasn't aimed specifically at you. There were about 3 pages of bullshit before that from people that had accepted the Dicanio groupthink that implies that everybody that disagrees with Il Duce is a traitor to the cause just looking for a chance to betray us, and we should be happy when Paolo takes action to eliminate them. (On a side note I find it unbelievable that people still maintain that PDC didn't allow his politicial convictions to intefere with his running of the club when it's pretty clear that the entire ethos of his management style was modelled on authoritarian politics).

There was no talk of Caddis wanting out and not wanting to extend his contract prior to his falling out with PDC. Birmingham didn't approach us wanting Caddis, we approached them to try to get him off our hands when it was clear PDC wanted him out.

Painting it in retrospect as Caddis engineering a move out really is rewriting history, or accepting a rewritten history unquestionningly. Fair enough if you're only guilty of the latter.

Fuck off you utter, utter cunt.

Do you do anything with your life apart from post slightly incoherent abuse at me pretty much every time I post?

Fuck me grow up boy.

When Caddis was interviewed about his contract extension he sounded as enthusiastic as Paul Hart.

Not that, that means he wasn't or wanted out but he definitely didnt come across as thrilled at the time.

For years we wanted a manager who was tough on players, particularly after Wilson. We get one and then he's too tough and it's all linked to politics.

Lets not completely over look the fact he has the best win % ratio...

This again, really?

I was looking for this interview earlier but I can't find it. Caddis was definitely not thrilled to be kept on another year.

He didnt sound thrilled but then scots never do, do they?

Well apart from Simon Ferry

Caddis never sound thrilled in any of his interviews ever.

Get off your high horse too Peter. People have been saying similar to you for months. It wasn't just you.

I think you need to be careful about using win percentage stats as the baseline for judging how good a manager is.

There are a lot of circumstances to take into account that can completely fuck up a manager's stats.

PDC, like Wise before him, had the advantages of:
- a side just relegated into a division the club would be a big fish in
- a complete pre-season
- the opportunity to build his own side

Not everyone got that. Ossie and Hoddle managed all their games a league or two higher up the table and is much more strained financial circumstances.

If PDC gets a job with Reading or Leeds we might get a better idea of how he compares

Though PDC is probably licking his lips thinking hes on to a winner if he goes to reading.  Even if they go down he then has a warchest of parachute payments to spend getting back up and a pre season drilling his team to his mindset.  And drilling the club into his way of thinking.

When did the phrase 'warchest' become so embedded in the discourse of football finances discussions? I can't turn for seeing a warchest somewhere being bandied about on this forum. Every time I hear it I can't help picture an actual old oak chest with a manager in furs lifting the lid for inspection.

Football is not just a game.  It is a war.  My players must be warrior dogs not chihuhuas.

Someone probably said some shit like that and warchest was derived from the imagery.  Or I could be talking shit.

Warchest is a term I associate with political parties and election funding.

And Xena - Warrior Princess...

Better than using political beliefs though.

Being a big fish, having a pre season and being able to build your own team guarantee you nothing.

Can't see where I claimed they did. I'm just saying it's a better way to start your management career at Swindon than coming in part way through a season with the team in the relegation zone, the last manager having just been given the push, your top striker just having been sold and no time to find a replacement.

As for the politics thing, I'm not making any kind of big P political point about it. But I'm not suprised that someone who has built his life around certain principles, brings those into the way he runs the club. Authoritarian is a management style (it's in the management theory books and everything). People who like authoritarianism in their politics aren't likely to be touchy, feel facilitative types in their working lives are they really. Why is it some sort of crime to point out this bleeding obvious fact?
I mean look at it:
Charismatic leader - check
Demanding absolute loyalty - check
Demanding unquestionning obedience - check
Eliminating any dissent - check

I'm not even saying that it was entirely a bad thing in the context of the club as it was; there have been plenty of managers that work along similar lines and been really successful for spells. But you can't ignore that the style has consequences because we lose players that other managers might have been able to work with in a more constructive way. Harry Redknapp managed to get the best out of Paolo as a player. Paolo as a manager would probably have had his player self out the door in the first month.

I'm also not sure the approach works in the long term, and suspect it might be more difficult as you progress through the leagues and the quality and paygrade of the players increases.

Sorry I respect your views but that is total rubbish, his manner of management has nothing to do with political ideology and everything to do with being a super confident arrogant man who is entirely convinced that he is right and everyone else is wrong!

In that way he is similar to a certain Scottish manager who would never back down and push out any players who disagreed, and he is a well known socialist.

I don't disagree with many of the things you say on here, although like many polorised views on here its all black and white, but don't dilute your views by trying to attach a political angle to everything to repeatedly (and getting to the stage of boreishly) over labouring the point.

The constant political angle on here is getting very boring now. Surely there are forums designed for this type of discussion. Your're support for a football club shouldn't hinge on the political beliefs of an individual whose sole purpose for hire is to get good results ON THE PITCH.

I'm obviously not explaining myself well, because I don't think we're saying very different things. For the record I AM NOT attempting to say that PDC was attempting to found a new 1000 year empire from a base in SN1. I don't think he held a session with his coaching team to plan his first league campaign with a big header across the white board reading "what would benito do?" All I'm saying is pretty much what you just posted. That his politics, his style of management, the way he conducts himself are all a part of the same package. They stem from his personality. It's who he is.

I started to make the Ferguson comparison myself in the post. He still has a big streak of authoritarian management style in how he does his business, but he's got the ability to go other ways to get things done. Which is why that Rooney lad still wears red and plays in Salford, rather than in blue in Manchester.

And the left wing thing is a bit of a red herring to be honest, that Stalin was a bit of an authoritarian after all.

Town have turned down offers for caddis from brum, bbc wilts.

Someone on thisis reported that the BBC said Brum were offering two instalments of £125k but we want £275k upfront. Can anyone confirm? If so, are we still in fire-sale mode?

Our transfer policy over the years has been generally baffling (with a few exceptions).

It's so nice of Swindon to help ailing sides like Birmingham by giving them one of our best players who has proven himself at Championship level at a cut-price.

 ::)

Well, it is thisis so I would take it with a tiny pinch of salt

He is worth 500k. If you apply the Stfc metric, that makes it about 125k.

Unbelievable, here is a player proving himself at championship level (also recently called into the full Scotland squad) and we will let him go for under £300,000!!!  Birmingham will have plenty of competition at that price!!  Huddersfield are known to have enquired about him, got to be £750,000 of anybody's money!!

Would it not be an idea to wait until he is sold (if he is sold) before complaining what he is sold for?

Just a though, like.

The Black Keys, seeing as though they're town fans and everything.

Failing that, I'd like Toots & the Maytals supported by The Specials please.

Will Cadds be acting as cheerleader?

:)

Probably a good idea, but that cunt Chris Wise is reporting that we are holding out for £275,000 to be paid in one lump . . . that is too cheap!!

That is what was said by chris wise, bbc wilts.

I assume then that Caddis is a member of said Black Keys?

Should be commanding more than £275,000 now. It's not like we've got the Di Canio issue to undercut what we hold out for anymore.

I assume the upfront thing is out of fear about Birmingham's financial situation.

Hopefully they'll put the message out around the Champ and alert some other clubs to his availability.

Correct sir! Either that or I posted it in the wrong thread...........you decide!

Ritchie for 400k, caddis for 275, Austin for 6 instead of 7 figures...

What is Swindon Town's problem with selling players for close to their actual market value?

But this is being handled by Jed & Co now rather than Watkins, and it depends if we need the money over the summer if not then selling for a cut price seems rather strange thing to do but we do have a history of selling low

:clap: :clap: :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

While we end up paying £200,000 plus appearance money for an unproven injury prone league 2 defender we don't even need.

Maybe its £275k plus Rooney?

TAH? I think that's a bit unfair, he's been unlucky this season. And we didn't choose to pay 200k+, that was the FL/FA's doing...

Caddis only has a year left on his contract, so it's hardly surprising it's such a small sum.

With Nathan Thompson now out for the rest of the season, surely we need to hold onto him at least until the playoffs are over. Should be put straight back into the mix.

We'll need the money over the summer as everyone is paying for season tickets in installments

£275K without, £375k with :)

T'was only a cheap joke, I like Rooney and he's done alright over the last few weeks.