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Now maybe I am setting myself up to be shot down, or maybe I am being rational because I am an old bastard but ..............

a lot of boo boys were out for Ince in the Town End tonight but I would like to note the following points ;

I remember the same reaction to Evo after the Reading game and now the consensus is that he has been our signing of the season (and quite rightly so)

OK Ince is not match fit, but how do we get him to that state ?, put him in the reserves who only have a game at best, every other week, and hope that he is match fit by January ?......... no sometimes you just got to take a flyer and go with it.

I am sure that once he finds his feet we will have the best centre mid partnership not only in our league but the league above too.

Just my views......

Paul Ince was clearly not match fit, he was very good when he had the ball at his feet and had time to pick out a pass.

First 20 minutes he was doing his best Michael Pook impression, he got better as time went on though.

He is clearly a pre-season behind, so I hope he's putting in the extra training.

If he had signed before the season started we wouldnt have this problem

tbh i heard only cheers for him.

hw got stronger as the game went on

i was suprised wise kept him on all game.

pook is slowing going away

slowly, but i dont think anyone is out of contention in our squad, sorry.

I think if Smith had not gone off then Ince would have come off for Shakes with about 20 to go

I would have been reluctant to pick Evo and Ince in midfield today but Wisey got it right.

They were pretty solid and although Ince had no pace or fitness he flung himself in the way of everything and passed the ball very well. When fully fit that pairing will boss this league

yeah he got it right tonight but ince/evans partnership worries me
neither like to break into the box and if one of our fowards is out wide
i feel there will be a lack of support for them.

but tonight it worked even if it wasnt pretty.

Don't worry these are probably the same idiots that were booing when Ifil hoofed it to nobody.

Now i get annoyed with his inablitiy to pass but he had another ace game, the morons need to STFU.  :evil:

Shrewsbury Town Football United? what's that got to do with anything?

Boos? For Ince? Are you sure. I was stood there and didn't hear any.

Ince needs training/games. He'll come good.

STFU = Show Their Fucking Udders

I agree my friend..............and they are probably the first to leave when we drop a couple of points !

Once again tonight had a bunch of fair weather friends as my new best mates !

From what I heard it sounds like Ince isn't much at the moment and may be disrupting the teamwork that's been so good so far.
To quote the cliche "Why change a winning team" (I know we won tonight, but 6 in a row without Ince).

Is he the first name on the team sheet, or should he play dependent on the opposition, or maybe a subs role?

Now he's played a full game, lets discuss.....

Once he is fit it is Evo and him all the way in CM

no one will be able to handle them !

Upon hearing the final whistle Ince and Peacock launched themselves into eachothers arms - don't think there's a problem.

It just shows how much it all means to them if they're occasionally having a go about a misplaced pass - they all want to get it right and not settling for almost and nearly like we have done for too many seasons.

good to hear - missed that. We can assess him properly when he's fit

i think he was ace. i think the fact he's able to tackle properly in the centre of midfield and can pull a pass out when the  ball looks to be travelling away from him shows is ace.

i think he showed his class today and look forward to better performances

I thought he was class personally ..

Evans and Ince are a secure centre mid but restricts our attacking options. I couldn't believe how deep the midfield looked throughout the whole game, that just led to the inevitable long ball. We need to sign a decent right winger to allow Weston back into the middle to play in front of either Ince or Evans and link play up to Roberts and Peacock.

I though Ince was a little off the pace, but got better as the game went on.

He needs games though, so theres little option but to play him and wait for the improvement.

He was average by his standards, but that's still a lot better than Paul Mitchell. Just wait until he's firing on all cylinders! 8)

Thought Ince had quite a strange game. technically I thought he was excellent. His tackling was great and his passing was good too. However he did blatantly lack fitness. As for the lack of getting forward from a evans and ince CM partnership, I thought Ince got forward well last night and it was his run into the box that got us the first penalty.

What Piemonte said.

He was clearly off the pace, but it's like one of my mates said last night, great that he got through the full 90, as there's no quicker or better way of getting back to 100% fitness.

Ince did OK i thought. not amazing but he did his job well

I think Ince was average but made some good tackles. However I will not be one of these people that judges a player from one or two games because thats just craziness.He is THEE paul Ince, I know for a fact we havent seen what he is properly capable of yet and I for one,can not wait  :D  :D  :D

I bet Incey's feeling it this morning :mrgreen: . Even though he's clearly not match fit his class still shines through, especially in the 'rochdale' league.

Has Reg been a bit quiet lately?

I've adopted it for general conversation - I feel it very apt to best describe the levle of football we're at.

I agree with both these comments, its not ideal Ince and Evans but it’s the best for the moment.

As your Ince’s performance you have to take into account he’s never played with these players and he’s not 100% fit. This lead to a ineffective first 20 minutes but I thought he was ace after that. You have to realise he’s getting on now and wont be tracking back 40 yards to make a tackle every 5 minutes even when he does get fit, however what he brings to our side is invaluable.

Very appropriate too. I was genuinely enquiring about Reg' s frequency - not in the bodily function sense though!

i was adamant that starting ince against the dons would have been a disaster.

i couldn't have been more wrong. in a physical and tough game, the midfield of evans and ince was excellent, short and simple passing, tough tackling and winning balls all over the park.

ince lacked match fitness, no question about that and it certainly showed but it didn't hinder him a great deal, if that's how he can play when nowhere near fitness, just imagine how effective he will be for us when he's fully fit.

will he start saturday, i wonder?

I suspect not given Peterbro's recent terrible form and some important games coming up.

Having said that we havnt got a game next midweek have we?

maybe he will then.

Hope that sheds some light on the situation :D

he'll still be sore saturday,he'll be on the bench

wow  8)

dont forget  the 15 inch dildo

15 inch :shock:  I struggle with 12 myself.

were theres a will ............

He is shit.

Doesn't look like he can be arsed as yet, hopefully its just a fitness thing. Janaage had it spot on at HT- we shouldn't be wasting him in games trying to get him fit, thats for the reserves and training. No passengers, famous or otherwise.

he shouldnt of started i told you he would still be sore :)

He's done nothing to impress me so far. Needs to spend more time on his feet.

Case of Wisey's mate being dropped straight into a team regardless of what it'll do to the team. It was good before he arrived, and a winning team should never be changed.

Drop him again.

Wise said he wouldn' just play him because they were friends but that seems to be what he's doing as you say. Wise should at least wait until he's match fit

Ince was poor today. he needs to get his arse in gear soon or he should be dropped! just because he is a "name" doesn't mean to say he should make the starting line-up

This is the performance i expected Tuesday. seems although he proved a few of us wrong that night, our fears are/were justified.

he should be sent away for 2/3 weeks to get fully fit, then made to battle for his place in the squad.

Also, do you think that we are expecting too much from him. after all, hes 38, he aint gonna be tearing around the field anymore. Are expectation levels too high?

Still too early to judge for me. He needs fitness then we'll know one way or the other.

Not sure about him and Evans in the same team mind.

it wasn't a winning team that was changed, as we lost at wrexham.

he's clearly unfit but i thought he had a good game against Franchise, although struggled today. asking someone who isn't fit to play central midfield in such a combative league is akin to asking me to perform ballet.

is he going to be the new swindon scapegoat?

You would hope not, he was taken off at half-time so Wise obviously saw like we all did that it wasn't working.  Don't think he was that great against MK but he did a job.

the only other option in the middle at the moment is weston, who has flattered to decieve, so i could see the logic in bringing ince in. the boost it gave the fans at wrexham at half-time was quite notable i thought.

it didn't pay off in quite such spectacular fashion, but it's back to the drawing board. i swear some people still think we're at the bottom of the league.

I'm just shocked Holgate hasn't been given another chance since the Brentford game.



The football league is upside down do-dah do-dah :D

ince hasn't impressed me and i don't think it's because expectations are too high, he doesn't look part of the team, and since he's arrived we haven't played aswell, at 2:40 he'd already gone in and didn't seem to want to warm-up with the team today, aswell as having to get told to sign autographs for the people he'd just walked past! i don't think expecting him to hold up play and look interested is too much to ask! i'll give him a month to prove himself. Although i don't like the fact to start off with he was saying he wanted to come and get his coaching badges and playing was a bonus (once he got fit) now he's in the team straight away and saying he wants to play 20+ games?! I hope he proves me wrong, and is an asset to our club.

er....he come on as sub at the wrexham game didnt he?

Maybe its just his presence in the team thats affecting them.

We've got a reserve game against Cardiff on Wednesday, wonder if Incey will play the full 90 in that one, he needs to.

The way I see it is that he probably wouldn't have played on Saturday if Jack Smith was available.

Shakes wouldn't have had to play at RB, Weston would not have had to play RM so Shakes would have been playing RM with Weston in the middle.

The other option would of course been Pook in the centre.  Wonder how many people would have had more of a problem with that?

was going to say the same thing - the squad was decided due to injury

whats happened to Gareth Whalley anyway. isn't he back from injury yet? its just another option should we need it. what about Wise playing himself as well?

Think Wise sees himself as a squad player for the second half of the season once more injuries, fatigue and suspensions are playing their part more.

Just my gut feeling on this.

Wise, Poyet and Whalley were all doing laps around the pitch on Saturday morning. Poyet had a bleepy stopwatch thing in his hand so they are obviously both taking their own fitness levels really seriously and we might probably see Wise soonish.

i reckon we should send him out on loan to get fit :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

ince could be out for tomorrowl, so weston and evo in the middle? shakes and caton out wide, smith to return at RB?

Caton won't start i reckon Fola on the left with Monkey on the bench to come on

fola won't start unless it's uptop

Sorry to dregde this old one up....

Think he'll put in an appearance tonight - nobody really commented on the timely virus he had!

you know your career has gone down hill when Michael Pook looks the more impressive player....

agreed :D

but Pook is THE ROCK! :wink:

You're not wrong there!