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Title: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: lambourn red on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 15:34:44
Never saw this one coming

http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=4&fid=27&sty=2&act=1&mid=2125060609&page=1

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A55519310

What the hell is going on we let 5 in and then send out our only replacement CB on trial ? >:(


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 15:37:16
Because he's shit


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: lambourn red on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 15:40:33
He is no more shit than the cunts that were out their yesterday, morrison and Greer have no pace at least jerel has pace the main thing that lets him down was his distribution. I would rather start Ifil and Greer thqan Morrison and Greer a nippy forward will have a field day against those 2 Oh wait a minute 1 did yesterday.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Rich Pullen on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 15:42:51
Considering our depth or lack of it... I'm surprised.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: STFC_Gazza on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 15:45:47
On Aberdeen's official website

http://www.afc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/clubNewsDetail/0,,10284~1748566,00.html


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: JPC82 on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 15:47:02
seems DW cant do anything right at the moment, we were embarassing ripped apart yesterday by pace, so whats his first reaction? to try and sell our only pacey centre back, crazy!


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: swindontownfc92 on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 15:47:22
I think its likely to be his brother who is on a free and was previously on trial with Franchise


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Batch on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 15:49:18
What the Fuck. Ifil on form is miles better than morrison. It has gone  stale for him here though but where is the cover?


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: jonny72 on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 15:49:47
If someone can tell me where he lives I'll go round and pack his bags for him. I'll chip in for a one way train ticket to Scotland as well.

We've got more than enough centre backs that can cover there if necessary. Better to free his salary up so we can get a decent striker instead.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: JPC82 on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 15:49:51
I think its likely to be his brother who is on a free and was previously on trial with Franchise

it does say on the report Jerel Ifil playing at centre back, Phil is a right back, oh and the fact it says Jerel not Phil :)


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Rich Pullen on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 15:52:03
it does say on the report Jerel Ifil playing at centre back, Phil is a right back, oh and the fact it says Jerel not Phil :)

Good work Columbo!

Interesting how he is praised in that article too.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Barnard on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 15:52:25
According to their site its definitely Jerel.

Last Season Greer and Morrison looked assured as a pairing. From DW's perspective both Cuthbert and Lescinel can play at Centre Back, and Jerel dropped too many clangers after Wilson came in. This trial would have been arranged before yesterdays debacle.

Do Abderdeen have any pacy young goalscorers that could be part of a deal for Ifil?


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: STFC_Gazza on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 15:54:05
why worry, we have Aljokefree!


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Rich Pullen on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 15:55:55
Elaborate....


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Arriba on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 16:01:36
best for all concerned if he moves on.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Samdy Gray on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 16:09:25
Surely he can only play for them if we've released him from his contract? Or already sold him...


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Rich Pullen on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 16:10:00
Good point Sam, you can get permission from the club I believe.

200+ games for Swindon says he has my respect... I'd wish him well at Aberdeen if Mark McGhee wanted to purchase Ifil but I wouldn't be gutted to see him go

As long as we don't enter September another man down within our already weak(ish) squad


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Samdy Gray on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 16:16:23
Considering he was on the bench for us yesterday, it seems quite implausible that he's in Aberdeen today.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Rich Pullen on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 16:18:30
It would be a cracking coincidence/wind-up with it wasn't him though :)

I hope it didn't effect Wilson's judgement RE: substitutions yesterday. It almost certainly did (not that it would have made a massive difference)


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Samdy Gray on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 16:25:23
They can't be on about our Jerel Ifil, surely? Unless Scottish football is a lot worse than I thought it was...

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The praise for Ifil on RedTv was unreserved.

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Ifil is nicknamed The Beast? Got to be a good sign, we desperately need a few hard bastards.

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according to Red TV Ifil looks a good player

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text from my loon saying that Ifil is getting stuck in, playing pretty basic football but doing it well.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: lambourn red on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 16:28:58
Considering he was on the bench for us yesterday, it seems quite implausible that he's in Aberdeen today.

He is not they are away to Hull in a friendly!!


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Luci on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 16:30:06
This surely can't be true?  Ifil isn't as bad as some make out, short memories hey and seeing as we did let in 5 yesterday, I wouldn't be letting any central defenders go anywhere until we know whether what we currently have can make the grade.



Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Samdy Gray on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 16:30:37
Meh. Aberdeen.. Hull... they're both far enough north to be considered Scotland in my book.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: lambourn red on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 16:35:07
So that is 3 strikers, a left back, a creative midfielder and now a pacy centre back we require. I hope DW has plenty of irons in the fire because come 31st of august if we have not strengthened we are in for a long hard winter.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 16:44:00
This surely can't be true?  Ifil isn't as bad as some make out, short memories hey and seeing as we did let in 5 yesterday, I wouldn't be letting any central defenders go anywhere until we know whether what we currently have can make the grade.



I remember he was quite bad for most of last season. Ifil seems to suffer from the Brezovan/Easton scenario too - fans remember the decent performances and not the bad, until he actually plays that is.

Sure, he has his moments and he's not rediculously bad, but given we have a lot of options at centre back it makes sense to get rid of someone. Aljofree wouldn't pass anyone's fitness test right now so Ifil would be the natural choice to release.

A thread which proves this point is this one here, following our terrible loss to Cheltenham. When Ifil returned to the team matters did not improve:

http://thetownend.com/index.php/topic,29913.0.html


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Ralphy on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 16:47:59
Maybe ex Shithead Lee Miller is coming to us in a swap deal!


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Luci on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 16:49:22
All I'm saying is that I wouldn't be so quick to let him go anywhere as our defence obviously lacked something pretty major yesterday.  I wasn't there so can't comment on tactical stuff, and am not saying Ifil is the answer to our problems at all, just a bit concerned of what is the answer to that defensive disaster.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: jonny72 on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 16:52:47
So that is 3 strikers, a left back, a creative midfielder and now a pacy centre back we require.

Well we coped the whole of last season without a decent "pacy centre back", so what makes you think we need one now?

[Edit : whoops, I put "with" instead of "without".]


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 17:03:55
we nearly went down ffs thats not coping


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: lambourn red on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 17:07:54
Well we coped the whole of last season with a decent "pacy centre back", so what makes you think we need one now?

If Ifil goes then who do we have with any pace at the back ? we were woefully exposed yesterday when the opposition have a bit of pace, Ifil with a decent talker/distributor like Greer is good player but when he is partnered with in experience of Morrison then we have seen the the bad side of him. With Aljofree out for a few months who comes in when greer or Morrison are injured suspended ?


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: jonny72 on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 17:10:24
If Ifil goes then who do we have with any pace at the back ?

No matter how fast a turd is, it is still a turd.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Chubbs on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 17:17:52
ifil is a good CB, Malpas ruined him, took away all his confidence, with the right guidance DW could get him back to his former self, but it doesnt look like DW rates him at all,


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: lambourn red on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 17:20:24
Last season Ifil was awfull but he was no more awfull than Aljofree, Brezovan, Smith, Smith, Amankwah so I find it amazing you single Ifil out for being the poor one. The seasons before that he has been superb and the year we went up he should have been our player of the season, Malpas knocked the stuffing out of the guy but he is not a bad player I would much rather have Ifil in their than Morrison any day of the week.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 17:22:39
We should have sold Morrison and made a lot of money then.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Rich Pullen on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 17:22:51
Now on the OS

http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10341~1748712,00.html


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: leefer on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 17:24:44
Morrison is going to be a good player...hes better than Ifill even at 18...Ifil has had chances galore to secure a team place...his distribution is dire and makes silly mistakes at vital times...his concentration is piss poor..nice bloke Mr 100%.....but not good enough.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: jonny72 on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 17:24:53
I'm not singling Ifil out, we had loads of shit players last season. The only difference is we've offloaded most of them and the ones that are left we can't even give away.

But more importantly I think we've got better options than Ifil now and if we can offload him we should as we can use his salary towards getting a decent striker in.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: timmyg on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 17:30:36
An Aberdeen fan on another forum said that Jerel did quite well on his trial and things look fairly positive based on today.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: lambourn red on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 17:30:41
I dont understand the infatuation with Morrison ok he has a decent throw and is good in the air but he is slow and has the turning circle of the QEII, Greer has no pace either I just fear that we are going to get outdone time and time again this season with teams have a pacey striker which is probably everyone except us and Carlisle!! I can only think that DW is going to use Cuthbert there when he is fully fit as celtic fans all said he was a CB.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: leefer on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 17:31:17
http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=4&fid=27&sty=2&act=1&mid=2125057082

Sounds like he played well.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Rich Pullen on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 17:34:43
Second half we passed it really well, Ifill was excellent, and must be signed up immediately!!! The Dons fans, of whom there were a good 500 or so, even started singing his praises, with a rousing chorus of 22,22,22,22,22 to the tune of Here we go! Nobody had any info on him, apart from mates' texts, so most Dons fans didn't know who he was, but as someone said at half-time.
"I dinna care, fa he is, he can bide!"

Quite.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: leefer on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 17:35:58
I dont understand the infatuation with Morrison ok he has a decent throw and is good in the air but he is slow and has the turning circle of the QEII, Greer has no pace either I just fear that we are going to get outdone time and time again this season with teams have a pacey striker which is probably everyone except us and Carlisle!! I can only think that DW is going to use Cuthbert there when he is fully fit as celtic fans all said he was a CB.

Hes 18....going to learn..a very good temperament...at his age he will have bad matches,its to be expected......Cox aside he was our brightest prospect last season,...you cant honestly think Ifil would have made a difference yesterday Lambourne?










































Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: leefer on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 17:36:34
Apologies for that.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: BANGKOK RED on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 17:39:59
Why Aberdeen, and why so out of the blue.

As mentioned before, I can't help but think that they have a striker or two that we are looking at.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Rich Pullen on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 17:42:34
This was probably known within the club for a while. Mark McGhee will know all about him from his Brighton days.

You'd think they'll have several irons in the fire, I believe that they normally do. Whether or not these come into fruition is different matter.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: lambourn red on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 17:44:43
I am not saying he has not got talent but he is not the answer now he is one for the future , we are going to get done week in week out for pace with a central pairing of Greer and Morrison sorry but thats my opinion .


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 17:45:15
Why Aberdeen, and why so out of the blue.

As mentioned before, I can't help but think that they have a striker or two that we are looking at.

Aberdeen obviously need a defender or 2 after shipping 5 v Sigma Olomouc, the level of wages paid in Sweatie land outside of the Auld Firm are on a par with L1 here, and I daresay JI's name has been circulated as we've too many centre halves.

McGee will now JI from his time of managing Brighton.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: leefer on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 17:45:49
Well hes had a trial..did well..........goodbye Jerill..will free up a big salary.........good luck to him if he does go.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 17:49:22
I understand why Jerel will leave just think the timing is fucked up.Jerel will always get my respect and tbf the cuntish comments towards him are bang out of order.

Always gives it everything and deserves more respect than some give him.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: lambourn red on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 17:56:31
I understand why Jerel will leave just think the timing is fucked up.Jerel will always get my respect and tbf the cuntish comments towards him are bang out of order.

Always gives it everything and deserves more respect than some give him.

Bang on , nowhere near as bad as some are making out unless they have only been watching the Town for a couple of seasons. I just think he has been managed poorly, under Sturrock and Wise he would of been one of the players that most Town fans would have gone mad at if he was sold and at that time there were plenty of teams watching him.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: RobertT on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 17:57:19
Hey, on the whole he'sdone well here, but he never delivered on the promise he showed and he never managed to grow that football brain we all hoped would come about in time.  He's too old to have to be nannied through a game, which he has to be at times.  Had he raised his game last season and said "I'm a senior player at this club and someone needs to do something to lift the place" when we were really depressingly easy to beat, then I'd be concerned.  As it was, he was awful last year I think and as far as I've been aware we've been trying to ship him out all summer so hardly a suprise.

Maybe he will flourish up there, because he's a good bloke and I wish him well, but I won't lose any sleep about him leaving.  He is not the answer to any problems we may have, that is for sure.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: michael on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 17:57:26
What a bizarre story.

But it will be an easy decision for Jerel to move up north, and good for him too.

He has seen some bad times here and has perhaps gone a bit stale.

Elsewhere I see that highly-rated Rochdale striker Adam Le Fondre's move to Rotherham is off because they couldn't match his wage demands.

I am tempted to make a bid on Danny's behalf for this player.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: RobertT on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 18:00:30
Oh, and his legendary pace to recover from his missed interceptions etc began to wane as well.  I remember a few players managing to easily out do him in a straight sprint last year.  He had a huge opportunity to put his hand up and take on some responsibility, he had 2 in fact, because he could of stepped his game up when a new Manager came in.  As it is, he did little to show a new Manager why he should keep him on his wages, probably much more than Morrison earns.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 18:00:38
 Sometimes players need a new club, and I think this is where JI is at the moment.  We do though appear to be timing things wonderfully atm...like sign a 3rd keeper when we've 1 striker....get rid of popular CB when we've just had our worst ever opening day drubbing.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Rich Pullen on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 18:01:27
It's a great move for him but I do wonder whether he'd turn down any potential offer because of the distance between London and Aberdeen, he's got a young family has he not?


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Samdy Gray on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 18:02:43
He lives in Swindon, so I guess he'd just move the family up north.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Rich Pullen on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 18:05:04
He lives in Swindon, so I guess he'd just move the family up north.

But he and his family are Londoners, I was referring to homesickness really. Swindon to London is a short drive... But Aberdeen? Not really :)


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: jimbob on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 18:09:44
just a thought, but didn't Jerel take an age to move from his gaff in the big smoke??

If he is a bit of a home bird, why would he move so far away?? I personally dont think he'll end up going up there....if it was somewhere Southern based, I could see this happening....they'd have to be offering mucho bucko to him for him to relocate...I think he would be a loss to the squad and if he can collect reasonable wages sat on the bench for us, why would he be in such a rush to leave??


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: lambourn red on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 18:10:04
I think the abuse his wife got last season which happened down in front of me in Arkells was the last straw for Jerel, I would not be surprised if it is him looking for a move as much as it is DW wanting to ship him out and to be honest I dont blame him that event last season was an embarrasment and not something a players wife should have to endure.

If Cuthbert has been brought in as a CB and not a RB then this surely means in an ideal world we still need a RB and LB.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: STFC_Gazza on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 18:11:59
Kepe Ifil, get rid of Aljokefree.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Rich Pullen on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 18:12:06
He'd join on that basis that he'd be playing Rangers and Celtic four times a season... Play well against either of them a couple of times and he'll be a Bhoy or a Ger before he knows it :D


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Posh Red on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 18:17:02

Because he's shit

So was Morrison yesterday, doesn't stop people creaming their pants about him on here though does it?


No matter how fast a turd is, it is still a turd.

Yeah, but a quick turd is better than a slow turd, even if the slow turd has a long throw ;)


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: RobertT on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 18:17:51
Tell that to Rory Delap


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Bogus Dave on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 18:21:07
I'm sure ifils a lovely man, and the service he's given to the club has been brilliant. He hasn't progressed though, so its probably best he moves on, and i wish him all the best in the future.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: jimbob on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 18:23:46
I'm sure ifils a lovely man, and the service he's given to the club has been brilliant. He hasn't progressed though, so its probably best he moves on, and i wish him all the best in the future.

just out of interest, what do you class as progressed? and who in recent years from our team/squad would you say has?


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: JOHNNY REEVES on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 18:27:13
on his day he,s our best defender but why do we always leave him last man to distribute the ball,one bad pass and the moans sap all his comfidence.That said i still think he,s better than morrison.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Nemo on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 18:29:12
just out of interest, what do you class as progressed? and who in recent years from our team/squad would you say has?

Paynter.

/end


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: JPC82 on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 18:29:32
on his day he,s our best defender but why do we always leave him last man to distribute the ball,one bad pass and the moans sap all his comfidence.That said i still think he,s better than morrison.

absolutely spot on, Technically Jerel is the worst footballer the world has ever seen, but he can tackle is strong and very quick, he played his best football under Dennis Wise and Wise went on record as saying he doesnt want to see Jerel playing long balls out from the back, and i didnt see him do it once under Wise, he would win a tackle and pass to the nearest man so we could start our move


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: BANGKOK RED on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 18:30:46
Can people stop it with the "Aljokefree" attempt at a humorous name please, it really is bad.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: JPC82 on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 18:31:04
and added to that, we all know he is massively a confidence player, so when he tries a worldy pass and it doesnt come off the crowd moan and he turns shit


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: JPC82 on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 18:31:38
Can people stop it with the "Aljokefree" attempt at a humorous name please, it really is bad.

JPC82 'likes' this in the facebook way


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: jimbob on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 18:33:05
Can people stop it with the "Aljokefree" attempt at a humorous name please, it really is bad.

lets just call him 'aljokebloke' then


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: lambourn red on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 18:33:56
So was Morrison yesterday, doesn't stop people creaming their pants about him on here though does it?


Yeah, but a quick turd is better than a slow turd, even if the slow turd has a long throw ;)

I thought it was just me who thought along those lines, I know he is only 18 but I really do not see that he stands out as anything special. I really do fear we could ship as many goals as last season if SM is our first choice CB the difference is we do not have a 32 goal striker banging them in the other end. I have been feeling positive about this season all summer and I felt sure that Ifil and greer would be our starting pair but I am now starting to worry that last season may be a recurring nightmare


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 18:35:20
What the hell? Thought this was a joke when I clicked on it. Clearly not. Get rid of Aljofree not Ifil.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: JPC82 on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 18:36:57
ive always been critical of Sean since i seen him in the youths 2years ago and thought he wasnt good enough, but i thought end of last season and this pre season he has been awesome, didnt go yesterday so cant comment but hes a hell of a player


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: jimbob on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 18:38:16
hasney isney goin anywhere whilst he is injured....unfortunately


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: JPC82 on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 18:38:57
hasney isney goin anywhere whilst he is injured....unfortunately

and no club would even pay him half of what hes earning here, so he will be here till his contract is up


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Nemo on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 18:39:34
When is that by the way, must be the end of this season surely?


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Rich Pullen on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 18:41:22
Hasney joined in 2007 so it must be up next summer.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Posh Red on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 18:50:32
I thought it was just me who thought along those lines, I know he is only 18 but I really do not see that he stands out as anything special. I really do fear we could ship as many goals as last season if SM is our first choice CB the difference is we do not have a 32 goal striker banging them in the other end. I have been feeling positive about this season all summer and I felt sure that Ifil and greer would be our starting pair but I am now starting to worry that last season may be a recurring nightmare

No, there seems to be a love-in when it comes to Morrison, but people just ignore the mistakes he makes. I think it was Oldham at home last season, where Aljofree covered Morrisons mistakes time after time, but Aljofree then makes mistakes of his own & it's him that gets slaughtered (probably fair enough in most cases).


ive always been critical of Sean since i seen him in the youths 2years ago and thought he wasnt good enough, but i thought end of last season and this pre season he has been awesome, didnt go yesterday so cant comment but hes a hell of a player

I didn't see him play in the youth team TBF, but I don't think he has progressed that much since he came into the first team.  He reminds me a bit of Andy Thomson, who showed promise, but never really delivered.

Time will tell if he has what it takes, but to be a top class defender with a lack of pace you need to read the game really well (like Calderwood did), but to this point I don't think Sean has shown that he can do that.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 18:51:01
Morrison is a good player.You wont find many better 18 year old centre halves at the moment unfortunatly he is still learning which means we will see mistakes.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Batch on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 19:03:35
Morrison is a good player.You wont find many better 18 year old centre halves at the moment unfortunatly he is still learning which means we will see mistakes.

Hence why he is forgiven so easily.

If you take age out of it hemakes just as many mistakes as Ifil.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: juddie on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 19:05:23
I think STFC Dave summed it up perfectly: Jerel has been a great servant. He was a key figure for us a few years ago, he's simply gone stale. I wish him all the best if he moves. Good player, good lad, just needs a change. Good luck Jerel.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 19:18:33
How can you take age out of it? Morrison is better than ifil and has progressed more in 30 games than jerel has in 5 years


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Arriba on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 19:19:13
morrison is 18 and for that reason alone deserves some slack.ifil has had plenty of time to improve and hasn't.
are people not allowed to groan when they see him make a timely challenge,then punt the ball into touch unchallenged?
i bet he was groaning himself!

i think ifil had alot of slack from the crowd in the last couple of years.he was rightly critisised on here,but the crowd stuck with him.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Rich Pullen on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 19:21:59
Ifil will always have that moment when he scored against Walsall... That was great.

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Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: dell boy on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 19:30:28
I think the abuse his wife got last season which happened down in front of me in Arkells was the last straw for Jerel, I would not be surprised if it is him looking for a move as much as it is DW wanting to ship him out and to be honest I dont blame him that event last season was an embarrasment and not something a players wife should have to endure.

If Cuthbert has been brought in as a CB and not a RB then this surely means in an ideal world we still need a RB and LB.

I am of the same opinion the abuse his wife received was not acceptable and any bloke is not going to stand for that, she use to come every week to matches with the family.

And as mentioned a few times before, its time for him to move on, good for Ifil and his family and that's what matters to him I'm sure.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: STFC_Gazza on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 19:47:27
I would say if Ifil wants to go, he will go, Aberdeen's official website sings his praises, Sadly Jerel's career at STFC is over by the looks of it and good luck to him.

"Ifil Proves To be Tower at the back"

http://www.afc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/clubNewsDetail/0,,10284~1748566,00.html



Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 19:51:19
One plus from Jerel's possible departure is maybe the freeing up of extra money for a striker or 3.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: blinkpip on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 19:51:54
All the early excitement of this season is slowly fading within 24 hours.
Ive rather have Ifil at the back as Morrison still learning.
One injury for either Morrison or Greer, then with fucked.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 19:53:22
He obviously has no issues with moving or he would of turned the offer of a trial down wouldn't he.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: STFC_Gazza on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 19:53:42
I was cautiously optimistic and if we signed a striker would be concerned. Hoping y-day was just a shit day and we learn from it and move on. Lets see what the next 2 weeks bring.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: alanmayes on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 19:54:14
Jerel's at a stage of his career where he needs a change of club and a change of scenary.
You can't blame him for wanting a new challenge and he'd get a good contract as well.
Good luck to the guy.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: STFC_Gazza on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 19:54:20
He obviously has no issues with moving or he would of turned the offer of a trial down wouldn't he.

Exactly and the fact Aberdeen are praising him I think he is gone. He has served us well and I wish him luck.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Barnard on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 19:54:28
Aberdeen apparently stated they wouldn't be paying any transfer fees this summer, so might appear we're gonna swap him.

Certainly hope we're not letting a contracted player go for free.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 19:56:56
I would say if Ifil wants to go, he will go, Aberdeen's official website sings his praises, Sadly Jerel's career at STFC is over by the looks of it and good luck to him.

"Ifil Proves To be Tower at the back"

http://www.afc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/clubNewsDetail/0,,10284~1748566,00.html



This may be just be a coincidence, but Lee Miller is there... on whom Wilson wasted 300K of Shitty's money....still only 26 or something.  Could JI be part of a deal?


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: JPC82 on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 19:58:32
Lee Millers name was mentioned a few times during the summer, makes sense


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 20:01:07
Yeah i would of thought so.I would take miller


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 20:02:35
Lee Millers name was mentioned a few times during the summer, makes sense
:suicide:


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: alanmayes on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 20:10:43
Apparently earlier this year, Aberdeen's young striker Chris McGuire wanted to go out on loan,
but this was turned down by the then Don's manager Jimmy Calderwood.Maybe time to ask?

Looking at his stats and physical stature,he reminds me of Bryan Wade..

http://www.afc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Squad/firstteamplayerprofile/0,,10284~33956,00.html


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: JPC82 on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 20:13:33
a young aberdeen striker? fuck off, we should be signing aberdeens best players not their shit young players


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: JPC82 on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 20:16:10
yeah just like Charlie Mulgrew, who we was close to signing, and he is one of Aberdeens best players


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Dazzza on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 20:25:59
Best of luck to him a great servant to the club and under the right gaffer he’ll get back some of that lost confidence and form.  

Having just shipped 5 goals yesterday it’s a risky move from Wilson to let him go.  

Lescinel is still an unproven commodity, Morrison is still at that age where he’s developing and can’t be relied on throughout the season while Aljofree is crocked and had arguably a worse season than Jerel.

Please lord don’t let it involve a swap deal with Miller though or I’ll eat my own arsehole coated in breadcrumbs.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: JPC82 on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 20:31:44
Mulgrew is a very good player with very good delivery with crosses and at set pieces.
Great shame we couldn't get him last summer from Wolves.Rangers like him and Celtic
would have him back in an instant.

so we should aim alot lower and get a striker who is unproven in the SPL and hang on while i wikipedia him ................................................scored 8 in 78 games, no thanks


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Spencer_White on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 20:54:42
Regarding Ifil, I think he has been good for us. On his day he was the best defender in the league. The last great performance by Ifil was the 2-2 draw with Walsall, just before Malpas came in and ruined his game.

Two successive managers have not rated him here, so it is time for him to move on. Aberdeen would be a great move for Ifil football wise. He would get to play at some great grounds, a whole set of new scenery. Hope he can make it work on a personal level. Wish him all the best.

Also sorry at the treatment his fammily got down here.

Back to Lee Miller, looks a carthorse. A lot of his goals have been penalties, bumping up some very ordinary statistics.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: jonny72 on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 20:56:06
What happened with Ifil's family? I must have missed it when it happened as I don't recall anything.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: lambourn red on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 21:44:28
What happened with Ifil's family? I must have missed it when it happened as I don't recall anything.

His wife got racially abused during a game when Malpas was in charge by some knucklehead he got chucked out but the whole incident was a bit unsavioury, I cant remember what game it was but Jerel had made a couple of mistakes the guy was slating him big time with some pretty nasty comments and then i dont know what happened but something must have been said and then he started on his wife.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Talk Talk on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 21:48:01
I love Jerel. I want him on my mantelpiece just so I can admire his thighs in the privacy of my own home.

On another note I always thought that he tried as hard as he could for Town to the best of his abilities and fair play for that. Shite managers and coaches aside he deserves a lot of respect.

Good luck Jerel and best wishes.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: carbonwhite on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 21:51:15
he shut jermaine defoe and leroy lita out of the games they played against us he was a great man marker gd luck to him if he does go


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: glos_robin on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 21:57:17
If he does go good luck to him, he's been through the good, but mostly bad times with us.

All I will say is that our defence needs some pace in it, if it isn't Ifil that is going to inject that pace then I hope Wilson is more successful getting a replacement for him than he has been sorting out strikers. We just can't play Greer and Morrison together against pacy attacks as even the worst long balls become threatening. I still don't think Morrison is ready to be a first choice centre back and to be honest I think his complete lack of pace will see him spend the majority of career in this league as football is increasingly becoming a game for athletes as much as talent.
Also with Greer having a history of long term injuries as well we really need to ensure we have adequate cover at the back.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: sonicyouth on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 21:59:46
on his day jerel can be one of the best central defenders at this level. unfortunately, his day comes around once or twice a season.

then again, if he could consistently perform at that level he wouldn't be playing at swindon town


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: lambourn red on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 22:07:02
http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=4&fid=27&sty=2&act=1&mid=2125056700

looks like Sturrock has nicked a couple of Aberdeen trialists and they are predicting he will nick Ifil, one says he saw him play last week in a friendly against plymouth last week so might know about him. i think I might register and tell the thick fuckers he was his manager for 2 years soapy tit wank


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: alanmayes on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 22:08:31
Jerel certainly made a big impression on McGhee,judging by his quotes after the game against Hull.

"This display does not get that European tie out of my head, that's for sure.

"I know for a fact that we are nowhere near as bad as those results suggest and, if we had been able to include someone like Jerel Ifil at the heart of our defence in those games, we wouldn't have had those beatings.

"Jerel looked so impressive on trial for us against Hull, and I really do feel he would have made a difference in the European ties.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: lambourn red on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 22:13:02
another comment from an Aberdeen fan who went
Just in from the match to with MMC. Good accurate report hulldon. The o.g from Gardner was a cracker off a great cross by Aluko. Second half was a different story from the first. We looked alot more dangerous with the trialists, yes - trialists!!!
Our support sang and bounced through the whole match and deano almost scored with his second touch of the ball with a volley from 12 yrds which was cleared from just inside the 6yrd box.
The 2 centre back trialists looked well up for it but IFIL was by far inho our best player today. He won EVERY header, challenged for everything and only gave the ball away once.

Not bad for a Turd considering it was only against Premier League opposition he would not have handled the mighty Gills though!! :(


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: RobertT on Sunday, August 9, 2009, 22:50:17
I reckon he would do really well on trial for anyone and he'd be great if we could afford a defender to man mark a sole person all game every game.  You see, it's when he doesn't have to think about the game and be a team player that he does really well.  It's why he's always needed someone next to him to talk him through a game and I thought Greer could do it, but he completely lost hsi way last year.

If he knows he's on trial he's probably focussing really hard on just doing the basics.

If he could only have grown up as a player we could have sold him on for some good money by now.

Not sure what Morrison has done to warrant being the new focus of lets destroy a teens career nice an early at Town syndrome.  Most clubs like seeing youth players make it, don't they?  Lets be honest, if Premier League scouts fancy him then he has something.  Central defenders do not need lots of pace, very few in the Premier League have (Terry is hardly a greyhound), because good defences work as a unit.  If pace was all you needed to succeed then Earnshaw should have been banging them in against players like Terry, Vidic, Dunne, Woodgate, Dawson, Hangelaand etc etc etc.  Yes, athletes seem to be the en vouge way for midfielders and forwards and full backs, but good old fashioned centre halves exist the world over still.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, August 10, 2009, 00:22:06
Long balls over the top can be countered with a good defensive line and aerial ability. Through balls by closing down through the midfield. It sounds like none of that happened.

Regarding Ifil's pace, it's a good attribute to have. But look at Mark Marshall, bags of pace and no end product. McNamee is often criticised for having lots of tricks but no end product. McGovern doesn't have any pace but can supposedly whip in a decent cross if he somehow find the space.

The point being is that Ifil has pace, can tackle but he often loses his head and goes missing. His pace alone will not make him a good defender and sort out our defensive problems (from one very poor game). Rob is spot on in that respect and that's really what I meant earlier when I said he was shit. Clearly I overexaggerated because the even though he was pants last season he'll be the answer to all our defensive problems argument is pretty weak and winds me up.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: glos_robin on Monday, August 10, 2009, 07:26:00
Long balls over the top can be countered with a good defensive line and aerial ability. Through balls by closing down through the midfield. It sounds like none of that happened.
Sorry but you have to have some kind of pace in the defence, if it isn't the centre backs then it needs to come fromt he full backs. I'm not saying Ifil is the answer, far from it in fact but if your back line is slower than sunday morning driver then your going to hit problems. We saw it with Viveash and Reeves, and we've seen it on Saturday, there needs to be at least one person in the back 4 who can keep up with the majority of attackers. Morrison and Greer are both very similar and I think that is the problem, everyone says you can't have very similar players up front and I'm saying you can't at the back either.
Only time will tell but if Morrison and Greer are to be our first choice centre backs then we need some pace either side of them.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: lambourn red on Monday, August 10, 2009, 07:35:08
Sorry but you have to have some kind of pace in the defence, if it isn't the centre backs then it needs to come fromt he full backs. I'm not saying Ifil is the answer, far from it in fact but if your back line is slower than sunday morning driver then your going to hit problems. We saw it with Viveash and Reeves, and we've seen it on Saturday, there needs to be at least one person in the back 4 who can keep up with the majority of attackers. Morrison and Greer are both very similar and I think that is the problem, everyone says you can't have very similar players up front and I'm saying you can't at the back either.
Only time will tell but if Morrison and Greer are to be our first choice centre backs then we need some pace either side of them.


That is exactly the point I am trying to make, Morrison and Greer are both slow against certain teams that may not be a problem but against a pacey forward line we will get murdered week in week out. I just hope Cuthbert when he is back to full fitness is a bit quicker than either of those two as at least it gives us an option without Ifil.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, August 10, 2009, 08:06:44
Put Amankwaah at right back then, he's been decent there, certainly got better than when he first joined. Or we could opt for Casal at right back, he's got a bit of pace about him.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, August 10, 2009, 08:08:50
then again, if he could consistently perform at that level he wouldn't be playing at swindon town

You'll be wrong about that soon  ;D



Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: glos_robin on Monday, August 10, 2009, 08:16:08
Put Amankwaah at right back then, he's been decent there, certainly got better than when he first joined.
That's the first thing we should try and hopefully we will this week, I just have my doubts that Greer and Morrison will be a partnership that is as solid as Wilson is looking for as I just think they are too similar, but again only time will tell.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, August 10, 2009, 08:20:38
Greer really picked the defense up when he joined last year, we became more solid and results show that. I think the problem was in midfield.

I'd be happy with either Ifil or Morrison starting alongside Greer because both have performed just as well since Greer joining. If Wilson thinks we've got adequate options at the back and Ifil is surplus to requirements then I'd rather we did find him another club and free up some budget.

What if this trial was for a loan move? The Dons have no money to buy players and Ifil is under contract. Maybe the issue is with wages. Worst comes to worst you put in a clause where he can be recalled.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: DiV on Monday, August 10, 2009, 08:27:39
Greer really picked the defense up when he joined last year**, we became more solid and results show that.

** and Jamie Vincent came back from injury.

I cant believe that we are willing to trim our squad even further when Wilson has spent weeks talking about bringing in more players.

How many fit centre backs have we got 3?


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, August 10, 2009, 08:33:14
Cuthbert
Lescinel
Greer
Ifil
Morrison

We may be getting rid of Ifil to bring in someone else (a CB). Anyone think of that?

If we'd won 5-0 I'm not sure the reaction to this news would have been the same. That's not aimed at anyone in particular, but on the whole Ifil wasn't given good reviews last year and a lot of people were writing him off.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: tans on Monday, August 10, 2009, 08:34:23
DONT GO JEREL!!


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: DiV on Monday, August 10, 2009, 08:34:40
Cuthberts played right back and Lescinel left back.

Anyway, my take on this is Wilson has been told before he can bring in a striker on a permenant contract he needs to get rid of someone. One in One out.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, August 10, 2009, 08:38:56
They can both play centre back too DV.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: glos_robin on Monday, August 10, 2009, 08:51:08
Cuthberts played right back and Lescinel left back.

Anyway, my take on this is Wilson has been told before he can bring in a striker on a permenant contract he needs to get rid of someone. One in One out.

If we've blown our wage bill with the current squad then I'd be mortified tbh and some serious questions would need to be asked. I can't imagine that with the sale of Cox and the number of players we released in the summer that we are already maxed out.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: DiV on Monday, August 10, 2009, 08:56:34
well if the playing budgets been cut...


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: lambourn red on Monday, August 10, 2009, 08:58:10
Cuthberts played right back and Lescinel left back.

Anyway, my take on this is Wilson has been told before he can bring in a striker on a permenant contract he needs to get rid of someone. One in One out.

If that is the case then we are in big trouble 13 out plus Cox and probably Ifil plus Cox Money, if Ifil is going before we can sign anyone else then we may need to re think how this season is going to pan out.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: DiV on Monday, August 10, 2009, 09:10:27
I dont expect the likes of David Lucas and Jonathan Douglas come cheap mind...


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Arriba on Monday, August 10, 2009, 09:17:12
look at the goals conceeded on saturday.none of them are due to lack of pace on our part.all of them are due to poor positioning and losing markers.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: glos_robin on Monday, August 10, 2009, 09:36:45
look at the goals conceeded on saturday.none of them are due to lack of pace on our part.all of them are due to poor positioning and losing markers.

It wasn't just the goals though, if you were there (I'm assuming you weren't but sorry if you were) we were roasted alive for pace time and time again at the back.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Nemo on Monday, August 10, 2009, 09:38:35
It wasn't just the goals though, if you were there (I'm assuming you weren't but sorry if you were)

Not half as sorry as he would be.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: RobertT on Monday, August 10, 2009, 10:11:19
Both our likely normal 1st choice fullbacks have pace.  A well organised back line far outweighs the need for pace and if we hang on to a player because he was a bit quick a couple of years ago, then we really are plucking at straws.  I would imagine Cuthbert will fill the 2nd centre half spot, especially as Wilson still wanted a full back.

Christ, we want to keep a player who has been shit at League 1 level for over a year, yet get all precious about the prospect of signing a forward (when we only have 1) who has a proven record at this level and was still doing ok in the Championship (not great, but ok).


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: DiV on Monday, August 10, 2009, 10:25:24
look at the goals conceeded on saturday.none of them are due to lack of pace on our part.all of them are due to poor positioning and losing markers.


...but...if they did have the pace they'd at least have half a chance of recovering from the poor positioning and losing markers.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Arriba on Monday, August 10, 2009, 10:56:48
yeah and ifil does that often dv, in fairness to him.

 from the 5 goals conceeded on saturday,only the second might have had a chance of one of our defenders getting to the striker, after both morrison and greer were caught flat footed.

it appears to me they need to work on keeping their line and not losing their players.they have had plenty of chance to sort this in training and the pre season friendlies.
as a defender postioning is far more important than pace.infact our best defenders have not been the quickest imo.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Dazzza on Monday, August 10, 2009, 11:20:24
Robbing Peter to pay Porky?

That’s the impression I get with the timing of the Trundle article in the adver today.  A 32 year old player on 10k a week on a permanent 2 year contract is not going to come cheap unless City really are that desperate to get rid of him that they’ll make up a massive percentage of his wages. I can’t see it happening to the extent where we can justify the shortfall unless Ifil’s wages are going to be used to make up the difference.

I do think he’s worth a punt but a 2 year deal is a commitment for someone of questionable fitness and if I stick my nose in the air I can smell the disturbing faint hit of eau de Curetorn-Thorpe lingering on the horizon.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: alanmayes on Monday, August 10, 2009, 11:44:21
yeah and ifil does that often dv, in fairness to him.

 from the 5 goals conceeded on saturday,only the second might have had a chance of one of our defenders getting to the striker, after both morrison and greer were caught flat footed.

it appears to me they need to work on keeping their line and not losing their players.they have had plenty of chance to sort this in training and the pre season friendlies.
as a defender postioning is far more important than pace.infact our best defenders have not been the quickest imo.

Very good observation,the other thing to add to this was that as a pair they were miles apart,
something that is very basic in the art of defending.As for Lescinel, he was wandering about looking
totally lost (Rabbit in the headlights impression) no concentration or awareness whatsoever.

Shirtliff really needs to get them working as a unit,with anticipation,concentration and communication the keys.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Riddick on Monday, August 10, 2009, 12:51:27
Lescinal the new Casal? Looked alright/pretty good in pre season then in a competitive game go's to bits.

Ifil doesn't have the pace he had anymore in my opinion and i'd rather have a well organised slower defence than one with somebody who continues to make errors on a regular basis that cost goal scoring opportunities. I think his time is up but we shall wait and see i guess.

Lets see how we do defensively over the next 5/6 games before wishing the likes of vincent was back in the team.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: RobertT on Monday, August 10, 2009, 13:33:18
Taylor and Calderwood with Kerslake and Bodin, not much pace with those really.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Arriba on Monday, August 10, 2009, 13:39:22
tim parkin,ross maclaren,jon gittens,tom jones played rightback a fair bit,phil king,none were that quick


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Monday, August 10, 2009, 13:42:48
The strikers they were up against were much slower back then though weren't they? More old fashioned centre-forward types.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Dazzza on Monday, August 10, 2009, 14:02:06
Regardless of Ifil’s pace and ability can we afford to be in the position where we only have three senior fit centre backs available?

Gordon Greer picks himself but it would be foolhardy if we were left with a selection of Lescinal and Morrison.  Lescinal is untried at this level and could easily go either way.  Morrison is making the step-up he still needs to be rested and brought through the season gradually rather than throwing him at the deep end which will ruin his confidence, which will be the case with a few more results like Saturday.

It’s easy to be over-the-top in these situations without knowing what exactly is going on at the club but the timing of this off the back of Saturday couldn’t be any worse and the way things stand we’ll have just as little cover downstairs as a Michael Jackson bedfellow.  I sincerely hope that there is cover on the way if Ifil is shipped out as another loss this week against Dongs and there will be very little pack to shuffle and  I can see us being in for a long hard few weeks.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, August 10, 2009, 14:11:00
tim parkin,ross maclaren,jon gittens,tom jones played rightback a fair bit,phil king,none were that quick

Gittens was quick...he needed to be to cover his mistakes. Saw somewhere, can't think where a young player called Gittens recently, don't know if it's son of.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: MichaelPook on Monday, August 10, 2009, 14:11:06
Wilson states we have cover but I fail to see it myself ....

Morrison and Greer are both lacking pace .. Lescinel isnt particularly good and Hasney is miles away from fitness and also lacks pace

Doesnt suggest we will get a replacement for Jerel .... and that the money would help us get a striker ... we need more than one of those Danny! (and a decent left back .. creative midfielder too would help!)

Squad just paper thin for me


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: tans on Monday, August 10, 2009, 14:19:20
do you want us to sign pook again fatters?


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, August 10, 2009, 14:20:04
Compared to strikers, we've got fuck loads of defenders.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: RobertT on Monday, August 10, 2009, 15:40:09
The strikers they were up against were much slower back then though weren't they? More old fashioned centre-forward types.

Joachim? Gabbiadini? Andrew Cole?


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Spencer_White on Monday, August 10, 2009, 17:13:55
Lescinal the new Casal? Looked alright/pretty good in pre season then in a competitive game go's to bits.


No he does have some talent. I thought Casal looked crap in the friendlies. He was bumbling forward, trying really hard, not getting anywhere.

Lescinel does have a decentish touch. He just didnt have a clue what he was doing saturday.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Posh Red on Monday, August 10, 2009, 18:43:41
Gittens was quick...he needed to be to cover his mistakes. Saw somewhere, can't think where a young player called Gittens recently, don't know if it's son of.

Absolutley right.

He also had the benefit of playing with the best centre-half this club has seen in the last 20 years.



Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: jonny72 on Monday, August 10, 2009, 19:11:36
Lescinel does have a decentish touch. He just didnt have a clue what he was doing saturday.

You can say the same about most of the team on Saturday. Singling any single player out seems pointless, even McNamee looked like a girl at one point, the 5th goal I think.

Greer made me laugh on the highlights, every time they scored he was a good 5-10 yards away from the action and responded by punching the air a few times in frustration, whilst looking like he was going to start crying.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Spencer_White on Monday, August 10, 2009, 19:24:11
Alright, alright. Theres no need to take the piss out of the lads too much.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, August 10, 2009, 21:06:22
According to the Beeb..Aberdeen have put in a bid.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/aberdeen/8194129.stm


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Nemo on Monday, August 10, 2009, 21:07:42
Beeb are quoting the OS here http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10341~1749441,00.html (http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10341~1749441,00.html)


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Monday, August 10, 2009, 21:09:41
So basically he's as good as gone. Good luck Jerel.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, August 10, 2009, 21:11:37
If he does go I wish him all the best.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: RobertT on Monday, August 10, 2009, 21:15:34
If we get a fee for him then I think that is good deal for all concerned.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: jonny72 on Monday, August 10, 2009, 21:16:03
That will be a result for Ifil if it goes through quickly - Celtic at the weekend.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Doore on Monday, August 10, 2009, 21:37:43
I've always liked Jerel and when on form he is a terrific centre half at this level.  There does come a time though when players just need to move on, and it looks to me like Wilson doesn't fancy him much.  This would be a great move for him, I would would join Si in wishng him all the best.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Monday, August 10, 2009, 21:41:52
Also hopefully it will free up wages and a little bit of dosh for a striker.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Monday, August 10, 2009, 21:55:37
I wish him all the beast.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: tans on Monday, August 10, 2009, 21:57:29
Oh no.

Dont do it Jerel, its far too cold up there.

At least he'll be on ESPN once in a while.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Arriba on Monday, August 10, 2009, 22:01:05
Absolutley right.

He also had the benefit of playing with the best centre-half this club has seen in the last 20 years.



he was the quickest of the players i mentioned.nowhere near ifils pace though.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 08:06:07
I've always liked Jerel and when on form he is a terrific centre half at this level.  There does come a time though when players just need to move on, and it looks to me like Wilson doesn't fancy him much.  This would be a great move for him, I would would join Si in wishng him all the best.
Spot on. Sometimes it comes down to a player going as far as he can at a particular club and needing a move to stop them going stale. Which happens in all lines of work, not just football. I think Jerel hit that place before last season and he needs to move to get his mojo back. So for that reason alone, I hope this goes through and I hope it works out for him. He's been a great servant for this club and (let's not forget) put up with all kinds of shit in his time here. Best of luck Jerel


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 08:20:56
I think if there was an obvious replacement for him we'd all say its for the best all round.  Wilson thinks there is, but I'm unconvinced. But Wilson is the expert, not me :)

Good luck Jerel.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 12:27:29
I was reading the Scottish  Sun while up here in Edinburgh and was surprised to read about Jerel.

In todays SS-

Quote
Diamond is one of the club's highest-rated players and is a candidate to replace Severin as skipper. A possible replacement if he does go is Swindon defender Jerel Ifil, who McGhee will snap up on a free if the board can meet his wage demands.

The experienced stopper is just what the Dons boss needs to shore up his leaky defence for Saturday's SPL opener against Celtic.

McGhee is hoping his under pressure directors will back his judgement with cash after missing out on Stephen Hughes, Jim Paterson, Steven MacLean and Reda Johnson.

Now he's desperate to add Ifil, who was outstanding in Sunday's win at Hull.

He has a year left on his Robins contract but boss Danny Wilson will let him leave for free as he has cover.

He bought Scott Cuthbert from Celtic in the summer and will pair him with ex-Kilmarnock defender Gordon Greer.

Wilson said: "Aberdeen have made a formal approach for him and it's up to Jerel to see what can be agreed."

Ifil was one of five trialists against Hull and only ex-Fulham striker Mazin Ahmad has been rejected so far.

French defender Idrissa Alassane, ex-Spurs winger Rohan Ricketts and ex-Hibs midfielder Craig Rocastle will be assessed at Pittodrie this week.

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McGhee said: "I'm optimistic that if we get some of these lads in we will be improved considerably.

"I've been saying for long enough that we needed more players so to have these sort of boys in would be great.

"It's clear Jerel does what we need as he defends well in the box by winning headers and making strong tackles.

"Jerel is also a great talker and defends aggressively."

McGhee seems to really rate him, fair play, good luck on the future Jerel.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 12:29:41
Quote
who McGhee will snap up on a free ..

FFS. Yes yes get him off the wage bill for the greater good, blah, blah blah. I'm in a grumpy Victor Meldrew mood today.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 12:36:09
Jerel must have done a lot of work in the summer - a great talker and can play in goal now too. And we're letting him go! Unbelievable!


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: michael on Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 12:38:53
I personally am happy for Jerel to go.

It is a good move for all concerned, even if it is on a free.

As I have said before he has been a good servant to the club and gone through times where he hasn't been paid, yet has got on with it.

How long has it been since his last red card?

Think it must be Bristol Rovers at home, the day that Sturrock walked out on us.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 12:41:47
Since when has Jerel been a talker ?

Good luck to him, be dissapointed if he leaves on a free though, we should get a nominal fee with a sell on just in case he set's the world alight and moves on to Rangers or Celtic for lot's of money


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 13:30:49
Still the best defender at the club.

Has had plenty of good seasons down the years in both L1 and L2. If we could have used him in the play offs all those years back who knows!

Good Luck Jerel.

On that note, if it really is a case of 1 out before we bring 1 in something has gone seriously wrong in the wage budget!



Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: carbonwhite on Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 13:30:57
haha we wont let him go for a free were want something. we have to pay something to watford aswell as he had a sell on clause in his contract


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 13:55:03
Still the best defender at the club.

Has had plenty of good seasons down the years in both L1 and L2. If we could have used him in the play offs all those years back who knows!

Good Luck Jerel.

On that note, if it really is a case of 1 out before we bring 1 in something has gone seriously wrong in the wage budget!



Greer is a better defender, Morrison has the potential to be a better defender.

We have 5 Central defenders on the books, 6 with Ifil, so it's obvious DW doesn't see him as near the top of the pecking order.

I think that DW would play Greer, Morrison, Cuthbert and possibly LJF in front of him, not that I agree with him, but I reckon that is where DW is coming from.

I personally would have Greer and one of Ifil or Morrison.  Having said that I have not seen Cuthbert or LJF play at CB.

Then again I am not Manager, and still have trust in DW to get it right, I just wish he would hurry up.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: carbonwhite on Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 13:59:03
i think once cuthbert is fully fit him a greer would take up the cb positions then move amankwaah back to the right.

 i dont see why people think we still need a left back we have 4 players that play in that position we need cover for right back as we only have 3 people that can play there


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Bennett on Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 14:04:31
DW was saying we needed a left back, that's why


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: carbonwhite on Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 14:06:33
yeah and still nothing has happened since he said that. i dont think hes going to bring in a left back now. we also need a creative midfielder but he never mentioned me needed 1 of them did he?


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: sonicyouth on Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 14:08:34
we also need a striker, not sure if anyone has mentioned it


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Bennett on Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 14:10:05
yeah and still nothing has happened since he said that. i dont think hes going to bring in a left back now. we also need a creative midfielder but he never mentioned me needed 1 of them did he?

that's not the way he's set his teams out in the past (with an attacking midfielder) so i doubt he'd change now


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: carbonwhite on Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 14:13:08
that's not the way he's set his teams out in the past (with an attacking midfielder) so i doubt he'd change now
im sure he hasnt started a season with only 1 striker but he broke that trend this season


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: michael on Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 14:15:16
As an aside I note that David Noble is yet to sign for anyone.

I feel he could be a valuable addition to the squad.

First we must get some strikers in though as we are short up front.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 14:19:51
im sure he hasnt started a season with only 1 striker but he broke that trend this season

I doubt anybody has ever started a season with 1 striker before, or at least someone you can bung in an emergency...take 95/96...after 2 games both Thorne and The Chief were out injured, but we could still get a goal out of Edwin Murray, who played up front with Steve Finney..


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: carbonwhite on Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 14:19:57
As an aside I note that David Noble is yet to sign for anyone.

I feel he could be a valuable addition to the squad.

First we must get some strikers in though as we are short up front.
yeah i saw that aswell released by shitty. surprised he hasnt got a team yet.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 14:23:54
I doubt anybody has ever started a season with 1 striker before, or at least someone you can bung in an emergency...take 95/96...after 2 games both Thorne and The Chief were out injured, but we could still get a goal out of Edwin Murray, who played up front with Steve Finney..

...now that was a team.



Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: alanmayes on Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 14:29:09
As an aside I note that David Noble is yet to sign for anyone.

I feel he could be a valuable addition to the squad.


Noble picked up a knee ligament injury whilst training/on trial at Yeovil early last month.
As a free agent,if he can get himself fit again,he can be signed after the window closes.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Bennett on Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 14:33:07
im sure he hasnt started a season with only 1 striker but he broke that trend this season
good comeback


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: carbonwhite on Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 14:40:08
good comeback
:D


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: girlyred on Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 18:34:23
Good luck Jerel...................i think the trouncing we got on Saturday has made us realise that the inormally unflapable Gordon Greer is human after all and he and the defence can be terrible, Jerel knows he is low in the CB pecking order and wants 1st team football and who can blame him........Sean Morrison 18 years old has been awesome but very young lets not forget that and i hope he doesnt read these forums how easily some fans turn on their own, i heard he turned down a chance to go to Everton to stay at Swindon will he be now repayed by us tearing him to peices on here...............


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: STFC_Gazza on Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 19:24:54
Cheers Jez!


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: reeves4england on Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 19:26:28
Good luck Jerel...................i think the trouncing we got on Saturday has made us realise that the inormally unflapable Gordon Greer is human after all and he and the defence can be terrible, Jerel knows he is low in the CB pecking order and wants 1st team football and who can blame him........Sean Morrison 18 years old has been awesome but very young lets not forget that and i hope he doesnt read these forums how easily some fans turn on their own, i heard he turned down a chance to go to Everton to stay at Swindon will he be now repayed by us tearing him to peices on here...............
Good post

I definitely wouldn't blame Ifil for leaving, and as for Morrison, people seem to forget just how young he still is. With him and Macklin there's two great prospects for the future.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 22:08:34
Two year contract (according to reports).......all the best Jerel.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Doore on Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 22:11:19
I think Aberdeen and Jerel may both do well out of this deal, I've always thought he had more in his game than he often showed us.  When he was on form he was terrific, if he gets the Emile Heskey arm around the shoulder management stuff he could do well in the SPL.  I wish him luck.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 22:12:42
i think he's had his best game for them already


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 22:14:28
What's your user name on this is arriba?  :)


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 22:16:49
What's your user name on this is arriba?  :)

stfc romain


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: tans on Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 22:21:32
stfc romain

Nah, Crezzy or Paul Skinbakk surely!


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 22:22:19
Robinonfire?


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 22:23:33
it's been so long since i've looked on there i dont even know who posts on thisis.
why you ask peasant?


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 22:28:26
I think it's because of your positive outlook  :rain:


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 22:40:00
it was tongue in cheek dumb fuck.
seriously though,they do seem to be bigging him up a bit much after a meaningless testimonial.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 22:46:05
Do you want 4d stabbed arriba?


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 22:48:52
that wont be necessary.i'll just bottle him outside the townend on saturday


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 22:51:14
Good lad


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 22:56:05
I don't wish to be a harsher critic than I already have been but I agree with arriba, Ifil's had the odd brilliant game for us but has followed it with his usual Ifilness. I can't help but feel Aberdeen will soon find this out.

He's marked the likes of Knight and Lita out of games so he is capable, he is just very susceptible to the mistakes we're all familiar with. If he's really upped his game then good luck to him and we will definitely think what might have been.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: @MacPhlea on Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 09:13:37
transferred confirmed...

http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10341~1751780,00.html


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 09:15:59
No word on a fee though.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 09:19:57
Free


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Rich Pullen on Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 09:21:40
Is this similar to how we got O'Brien?


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Chubbs on Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 09:22:18
good luck to the lad, wish him all the best.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 09:23:00
Dunno, Wilson seemed to suggest we paid for O'Brien, the Aberdeen media seem to suggest we terminated the contract yesterday.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 09:25:44
 The end of an era....the last Kingy signing  :cry:


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Chubbs on Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 09:26:42
just out of curiosity and in no way racist, do many black players play in the scottish leagues?


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 09:27:41
Racist


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: @MacPhlea on Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 09:28:41
just out of curiosity and in no way racist, do many black players play in the scottish leagues?

That is totally racist - how very dare you talk about the Scots is such a way... I'm totally offended by your anti jock comments


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Chubbs on Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 09:52:55
That is totally racist - how very dare you talk about the Scots is such a way... I'm totally offended by your anti jock comments
well i guess to be honest, blacks have it pretty bad anyway, they'd be better off going home than going to scotland.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 09:56:06
It's so cold in Scotland that black people turn into white people if they stay long enough. Ifil will be sporting some ginger corn rows before too long.

It's a plausible theory to Wes Brown anyway.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: stfctownenda on Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 10:32:57
just out of curiosity and in no way racist, do many black players play in the scottish leagues?

In the Aberdeen team alone there are 3 or 4 already.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 10:35:35
Marc Antoine Fortune is very black indeed.

[url width=200 height=256]http://www.4thegame.com/media/00/04/82/marc_antoine_fortune.jpg[/url]


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: The Artist Billy Paynter on Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 10:44:50
good luck to the fella. :toocool:


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 10:48:36
Hearts have the legends do do do do Larry Kingston and do do do do Christian Nade who are both black, can't think of any others at the moment.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Chubbs on Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 10:50:49
ye i guess so, bobo balde is pretty black.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Summerof69 on Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 11:11:26
I'd like to wish Jerel all the best.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: stfctownenda on Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 11:20:53
Aberdeen have only got Aluko now I think.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: leefer on Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 11:26:40
I don't wish to be a harsher critic than I already have been but I agree with arriba, Ifil's had the odd brilliant game for us but has followed it with his usual Ifilness. I can't help but feel Aberdeen will soon find this out.

He's marked the likes of Knight and Lita out of games so he is capable, he is just very susceptible to the mistakes we're all familiar with. If he's really upped his game then good luck to him and we will definitely think what might have been.

My thaughts as well....good luck to him.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 11:40:04
Rangers have Edu, Beasley and Darcheville if he is still there.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 11:44:20
Forgot Ian Black at my beloved Hearts!


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Power to people on Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 12:31:15
Good luck to the lad, I hope it works out for him


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 13:51:22
The end of an era....the last Kingy signing  :cry:

Does that now leave Lee Peacock as our longest serving player with Phil Smith next. Signed by Iffy and Wise?

Dissapointed we dont even get to give him a decent send off. He's been good for us over the last 6 years.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Arriba on Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 13:58:13
maybe you could send him a card


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 14:07:20
maybe you could send him a card

Red...


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 22:29:52
that wont be necessary.i'll just bottle him outside the townend on saturday

 :-X


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Arriba on Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 22:41:02
shut up you cunt


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: STFC_Gazza on Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 22:42:25
Clearly Ifil off the wage bill = money freed to bring in Trundle now???


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 23:33:03
Or someone else. Wilson said it would go towards a striker. Don't get too excited Gaz.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: STFC_Gazza on Thursday, August 13, 2009, 07:14:13
Ifil what a class act :) clearly hated Malpas

“There were times when it was tough, and I’d like to say a big thank you to the Swindon fans,” he said.
“They showed me a lot of support, especially when (Maurice) Malpas was dropping me unfairly. They seemed to be the only people that could see it was unfair.

“There were match days when I was a sub and they were cheering really loudly when I was warming up. It’s never forgotten.”


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, August 13, 2009, 07:30:44
Ifil what a class act :) clearly hated Malpas

“There were times when it was tough, and I’d like to say a big thank you to the Swindon fans,” he said.
“They showed me a lot of support, especially when (Maurice) Malpas was dropping me unfairly. They seemed to be the only people that could see it was unfair.

“There were match days when I was a sub and they were cheering really loudly when I was warming up. It’s never forgotten.”


Won't he be playing Cally Thistle this season with Malpas & Butcher at the helm  - maybe he can let Malpas know what he really thinks of thim


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: stfctownenda on Thursday, August 13, 2009, 07:53:02
Won't he be playing Cally Thistle this season with Malpas & Butcher at the helm  - maybe he can let Malpas know what he really thinks of thim


Not unless its in the cup as Caley got relegated last year.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: mexico red on Thursday, August 13, 2009, 09:42:04
good luck jerel wish you all the best, glad youre gone though you were a bloody liability the last 2 years, could you please do some major cock ups against celtic saturday, thank you very much.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: 4D on Thursday, August 13, 2009, 21:22:10
Best of Luck Jerel, hope you have a tremendous game on Saturday  :thumb:


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Rich Pullen on Thursday, August 13, 2009, 21:23:29
I can't believe the amount of national coverage this transfer has received. Slow news week.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: adje on Friday, August 14, 2009, 12:46:08
I understand why Jerel will leave just think the timing is fucked up.Jerel will always get my respect and tbf the cuntish comments towards him are bang out of order.

Always gives it everything and deserves more respect than some give him.


I totally fucking agree with that


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Summerof69 on Friday, August 14, 2009, 13:08:45
Just noticed that the Aberdeen v Celtic game is live on SS3 tomorrow.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: tans on Friday, August 14, 2009, 13:11:25
ooh sky+ that then


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Barry Scott on Friday, August 14, 2009, 14:21:07
Jerel was at times a hero and at others frustrating. To say he had one good game a season is laughable and i'm sorry to see him go. Met him once and came across as a genuinely nice bloke. He even seemed embarrased when i congratulated him on the way he played that day. I love Jerel.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: pauld on Saturday, August 15, 2009, 12:33:28
*bump* Got his debut against Celtic today, in some ways not a great game to make your debut in. 3-0 down and not even half time yet. Chin up, Jerel, it'll be a different matter when you're marking Danny Invincible out of the game


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Saturday, August 15, 2009, 12:58:06
*bump* Got his debut against Celtic today, in some ways not a great game to make your debut in. 3-0 down and not even half time yet. Chin up, Jerel, it'll be a different matter when you're marking Danny Invincible out of the game
He's done ok today in fairness, he's looked pretty solid and has certainly not been at fault for any of the goals.


Title: Re: Ifil on trial with Aberdeen today
Post by: Arriba on Saturday, August 15, 2009, 19:43:02
he as all over the place,without looking shite.aberdeen look a poor side to me