Coronavirus

[Batch]

Of limitied interest I'd imagine, but the source is available  here:

https://github.com/nhsx

[Simon Pieman]

If the app tells you to self isolate, then it's a voluntary decision on your part to do so. So another contradiction to other rules.

[horlock07]

So can I shut the app down entirely on my phone and it will still work if Bluetooth is on, only asking as having it running and scanning constantly is going to kill my battery in about 2 hours.

[Abrahammer]

Same as, don’t have Bluetooth on as kills my battery so the App is pointless for me

[horlock07]

Same as, don’t have Bluetooth on as kills my battery so the App is pointless for me

I tend to have Bluetooth on constantly and can live with that, its the fact that the app seemed to be continuously doing something when open even in the background which seemed to be battery heavy, but we shall see.

[Nijholts Nuts]

Unless you just activate the app when you're in a public place e.g. the supermarket / workplace.

[tans]

Same as, don’t have Bluetooth on as kills my battery so the App is pointless for me

Yep, i have just upgraded to IOS14 and that has killed my battery alone

[pauld]

Unless you just activate the app when you're in a public place e.g. the supermarket / workplace.

Don't think that would work, it's too much faff and people would forget most of the time, rendering it pointless. There's quite a good piece in Wired about it, goes into some good detail about the privacy protection/anonymisation stuff, but annoyingly doesn't seem to mention whether it runs in the background all the time

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/nhs-covid-19-tracking-app-contact-tracing

[horlock07]

Fuck sake, there are some very IT savvy people on here (I am not remotely including myself in this group) and even we don't know the answers, how the fuck is 75 year old Doris going to get it!

[Private Fraser]

This article: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-54250736

contains this bit of info:

"Will the app drain the battery and data allowance?

The developers suggest the app should account for less than 5% of a device's battery use.
But if the phone is set to use a low-power mode, owners should go into their settings to exclude the app so it can continue contact tracing at all times.

And while the app is continually checking for updated data, the major networks have said they will not deduct usage from people's allowances."

I guess time will tell....

[pauld]

Fuck sake, there are some very IT savvy people on here (I am not remotely including myself in this group) and even we don't know the answers, how the fuck is 75 year old Doris going to get it!

TBF, I'm not sure 75 year old Doris is going to be particularly interested in some of this stuff, she will just download it and leave it running. And hopefully it will notify her if she has been in contact with anyone who's tested +ve

[Nemo]

Latest from Sunak being announced now. Could be make or break for a lot of jobs (probably including my own) so fingers crossed this goes well.

£12bn already spent on track and trace is a pretty scary number.

People will have to work a third of normal hours. They will be paid as normal for those hours. And the government and employers will cover pay lost for the other two thirds. Applies to small and medium sized enterprises. Larger employers will only be covered if their turnover has gone down.

Back on furlough it is then, it seems.

[pauld]

People will have to work a third of normal hours. They will be paid as normal for those hours. And the government and employers will cover pay lost for the other two thirds. Applies to small and medium sized enterprises. Larger employers will only be covered if their turnover has gone down.

Good to know there is further protection for jobs. What about people who can't work 1/3 of their normal hours? (e.g. for people who work in places that have just been shut down or don't have enough work even for 1/3).

[horlock07]

New balls up a brewing

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-54278053

[Nemo]

Good to know there is further protection for jobs. What about people who can't work 1/3 of their normal hours? (e.g. for people who work in places that have just been shut down or don't have enough work even for 1/3).

No, not that I can see.

This scheme is probably useful for companies running at reduced capacity/demand, but that's a fairly specific sub-group of affected companies. Will no doubt help many (probably including me) but not all and certainly less than furlough (whilst costing a lot less - total govt. contribution is more like 20% rather than 80%).

Feels like they're trying to stagger and reduce job losses rather than prevent them all together with this sort of intervention. Will be too little for many.