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Why is our best centre half yet again not even on the bench.

This is a total joke- yes he makes errors but if he didnt he would be playing in the prem. He is better than Aljofree by a country mile.

Looks like he is going in Jan- very bad news. Would imagine another of Malpas shite signings will be the replacement, ala Amankwaah, Nalis and Casal who he wants out on loan.

 

Perhaps because he's not our best centre half? He's been shit when he has played this season

Not even full-time.

Please Bart, at least wait until the final score before you go off on one for goodness sake.

:D

And Aljofree hasnt??

He needs the correct management- which he has not been getting. He was performing fine ala Sturrock/Wise.

Why has he been left out for so many weeks- are you telling me that he is worse than Aljofree/Kanyuka?

I know his family were abused (inexcusable) but that is just part o fthe reason.

Out of Aljofree/Kanyuka HE IS THE BEST BY FAR

He was fine performing under sturrock and wise because he had williams playing beside him, and the whole team was confident. Ifil is a player that will do well in a confident team, but as soon as morale drops his head hits the floor.

If Ifil was playing you'd be moaning about him being rubbish.

Out of preformances this season, aljofree has been MUCH MUCH BETTER THAN IFIL

I personally think he found his level in League Two - that's where he was more consistant.

Discuss.

He was consistant last season.

Ifil is one his day our best defender. I dont disagree with what Bart says but we all know Bart is saying it for the sake of it.

If Ifil was playing and playing poorly you know full well Bart would have posted a thread asking why he hasnt been dropped and sold.

Oi Ben

where did my post go ?

What post? ;)

I think that for all we know, Ifil might be the bad guy in this? Heaven forbid.

Ifil is okay and he is the best of a bad bunch but until JCP tells us whats going on, we just don't know!

ask Ralphy, probably next door or something.

weren't me mate. unless I did it by accident. sorry. Post it again.

Fucking ace Dan. Who ever said you never had a sense of humour.

 :clap:

No drama

It was about Big Jerel

Posted it in MDT and thought I had posted it here

No ever said I didnt have sense of humour, im hillarious!

Taking it as read that I really really hope Jerel stays, I can't help wondering whether his total absence from the squad might not be down to him being frozen out so much as the other way round. ie Maybe Jerel's refusing to play/go on bench? Not likely, I appreciate, but otherwise it makes no sense at all. He hasn't been great this season (I'm with DV on the "does not play well in team low on confidence" thing) but it makes no sense whatever for him to not even feature on the bench unless there's some other reason behind it. Maybe it is down to his family being abused - his family are very important to him, far more than football, and maybe that sorry incident was the final straw? (He says, clutching at one).

I really hope its not a case where Ifil doesnt want to play for us anymore.

If thats the case I wish he'd just come out and say it. If he wants to leave because of the abuse then I understand but wouldnt be happy from a personal point of view.

Still give him a good send off though.

I can't help agreeing a bit with Bart abit, Ifil should be involved more at least.

from what ive been told hes literally been frozen out ala Pook earlier in season -- if defeats continue  then he will probably get his chance when Malpas changes his mind .. AGAIN ... unless he goes in January and there WILL be takers ...

IMO should have been playing tonight

Who's Imo? Japanese youth team import?

One of those weird yoofs with a funny haircut and strange music tastes.

We need Ifil back. Kanyuka was shit tonight and totally at fault for their second goal.

You have a short memory gazza we were just as bad with him in the team. Not my words by the way malpas said that tonite. On the plus side aljofree will be back saturday to add some pace at the back

Not short memory at all. I would rather have Ifil than Kanyuka.

Try telling that to Mr Malpas...

The bigger picture here is that our 4 centre backs have all been performing at various levels of shitness all season.  I'll excuse Morrison a bit because of his age but he's still had a few poor games.

People can moan all they like about putting Ifill in the team, but we were just as shit at the back when he played. Yes he can be good when in form , but he's not so he'd probably just cost us goals with daft errors. we've all seen him produce plenty of those.

The question we should be asking is why are players who were decent last season , and in some cases the season before playing so shit this season?

I'd say it's pretty hard to judge what kind of form Ifil is in considering he hasn't played for several weeks now! Okay he had a shocking start to the season but we know what he's capable of, and from what I've seen and heard he'd be no worse than Kanyuka and quite possibly better if he could find some form

Yes. We know what Ifil is capable of. Normally being either really good or really shit.

Have to agree with CT that Ifil's been at fault as much as any of the back four (well perhaps not as much as any, but still had plenty of ropey games this season) but still can't understand how he doesn't merit a place on the bench even? At least gives us options during a game? The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced (a bit) there's something more going on there

Think its classic that some people are making Ifil out to be the messiah we are missing in the team at the moment, I have always been a big Ifil fan but I know many of the fan base do not share the view that he is a great player.  Just seems its another thing for the Malpas out brigade to jump on, I am sure if we trawled through threads on here there would be one where Bart says Ifil is not a good player and wonders why we keep picking him.

It's not that. I don't think he deserves to start on recent form. But he is not the only one at the back who has been poor. But they all seem to have had chances to redeem themselves. So the question is, why is Ifil being treated as if he is our worst defender.

If you believe that Ifil IS our worst defender then fair enough.

They have all had spells out tho, Kanyuka practically disappeared before returning for these last 2 games, Aljofree had his mystery illness spell out, Morrison has been an ever present although could of done with more of a rest.  I would not be surprised to see Ifil involved in the squad Saturday whether it be in the 11 or on the bench. 

Ifils been here a long time. We all know what he can do. Is he the messiah, no of course not. Is he still the best defender we've got. I'd say so...


I agree with that bit!

A deal for Ifil has been done and he's off in January, that's why he isn't being played.

Heinz?

OK JPC, whatever.

ifil has been really shit this season,but he is not alone. and the way he has been frozen out is not on.

Its been a disgraceful way to treat our most loyal player.

We offered him a new deal on less than what Morrison is on.

Indeed - reply to spencers post

The way that MM practically buttsfucks that useless cunt Aljofree gets on my tits too.

I might email the club and try and find out whats going on  :D

:)

Maybe he'll end up as a bright young prospect at Newcastle.

What was the last game Ifil played in ?

3-1 defeat to huddersfield

Pin the tail on the Malpas

I also heard this from someone but didn't really believe it, even though the person who told me was adament it was true, he stated he'd been in talks with Charlton, which sounded very strange to me aswell.  Have to wait and see i suppose but I'll be very unhappy if he does go.

Thinking about it I don't think Malpas has seen anywhere near the best of Ifill, for me he was the best player during div 2 and for the 1st 6 months season year. 

Spot on.

He barely looked like a footballer that game.

how exactly is Malpas butt fucking Aljofree, by playing him?

How dare he pick players. Aljofree is still one of our 2 best centre halves so its hardly Malpas having favourites if he picks him.

Sturrock picked him every week!?

I know we've done the debate millions of times about Aljofree, he commitment, his comments him being captain but when it comes down to it he's a better defender than Kanyuka and Morrison.

Aljofree should definitely be selected when fit.  I agree with DV.  Aljofree Morrison would be my first choice centre half pairing at this time.

Amazes how people keep skimming over why are defence is like this. Aljofree is shit he has no pace never won a header last game i watched and was in the left back most the game .

Can someone please explain what he does that is good????

I think with our defence this season, it's more a case of "less bad" than good.

Would you rather Kanyuka played?

No as the thread is titled Ifil hazard a guess at who i would rather play.

The strange thing is at the beggining of the season we could not decide who was best in defence, due to them all playing well in pre-season, had a job to pick the worse two to leave out,  suddenly we had 4 good centre defenders.  Now its the complete oppersite which ones the least shit to leave in.  They have all made well above there expected number of mistakes which has cost us a lot of goals.

 Same with the goalies come to think of it.

I expect he's jumping for joy this morning.
Lets hope he's included tomorrow.

When was the last time he played a game? Even a reserve game? Be very surprised if he is in the team tomorrow.

well said imo

Nobody ask for your opinion, lippy.

shut it shinyhead

im a black corner flag dancer, not some gay big lipped cunt now anyway

You'll always be a big lipped cunt to me.

bastard...

hopefully he will now be restored to the side!

Only if he deserves his place back in the side.  He was hardly playing like John Terry when he was dropped was he?  It'll take a while for him to get match sharp and get his confidence back up, before he can get recalled.

hopefully the new boss will se what ifil does bloody well.and will then sign a centre back to compliment him.

Yeah but Jan can you honestly say that Aljofree has been playing better than Jerel?? Or Kanyuka??

To be fair only Morrison has deserved his spot at the back ..for one so young he has done fantastically well

Yes, he has....

He hasnt been great but hes been ok, where as Kanyuka has been shite and Ifil has been his worse but again as its been said we all know what Jerel is capable of. On his day he is the best defender at the club.

Certainly in the early part of last seaosn alot of other teams picked him out as our stand out player.

As Steve as said Saturday might be a bit too soon consider he hasnt played in god knows how long and the fact that the latest reserve game got cancelled.

I love nothing more to see him have a fucking stormer on Saturday though.

aljofree has been the pick and thats with performances of average at best.shows where our defence are at the moment

The other defenders have been shit as they are too busy clearing up aljofree's fucking mistakes

Will be interesting if Byrne plays Ifil Tomorrow. If he does, it will show that maybe there was a disagreement between Dave 'n Maurice over the Ifil saga.

As others have said, I'd have thought it unlikely Ifil will start as he presumably isn't match fit, either mentally or physically. But yes the bench could make interesting and significant viewing

I hope Ifil can recover from this, I hope he's not lost any affection he may of had playing for this club. He's been at Swindon a good while now and it would be a shame to lose him under such circumstances.

Funny thing is, in the first half against Oldham it was exactly the opposite.
There were at least four occasions where Aljofree was covering up for Morrison's mistakes.
It was largely overlooked because Morrison scored and we went on to win the game.

The problem is that when Aljofree makes a mistake (which to be farr does happen all too often) there isn't anyone there to bail him out.

Vincent normally does that role but as he has been out I think Aljofree has been found out to be what he is.

Whats happening with Vincent? When's he going to be fit?

2012

Just in time for Team GB football at London 2012 then? ;)

great to see ifil warming up on the touchline,get him back in saturday or lambert will run riot,

BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAST..Lamberts a fag anyway!


On a serious note though he was making some bad mistakes before being dropped...he was shocking v Leeds,but a full on Ifill is a good player and would be good to see him back.