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Fifa agrees goal-line technology

HOW IT WORKS
Computer chip embedded in ball
Pitchside sensors track movement
Decision relayed to ref by buzzer
Fifa is expected to use a football containing a microchip as part of new goal-line technology in September's Under-20 World championships in Peru.

The game's governing body has agreed to the experiment in a bid to end controversies over goal-line decisions.

It follows a presentation by sports manufacturer Adidas to the International FA board in Cardiff.

The company tested the device in a game between Nuremberg and their reserve team ahead of the board's meeting.

A football has a microchip inside, so when it crosses the goal-line the referee is alerted directly by a bleeper-type system rather than any video replays being used.

The fact that there is no delay to the game has impressed the Ifab, which is made up of four Fifa representatives plus a member of each of the four home associations.

The English Football Association had offered to experiment with the ball as well but both the Premier League and Football League use balls made by rival manufacturers.

Adidas is developing the new ball with two other German-based companies Cairos Technologies and hi-tech communications firm Fraunhofer, but believe that such rigorous experimentation is needed that it is unlikely to be ready for next year's World Cup final in Germany.

Calls for new technology resurfaced after Spurs were denied a clear goal at Manchester United when goalkeeper Roy Carroll dropped the ball behind the line, but the incident was missed by the officials.


link to story:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/4300669.stm

Read about that in the paper. I think it could work, but then you have the problem of this signal going off every time the ball goes into the goal e.g. after the ref has given a free kick which may confuse referees (we all know how stupid they can be!)

And what would they do if it stopped working?!

After digging through the archives of the TEF, I thought this was the most relevant thread.

Following on from last weekends debate on the goal that wasn't given to QPR, where do you sit with goal line technology and why?

I'm dead against it for the simple reason of it causes debate and creates talking points. I appreciate any technology that gets implimented has to 100% but where do you draw the line in terms of how far down the football pyramid that you apply it?

Do we go as far as grass roots or just stay in the professional game?

For me the professional game needs it

QPR could literally be looking at relegation after that decision (I know it is extreme) but had they gone 1-0 up the game would have been different.

Had they then gone on to win the game they would now be in 16th place outside the relegation zone

It seems too important to let some fat bloke running the line get it so wrong !

No place for it with me. You win some, you lose some, besides it gives everyone something to talk about

I used to be against it but I see no reason why a trial of something like Hawkeye couldn't be done (actually it may be). Provided it is only used for goal/not goal decisions which to be honest are not so common.

My worry is that it will progress to having video analysis of fouls/offsides/throw ins, etc. This would in my opinion slow the game too much. That said FIFA are so decrepit that this is unlikely to happen.

As usual the PL teams only seem to start bleating if there's a slight chance it could cost them some cash

How would they know it had stopped working ?

Brings a new meaning to 'a delicate chip'

Why did Mark Hughes not bang on about their goal being incorrectly given? Cisse was well offside yet Hughes completely over looked that goal, to concentrate on the 'non goal'.

And I don't buy the whole, if QPR scored first it would have changed the match entirely. Like no one ever goes 1-0 and eventually loses.

I thought Hughes was actually very fair on it.  I presume you didnt see the coverage I did where he was berating the officials and saying and he got our goal wrong as well as that was off side. 

Dont like the fella (remembering him pushing some people in the southside in the face in our prem season) but he did seem refreshingly honest to mention their offside goal in the interview I heard.

If the cost is anything like for Hawkeye the only people who could afford it are the Premiership clubs.

Hardly "The People's Game", is it? One of the great things about football is the talking points and human errors, I don't want a sanitised, airbrushed version thanks. It's already becoming a non-contact sport, in plastic grounds, where spectators are forced to sit and other fans tut tut if you stand or show any emotion.

FIFA, The FA, SKY, multimillionaire foreign investors, overpaid whinging players, people who come to games demanding entertainment, all of you can fuck right off.

 Sorry, I know I veered off the topic a bit, but fuck it.

Nice, you put it better than I ever could hertha

For fuck sake Herthab, there's always going to be plenty of 'talking point's' every week.

All we're talking about here are blatantly, perfectly good goals being chalked off because of the utter numbskullery of the officials. That's hardly 'airbrushing' or 'sanitising' is it? We want to see goals - they're pretty hard to come by and when a perfectly good one is scored you want to see it given.

As I said, there are always going to be plenty of human errors for us to talk about but all we're talking about in this instance is the ball crossing the line. That is the absolute focal point of the game of football and the one thing that should not be left to chance.

I understand that this sort of technology won't go very far down the 'pyramid' but that's life. The rest will just have to make do with ref's and linesmen. But to not have it at the top level in club football and in international competitions is a joke.

You can't have this sort of nonsense going on in a top international competition. England were shit in this game and deserved to get thrashed, but that's not the point...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2C7ZMahWOg

Where do you draw the line in terms of who does and doesn't get to use the technology?
If a prem club plays a non league club away in the cup, will the competition rules insist it be used or as its non league will they not have the tech. Vise versa do you just turn it off if playing in competitions that don't want it and risk a debate over a goal?

It will be similar to the all seater stadiums thing.  Something like it must be there for Premiership and Championship teams, with extra FA fundings going to lower league teams if they go up.

I have no idea what the costs are but you just take it as far down as costs will allow. It's got to be better than not having it at all.

You can implement it at grass roots level as the cost will be too prohibitive. This was for years, the argument that FIFA was using against goal line technology, however most grass roots games are played without linesmen, and sometimes, even a proper referee!

fuck it, poor decisions are part of the game - after all its played by humans not rebots
Leave it as it is

Yeah, let's have perfectly good goals not given...way to go :clap:

Hes still thinking of the 2010 world cup no doubt ;)

Must admit I agree especially as it's mostly PL clubs whinging about possible loss of revenue, greedy fookers, but a bit of an update here

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17874013

What if a shocking decision like the world cup one denies us a promotion?

"Oh the standard of officials is shocking, how can you miss something like that? Nevermind though eh, it's given us something to talk about."

Doubt very much if it will apply to us, elitist only

So we're not planning on becoming a Championship club then?

You really think it will get that far down?

Personally I think they're hilarious in the Premier League.
Leave it.

Word Cup would be a different matter, because in the EPL, as many say, your luck balances out over the course of a season. In a tournament like the World Cup or like a play-off final, that doesn't really apply.. So I'm not sure what to choose really.
I wouldn't really like to see too much technology used in football though. I don't know why.

Exactly, they're only worried about their pockets. Fuck em

And who cares about the national side? Not many anymore. Fuck em