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Title: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: NZrobin on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 20:43:22
What the fucks going on.....

Supposed new owners...?

Matt Richie sold to a team competing for potential promotion.

My real big worry NOW is PDC.

Should he now walk..

Fuck is this happening or just a nightmare ?

 :cry: :badmood: 

 


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: Señor on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 20:45:16
Di Canio deserves a better club, not this fucking joke we call Swindon Town


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: donkey on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 20:45:59
What the fucks going on.....

Supposed new owners...?

Matt Richie sold to a team competing for potential promotion.

My real big worry NOW is PDC.

Should he now walk..

Fuck is this happening or just a nightmare ?

 :cry: :badmood:  

  

It's all happening, Reg was right (again).  He may be a darksider, but he's right...room on the darkside for me Reg?


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: Sharpe on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 20:46:19
It's a nightmare just go back to sleep.  :zzz:


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: Freddies Ferret on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 20:46:27
Di Canio deserves a better club, not this fucking joke we call Swindon Town
calm down you fucking loon


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 20:52:17
Sam Morshead ‏@SamMorshead_SA
Not sure the new owners are entirely to "blame" on this one. Going to have to wait for details to emerge


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: donkey on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 20:53:27
Sam Morshead ‏@SamMorshead_SA
Not sure the new owners are entirely to "blame" on this one. Going to have to wait for details to emerge

Actions speak louder than words.


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: NZrobin on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 20:54:27
I can't understand why Black, Fitton and Wray after all their good work have just thrown this all away ?

And basically lost millions of pounds in the mean time.

Please advise cos I simply can't understand any of it.

Reports were that Wray has been to the club every home match...Fitton claims to still have an interest in the clubs future..

Are they behind this take over ?

Fucking hell...this is a nightmare  :doh:  


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 20:55:55
The silence has been deafening... News coming out quickly until about 2.00pm then nothing at all... Plain weird!

Also Wray Fitton et al been strangely quiet, they have been rent a quote over last couple of weeks?


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 20:56:41
On the plus side, probably staves off administration.


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: Barry Scott on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 20:59:07
Not sure why, but I'm calm and pretty indifferent truth be told. Perhaps even kind of amused in a weird way. Time to watch Hardcore Pawn now. 


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: Bewster on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 20:59:27
Sam Morshead ‏@SamMorshead_SA
Not sure the new owners are entirely to "blame" on this one. Going to have to wait for details to emerge

How can they be ? Sounds like the club needed cash urgently so sold. Can't expect prospective new owners to pump money into somehting they don't own.


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 21:00:57
I can't understand why Black, Fitton and Wray after all their good work have just thrown this all away ?

And basically lost millions of pounds in the mean time.

Please advise cos I simply can't understand any of it.

Reports were that Wray has been to the club every home match...Fitton claims to still have an interest in the clubs future..

Are they behind this take over ?

Fucking hell...this is a nightmare  :doh:  

Fitton and Wray do not have the money, never have.  Arbib bailes us out originally.  Black is the sole funder of the clubs losses, he's had enough, he's not even a football fan let alone of us so has no real emotional need to carry on once he's hit the max he was willing to go to.


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: newmarket red on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 21:01:21
 :(Doesnt it just make you want to rip your season ticket up, although i want i bloody feel like it tonight.


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 21:01:24
The only feasible option is that Ritchie was sold to pay the bills with the takeover taking longer than expected.

Unless they have decided to cash in on any saleable assetts.


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 21:01:58
How can they be ? Sounds like the club needed cash urgently so sold. Can't expect prospective new owners to pump money into somehting they don't own.

In the longer term though by not pre investing if you will, the only people to lose out will be them as the asset they are buying is now much worse off than it was 2 hours ago


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: Samdy Gray on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 21:02:25
:(Doesnt it just make you want to rip your season ticket up, although i want i bloody feel like it tonight.

Bit hard, considering it's plastic.


Title: Re: Re: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: herthab on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 21:02:29
Not sure why, but I'm calm and pretty indifferent truth be told. Perhaps even kind of amused in a weird way. Time to watch Hardcore Pawn now.
Kind of sums up my mood. Without the pawn.....


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: corner on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 21:03:29
@wes_foderingham: Everyone is on the sofa for the day tomorrow 👍. Expecting something big from city! #DeadlineDay

They all got the day off to, what does that mean?


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 21:04:55
Would you pay the owner of a car you liked to get the work done before you purchased it from them?  Like fuck would you, maybe knock something off the asking price, but in this case there was nothing to knock off from.  I think Black probably reckons writing off £10m ish is more than generous.   The guy fronting the deal has had his hands burnt in a deak before with Luton didn't he?  Doubt the money men would be confident in chucking a few hundred thousand quid on something that wasn't theirs.


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: lambourn red on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 21:05:13
Nothing has come out of the club officially for all we know the deal is off and we are fucked


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: Barry Scott on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 21:06:18
Nothing has come out of the club officially for all we know the deal is on and we are the richest club on the planet

Floats both ways.


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: NZrobin on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 21:06:44
Accepted...Black wanted out...and obviously quickly.

And we all know a good deal is a quick deal..

But surely, a fire sale is no good for anyone and especially with highly strung people like Di Canio and his players.

Fuck...this is very worrying and could ruin the last 18 months



Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 21:08:33
In the longer term though by not pre investing if you will, the only people to lose out will be them as the asset they are buying is now much worse off than it was 2 hours ago
Quite so. And in the short term, it's a terrible start to a new reign. Mr McCrory had better be quite some talker, and he'd better have some serious backers.

Sorry but right now this whole deal fucking stinks, just does not add up. Reminds me of Jim Little and BEST. I'm desperate to be wrong about that


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: skin_im_buzzer on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 21:11:32
Lets keep calm, people. This is how I see it:

1) club will probably only confirm the deal officially once the FL has approved the takeover

2) perspective owners want a debt free club

3) AB et all prepared to take a £10mil hit

4) as debt is some £13mil, there's a shortfall...made up by quick player sales


Short term pain for long term gain.


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 21:13:15
Would you pay the owner of a car you liked to get the work done before you purchased it from them?  Like fuck would you, maybe knock something off the asking price, but in this case there was nothing to knock off from.  I think Black probably reckons writing off £10m ish is more than generous.   The guy fronting the deal has had his hands burnt in a deak before with Luton didn't he?  Doubt the money men would be confident in chucking a few hundred thousand quid on something that wasn't theirs.

If I thought the car could win me the F1 drivers championship then I'd certainly entertain the idea...


Title: Re: Re: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: Notts red on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 21:13:32
Kind of sums up my mood. Without the pawn.....
This for me too, felt like a kick in the bollocks half hour ago but what will be will be. Could be worse to come yet but as long as I've got a club to support ill carry on like always.


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: newmarket red on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 21:13:56
 
Bit hard, considering it's plastic.
Ill use scissors. :crash:


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: NZrobin on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 21:15:56
I really hope I am wrong.

However Its my opinion that this is just a fire sale...

The good thing about Fitton and co they were seemingly honest business men.

This deal reminds me of a back street second hand car sale...

Only thing missing is Dell boy.


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: joteddyred on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 21:18:39
The only feasible option is that Ritchie was sold to pay the bills with the takeover taking longer than expected.

Unless they have decided to cash in on any saleable assetts.

But for £500,000?  IBournemouth have wanted him for ages and didn't we turn down a higher bid from them previously?


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 21:19:15
Lets keep calm, people. This is how I see it:

1) club will probably only confirm the deal officially once the FL has approved the takeover

2) perspective owners want a debt free club

3) AB et all prepared to take a £10mil hit

4) as debt is some £13mil, there's a shortfall...made up by quick player sales


Short term pain for long term gain.
So in your scenario, we've been "bought" by a bunch of chancers with no money of their own to invest who intend to wipe down the remaining £3m after Black wrote off £10m via quick player sales. As they've raised £400k from selling Ritchie, we could expect maybe another £400k for Wes, say £200k for Ferry, that still leaves another £2m to find at fire-sale prices.

Sorry, but I'm not seeing a whole lot in that to make me terribly optimistic.


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 21:19:54
But for £500,000?  IBournemouth have wanted him for ages and didn't we turn down a higher bid from them previously?
You might need to sit down. BBC reporting £400k not even £500k.


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: jonah on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 21:19:59
@wes_foderingham: Everyone is on the sofa for the day tomorrow . Expecting something big from city! #DeadlineDay

They all got the day off to, what does that mean?

Is Wes expecting an offer from......... Bristol City?
They'll probably offer us £50,000 and we'll bite their arm off!


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 21:20:24
But for £500,000?  IBournemouth have wanted him for ages and didn't we turn down a higher bid from them previously?

Yes, take out Portsmouths cut and then what we actually paid for him and we've made nothing on him.


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: ghanimah on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 21:20:39
Quite so. And in the short term, it's a terrible start to a new reign. Mr McCrory had better be quite some talker, and he'd better have some serious backers.

Sorry but right now this whole deal fucking stinks, just does not add up. Reminds me of Jim Little and BEST. I'm desperate to be wrong about that

I agree it's not promising, but then we have another day to go yet for transfers and also for the dust to settle. I would say comparing the new owners with previous potential money laundering is a tad harsh... :)


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: caveej on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 21:21:21
It's like the banking system. no one gives a fuck. we are doomed


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: lambourn red on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 21:22:00
400k being reported by bbd


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 21:22:54
I agree it's not promising, but then we have another day to go yet for transfers and also for the dust to settle. I would say comparing the new owners with previous potential money laundering is a tad harsh... :)
I didn't mean that. I was more thinking of the scenario where BEST were announced as the new owners, Jim Little was paraded on the pitch before the Yeovil game in front of SKY as the new chairman, he held meetings with fans' groups, the council etc as the representative of the new owners, they even started redecorating, then it turned out a deal hadn't been done, the money wasn't there and it had all gone to shit.


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: Chubbs on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 21:24:28
Why do Swindon always sell for peanuts, it happened with Cox, Austin, Jukebox and now Ritchie all gone for a hell of a lot less than they should have


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 21:24:40
I was calm earlier, but the more I think about Pumbaa's words of why has the official line of communication been cut the more Paul's  BEST scenario repeat worries me.

Fucking football.


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: skin_im_buzzer on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 21:30:13
Is Wes expecting an offer from......... Bristol City?
They'll probably offer us £50,000 and we'll bite their arm off!



He's talking about Man City, having sold super Mario! So they'll be looking to buy a striker tomorrow.


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: Bumpkin on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 21:30:24
Bertie Black had been looking to get out since before the end of last season.

He was sick of signing cheques for 1 millions year to keep it going

Bertie had little or no interest after falling out with Fitton.

Wray became intoxicated on the success of last season.

Bertie was getting annoyed with PDC's spending and the role of Spencer.

Bertie issued the hurry up to the possible new owners a couple of weeks ago.


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: ghanimah on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 21:30:41
I didn't mean that. I was more thinking of the scenario where BEST were announced as the new owners, Jim Little was paraded on the pitch before the Yeovil game in front of SKY as the new chairman, he held meetings with fans' groups, the council etc as the representative of the new owners, they even started redecorating, then it turned out a deal hadn't been done, the money wasn't there and it had all gone to shit.

I see your point, but BEST were dealing with another bunch of unscrupulous shysters in the form of 'unofficial directors'...in this case however I'm not (yet) convinced that the professionalism shown thus far from the current board would allow themselves to be duped in the manner of BEST...


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: Barry Scott on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 21:32:26
Bertie Black had been looking to get out since before the end of last season.

He was sick of signing cheques for 1 millions year to keep it going

Bertie had little or no interest after falling out with Fitton.

Wray became intoxicated on the success of last season.

Bertie was getting annoyed with PDC's spending and the role of Spencer.

Bertie issued the hurry up to the possible new owners a couple of weeks ago.

Fucking hell that's speculation of the average thisis member.


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: skin_im_buzzer on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 21:33:19
So in your scenario, we've been "bought" by a bunch of chancers with no money of their own to invest who intend to wipe down the remaining £3m after Black wrote off £10m via quick player sales. As they've raised £400k from selling Ritchie, we could expect maybe another £400k for Wes, say £200k for Ferry, that still leaves another £2m to find at fire-sale prices.

Sorry, but I'm not seeing a whole lot in that to make me terribly optimistic.


No, I'm saying that new investors want to start as debt free. Black and co are taking a £10m hit. So Black has a bit of a shortfall...so getting in a quick sale (£400k) will slightly help.


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: Dozno9 on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 21:33:28
I hope the new owner has a helicopter a la Brady.


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 21:34:15
I see your point, but BEST were dealing with another bunch of unscrupulous shysters in the form of 'unofficial directors'...in this case however I'm not (yet) convinced that the professionalism shown thus far from the current board would allow themselves to be duped in the manner of BEST...
I hope not. And I agree the personnel are very different this time round. And hopefully tomorrow it will all turn out to be a bit of last-minute takeover kerfuffle (albeit with the sorry side-effect of one of our best players going to one of our rivals for buttons), but the way this has unfolded over the last couple of days really does not stack up. At all.


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: woolster on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 21:40:28
 :(a question was asked last week, ARE WE SAFE FROM RELEGATION :badmood:


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 21:41:35
but the way this has unfolded over the last couple of days really does not stack up. At all.

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Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: jonah on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 21:41:41


He's talking about Man City, having sold super Mario! So they'll be looking to buy a striker tomorrow.

Ah I see, thanks.

City in for Williams then?!!! :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

  


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: NZrobin on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 21:43:48
Paull....Totally agree with your last comments.

Blacks recent actions seem unprofessional to say the very least and if he is prepared to write of his investment as well as his previous partners just seems so strange.

Just have a feeling that perhaps Wray and Fitton still have a future with STFC.

I really hope so.     


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: Ticker45 on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 22:16:28
Feeling very deflated currently is an understatement.

Trouble is I have been here too many times before with the Town and unfortunately all we fans have got in the past is snippets of supposed "information", half-truths and downright lies and very, very rarely do we get told the truth until it is bad news and the sh*t hits the proverbial fan. The current board I thought had risen above all that and am disappointed in the way it is being handled at the moment as it all seems a bit rushed, but Mr Black and his money has got us to where we are at present and thanks has got to be given for that. I can only hope that whoever eventually takes the club over can continue on the same lines.

We are having a tremendous season on the pitch so far and also very disappointed that Matt Richie is going for what appears to be a not very good fee to basically a smaller club than us but currently a rival for promotion. It certainly does not make sense to me and I hope that PdC was party to it and it did not happen without his knowledge!

 :hmmm:





Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: Dozno9 on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 22:17:52
:(a question was asked last week, ARE WE SAFE FROM RELEGATION :badmood:

With or without a points deduction.  :)


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: Sippo on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 22:20:07
Feeling very deflated currently is an understatement.

Trouble is I have been here too many times before with the Town and unfortunately all we fans have got in the past is snippets of supposed "information", half-truths and downright lies and very, very rarely do we get told the truth until it is bad news and the sh*t hits the proverbial fan. The current board I thought had risen above all that and am disappointed in the way it is being handled at the moment as it all seems a bit rushed, but Mr Black and his money has got us to where we are at present and thanks has got to be given for that. I can only hope that whoever eventually takes the club over can continue on the same lines.

We are having a tremendous season on the pitch so far and also very disappointed that Matt Richie is going for what appears to be a not very good fee to basically a smaller club than us but currently a rival for promotion. It certainly does not make sense to me and I hope that PdC was party to it and it did not happen without his knowledge!

 :hmmm:





Sounds like it was part of the takeover deal...


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: dave_bambers_right_sock on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 22:22:08
:(a question was asked last week, ARE WE SAFE FROM RELEGATION :badmood:
Looks like last season the cut off was 50 to be safe (which is what we have now) but that doesn't mean much

1    Charlton A      46    30    11    5    82    36    +46    101
2    Sheffield W    46    28    9    9    81    48    +33    93
3    Sheffield United    46    27    9    10    92    51    +41    90    
4    Huddersfield T     46    21    18    7    79    47    +32    81
5    Franchise         46    22    14    10    84    47    +37    80
6    Stevenage      46    18    19    9    69    44    +25    73
7    Notts County    46    21    10    15    75    63    +12    73
8    Carlisle U        46    18    15    13    65    66    −1    69
9    Brentford            46    18    13    15    63    52    +11    67
10    Colchester U    46    13    20    13    61    66    −5    59
11    Bournemouth    46    15    13    18    48    52    −4    58
12    Tranmere Rovers    46    14    14    18    49    53    −4    56
13    Hartlepool United    46    14    14    18    50    55    −5    56
14    Bury                    46    15    11    20    60    79    −19    56
15    Preston NE     46    13    15    18    54    68    −14    54
16    Oldham Athletic    46    14    12    20    50    66    −16    54
17    Yeovil Town    46    14    12    20    59    80    −21    54
18    Scunthorpe U   46    10    22    14    55    59    −4    52
19    Walsall            46    10    20    16    51    57    −6    50
20    Leyton Orient    46    13    11    22    48    75    −27    50
21    Wycombe W (R)    46    11    10    25    65    88    −23    43    Relegation to League Two
22    Chesterfield (R)    46    10    12    24    56    81    −25    42
23    Exeter City (R)    46    10    12    24    46    75    −29    42
24    Rochdale (R)    46    8    14    24    47    81    −34    38


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: welshred on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 22:24:20
Looks like last season the cut off was 50 to be safe (which is what we have now) but that doesn't mean much

Really? We won't go down. Even if we get a 10 point deduction. We'd have to lose half the squad before relegation happened this season.


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: dave_bambers_right_sock on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 22:27:05
Really? We won't go down. Even if we get a 10 point deduction. We'd have to lose half the squad before relegation happened this season.

Was just posting last seasons final table for reference  :D

Nothing to worry about, move along


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: LucienSanchez on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 22:32:30
Sorry for being lazy, but a red mist has descended... what benefit is there in selling Ritchie for absolute peanuts? Too much to read, but has any explanation been offered?

I really don't know what to make of all this shite, but i'm feeling like we're going to be screwed over by a group of chancers.


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 22:35:31
 Sam Morshead ‏@SamMorshead_SA

Expecting a statement from Town shortly


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 23:00:41
Dunno what the fuss is all about, our club has been sold to an unknown group fronted by a double glazing salesman who don't appear to have any cash...

Seems like a typical STFC kind of day - what could go wrong....


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: Bumpkin on Thursday, January 31, 2013, 15:17:13
everything is fucking shit.

what a fucking waste of time.


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: pauld on Thursday, January 31, 2013, 15:18:06
everything is fucking shit.

what a fucking waste of time.
You weren't once the lyricist for an 80s DeathMetal band were you?


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: Bumpkin on Thursday, January 31, 2013, 15:46:41
You weren't once the lyricist for an 80s DeathMetal band were you?

Death Metal has a brighter future


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: Sharpe on Thursday, January 31, 2013, 20:30:18
Death Metal has a brighter future

That's right lads let's stay positive...


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, January 31, 2013, 20:36:03
That's right lads let's stay positive...

It's like buying a house


Title: Re: What the fu#ks going on....
Post by: donkey on Thursday, January 31, 2013, 20:46:01
It's like buying a house

What? Death Metal? Roar and so on.