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Title: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, July 12, 2013, 21:36:26
I know I'm jumping the gun a but but KMAC going does seem to have some legs.

So, whose available? Can't see it being Sherwood as surely he's got too cushty a job at spurs. I heard a while ago that Hoddle was looking to get back into management, this job might suit him perfectly considering his links with youth players and spurs.

Asides from the usual speculative candidates, which lower league managers are actually looking for work right now?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: leefer on Friday, July 12, 2013, 21:37:53
I think it will be someone like Ward....he is on a contract already and it will cost zilch.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Gnasher on Friday, July 12, 2013, 21:38:53
Martin Ling will be cheap.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Tails on Friday, July 12, 2013, 21:39:14
I dunno but Ive already made an "Insert Name Here Out" banner. Hes Malpas mark 3 whoever he is.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Friday, July 12, 2013, 21:39:40
I dunno but Ive already made an "Insert Name Here Out" banner. Hes Malpas mark 3 whoever he is.
zzzzzzzzzzzzzz


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Friday, July 12, 2013, 21:40:27
Mark Cooper.

Worryingly, I think quite a few of our fans will want Ling and Taylor.  :no:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Frigby Daser on Friday, July 12, 2013, 21:42:11
Whoever it is, they'll need to be a puppet to the board with this transfer policy.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Friday, July 12, 2013, 21:42:26
I think I'd rather have Ling and Taylor than Cooper. Especially if it worries Chang.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Friday, July 12, 2013, 21:42:48
I think it will be someone like Ward....he is on a contract already and it will cost zilch.
Don't want it to be him, but wouldn't be surprised if it was.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Friday, July 12, 2013, 21:43:50
Whoever it is, they'll need to be a puppet to the board with this transfer policy.

Is Power defiitetly pulling the strings? It does seem likely with the Spurs players I suppose.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Cibocchi_Is_God on Friday, July 12, 2013, 21:43:58
Would be fine with Sherwood. Just hope it's not some mega shit yes man.. Or Cooper.



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Shaw Rosso on Friday, July 12, 2013, 21:45:34
Derrick Perreria (Spelling could be way out)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: lambourn red on Friday, July 12, 2013, 21:45:55
I have heard a few times over the last few weeks Stuart Pearce is coming in from a few local people who dont support STFC whether him getting the sack and being local is 2 + 2 = 5 or there is something more to it


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Friday, July 12, 2013, 21:46:30
Is Power defiitetly pulling the strings? It does seem likely with the Spurs players I suppose.
I think that much is more than obvious, the question should be - are the famous Fredi's claims that Power actually owns the club true?  :hmmm:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DiV on Friday, July 12, 2013, 21:47:10
Unlikely but as I've done the last few times - I'll throw out the name Ian Culverhouse, ex Town player and a bloody good one at that, has been coach/assistant manager to Paul Lambert for many years - in that time Lambert has gone from League One Colchester, to League One Norwich, to Premier League Norwich and then Premier League Aston Villa.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Friday, July 12, 2013, 21:47:20
I kind of said this on twitter, but whilst the Sherwood/Spurs link could be fruitful I personally wouldn't much like it. Its silly, but I like us being independent - buy who we want from where we want and live or die by that!

Will probably change my mind if its successful though.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Lemis on Friday, July 12, 2013, 21:49:50
I have a friend who is a posh fan and apparently Mark Cooper is a hopeless manager. I'm not sure of who I want, but  I think Hoodle would be a good pick.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Friday, July 12, 2013, 21:52:45
Pulis


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, July 12, 2013, 21:55:12
Pulis

You're determined to make that one stick aren't you?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Friday, July 12, 2013, 21:56:00
Yeah why the fuck not


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Friday, July 12, 2013, 21:57:31
I have heard a few times over the last few weeks Stuart Pearce is coming in from a few local people who dont support STFC whether him getting the sack and being local is 2 + 2 = 5 or there is something more to it

He does live just outside Marlborough so an easy commute.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Tails on Friday, July 12, 2013, 22:02:08
Pulis Out


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Friday, July 12, 2013, 22:04:21
As long as it's not Mark Cooper. For whatever reason that appointment fills me with dread.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Friday, July 12, 2013, 22:05:37
Brian horton


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Tails on Friday, July 12, 2013, 22:06:26
Cooper out


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Friday, July 12, 2013, 22:07:41
Tails.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DiV on Friday, July 12, 2013, 22:08:41
out


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Friday, July 12, 2013, 22:12:48
Hilarious Tails, superb stuff mate. :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Friday, July 12, 2013, 22:14:07
Hilarious Tails, superb stuff mate. :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

I assume that's a poor attempt at sarcasm.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DMR on Friday, July 12, 2013, 22:20:47
I assume that's a poor attempt at sarcasm.

As was Tails' drivel...


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Tails on Friday, July 12, 2013, 22:21:39
I assume that's a poor attempt at sarcasm.

Way to take my moment away from me :(


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Friday, July 12, 2013, 22:24:10
Way to take my moment away from me :(

Sorry, Batch out.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: BruceChatwin on Friday, July 12, 2013, 22:28:14
Alan Knill
Paul Simpson
Mark Robson
Paul Sturrock
Peter Jackson
Andy Thorn
Henning Berg
Michael Appleton
Peter Reid
Iain Dowie
Mick Wadsworth
Richard O'Kelly
Brian Horton
Jamie Pitman
Micky Mellon
Jim Magilton
Neale Cooper
Carl Fletcher
John Barnes
Sammy McIlroy
Dave Penney
John Coleman
Nick Barmby
Simon Davey
Dean Holdsworth
John Still
Ståle Solbakken
Gary Megson
Keith Curle
Steve Cotterill
Gary Mills
Paul Peschisolido
Terry Connor
Geraint Williams
Martin Ling
Ian Wright
Keith Millen
Paul Groves
Steve Kean
Gary Simpson
Lawrie Sanchez
Paul Hart
Gary Smith
Paul Jewell
Terry Brown
Gary Waddock
Les Parry

 :suicide:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: kerry red on Friday, July 12, 2013, 22:33:13
Fuck me, there's some shite in that list


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: The_Doctor on Friday, July 12, 2013, 22:33:59
Out of that list for me, Gary Megson!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: kerry red on Friday, July 12, 2013, 22:35:08
Noooooooooooooo


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: wobby on Friday, July 12, 2013, 22:51:41
@JedMcCoy: Hi all Monday will see where we are until then I won't be online....


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bert Heads head on Friday, July 12, 2013, 22:57:30
It's gonna be a long week-end.....

 ‏@JedMcCoy 5m Hi all Monday will see where we are until then I won't be online....


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Friday, July 12, 2013, 23:01:53
Pah! They can at least tell us if he's gone or not.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, July 12, 2013, 23:08:39
Pah! They can at least tell us if he's gone or not.

It could be they're not entirely sure themselves yet.

Perhaps, maybe, they could be attempting to negotiate?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Friday, July 12, 2013, 23:12:15

Perhaps, maybe, they could be attempting to negotiate?

That usually turns out well.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ADJr on Friday, July 12, 2013, 23:42:20
Would like Hoddle to take over. Wanted him when PDC left. Never gonna happen, but a man can dream.

I actually reckon Pulis could do a decent job in League One. Not with our squad, mind. He'd need some tall, violent types to play his uniquely shit brand of football.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 06:54:14
Just seen a car with the reg M1k N3W11 pull into the CG car park. Honest.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 07:20:20
I vote Paul Gasgoigne.

Spurs link....check
would be cheap...check
currently out of work....check
would be a good drinking partner to Jed.....check.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Ardiles on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 07:26:03
Would like Hoddle to take over. Wanted him when PDC left. Never gonna happen, but a man can dream.

I'm not sure he'd be able to thread those 50 yard passes in quite the way he used to.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: kerry red on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 07:36:51
Hayley Cropper, for me

We need a transvestite


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: blinkpip on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 07:41:54
Where is STFC Bart went we need him.

Who ever takes it, got a massive job staying up with a group of youngsters.

Big names will avoided it. Get the Orange hats out.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: newmarket red on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 07:51:21
We realy have become a joke of a club since these lot took over we will be lucky to get away with staying up at this rate what a time to fuck around with the season just round the corner joke.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Notts red on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 07:58:27
Just seen a car with the reg M1k N3W11 pull into the CG car park. Honest.
Haha, Newell would have to be smuggled in under darkness surely.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 07:58:58
We realy have become a joke of a club since these lot took over we will be lucky to get away with staying up at this rate what a time to fuck around with the season just round the corner joke.

Becoming a joke?

The occasional rest bite aside, this sort of grizzly business happens at Swindon on a regular basis. There's something in the water supply!

If MacDonald goes, we'll be on our tenth manager in ten years.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Arriba on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 08:06:55
Becoming a joke?

The occasional rest bite aside, this sort of grizzly business happens at Swindon on a regular basis. There's something in the water supply!

If MacDonald goes, we'll be on our tenth manager in ten years.
more reason why we should start from scratch. Continually getting morons running the club. This situation is a fucking joke. Our squad is pathetically weak yet is allegedly costing 2.9mill. The next manager will be cheap and a lap dog to the board and spurs.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: RWB Robin on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 09:02:08
I was certainly one of those who genuinely thought that something positive came out of the presentation from on Weddnesday. However, in the light of all of this, the absence of Lee Power from the evening speaks volumes.  A presentation to supporters from someone who cannot talk about the football is of questionable value really....of course the evening would probably then have got hijacked onto solely football matters; but this row must have been brewing over the past few weeks, and it it is utterly dishonest to present us with such a positive picture when actually a fundamental crisis was brewing.

And you could see an (at the time incomprehensible) disinterest from the players last night.....now it falls into place.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ronnie21 on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 09:05:15
I was certainly one of those who genuinely thought that something positive came out of the presentation from on Weddnesday. However, in the light of all of this, the absence of Lee Power from the evening speaks volumes.  A presentation to supporters from someone who cannot talk about the football is of questionable value really....of course the evening would probably then have got hijacked onto solely football matters; but this row must have been brewing over the past few weeks, and it it is utterly dishonest to present us with such a positive picture when actually a fundamental crisis was brewing.

And you could see an (at the time incomprehensible) disinterest from the players last night.....now it falls into place.
To be honest Wednesday evening was presentation on the business side of things not the football side of things, and it was stated by Steve Murrall that he could not answer anything about the footy side as that was left to Jed and Lee Power and the coaching staff.  So to say it was dishonest is, in my opinion, a bit wide of the mark!!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: moredonboy on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 09:42:53
 :(
Whatever KM decides I wish him well however -

I fear he might well have thrown in the towel - but to do this before the season kicks off is spineless, unless he has very serious personal issues.

I was never convinced he was strong enough in character to ride to rough and tumble of League soccer and handle a board
that quite honestly seem to me amateurish in the extreme. It is fine to be a self sustaining club but without a fit, motivated and competitive squad what is the point? and i could knock up a good looking business plan!

To have such a young inexperienced squad assembled so late in the close season will be a disaster in my opinion.

There has been a total lack of drive at the Club since PDC left and I have no idea which new manager could rescue things this late in the day.

We will struggle to survive   -  I am very sad.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Honkytonk on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 09:47:03
Is there any substance to these rumours? Other than being repeated multiple times? I'm not doubting them, just trying to ascertain their truthfulness. If Kmac is really away for personal reasons, maybe they're why these rumours could have started- he may not be leaving because he has a bad relationship with the board or whatever, he may be leaving because of personal reasons.

If he does go, it will be a massive shame. I was looking forward to seeing what he could do with the young team we've assembled.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: joteddyred on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 09:56:05
It still doesn't appear clear whether KMac has gone permanently or not.  Another example of a time when the club should be issuing a formal statement to clarify the situation or at the least to stop incorrect rumours circulating.

This is one big mess yet again.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Cibocchi_Is_God on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 10:08:12
If KMac has offered his resignation there is no way back for him really, even if the board do try to renegotiate with him.. He's shown that he no longer wants to be manager of Swindon - even if it is foer the right reasons - I can't see him in the dugout again.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ronnie21 on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 10:15:30
:(
Whatever KM decides I wish him well however -

I fear he might well have thrown in the towel - but to do this before the season kicks off is spineless, unless he has very serious personal issues.

I was never convinced he was strong enough in character to ride to rough and tumble of League soccer and handle a board
that quite honestly seem to me amateurish in the extreme. It is fine to be a self sustaining club but without a fit, motivated and competitive squad what is the point? and i could knock up a good looking business plan!

To have such a young inexperienced squad assembled so late in the close season will be a disaster in my opinion.

There has been a total lack of drive at the Club since PDC left and I have no idea which new manager could rescue things this late in the day.

We will struggle to survive   -  I am very sad.
The only drive that PDC had was for himself and he and Jeremy Wray were driving the club into oblivion!!  Everything was fine as long as Andrew Black was signing the monthly cheques off, sadly that stopped and we were 24 hours from disaster, Ritchie was sold and that was meant to cover us to the end of the season but the new chairman was probably going to take us into administration anyway . . the consequences of that were enormous and we wouldn't have been playing Forest Green last night it would probably have been a Boxing Day derby!!  It was a great ride but I think we knew it wasn't going to last - although it did come to a halt rather suddenly!!  As regards to writing a business plan, how many people could write a business plan that involves a turnover of £5 million, with wages for the playing and coaching staff alone costing £4.8 mill!!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: kerry red on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 10:16:41
This has only come about since Power passed the fit and proper person test.

We've all known the players who were coming in for weeks now, so did KMac.

So why wait til now to resign - nothing has changed except Power's position being confirmed.

Hope to god he doen't think he can do the job cos he's on a bit of an ego trip


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Boy About Town on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 10:17:21
:(
Whatever KM decides I wish him well however -

I fear he might well have thrown in the towel - but to do this before the season kicks off is spineless, unless he has very serious personal issues.

I was never convinced he was strong enough in character to ride to rough and tumble of League soccer and handle a board
that quite honestly seem to me amateurish in the extreme. It is fine to be a self sustaining club but without a fit, motivated and competitive squad what is the point? and i could knock up a good looking business plan!

To have such a young inexperienced squad assembled so late in the close season will be a disaster in my opinion.

There has been a total lack of drive at the Club since PDC left and I have no idea which new manager could rescue things this late in the day.

We will struggle to survive   -  I am very sad.

 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: Get a grip

Seriously not taking this serious. Tool.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 10:25:52
A couple of points here.....
This has only come about since Power passed the fit and proper person test.
Has it? how do you know for sure

We've all known the players who were coming in for weeks now, so did KMac.
How do you know that he knew for certain?

So why wait til now to resign - nothing has changed except Power's position being confirmed.
Maybe he has been considering his position all Summer?

Hope to god he doen't think he can do the job cos he's on a bit of an ego trip
How do you know that he is on an ego trip?

Not picking holes for the sake of it, but, we as fans know nothing at all of this in all honesty do we? we(you) are guessing based upon snippets of information posted on forums by other fans.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 10:31:47

We will struggle to survive 


Fucking hell


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 10:53:36
Fucking hell

Its not inconceivable we will be in a relation battle though is it.

Its also possible these kids will be as good as the hype and see us at  the other end.

Its certain that if Kmac goes due to footballing reasons we are a bit of a shambles. Or back to normal as I like to think of it.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Benzel on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 10:58:08
Or back to normal as I like to think of it.

This is exactly why I can barely get myself worked up about this whole situation. I grew up a Town fan in this kind of shit storm environment, water off a duck's back.

If Power appoints himself or Quinn.... I may actually get animated but until then... meh.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 11:00:50
If Power appoints himself or Quinn.... I may actually get animated but until then... meh.

or Newell.

I agree to a point. It is concerning though IF we are getting cheap young players whatever the manager says. I kind of thought KMac was OKing all this and thought they were good enough. If...


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 11:02:37
Hopefully, its not a matter of him just leaving but being offered a cushy youth job somewhere.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Arriba on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 11:03:18
Its not inconceivable we will be in a relation battle though is it.

Its also possible these kids will be as good as the hype and see us at  the other end.

Its certain that if Kmac goes due to footballing reasons we are a bit of a shambles. Or back to normal as I like to think of it.
that's clearly what mateys post meant which I think is a reasonable conclusion as things stand. Some of the spurs lot will probably be good enough but not all of them will.  those that are  will feel the heat from the stands I suspect


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Benzel on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 11:04:54
or Newell.

I agree to a point. It is concerning though IF we are getting cheap young players whatever the manager says. I kind of thought KMac was OKing all this and thought they were good enough. If...

Oh Christ, yeah, or him.

I did too, until we hear some reasons as to why he may have handed in his resignation, I just can't bring myself to get too worked up. If he really has not had a say then fair enough, no manager should have to work like that, unless that is the pre-approved set up. I can't imagine he came in thinking he'd just be given a bunch of players.

Hopefully, we can go down the young, new manager route that has served us so well, someone that will have belief in the talent these kids have.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: leefer on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 11:06:14
Dosn't matter whether the Spurs lot are good or bad....its down to the manager to have the final say on all incomings.

Obviously players out is a different matter when a club is in dire financial trouble.



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DRS on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 11:09:45
Anyone thought it could genuinly be a personal reason?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: leefer on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 11:11:01
No....the board would have made that clear if they had any sense.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DRS on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 11:12:11
Still time,it has been 16 hours


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: leefer on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 11:14:00
Jed is refusing to talk to anyone untill Monday Dean....this wouldn't be the case surely if it was just K Mac having personal reasons.

My view is Jed would be screaming loud that all was well.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Cibocchi_Is_God on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 11:15:08
Do you think/know if it is personal reasons DRS? Surely would be the sensible thing to release a statement first thing if it is.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DRS on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 11:16:32
Jed is refusing to talk to anyone untill Monday Dean....this wouldn't be the case surely if it was just K Mac having personal reasons.

My view is Jed would be screaming loud that all was well.
All is clearly not well,will get a statement before monday that is for sure


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: leefer on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 11:18:25
I hope you are right Dean...maybe the weekend will be spent on patching things up,i mean i remember Lou Macari leaving....then returning a few days later. :hmmm:

Though it is fair to say Lou was sacked.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: kerry red on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 11:20:14
Jed et al appointed KMac - now Power is in place KMac appears to be off.

It seems clear to me that Jed is just the mouthpiece and Power is now the puppet master.

Now, I don'T give a flying one who does what as long as my team keeps me entertained on a Saturday

It's never good when the off the pitch shenanigans are overshadowing what is happening on the pitch


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 11:46:56
Anyone thought it could genuinly be a personal reason?

Absolutely, need to hear his reasons before flying off on one. Bound to be a bit of speculation in the meantime as its not as normal thing to happen at this time of the season.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: adje on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 11:50:31
Out of that list for me, Gary Megson!

If that happens I will not attend-honestly,I cant stand that prick


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 11:52:51
I am sure that a certain minority will not accept that even if it is actually true anyway. Jed/Power will always be the instigator of this in their eyes no matter what "facts" come out to the contrary.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: china red on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 11:53:00
I think finding a British manager prepared to work with the players he's given is going to be difficult.



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ronnie21 on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 11:57:18
I am sure that a certain minority will not accept that even if it is actually true anyway. Jed/Power will always be the instigator of this in their eyes no matter what "facts" come out to the contrary.
With you on that one, if Jed had not come in when he did, gambled by doing it without due diligence to avoid us going into admin again we certainly wouldn't be having this conversation!!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 12:31:35
Surely we'd be in a better position if Jed didn't come in or the same position at worst? We'd of gone in to admin, not gone up due to a ten to fifteen point deduction and then would have been bought by some professionals who were allowed to due diligence.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 12:35:29
We would have been expelled from the league i think. 3rd strike and all that.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 12:40:45
Is this actually written in the football leagues rules or is it an assumption people have made?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ronnie21 on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 12:50:13
Is this actually written in the football leagues rules or is it an assumption people have made?
League rules, that was why it was vital to do it then or not at all.  And as for waiting for "professionals" to come in and take us over this club was up for sale at the start of last season and there was only one taker who sadly passed away!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 12:50:42
We would have been expelled from the league i think. 3rd strike and all that.
I know thats been hinted at that, but both Darlington and Pompey survived 3 administrations without being expelled or demoted just points deductions. Obviously Darlington has since folded and reformed but at the time they survived it.

I don't think anyone actually knows for sure.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ronnie21 on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 12:56:20
I know thats been hinted at that, but both Darlington and Pompey survived 3 administrations without being expelled or demoted just points deductions. Obviously Darlington has since folded and reformed but at the time they survived it.

I don't think anyone actually knows for sure.
My understanding from an "existing" employee at STFC was it was changed to avoid the scenarios you have pointed out.  Time will tell, there will be more clubs going into admin this season I guess!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 12:57:34
I couldn't see that happening myself if Darlo and Pompey didn't get expelled. At the worst we might have had to start this season on a points deduction as well as the points deduction to take us out of the play offs. At least we might have had a squad and a manager to give us a fighting chance though.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: kerry red on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 13:53:05
Well he's gone!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 13:58:07
Out of interest I asked Jed on twitter when we would hear from Power. He said within a couple of weeks.

I am guessing we will hear when he decides who he wants as the new manager.



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: kerry red on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 13:59:16
Or whether he wants to


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: dave_bambers_right_sock on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 13:59:40
 K Mac gone who's next in the firing line ?

1450hrs:  Sky Sports News ‏@SkySportsNews 8m Sky sources: Swindon manager Kevin MacDonald to leave club


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: kerry red on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 14:01:46
Psycho?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Posh Red on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 14:13:04
K Mac gone who's next in the firing line ?

1450hrs:  Sky Sports News ‏@SkySportsNews 8m Sky sources: Swindon manager Kevin MacDonald to leave club

Reported on sky that MacDonald was unhappy with the criticism he has received from Town fans on Social Media.

So it's our fault then.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Summerof69 on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 14:16:17
Reported on sky that MacDonald was unhappy with the criticism he has received from Town fans on Social Media.

So it's our fault then.

But do Sky really know what they're talking about as it's 'lower league football'.

It's simply the fact that he's not having a say in what players come in.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 14:17:50
If it really is that, and its not a smokescreen for 'Powers running everything I can't make any of my own signings, I'm off' then he needs to give up idea of ever managing right now.



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 14:20:43
I wasn't aware MacDonald even used "social media"?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Kinky Tom on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 14:26:16
so is this a new thing or is it re. stick he got during last season?  seems a strange time to leave because of old criticism, why get this close to the start of the new season?

as ever i have no idea what to believe.


Title: Re: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 14:27:24
I recently said I wasn't a fan of his 4-5-1 system at home last season. Does that make me part responsible? I don't think so. That's what forums are for. Places to express opinions.

I agree that maybe management isn't for him, although there will be the inevitable ' our mong fans' comments I think you would be hard pressed to find a club with fans that are any different.

Assuming this is the real reason...


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ronnie21 on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 14:39:57
Reported on sky that MacDonald was unhappy with the criticism he has received from Town fans on Social Media.

So it's our fault then.
That's alright then, I thought for one horrible minute it would be a stick to thrash Jed and Lee Power!!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: kerry red on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 14:42:26
Reported on sky that MacDonald was unhappy with the criticism he has received from Town fans on Social Media.

So it's our fault then.

Fucking diddums


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Cibocchi_Is_God on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 14:43:12
If that's true then KMac should get a fucking grip.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Essexred on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 14:44:48
He's in the wrong game if that is true. Never easy being a Town fan.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: kerry red on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 14:45:35
He was on a hiding to nothng having to follow PdC - hopefully the new fella will benefit from KMac being a bit of a buffer.

Pretty fucking wussy, though


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 15:00:42
He was on a hiding to nothng having to follow PdC - hopefully the new fella will benefit from KMac being a bit of a buffer.

Pretty fucking wussy, though
If you believe that excuse, I've got a couple of second hand cars I'd like to sell you.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 15:01:30
I recently said I wasn't a fan of his 4-5-1 system at home last season. Does that make me part responsible?
You bastard, Batch. Hope you're proud of yourself


Title: Re: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 15:05:36
He's officially gone, club tweeted it.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Posh Red on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 15:05:51
He has Gone.

Confirmed by the club on Twitter


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Honkytonk on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 15:09:20
We're front page news of the BBC now. Truly wonderful.

Would like to know the real reasons behind this. As reported, Batch's fault, or speculation, Jed's fault.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Cibocchi_Is_God on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 15:11:27
Mark Cooper put in temporary charge, hopefully very temporary.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Langers on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 15:11:43
I don't think anyone could have written the events of the last year at STFC. Mental.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: BruceChatwin on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 15:13:36
What criticism on social media? He's probably had more support recently than he's ever had before in view of the age of recent signings, his pedigree working with youth players and Swindon fans gradually coming round to an acceptance of the path we're taking on and off the field.

If he can't take criticism from the fans then

1: He shouldn't have gotten into management in the first place

2: He should have quit after MK away, when the fans antipathy with him was at it's apogee, rather than hanging around until three weeks before the new season leaving us with no manager, 'no tactics' and little time to resolve either just when he was starting to win over some support from the fans for what he might be able to offer us.

Backroom issues still seems more plausible to me. If true though then utterly pathetic.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 15:16:21
Here we go again.

Sunrise, sunset.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: kaufman on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 15:20:01
So do we end up with whoever is left on the list who doesn't get the under-21 job? or the Former manager?

intéressant


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 15:21:24
Sky bet have drawn up the first grid

Cooper 3/1
Pearce 9/1
Megson 12/1
Hoddle 20/1


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ADJr on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 15:26:45
Sky bet have drawn up the first grid

Cooper 3/1


Really?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: kerry red on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 15:28:58
The way the club have been going lately, I presume that is Tommy Cooper

Or maybe Jilly Cooper


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 15:32:37
Batch got KMac out, he should decide who takes over.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: kerry red on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 15:34:26
Well, he'll have to buy a wig, red nose, squirty flower and a huge pair of shoes to fit in in the boardroom


Title: Re: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 15:35:55
I'm going to Vegas in September. Sheena Easton has a show on in Vegas.......hmmmn


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 15:36:15
Well, this is all a little pantomime.


Title: Re: Re: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 15:37:20
Well, this is all a little pantomime.
ooooh no it isn't


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Stef Troll on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 15:43:54
Good news he's left. Had little confidence in his ability based on his tactics and management style come the end of last season.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Posh Red on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 15:45:14
Batch, are you any good at Football Manager?

If so, maybe you could do the job in your spare time ;)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 15:46:35
Does Batch have his coaching badges?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Posh Red on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 15:48:34
Does Batch have his coaching badges?

We could have a whip round & send him on the course if not


Title: Re: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 15:54:15
No FM experience. I have some badges from when I was in cubs about 30 years so. The only one I can remember is home help, which given the age of our squad could come in handy.

Happy to do the job. How difficult can it be. I'll install DV as my assistant, his stats will win is the league.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Honkytonk on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 15:57:41
Batch, are you any good at Football Manager?

If so, maybe you could do the job in your spare time ;)

WTF is this, Ancient Rome? Batch got rid of the previous manager, you don't give the job to the guy who stabbed the previous one in the back.

BATCH OUT!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Levi lapper on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 15:58:06
The way the club have been going lately, I presume that is Tommy Cooper

Or maybe Jilly Cooper

Alice cooper?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: donkey on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 16:07:07
Alice cooper?

Mac's out for summer?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 16:23:24
Alice cooper?
No More Mr Nice Guy


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ronnie21 on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 17:29:09
Well I don't think Dr. Chang predicted that one, whose the next manager then Pierre!!  On second thoughts we had better ask DRS, he did say there would be a statement today!!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 17:54:16
There's so much smoke and mirrors around this latest development, that it's really difficult to interpret wtf is going on even for a seasoned Boardroom watcher.

 I can't help think that Power must have someone in mind...


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Riddick on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 17:54:56
Robbie Fowler says he is interested!!

Don't whats going to happen, we seemed to have the right sort of manager for the way we were going this season. Will be interesting to find out what the reasons for leaving are.

Would love Hoddle to come back


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: newmarket red on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 18:11:21
What a fucking mess were in pathetic  :suicide:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 18:36:25
Sherwood into 3-1 fav.  Sky bet have clearly got hold of the spurs connection.

He'll be odds on by Monday morning.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 18:38:39
Wouldn't Sherwood be a Richard Money-style major compensation payment? Sure I remember him being in the frame for another job (Sheffield United?) and being scuppered by Spurs wanting seven figures.

Could be total bollocks.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: @mwooly63 on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 18:39:37
Wouldn't Sherwood be a Richard Money-style major compensation payment? Sure I remember him being in the frame for another job (Sheffield United?) and being scuppered by Spurs wanting seven figures.

Could be total bollocks.

Blackburn IIRC


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 18:44:09
Unless we took him on a season long loan? :D


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: RedRag on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 18:47:23
it might be the shit they found at the club caused them to search out his investment and help. 

Shit like the loan from the 1950s?

The only shit found at the club came from Jed's own mouth.

Jed talks it and Lee Power's record is dropping others in it.  If anyone thinks this combo's involvement will end happily for us lot they need to be certified.

You could say that applies to us all anyway but hey ho 10 managers in 10 years is nothing if not entertaining.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Whits on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 18:48:03
Would love Hoddle to come back

could still do a job on the pitch to..


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 18:48:19
Latest List from Skybet

Tim Sherwood 3/1    
Mark Cooper 5/1    
Les Ferdinand 10/1    
Micky Mellon 12/1  Martin Ling 12/1    
Paul Sturrock 16/1 Terry Connor 16/1 Michael Appleton 16/1 Gary Megson 16/1 Dean Holdsworth 16/1 Carl Fletcher 16/1    
Terry Butcher 20/1 Neil Warnock 20/1    Stuart Pearce 20/1    Glenn Hoddle 20/1    –




Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 18:49:41
Those 16/1's really are depressing.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: leefer on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 18:58:17
What price Darren Ward ;)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: janaage on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 19:05:00
Half of those managers wouldn't come near us at present. Swindon manager at the moment isn't exactly a job with a heck of a lot of potential.  You'd be better off leaving it this time round, wait til we're back in L2 then pick up the reigns.

Feel a recession about to hit the club's fortunes again.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Riddick on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 19:28:06
Tim Sherwood would be a good appointment i think. Has a good reputation in the game for the work done behind the scenes at Tottenham, he was overlooked for the DOF job at Spurs. Doubt there is any truth in it at all really, but he's a name i'd be very happy with.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Arriba on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 19:39:08
If I could become arsed enough I'd be trying to oust the board,as they are a bunch of chancers who do not deserve to run stfc.
If I could be arsed I'd say sack the fans,as they are mostly clueless morons who apart from their ticket fees offer nothing to the club.
If I could be arsed I'd say sack the players,as mostly they ain't good enough.
Can't be arsed though.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 19:58:31
Edgar Davids... He'd pick himself too.

!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Sippo on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 20:31:56
Half of those managers wouldn't come near us at present. Swindon manager at the moment isn't exactly a job with a heck of a lot of potential.  You'd be better off leaving it this time round, wait til we're back in L2 then pick up the reigns.

Feel a recession about to hit the club's fortunes again.

See for me a manager had the perfect opportunity to get a possible promotion last season on their CV when Mr DiCanio left. All they had to do was maintain and keep the momentum going. We didn't have many applicants for the role now.

Something has happened once again behind the scenes at boardroom level.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 20:50:46
Bet the appoint hope powell. The birds team is better than the mens team apparently according to her


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 20:53:27
Been out all day nd come home to this randomness!!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: janaage on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 20:54:41
Go back out JFW! Quick!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 21:01:38
Might well do!! When I say "out" I meant in the garden!  8)  :toocool:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: The_Doctor on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 22:07:02
Might well do!! When I say "out" I meant in the garden!  8)  :toocool:
lady garden?  :sherlock:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Soothsayers on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 22:53:12
Just to add names not yet put in:
Gus Poyet, Jamie Carragher.
Someone did mention Pulis whilst we still had KMac, but it's not in the odds.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Saturday, July 13, 2013, 22:54:29
Poyet? How many have you had?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Kinky Tom on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 01:27:53
this chap?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/meet-gary-white-one-worlds-2052284


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: @MacPhlea on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 08:22:43
Didn't a spurs fan come on here a few weeks ago giving some background on the loanees, suggested Sherwood would be manager by the start of the season and was basically called a cunt for suggesting it?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: @MacPhlea on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 08:27:10
Wouldn't Sherwood be a Richard Money-style major compensation payment? Sure I remember him being in the frame for another job (Sheffield United?) and being scuppered by Spurs wanting seven figures.

Could be total bollocks.

The main difference here is that we seem to creating a strong link to Spurs and if we operate as a feeder club they may be more comfortable letting him manage here without compo... Of course it's probably all horse shit...  Maybe he'll come here on secondment...


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: RobertT on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 09:15:22
Shit like the loan from the 1950s?

The only shit found at the club came from Jed's own mouth.

Jed talks it and Lee Power's record is dropping others in it.  If anyone thinks this combo's involvement will end happily for us lot they need to be certified.

You could say that applies to us all anyway but hey ho 10 managers in 10 years is nothing if not entertaining.


No, the shit like a wage bill massively beyond our limits.  For as long as Black wanted to fund it, it wasn't shit, the moment he withdrew the funding we were a liquidation case waiting to happen.

That's basic maths, nothing to do with believing anyone.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: leefer on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 09:37:06
If anyone thinks that Tim Sherwood will come here as manager they are deluded.
It just isn't going to happen....if it does i will sprinkle Cock Flavour seasoning on toast and dripping and scoff the lot.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 09:39:21
I hope all those that wanted KMac out will be fucking pleased with themselves when we have Mark Cooper in charge this season...fucking wonderful.

For the record I will chuck another name in there who is actively looking for a job....John Hughes.

I WANT Hoddle, Stuart Pearce would be a name but is not a yes man as isn't Hoddle, so it won't be either of them.

Sherwood will want a settlement paid to Spurs, unless we can arrange some sort of manager sell on fee, Ian Wright has recently left MKD....and how about Newell/Stein? that would probably please me even less than Cooper but a possibility I recon.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: leefer on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 09:44:15
(http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/ad185/swindon123/cooper_zpsd311c3ed.jpg) (http://s934.photobucket.com/user/swindon123/media/cooper_zpsd311c3ed.jpg.html)

Cooperman must be favourite i reckon.....got a feeling Ward may get the nod though.


Title: Re: Re: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 09:45:25
I hope all those that wanted KMac out will be fucking pleased with themselves when we have Mark Cooper in charge this season...fucking wonderful.

I still doubt he left because of a few fans criticism.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 09:52:30
I still doubt he left because of a few fans criticism.
Oh I doubt that also, mine was a statement in general about a majority of fans never taking to him just because he had to follow a man with THE biggest ego in the world, he was always on a losing battle there IMO.

I mean some oon here claiming he had no passion because he was calm on the touchlines or they then complain because he spat his chewing gum next to the dugout during a game and spitting on camera at the Yeovil game....they need to take themselves outside and have a strong word with themselves.

KMac got a lot wrong in his time, certainly with tactics etc but I genuinely hoped that with the right players he would do a good job for us, some fans never gave him the chance no matter what.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Riddick on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 09:53:26

For the record I will chuck another name in there who is actively looking for a job....John Hughes.


I'd take John Hughes, i really like the way he had a poor Hartlepool team playing very good football.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 09:53:56
That said......following on from KMac will not be anywhere near as tough a job in the eyes of many fans so its time to kick on and get in the right man and not just a yes man.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 10:01:12
The whole 'abuse from fans' towards K-mac myth is annoying me.

The biggest myth that I have ever heard is that he was given abuse at matches, not at all. People point to the Franchise match where all it was after an inept 60 minutes or so of football was people chanting '4-4-2', how that can be considered abuse is beyond me.

A few comments from kids on Twitter and Facebook? Like MacDonald sits at home trawling through facebook pages and one day before playing Forest Green in a friendly saw something he didn't like and thought 'im off'.

No, the problem here is quite fucking obvious and that is the manager of the football club did not get a say in player recruitment and he was having youngsters from one club forced into the side. K-mac seems a very calm and almost 'relaxed' presence that him finding this too much and walking does not bode well at all. Those who think we can get a Hoddle or similar big name are living in a dream land. It will be a yes man to the board who doesn't mind not having any involvement beyond coaching, simple as that, and I don't even want to think about the possibilities of who it could be. I almost wouldn't mind it being Cooper as I think some of the possible options are going to be frightening.

On a final note, some of the shite I have seen on Twitter about it being the fans' fault for K-mac going is beyond belief.
 


Title: Re: Re: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 10:01:25
That said......following on from KMac will not be anywhere near as tough a job in the eyes of many fans so its time to kick on and get in the right man and not just a yes man.
I think that will be true initially.

With the squad we have today I think the next manager has a chance of some success, though I think we are a midfielder short. If more senior players depart (other than caddis as that is expected) then they may be back under pressure petty quickly.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: RedRag on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 10:04:38
Robert T - I like your posts and you are clearly well informed on the financials.

I don't however think Jed "found" that shit - we TEFers all knew this - it was obvious.

We may have been heading for administration but liquidation?  Hardly.  The so called "shit" was far, far less than when compared with when Fitton took over, when we may have been heading for liquidation.

Wrong thread to continue but Jed's cheerleaders need to consider that his involvement will not have cost him a penny - Ritchie for £400k did the honours there - and we have been fed a load of stupid rumours and misinformation on media outlets since he took over - the latest of which is KMac having left because his wife was upset by chanting.

The clear strategy is always hidden.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: THE FLASH on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 10:14:36
Let's see Mrs Shah in action on Monday.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 10:19:29
Bet the appoint hope powell. The birds team is better than the mens team apparently according to her

Based on technical ability she said. So if the women had the power, size, speed and strength of the men, they'd win based more on their touch and technique. I have to say judging by the first touch of some of the players in the mens team, that's not so ludicrous.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 10:26:44
I hope all those that wanted KMac out will be fucking pleased with themselves when we have Mark Cooper in charge this season...fucking wonderful.

I'm sure this will be a lesson to football fans everywhere, don't ever criticise the manager!!

(http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/english51.gif)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: janaage on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 10:29:54
Based on technical ability she said. So if the women had the power, size, speed and strength of the men, they'd win based more on their touch and technique. I have to say judging by the first touch of some of the players in the mens team, that's not so ludicrous.

Yes because the standard of goalkeeping in women's football is so superior to the men.

So what she's saying is if my auntie had bollocks she'd be my uncle, and therefore be better at football.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: leefer on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 10:42:52
I still doubt he left because of a few fans criticism.

PDC had a lot more to contend with on his arrival....a lot of fans were not happy because of the fascist element,not to mention the poor start he had here as manager.

I agree that a few fans comments isn't the reason why he has left.

Maybe DRS  is right,maybe it just is personal reasons....whatever, it is history and the quicker we get a manager on board the better.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Riddick on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 10:46:00
Chris Ramsey is an interesting name in the odds for next manager. Works in young player development at Spurs, was assistant manager to Peter Taylor at the U20 tournament this summer (would suggest he fancies managing a little), former town player


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: leefer on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 10:47:04
Would certainly appeal to some older fans i think Riddick.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DRS on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 11:07:06
What odds is he


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 11:08:01
Chris Ramsey is an interesting name in the odds for next manager. Works in young player development at Spurs, was assistant manager to Peter Taylor at the U20 tournament this summer (would suggest he fancies managing a little), former town player
I would love Rambo as new manager!

He is Sherwoods assistant and has been coaching youth football for many years at England level...fits the bill nicely.

here is a little article on him..

http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20120429/football/-Malta-was-the-catalyst-that-changed-my-life-.417579


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Riddick on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 11:11:12
14/1 at Bet Victor, 3rd fave behind Sherwood and Cooper.

Sure he's just in there because of spurs connection, Ferdinand is same odds.



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 11:13:39
14/1 at Bet Victor, 3rd fave behind Sherwood and Cooper.

Sure he's just in there because of spurs connection, Ferdinand is same odds.


I wouldnt say JUST because of his Spurs connection....he was a massive favourite at Swindon years back and has all the right coaching qualifications needed and is an England FA tutor.

Seems like a perfect fit for the job.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Riddick on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 11:15:59
I wouldnt say JUST because of his Spurs connection....he was a massive favourite at Swindon years back and has all the right coaching qualifications needed and is an England FA tutor.

Seems like a perfect fit for the job.

Thats why i added my first post about him, seems to tick all the boxes for fans, board with youth focus etc


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 11:19:21
Seems like a great option, much better than those 16/1 failures on Sky Bet the other day.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 11:21:36
Trying to second guess Swindon is impossible.

Hopefully the appointment is sensible and made soon.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: leefer on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 11:23:17
http://www.skybet.com/football/specials/manager-specials

Coopers odds look fairly juicy.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: kerry red on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 11:24:47
Who the fuck is Nicky Mellon at 16/1


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 11:25:19
Who the fuck is Nicky Mellon at 16/1

Got Fleetwood up a few divisions with a large budget.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nemo on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 11:25:53
Who on earth is Micky Mellon?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: kerry red on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 11:26:26
Got Fleetwood up a few divisions with a large budget.

Maybe he can get us up with a small budgie


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 11:29:42
http://www.skybet.com/football/specials/manager-specials

Coopers odds look fairly juicy.
Mellons look juicy too :D


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: leefer on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 11:34:32
Mellons look juicy too :D

 :clap: :clap:



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: china red on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 12:27:29
I don't want Tim Sherwood as boss, his favourite cheese is mild chedder


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: fatbasher on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 15:00:20
Consider this, no-one saw Kevin MacDonald coming did they? Maybe going, but not coming in. So watch for a left of field appointment in the next week. I doubt they'll piss about for more than that. Scan the stands for interested managers and agents on Tuesday.....


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: SwindonOldie on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 15:13:45
Had £20 on Stuart Pearce @ 20/1 (6/1 2nd fav with BetVictor)  :hmmm:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: wokinghamred on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 15:24:50
I wouldnt say JUST because of his Spurs connection....he was a massive favourite at Swindon years back and has all the right coaching qualifications needed and is an England FA tutor.

Seems like a perfect fit for the job.

And of course he has a Luton connection. Ex coach and was he assistant manager there as well?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: SwindonOldie on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 15:29:57
Had £20 on Stuart Pearce @ 20/1 (6/1 2nd fav with BetVictor)  :hmmm:

Would really love Hoddle and his Academy here 


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DRS on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 17:10:20
The whole 'abuse from fans' towards K-mac myth is annoying me.

The biggest myth that I have ever heard is that he was given abuse at matches, not at all. People point to the Franchise match where all it was after an inept 60 minutes or so of football was people chanting '4-4-2', how that can be considered abuse is beyond me.

A few comments from kids on Twitter and Facebook? Like MacDonald sits at home trawling through facebook pages and one day before playing Forest Green in a friendly saw something he didn't like and thought 'im off'.

No, the problem here is quite fucking obvious and that is the manager of the football club did not get a say in player recruitment and he was having youngsters from one club forced into the side. K-mac seems a very calm and almost 'relaxed' presence that him finding this too much and walking does not bode well at all. Those who think we can get a Hoddle or similar big name are living in a dream land. It will be a yes man to the board who doesn't mind not having any involvement beyond coaching, simple as that, and I don't even want to think about the possibilities of who it could be. I almost wouldn't mind it being Cooper as I think some of the possible options are going to be frightening.

On a final note, some of the shite I have seen on Twitter about it being the fans' fault for K-mac going is beyond belief.
 
So you say he has left because he had no say on transfers but have said recently that players who were going arrive didnt because Kmac changed his mind,McEvoy for example.Which one is it Chang?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: hobodan on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 17:38:33
KMac should come out and put the record straight as to why he fucked off. If it isn't because of abuse then he should have some decency and come out and say so rather than let these rumours fester.
And if it truly is because of a few kids on twitter then KMac really isn't cut out for the world of football management is he.

People talking of Stuart Peirce, Hoddle etc are living in dreamland. Why the the fuck would they come to a club without a pot to piss in & cowboy directors?
We need a manager who is used to scrapping in the lower leagues on "lower leagues" budgets.
Paul Trollope anyone?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 17:40:29
I was thinking Trollope earlier actually. Fits the bill with what the board might be looking for. Did well at Rovers just as a head coach with a DOF above him.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: adje on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 17:41:11
KMac should come out and put the record straight as to why he fucked off. If it isn't because of abuse then he should have some decency and come out and say so rather than let these rumours fester.
And if it truly is because of a few kids on twitter then KMac really isn't cut out for the world of football management is he.

People talking of Stuart Peirce, Hoddle etc are living in dreamland. Why the the fuck would they come to a club without a pot to piss in & cowboy directors?
We need a manager who is used to scrapping in the lower leagues on "lower leagues" budgets.
Paul Trollope anyone?


You'd be surprised how desperate some people are for a management job


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: manc_red on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 17:43:40
So you say he has left because he had no say on transfers but have said recently that players who were going arrive didnt because Kmac changed his mind,McEvoy for example.Which one is it Chang?

Fair point well made.

Unfortunately though, Chang is right on this occasion.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DRS on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 17:59:20
Why? Because it suits what people want to believe


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: manc_red on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 18:10:13
Why? Because it suits what people want to believe

No. Because the other explainations all seem highly improbable under the circumstances.
 


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DRS on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 18:18:30
It was also probable 6 wks ago that the current lot were apparanty crooks and had no money,that was proved wrong.Said it loads of times that thirs lot could be a fucking nightmare but have apart from bitching what would you do different?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: SwindonOldie on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 18:26:23
Les Ferdinand now 6/4 fav


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 18:26:39
Have they got money? Genuine question, I'm not sure what they have put in over and above a £1.2M bond (returnable) and have said they can make up a shortfall of 500K in budgeted wages v current wages bill.

It doesn't much matter, since they are the only game in town. 


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: manc_red on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 18:27:23
It was also probable 6 wks ago that the current lot were apparanty crooks and had no money,that was proved wrong.

No I think that was more or less bang on actually. Hence the scratching around for investors and willingness to put the likes of Greg Hall on the board. Power is quite obviously the 'money' you refer to. Which sort of brings my point full circle...


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 18:30:44
Les Ferdinand now 6/4 fav

That's Sir Les to you :)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 18:30:57
So Swindon are off to Portugal next week. Hopefully a permanent replacement and backroom staff are appointed by then.

 :popcorn:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DRS on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 18:31:21
And what would you do different


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 18:32:54
So Swindon are off to Portugal next week. Hopefully a permanent replacement and backroom staff are appointed by then.

 :popcorn:

Pick me Jed, pick me. I need a holiday.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 18:34:12
It was also probable 6 wks ago that the current lot were apparanty crooks and had no money,that was proved wrong.
Was it? How? When? All I've seen is confirmation that at least one of the guys they got in who did have money (Hall) pretty much was a crook. Nothing that proves they have a proverbial pot. And as manc_red says, their desperation to get folk like Hall in rather suggests they don't. Or that they're a bit shady themselves. Desperate or bent, neither looks terribly encouraging


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 18:39:01
For fuck's sake.

All was positive after the business plan presentation yet after the manager resigns, whom was not even rated by many, they board are now a bunch of crooks again?

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Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bob's Orange on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 18:40:04
Lets get Stefan Freund in.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: kerry red on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 18:41:36
I don't think they are desperate and/or bent.

What they are is clueless as to the setting up and running of a professional football club.

They may well learn in time - the question is where will we be by then


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Power to people on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 18:45:47
I do not believe that KMac had no say on the players brought in although within that I do believe that some players were brought in for him, I believe that he was consulted on who he wanted to try and bring in from spurs and it was left to power to do the wheeling and dealing.

I would like a statement from KMac perhaps through the LMA to clarify his reasons.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: kerry red on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 18:48:41
I posted before that we all knew who was coming into the club for a few weeks - re the Spurs contingent.

So why did KMac wait until, probably, the worst possible time to do a runner?

I think it has little to do with player recruitment


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: SuggWillSugg MBE on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 18:48:48
Lets get Stefan Freund in.

I would cry with happiness if that would happen. We named our futsal team after him.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 18:49:04

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If someone makes a point that the board have money, which is **good** news, is it not OK to ask what we missed that showed they do?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DRS on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 18:52:26
If someone makes a point that the board have money, which is **good** news, is it not OK to ask what we missed that showed they do?
I was under the impression they showed accounts at the meeting with the trust


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 18:53:06
If someone makes a point that the board have money, which is **good** news, is it not OK to ask what we missed that showed they do?

Not even close to the point Batch. The meltdown was occurring before Dean said a thing.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 18:54:05
I was under the impression they showed accounts at the meeting with the trust

Oh OK, ta. Will try and look around the Trust site later.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Honkytonk on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 18:55:26
So why did KMac wait until, probably, the worst possible time to do a runner?

We can argue about everything else, but this is hardly the worst possible time to do a runner.

That'd be just before the January window closes so we have to scrabble about for whatever transfers or loans come our way. I can't imagine anyone who'd be so self-obesessed they'd do that though, leaving us in the lurch.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Cibocchi_Is_God on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 18:58:03
I'm slightly skeptical as to the reasons of KMac resigning, but there is no concrete evidence to say it's the fault of the board, their transfer policy or whatever. On that basis I'm reserving judgement until the real reasons KMac decided to resign come out. The fickleness of some astounds me, the same people who were praising the board last week and abusing KMac a few months back are now the ones who are panicking.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 18:58:12
Not even close to the point Batch. The meltdown was occurring before Dean said a thing.

Sorry. I thought you were referring to the reaction to Dean's comment.

The "meltdown" then is presumably the way a fair few people, myself included, have wondered if KMac left because of board interference and/or the potential state of the squad.

I think this highlights the need for clarity, as I don't think its an unreasonable conclusion to make given KMACs "don't know what is happening yet" regarding what kind of squad we will have come start of season, and a very heavy link with Spurs.

If the manager has left because he didn't like being a manager rather than specifically due to the recruitment policy then yeah, not as big a deal.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DRS on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 19:01:03
Thats kind of my point,if Kmac comes out and says it was personal how many will believe it


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 19:02:16
Got to take it at face value, but I see your point that many wouldn't. It would be useful if he explicitly said it wasn't to do with recruitment policy/board members though (and social media criticism).


Title: Re: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 19:02:22
All of this shit that keeps happening just makes me care less and less about STFC. As a result,  I have no real feelings about MacDonald's departure other than surprise.

Whoever is our next manager will only let us all down eventually.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DiV on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 19:03:54
For fuck's sake.

All was positive after the business plan presentation yet after the manager resigns, whom was not even rated by many, they board are now a bunch of crooks again?

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Our manager has decided a few weeks before the new season starts he can no longer work for STFC.

Now, until KMac states his reason - then there is an infinite number of possible reasons why he resigned.

Its not outside the realms of possibility that these reasons are due to board members and/or transfer dealings. It could of course all be personal reasons. We will probably never know.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DiV on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 19:05:06
Sorry, my actual point

I think its a fair reaction to question just why the fuck our manager has decided to quit...


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 19:06:24
Whoever is our next manager will only let us all down eventually.

Ha, see, you are getting old Sonic. That's what happens. You realise managers are either:
 - really good - they get poached and leave
 - really crap - they get sacked and leave
 - average-competant, building a squad over time - The fans get bored and put pressure on the board due to 'lack of progress', then they sack the manager.

That's why the last couple of years have been literally exceptional. Until Black gave up.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: SwindonOldie on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 19:06:51
Les Ferdinand now 5/6


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 19:07:20
For fuck's sake.

All was positive after the business plan presentation yet after the manager resigns, whom was not even rated by many, they board are now a bunch of crooks again?

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Eh? I didn't say the board were a bunch of crooks, just asked DRS what this "proof" was that dispelled the "potless/crooks" stuff. Which I'd like to see as much as anyone. FWIW, I don't think they are crooks, but they do seem to be potless and more than a little hapless.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 19:07:56
We can argue about everything else, but this is hardly the worst possible time to do a runner.

That'd be just before the January window closes so we have to scrabble about for whatever transfers or loans come our way. I can't imagine anyone who'd be so self-obesessed they'd do that though, leaving us in the lurch.
Excuse me if I am wrong but I am fairly certain we had a manager throughout January and had 3 players at the ground all but signed untill the football league had their say.

If every manager who resigned here left us top of the league with less than 3 months of the season to play I would not have too many complaints.

Bizzare post.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 19:11:39
Les Ferdinand now 5/6
He applied for the job when Kmac got it so I expect this is a reasonable suggestion when you add in the Spurs connection.


Title: Re: Re: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 19:12:48
Ha, see, you are getting old Sonic. That's what happens. You realise managers are either:
 - really good - they get poached and leave
 - really crap - they get sacked and leave
 - average-competant, building a squad over time - The fans get bored and put pressure on the board due to 'lack of progress', then they sack the manager.

That's why the last couple of years have been literally exceptional. Until Black gave up.
I have never felt an affinity with a manager since Iffy and he was shite


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 19:14:14
Eh? I didn't say the board were a bunch of crooks, just asked DRS what this "proof" was that dispelled the "potless/crooks" stuff. Which I'd like to see as much as anyone. FWIW, I don't think they are crooks, but they do seem to be potless and more than a little hapless.

I wasn't responding directly to your post directly and I should have said 'crooks and/or incompetent'. My post just happened to follow yours.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nemo on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 19:16:26
I have never felt an affinity with a manager since Iffy and he was shite

Similarly, I loved Iffy (I suppose because of my age, he's pretty much the first player I remember) and the fact that he did so badly put me off ex-players as I don't want any memories ruined.

I'd take Ferdinand considering a lot of the names mentioned. I think the key thing is that we need a really quick appointment.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 19:16:42
Les Ferdinand now 5/6

No idea why but Sir Les as manager would make me very happy!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Honkytonk on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 19:16:47
Excuse me if I am wrong but I am fairly certain we had a manager throughout January and had 3 players at the ground all but signed untill the football league had their say.

If every manager who resigned here left us top of the league with less than 3 months of the season to play I would not have too many complaints.

Bizzare post.

Tee hee. :fishing:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 19:18:27
No idea why but Sir Les as manager would make me very happy!
That would cement our link as Spurs development team. Would we still be Swindon Town?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 19:19:34
I wasn't responding directly to your post directly and I should have said 'crooks and/or incompetent'. My post just happened to follow yours.
Sorry, assumed you were. FWIW though I don't know that there's been a "meltdown" per se, but I can see why folks might be a touch concerned, just when things seemed to be settling down a little. Ho hum, that's the Swindon Town rollercoaster


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 19:19:52
That would cement our link as Spurs development team. Would we still be Swindon Town?
Wiltshire Hotspur Allstars


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Cibocchi_Is_God on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 19:21:22
Although I am pleased with the link to Spurs (to some extent) I would prefer it we do manage to sign a few non ex-Spurs players, hopefully any new manager we appoint has thee nous and contacts to pull a few decent signings out of the bag before the start of the season.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 19:31:23
Wiltshire Hotspur Allstars

Swindon Gettingwarmerspur FC (FC = football creche)

If we get Sir Les will we be the only club apart from Man. U to have been managed by a knight of the realm?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 19:36:33
Swindon Gettingwarmerspur FC (FC = football creche)

If we get Sir Les will we be the only club apart from Man. U to have been managed by a knight of the realm?

Technically he's only an MBE isn't he?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ronnie21 on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 19:37:36
I was under the impression they showed accounts at the meeting with the trust
Not sure whether it was accounts - I wasn't there - but they certainly showed a document indicating there was money in the accounts, and a reasonable sum apparently!  This point about showing a document was reiterated on Wednesday evening.  Have we had the Trust's take on the situation yet?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 19:39:08
Technically he's only an MBE isn't he?

Well, he can sod off then!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: BruceChatwin on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 19:39:48
I could get behind Sir Les.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Benzel on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 19:40:54
Yeah fuck it, why not.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 19:48:25
Kind of irrelevant but doesn't Ferdinad fly everywhere in a helicopter?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Arriba on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 20:29:01
Ferdinand or anyone else from the spurs boot room can get fucked.
We are Swindon town,not spurs development.
Getting all their kids is bad enough,let alone their coaches too.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: leefer on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 20:31:33
Kind of irrelevant but doesn't Ferdinad fly everywhere in a helicopter?

Yep,he is a fully qualified pilot....Jan Fjortoft tried to get his pilot licence but he never ever got off the ground.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: kerry red on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 20:36:35
Obviously at some time the board will know who they will appoint

Why don't they just lump on with whatever is in the coffers?

Financial problems vanish!!!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DRS on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 20:37:51
Ferdinand or anyone else from the spurs boot room can get fucked.
We are Swindon town,not spurs development.
Getting all their kids is bad enough,let alone their coaches too.

Who would you give it to


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 20:42:21
I know some Premier League clubs have, in the past, suggested that they would like to have their 'B' team within the Football League (which I am against)... I wonder if this is Spurs' way around it.

A maximum of four loanees plus selling players with buy-back clauses and they've cracked it.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Arriba on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 20:46:04
Who would you give it to
no idea. I am more concerned at why the manager we did have has fucked off. And why our squad is so weak and full of spurs kids.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: kerry red on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 20:53:15
I expect Watford fans were asking the same questions last year when they were overrun with an influx of Italian reserves


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: RobertT on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 21:17:34
Meh, didn't do too badly the last time we relied on a Spurs contingent from Manager down.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Arriba on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 21:28:34
Meh, didn't do too badly the last time we relied on a Spurs contingent from Manager down.
when was that? Please don't say hoddle. Clubs situation miles apart. He came from france too.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: RobertT on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 21:40:33
Hoddle brought in a fair few players from his ex club.  I know it's a different situation but I have no doubts a few favours were called in, it always happens.  Difference here is that the Manager bit is missing.

Probably forget some of them, or show myself to be a tit by getting the wrong era, but:

Hoddle
Hazard
Moncur
Galvin
Close (came in under Ardiles didn't he, agan of Spurs, although don't think he was direct from Spurs?)
Gray

Anyway, neither here nor there.  The players coming is not an issue if they are good enough and it's for all the right reasons.  Whether that is the case is pure speculation for now, but Spurs have a stated aim of giving players between 18 and 21 loans to get matches under the belt as part of their development.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 21:42:59
Galvin was an Ossie signing.

All the players above had more experience than the guys we've got.

The Spurs thing doesn't concern me, mangerial stability does.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 21:48:34
Hoddle brought in a fair few players from his ex club.  I know it's a different situation but I have no doubts a few favours were called in, it always happens.  Difference here is that the Manager bit is missing.

Probably forget some of them, or show myself to be a tit by getting the wrong era, but:

Hoddle
Hazard
Moncur
Galvin
Close (came in under Ardiles didn't he, agan of Spurs, although don't think he was direct from Spurs?)
Gray

Anyway, neither here nor there.  The players coming is not an issue if they are good enough and it's for all the right reasons.  Whether that is the case is pure speculation for now, but Spurs have a stated aim of giving players between 18 and 21 loans to get matches under the belt as part of their development.
Close, Hoddle, Hazard were signed from other clubs. Macari did the same with ManU - digby, Coyne etc.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 21:52:05
The loans are fine if we have the option to drop them if they're shite. If we're signed up to play them every week regardless of form then that's a worry. I'm sure we will soon see.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 21:58:15
I think the issue is if the loans don't work out, we don't really have other players to fall back on.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: RobertT on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 21:59:13
My point is having a bunch of players who have played together may not be a bad thing (time will tell on ability).  Managers tend to go for players they know.

The thing that needs clarifying is whether this is a policy of using a good relationship with a club to our advantage or something more structural. We have signed a few non Spurs players, so my gut tells me it's Power and Sherwood working together on mates favours, and that doesn't cause me much concern.  Having a shit squad would do, so ultimately it depends on the quality.  Reports from Spurs fans suggest we have the best ones available, rather than their Jamie Slabbers this time.

Oh, and I'll be the first in line to kick off if it turns out to be some underhand money making scheme for the top dogs involved, not least because I despise Spurs.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DiV on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 22:14:22
Hoddle brought in a fair few players from his ex club.  I know it's a different situation but I have no doubts a few favours were called in, it always happens.  Difference here is that the Manager bit is missing.

Probably forget some of them, or show myself to be a tit by getting the wrong era, but:

Hoddle
Hazard
Moncur
Galvin
Close (came in under Ardiles didn't he, agan of Spurs, although don't think he was direct from Spurs?)
Gray

Anyway, neither here nor there.  The players coming is not an issue if they are good enough and it's for all the right reasons.  Whether that is the case is pure speculation for now, but Spurs have a stated aim of giving players between 18 and 21 loans to get matches under the belt as part of their development.

They were all permanent signings were they not?

Thus meaning whilst they were at STFC they were employed by STFC and STFC could in effect do what they wanted with them.

Completely different to having half our first team all employed by another club


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DiV on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 22:17:32
  Managers tend to go for players they

...yep and despite this we've not bought in a single ex Aston Villa youth teamer have we?

Or rather did we under KMacs tenure.



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Benzel on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 22:57:09
...yep and despite this we've not bought in a single ex Aston Villa youth teamer have we?

Or rather did we under KMacs tenure.



The only one he managed to get hold of was Devine..


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Berniman on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 23:12:52
All of this shit that keeps happening just makes me care less and less about STFC. As a result,  I have no real feelings about MacDonald's departure other than surprise.

Whoever is our next manager will only let us all down eventually.

This sums things up perfectly for me....


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DiV on Sunday, July 14, 2013, 23:13:14
The only one he managed to get hold of was Devine..

....has he even signed?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, July 15, 2013, 07:50:51
Yep,he is a fully qualified pilot....Jan Fjortoft tried to get his pilot licence but he never ever got off the ground.
I appreciated your pun even if nobody else did! :D


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: iffy on Monday, July 15, 2013, 08:42:46
All of this shit that keeps happening just makes me care less and less about STFC. As a result,  I have no real feelings about MacDonald's departure other than surprise.

Whoever is our next manager will only let us all down eventually.

Yep. Increasingly, I don't really care one way or the other anymore.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: lambourn red on Monday, July 15, 2013, 09:57:44
I must admit I am feeling more and more apathy towards the club, in past years i would have been straight down to the club to book my ST seats for the Spurs game but I just cant get excited about anything that is happening at STFC at the moment . I am trying to remain optimistic about the future but you cant help but think this current period of our history is all going to end in tears.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Tails on Monday, July 15, 2013, 10:29:10
Hmm. I don't get it. You don't care as much because things aren't going well? I think that says more about the individual really.

I've seen so much written on here about how the fans are the lifeblood of any football team, ours in particular, yet now, because things aren't as we'd like at our club (which let's face it has been a soap opera for the best part of 25 years now) we can't be bothered? Paolo was slammed for walking when 'things got a bit tough'. What's the difference? If we're this apathetic towards our club then really.. we don't deserve one.

I feel a bit low about everything, and I am as concerned as the next fan but jeeeez I'll still be there supporting the team!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: lambourn red on Monday, July 15, 2013, 10:46:30
Hmm. I don't get it. You don't care as much because things aren't going well? I think that says more about the individual really.

I've seen so much written on here about how the fans are the lifeblood of any football team, ours in particular, yet now, because things aren't as we'd like at our club (which let's face it has been a soap opera for the best part of 25 years now) we can't be bothered? Paolo was slammed for walking when 'things got a bit tough'. What's the difference? If we're this apathetic towards our club then really.. we don't deserve one.

I feel a bit low about everything, and I am as concerned as the next fan but jeeeez I'll still be there supporting the team!

I have been a ST holder for over 20 years and I will still be in my seat come the first game of the season so please dont tar me with the brush of a fair weather supporter. I was one of the sorry souls who witnessed our lowest ever league attendance in the mid 80's against Darlington so I think I have suffered plenty in the name of STFC but I just cannot get enthused about anything to do with STFC at the moment the whole thing has an air of inevitability about it but I will still be there on a cold tuesday night in december.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: iffy on Monday, July 15, 2013, 10:49:56
Hmm. I don't get it. You don't care as much because things aren't going well? I think that says more about the individual really.

I've seen so much written on here about how the fans are the lifeblood of any football team, ours in particular, yet now, because things aren't as we'd like at our club (which let's face it has been a soap opera for the best part of 25 years now) we can't be bothered? Paolo was slammed for walking when 'things got a bit tough'. What's the difference? If we're this apathetic towards our club then really.. we don't deserve one.

I feel a bit low about everything, and I am as concerned as the next fan but jeeeez I'll still be there supporting the team!

This inevitable 'get behind the club' bollocks is boring as well. The club seems to doomed to be run by idiots, lurching from crisis to crisis, pausing only for moments of ineptitude. One shower of shit follows another, and you begin to wonder whether it's all worth it.

It's not even about whether the team is doing well or not. It's the inevitable mixture of structural incompetence and sheer bloody bad luck that leaves people just not giving a shit. It makes it all seem unimportant.

Once upon a time, I'm sure there was pride to be had in being the most die-hard fan. Insults like 'part-timer', or suggesting being disillusioned 'says more about you' mattered once, probably. These days, it makes you look a little bit sad, like someone still pleased they were toughest kid at secondary school.

That said, if you can muster up any enthusiasm not only for the coming season, but the next five, then I do envy you.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tj2002 on Monday, July 15, 2013, 11:03:50
I've started to see STFC as a soap opera that I've got a vested interest in. Apathy is understandable as unfortunately there's very little we as fans can do in situations like this apart from keep asking questions and seeing how it all looks in a few months time. I always thank my old man filler giving me a team like Swindon to follow rather than someone dull like Northampton or Burnley or Wycombe. At least it's never dull.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Monday, July 15, 2013, 11:05:25
run by idiots, lurching from crisis to crisis, pausing only for moments of ineptitude
Never mind "Salubritas et Industria", I give you our new club motto :)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nemo on Monday, July 15, 2013, 11:05:59
Never mind "Salubritas et Industria", I give you our new club motto :)

Could we get that on the badge?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Monday, July 15, 2013, 11:08:48
Could we get that on the badge?
It's translating it into Latin I'm more worried about tbh


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Monday, July 15, 2013, 11:09:21
I have been a ST holder for over 20 years and I will still be in my seat come the first game of the season so please dont tar me with the brush of a fair weather supporter. I was one of the sorry souls who witnessed our lowest ever league attendance in the mid 80's against Darlington so I think I have suffered plenty in the name of STFC but I just cannot get enthused about anything to do with STFC at the moment the whole thing has an air of inevitability about it but I will still be there on a cold tuesday night in december.

Some people seem more resilient to the never ending cycle of 'disaster disaster disaster triumph disaster..' than others.
I am not sure when it changed for me, but it did. "Inevitability" sums  up my mood, which could of course be wrong, but I've somehow been worn down.

However there isn't any danger of not going yet. More that I can now see how that could happen, whereas  I once found it inconceivable.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: herthab on Monday, July 15, 2013, 11:11:01
fatuis currunt, lurching de discrimine ad crisim, intercapedinem tantum momenta ineptitudinem.

(It's only Google translate, so probably wrong).


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Gnasher on Monday, July 15, 2013, 11:13:02
This is just how I feel. 2013 has been a complete embarrassment for STFC and I've lost interest in watching us play. So that's one season ticket holder of 23 years you've lost Jed (I know it's not all your fault).

This inevitable 'get behind the club' bollocks is boring as well. The club seems to doomed to be run by idiots, lurching from crisis to crisis, pausing only for moments of ineptitude. One shower of shit follows another, and you begin to wonder whether it's all worth it.

It's not even about whether the team is doing well or not. It's the inevitable mixture of structural incompetence and sheer bloody bad luck that leaves people just not giving a shit. It makes it all seem unimportant.

Once upon a time, I'm sure there was pride to be had in being the most die-hard fan. Insults like 'part-timer', or suggesting being disillusioned 'says more about you' mattered once, probably. These days, it makes you look a little bit sad, like someone still pleased they were toughest kid at secondary school.

That said, if you can muster up any enthusiasm not only for the coming season, but the next five, then I do envy you.



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Monday, July 15, 2013, 11:20:02
fatuis currunt, lurching de discrimine ad crisim, intercapedinem tantum momenta ineptitudinem.

(It's only Google translate, so probably wrong).
You do know "lurching" isn't an actual Latin word don't you? :)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: herthab on Monday, July 15, 2013, 11:20:04
This is just how I feel. 2013 has been a complete embarrassment for STFC and I've lost interest in watching us play. So that's one season ticket holder of 23 years you've lost Jed (I know it's not all your fault).


Hahaha. That is just so over the top. We've been more embarrassing than this before! If you can't summon up the enthusiasm to go, fine. But surely there's other reasons apart from the club being embarrassing?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: 4D on Monday, July 15, 2013, 11:20:26
fatuis currunt, lurching de discrimine ad crisim, intercapedinem tantum momenta ineptitudinem.

(It's only Google translate, so probably wrong).

Quod so sic est sempiterna :)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, July 15, 2013, 11:21:09
fatuis currunt, lurching de discrimine ad crisim, intercapedinem tantum momenta ineptitudinem.

(It's only Google translate, so probably wrong).

Using my 'O' Level in Latin for the first time since 1968, when I took it tells me lurching isn't a Latin word.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: herthab on Monday, July 15, 2013, 11:21:12
You do know "lurching" isn't an actual Latin word don't you? :)

Google translate isn't the most accurate!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, July 15, 2013, 11:25:05
The club seems to doomed to be run by idiots, lurching from crisis to crisis, pausing only for moments of ineptitude. One shower of shit follows another, and you begin to wonder whether it's all worth it.


Yet most who attended the presentations last week seemed presently surprised by the plans of the new board, then the manager leaves for whatever reason we don't know and thats it they are clueless idiots again?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: herthab on Monday, July 15, 2013, 11:27:02
Yet most who attended the presentations last week seemed presently surprised by the plans of the new board, then the manager leaves for whatever reason we don't know and thats it they are clueless idiots again?
How dare you post something that's balanced in such a logical and reasoned way?

No place for your sort here.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Riddick on Monday, July 15, 2013, 11:27:33
Yet most who attended the presentations last week seemed presently surprised by the plans of the new board, then the manager leaves for whatever reason we don't know and thats it they are clueless idiots again?

I agree with this

We don't know why the manager left, we are speculating entirely. He had a poor record at the end of last year, seemed to fit with the philosophy this year but onwards and upwards i think. Hope it gets sorted quickly, especially before they go to portugal on sunday


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, July 15, 2013, 11:27:39
How dare you post something that's balanced in such a logical and reasoned way?

No place for your sort here.
I know, I am just getting my coat!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: kerry red on Monday, July 15, 2013, 11:30:25
Some people seem more resilient to the never ending cycle of 'disaster disaster disaster triumph disaster..' than others.
I am not sure when it changed for me, but it did. "Inevitability" sums  up my mood, which could of course be wrong, but I've somehow been worn down.

However there isn't any danger of not going yet. More that I can now see how that could happen, whereas  I once found it inconceivable.

The reason you feel worn down is these forums.

Before, you probably had to make do with a good moan with your mates - now it'S wall to wall, 24 7 barrage from all and sundry.

You are not alone - we all feel to some extent, worn out by these shenanigans


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Arriba on Monday, July 15, 2013, 11:37:01
Yet most who attended the presentations last week seemed presently surprised by the plans of the new board, then the manager leaves for whatever reason we don't know and thats it they are clueless idiots again?
People are too trusting when hearing what they want to hear. There is no evidence that the current board are competant,but plenty to the contrary.
Reckon Kmac was fed bullshit prior to coming in which in time didn't go to plan. He can see the club is a mess and has fucked off.

The only thing that will see me back on a regular basis is a complete change in the clubs structure. We go from one bunch of cunts playing at running a football club to others doing the same. Fans are just pawns in their ego boosting games. Doesn't sit well with me at all. I continually read posts from fans being happy to have a club-so and so saved us etc.  It's like fans are turning into dogs rolling over on their back to have their bellies rubbed submissively by the board.
This cycle of shit is enough to turn anyone off going. Likewise i fully  understand why people do go. It's a habit that can be hard to break.

I used to be someone who hated missing games. Now i can't even muster up the desire to even take up free tickets.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Gnasher on Monday, July 15, 2013, 11:37:25
Hahaha. That is just so over the top. We've been more embarrassing than this before! If you can't summon up the enthusiasm to go, fine. But surely there's other reasons apart from the club being embarrassing?

The cost doesn't help! But no, I've seen plenty of shit over past couple of decades and kept going. I've worn the orange hat, done the 1st not 3rd protest, but now I'm just fed up with all the boardroom bullshit. Who knows, my enthusiasm may return.


Title: Re: Re: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, July 15, 2013, 11:51:46
Hmm. I don't get it. You don't care as much because things aren't going well? I think that says more about the individual really.

I've seen so much written on here about how the fans are the lifeblood of any football team, ours in particular, yet now, because things aren't as we'd like at our club (which let's face it has been a soap opera for the best part of 25 years now) we can't be bothered? Paolo was slammed for walking when 'things got a bit tough'. What's the difference? If we're this apathetic towards our club then really.. we don't deserve one.

I feel a bit low about everything, and I am as concerned as the next fan but jeeeez I'll still be there supporting the team!
I have been a part timer at best for a few years. I don't feel inclined to spend money I can't afford on something that nearly always ends in disappointment. I felt uncomfortable throughout Paolo's time in charge and didn't enjoy it as much as I would have done otherwise. 

I still care, obviously,  otherwise I wouldn't comment but I just feel apathetic towards managerial changes, supposed crises and the rest. I guess it's a type of fatigue combined with altered priorities.

I'm looking forward to the new season and seeing how things pan out, whether we are awful or spring a few surprises it'll be exciting.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: iffy on Monday, July 15, 2013, 11:53:13
Yet most who attended the presentations last week seemed presently surprised by the plans of the new board, then the manager leaves for whatever reason we don't know and thats it they are clueless idiots again?

I think everyone must have just missed the slide in the presentation titled "Key staff resigning next week"


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: derbystfc on Monday, July 15, 2013, 11:55:30
Its time for the usual swindon cycle of shit after a few good years, We know when we are properly in the shit when Shah appears in the team photo!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: singingiiiffy on Monday, July 15, 2013, 12:03:56
Fuck me there is some depressive shit on this forum. I reckon this... he probably quit because...no one knows ffs. I honestly couldn't care either, its not ideal this close to the season but kmac had done nothing but frustrate me since he arrived anyway. He is a good youth manager but in his short spell he did nothing to show me that he could make it as a manager. Whereas, some of those names listed would bring back the buzz, with the amount of new players we were always unlikely to start the season strong and imagine the abuse he would have got then. I'm much more excited for a change bring it on


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Riddick on Monday, July 15, 2013, 12:24:30
Back on topic, Les Ferdinands odds have shortened a little further today. Thoughts on if he is the one to takeover?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Monday, July 15, 2013, 12:25:36
People are too trusting when hearing what they want to hear. There is no evidence that the current board are competant,but plenty to the contrary.
Reckon Kmac was fed bullshit prior to coming in which in time didn't go to plan. He can see the club is a mess and has fucked off.

The only thing that will see me back on a regular basis is a complete change in the clubs structure. We go from one bunch of cunts playing at running a football club to others doing the same. Fans are just pawns in their ego boosting games. Doesn't sit well with me at all. I continually read posts from fans being happy to have a club-so and so saved us etc.  It's like fans are turning into dogs rolling over on their back to have their bellies rubbed submissively by the board.
This cycle of shit is enough to turn anyone off going. Likewise i fully  understand why people do go. It's a habit that can be hard to break.

I used to be someone who hated missing games. Now i can't even muster up the desire to even take up free tickets.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you haven't been a regular for years have you?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Monday, July 15, 2013, 12:26:05
Back on topic, Les Ferdinands odds have shortened a little further today. Thoughts on if he is the one to takeover?

The LMA would be delighted.  

Second non white manager I think.  Chris Powell springs straight to mind.  Might be others.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, July 15, 2013, 12:29:15
The LMA would be delighted.  

Second non white manager I think.  Chris Powell springs straight to mind.  Might be others.
uuuuurm Iffy Onoura?

Keith Alexander is another.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Monday, July 15, 2013, 12:29:43
uuuuurm Iffy Onoura?

I meant currently in a job.  Is Iffy in a job?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Arriba on Monday, July 15, 2013, 12:29:53
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you haven't been a regular for years have you?
I'd last describe myself as a regular them Wilson play off season. Been a part timer since. Expect to be a stay away from now on. No pull there for me anymore to attend.

If the club was re-born from scratch I reckon I'd have the hunger back.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Panda Paws on Monday, July 15, 2013, 12:29:59
Chris Hughton


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Monday, July 15, 2013, 12:30:15
The LMA would be delighted. 

Second non white manager I think.  Chris Powell springs straight to mind.  Might be others.

Chris Kiwomya at Notts County.

Going back to giving famous ex players a go in management is nice, although being a Spurs stooge, can he be trusted?

(http://lunaticoutpost.com/usersmiles/graphic/images/2011/March/12/3F78_4D7B8618.jpg)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, July 15, 2013, 12:31:16
I meant currently in a job.  Is Iffy in a job?
Ah currently in a job no. Paul Ince certainly is though.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Monday, July 15, 2013, 12:32:05
A few more than I remembered then.

Sir Les could maybe do a job up front for us.  I'd back him over Andy Williams any day of the week.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, July 15, 2013, 12:33:21
I personally would happily take Chris Ramsey with or without the Spurs link if its an upcoming new manager who has a track record working with youngsters, but yes Sir Les would be pretty good too..


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, July 15, 2013, 12:33:53
Back on topic, Les Ferdinands odds have shortened a little further today. Thoughts on if he is the one to takeover?

Good name...no real experience other than playing and would come from a background a world away from most of our players. If it works, he'll fuck off asap if it doesn't he can prob afford to walk. On argument goes if he fucks off, no matter as he'll leave you in a stronger position...most seem to think that PdC contradicts this.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Berniman on Monday, July 15, 2013, 12:34:50
Ah currently in a job no. Paul Ince certainly is though.

Iffy works for the PFA.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Monday, July 15, 2013, 12:38:11
Arriba your point about the board works both ways. Ive seen nothing thus far to suggest theu are dodgy crooks apart from a thisis poster who apparently claimed to provide evidence to the trust.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Tails on Monday, July 15, 2013, 12:42:12
Ferdinand would be an interesting one. We seem to back (fairly) recently retired ex-players quite well and he's certainly had great experience as a player. I would hope that players like Storey would benefit massively from his arrival.

Only downside is it takes us one step closer to becoming Swindon Hotspurs. I'm all for taking their young talent but to take their coaches too?? I've noticed he is only a 'Forward coach' at Spurs as well. Would we need a 'Defence coach' to be appointed alongisde him?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, July 15, 2013, 12:42:43
Has Les done badges and all that stuff?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Berniman on Monday, July 15, 2013, 12:43:58
Hmm. I don't get it. You don't care as much because things aren't going well? I think that says more about the individual really.

I've seen so much written on here about how the fans are the lifeblood of any football team, ours in particular, yet now, because things aren't as we'd like at our club (which let's face it has been a soap opera for the best part of 25 years now) we can't be bothered? Paolo was slammed for walking when 'things got a bit tough'. What's the difference? If we're this apathetic towards our club then really.. we don't deserve one.

I feel a bit low about everything, and I am as concerned as the next fan but jeeeez I'll still be there supporting the team!

You have managed to translate somebody who states they are investing less emotional value into what is going on at the club at the moment into somebody that will not be supporting the team.

Good work.  That is almost the happy clapper arguement all over again.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Tails on Monday, July 15, 2013, 12:45:58
Happy Clapper and fucking proud mate.

Yes Ferdinand has his badges, according an article from Stan Collymore I read earlier. Will try and find a link.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, July 15, 2013, 12:46:06
Has Les done badges and all that stuff?
I believe he has yes.

http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/130608/exclusive-%E2%80%93-les-ferdinand-slams-fa-over-inaccessible-coaching-courses-199262


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, July 15, 2013, 12:49:15
Sir Les comes across as an affable chap, who comes from a traditional extended English footballing family, with historic Spurs connections a bit like Les Allen.... ;)

My main worry would be when he arrives at Calne for training in his chopper, the inhabitants might respond by forming a Melanesian style cargo cult.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Arriba on Monday, July 15, 2013, 12:53:13
Arriba your point about the board works both ways. Ive seen nothing thus far to suggest theu are dodgy crooks apart from a thisis poster who apparently claimed to provide evidence to the trust.
all depends how people interpret things. I accept your point though. Personally think many are showing blind faith. Nothing wrong with that as without hope there's no point to anything. I just am naturally more pessimistic by nature I suppose.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Tails on Monday, July 15, 2013, 12:54:23
Sir Les comes across as an affable chap, who comes from a traditional extended English footballing family, with historic Spurs connections a bit like Les Allen.... ;)

My main worry would be when he arrives at Calne for training in his chopper, the inhabitants might respond by forming a Melanesian style cargo cult.

Haha, superb.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DRS on Monday, July 15, 2013, 12:55:54
One for Reg,if Sir Les is appointed are we the first club to have had two black managers


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DRS on Monday, July 15, 2013, 12:57:01
all depends how people interpret things. I accept your point though. Personally think many are showing blind faith. Nothing wrong with that as without hope there's no point to anything. I just am naturally more pessimistic by nature I suppose.
I think your Arsenal bias is coming out  ;)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Monday, July 15, 2013, 12:58:42
Sir Les comes across as an affable chap, who comes from a traditional extended English footballing family, with historic Spurs connections a bit like Les Allen.... ;)

My main worry would be when he arrives at Calne for training in his chopper, the inhabitants might respond by forming a Melanesian style cargo cult.

I don't want to worry anyone, but I did take this picture when I rode through Calne earlier.

(http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/rr38/oldmanrivers_photos/the-wicker-man.jpg) (http://media.photobucket.com/user/oldmanrivers_photos/media/the-wicker-man.jpg.html)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, July 15, 2013, 12:58:47
Sir Les comes across as an affable chap, who comes from a traditional extended English footballing family, with historic Spurs connections a bit like Les Allen.... ;)

My main worry would be when he arrives at Calne for training in his chopper, the inhabitants might respond by forming a Melanesian style cargo cult.

The last question in this article suggests he is now chopperless

http://fourfourtwo.com/interviews/one-on-one/111/article.aspx


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Arriba on Monday, July 15, 2013, 13:01:02
I think your Arsenal bias is coming out  ;)
ha. Was waiting for that. Would be equally concerned if it was arsenal using us as a development team. Well almost  :D


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Berniman on Monday, July 15, 2013, 13:06:25
Happy Clapper and fucking proud mate.

Yes Ferdinand has his badges, according an article from Stan Collymore I read earlier. Will try and find a link.

You like to misinturpret don't you.  I didn't say you were a happy clapper, but you knock yourself out and read it how you want.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Crispy on Monday, July 15, 2013, 13:10:13
No betting on it in Stan James!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Monday, July 15, 2013, 13:13:58
Skybet:

Ferdinand 8/13
Sherwood 7/1
Cooper/Pearce 16/1

20 Bar


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: kerry red on Monday, July 15, 2013, 13:15:08
Sir Les is now 8/13 with Skybet.

Trying to remember who was the hot fav before KMac got it


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Riddick on Monday, July 15, 2013, 13:16:53
1/2 at betvictor

Cant remember who was fav before Kmac, dont think any of the odds got this short though


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Monday, July 15, 2013, 13:19:48
Sir Les is now 8/13 with Skybet.

Trying to remember who was the hot fav before KMac got it

(http://thetownend.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=50664.0;attach=3967;image)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, July 15, 2013, 13:21:51
http://thetownend.com/index.php?topic=50664.1410

Page 95 of this thread suggests KMs odds got to 1/6 just prior to him being appointed.

Have a bit of a way to go yet!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: theakston2k on Monday, July 15, 2013, 13:21:58
One for Reg,if Sir Les is appointed are we the first club to have had two black managers
Ruud Gullit and Chris Hughton at Newcastle.
Paul Ince and Keith Alexander at Macclesfield.
Keith Curle and Chris Kiwomya at Notts County.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: kerry red on Monday, July 15, 2013, 13:22:09
(http://thetownend.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=50664.0;attach=3967;image)

I was think of Jimmy Floyd before KMac was a cert


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: @MacPhlea on Monday, July 15, 2013, 13:23:41
Sir Les comes across as an affable chap, who comes from a traditional extended English footballing family, with historic Spurs connections a bit like Les Allen.... ;)

My main worry would be when he arrives at Calne for training in his chopper, the inhabitants might respond by forming a Melanesian style cargo cult.
It's ok Robbie Williams has a helicopter pad in his mansion... But not much point if he hasn't got a chopper


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: kerry red on Monday, July 15, 2013, 13:24:17
Has Adkins got a job yet?

Not suggesting he would be interested in our soap opera, though


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Spud on Monday, July 15, 2013, 13:25:43
Has Adkins got a job yet?

Not suggesting he would be interested in our soap opera, though

He's been at Reading for months.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: kerry red on Monday, July 15, 2013, 13:27:16
Ah, Reading.

No wonder I took no notice

That and the Alzheimers


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Crispy on Monday, July 15, 2013, 13:39:46
Just asked our traders.. interesting..

Jordan Crisp  {Devizes 318}: Afternoon all, is there any betting on the next Swindon Town manager? Can't see any in the system on closed & live

***** (7020): we are not getting involved in this market

***** (7020): some sort of board member with stan james or Swindon has a connection with the club so we cant bet on it


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bert Heads head on Monday, July 15, 2013, 14:28:16
Robbie Fowler might be up for it.....

@Robbie9Fowler 1h
@SamMorshead_SA thanks for the offer,but don't really wanna chat about it,Would I be interested in the job? Of course I would,who wouldn't



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, July 15, 2013, 14:31:43
He has very recently completed his UEFA A Licence too.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2345771/Peter-Schmeichel-Robbie-Fowler-Nigel-Clough-UEFA-A-Licence-coaching-course.html


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nemo on Monday, July 15, 2013, 14:33:41
Of course I would,who wouldn't

I'm flattered, but I think the answer might be "really quite a lot of managers"


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Monday, July 15, 2013, 14:39:56
People are too trusting when hearing what they want to hear. There is no evidence that the current board are competant,but plenty to the contrary.
Reckon Kmac was fed bullshit prior to coming in which in time didn't go to plan. He can see the club is a mess and has fucked off.

The only thing that will see me back on a regular basis is a complete change in the clubs structure. We go from one bunch of cunts playing at running a football club to others doing the same. Fans are just pawns in their ego boosting games. Doesn't sit well with me at all. I continually read posts from fans being happy to have a club-so and so saved us etc.  It's like fans are turning into dogs rolling over on their back to have their bellies rubbed submissively by the board.
This cycle of shit is enough to turn anyone off going. Likewise i fully  understand why people do go. It's a habit that can be hard to break.

I used to be someone who hated missing games. Now i can't even muster up the desire to even take up free tickets.

(http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&docid=2pgh48hsTul8_M&tbnid=w1P9E89C5zEXMM:&ved=0CAUQjBwwADgD&url=http%3A%2F%2F8wayrun.com%2Fattachments%2F1336364959housesadnod-gif-gif.22532%2F&ei=mwnkUbKUCoKK7AbSuoCoDw&psig=AFQjCNH1iDZli9y7ZqWnmHurJtJGKOsrXw&ust=1373985563246511)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: donkey on Monday, July 15, 2013, 15:08:22
A quick question for any who knows...why is Ferdinand known as Sir Les?  I think it's the biggest issue of the day, if he's to be our new manager.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nemo on Monday, July 15, 2013, 15:15:19
A quick question for any who knows...why is Ferdinand known as Sir Les?  I think it's the biggest issue of the day, if he's to be our new manager.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/4080346.stm

QPR fans apparently.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, July 15, 2013, 15:15:49
A quick question for any who knows...why is Ferdinand known as Sir Les?  I think it's the biggest issue of the day, if he's to be our new manager.
According to Sir Les himself....
Quote
It started while I was at QPR and followed me throughout my career. I don’t know where it came from but it’s not a bad nickname to have


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: singingiiiffy on Monday, July 15, 2013, 15:22:44
I'd last describe myself as a regular them Wilson play off season. Been a part timer since. Expect to be a stay away from now on. No pull there for me anymore to attend.

If the club was re-born from scratch I reckon I'd have the hunger back.

If winning the league, a jpt final and playoff semi plus premier league fa cup scalps hasn't won you back over the last couple of years I doubt ul be attending again. Doesn't get much better for supporting a club in league 1 or 2.

I would take les or fowler without any issues. Both will have plenty of contacts and would have been idols to many of the young players we have on our books. Go get em jed, an early appointment in time for the Portugal trip will be ideal. I'm in a way pleased that no media is going, let them get on with training and get them prepared in the heat.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: LucienSanchez on Monday, July 15, 2013, 15:31:31
Jed said we'd know more today didn't he? Should we be expecting a statement of some sort?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, July 15, 2013, 15:35:56
Jed said we'd know more today didn't he? Should we be expecting a statement of some sort?

Since he said that we do know more as KMACs departure has since been confirmed.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, July 15, 2013, 15:37:20
We have a good history of appointing 'newby' managers so wouldn't be surprised if the appointment is Les. Especially with the Spurs 'link' that we have.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: LucienSanchez on Monday, July 15, 2013, 15:39:48
Since he said that we do know more as KMACs departure has since been confirmed.

Ah, right.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: china red on Monday, July 15, 2013, 15:42:25
Bet we get a manager none of us have ever heard of again


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, July 15, 2013, 15:45:48
Bet we get a manager none of us have ever heard of again


John McDermott?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: mrverve on Monday, July 15, 2013, 15:47:03
I have never understood why some fans would prefer us to start from scratch, what is the appeal? It's ludicrous.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, July 15, 2013, 15:52:02
I have never understood why some fans would prefer us to start from scratch, what is the appeal? It's ludicrous.

I can't fathom it either. I don't see the benefit.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, July 15, 2013, 15:53:19
I can't fathom it either. I don't see the benefit.
No and its never worked for us in the past.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: donkey on Monday, July 15, 2013, 16:18:28
According to Sir Les himself....

Thanks (and to Nemo).


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: smalltowngypsymassacre on Monday, July 15, 2013, 16:37:06
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFrj8hQazDc

Hopefully they don't ask him to impersonate James Bond as part of any interview process


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, July 15, 2013, 16:43:37
What's Ferdinand like as a pundit?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: @MacPhlea on Monday, July 15, 2013, 16:48:17
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFrj8hQazDc

Hopefully they don't ask him to impersonate James Bond as part of any interview process


That, my friend, is pure genius...


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: kerry red on Monday, July 15, 2013, 16:53:43
What's Ferdinand like as a pundit?

Not too good.

Apparently the strawberries keep falling off him


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Arriba on Monday, July 15, 2013, 19:39:07
No and its never worked for us in the past.
when has it happened before then?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Power to people on Monday, July 15, 2013, 19:59:50
Gary White


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Monday, July 15, 2013, 20:22:08
Not too good.

Apparently the strawberries keep falling off him

Nev would have been proud of you :)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Mother Brown on Monday, July 15, 2013, 21:31:45
That, my friend, is pure genius...
Is he still giving Danni Behr a portion?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bert Heads head on Monday, July 15, 2013, 21:52:32
Not too good.

Apparently the strawberries keep falling off him

You're wrong. The turban keeps falling off him. :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, July 15, 2013, 21:53:55
I don't get the strawberries joke....... help me out.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: RobertT on Monday, July 15, 2013, 21:55:28
I don't get the strawberries joke....... help me out.

Punnet, sounding like Pundit.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Berniman on Monday, July 15, 2013, 22:25:04
I don't get the strawberries joke....... help me out.

Oh dear BR, keep up.  I know you have been outside the strawberry loop for a while but even so...


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: london_red on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 12:31:16
Hoddle now 10/11 favourite with Skybet

 :sherlock:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Levi lapper on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 12:36:58
Hoddle now 10/11 favourite with Skybet

 :sherlock:

 :jester:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: @MacPhlea on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 12:40:14
Hoddle now 10/11 favourite with Skybet

 :sherlock:

Surely this just indicates the unrealistic views of STFC fans placing stupid bets...


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 12:49:03
Not sure hoddle is unrealistic. What with his academy he may look for a lower league club.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: kaufman on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 12:53:47
Hoddles Academy has not been running for months now. Was put on hold due to lack of funds.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 12:55:08
Hoddles Academy has not been running for months now. Was put on hold due to lack of funds.


Oh. I didn't know that


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 12:57:49
What are the latest odds on skybet? Can't get on betting sites at work.



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Levi lapper on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 13:00:43
What are the latest odds on skybet? Can't get on betting sites at work.




Next Permanent Swindon Manager
Next Permanent Manager
Glenn Hoddle 10/11
Les Ferdinand 6/4
Tim Sherwood 6/1
Stuart Pearce 16/1
Mark Cooper 18/1
Terry Butcher 20/1
Terry Connor 25/1
Neil Warnock 25/1
Robbie Fowler 25/1
Micky Mellon 25/1
Gary Megson 25/1
Martin Ling 25/1
Carl Fletcher 25/1
Dean Holdsworth 25/1
Michael Appleton 25/1
Paul Sturrock 25/1


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: kaufman on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 13:01:27
It's only listening to him on talk sport a few times. It still exists but unless i got the wrong end of the stick it's not running currently. Maybe this is the opportunity he needs? He's now favourite with the bookies. Spackman Beasant & Rix are part of his team.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 13:01:44
Thank you!

Interesting about Hoddle.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Honkytonk on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 13:02:08
Well, if Hoddle's academy isn't running, I can imagine he'd be willing to take the job. Nice to see Sherwood's odds lengthening.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Benzel on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 13:02:53
Jeez imagine Rix here after all the shit we give Pox..


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Riddick on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 13:04:11
Said all along i'd love hoddle back here, better football to be played, emphasis on bringing young players on, perfect, hope its true


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Ardiles on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 13:07:49
Jeez imagine Rix here after all the shit we give Pox..

...bringing Julian Alsopp with him as Assistant, I'm hearing.

(I'm not really.)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Levi lapper on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 13:08:15
Said all along i'd love hoddle back here, better football to be played, emphasis on bringing young players on, perfect, hope its true

It would win the majority of fans over (barring a couple unforgiving types) certainly the best player I have ever seen in a town shirt. Still can't see it but hope I'm wrong.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 13:09:25
It would win the majority of fans over (barring a couple unforgiving types) certainly the best player I have ever seen in a town shirt. Still can't see it but hope I'm wrong.

It might also shift a few season tickets. I don't think it will happen, what do they say? Never go back?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Ardiles on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 13:10:25
It would win the majority of fans over (barring a couple unforgiving types) certainly the best player I have ever seen in a town shirt. Still can't see it but hope I'm wrong.

A lot of water under the bridge since he left us for Chelsea.  Getting on for half of the fanbase won't even have been around then, and most of the rest would have let it go by now.  It's not like we're discussing the possibility of Steve McMahon coming back.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 13:16:32
Well, if Hoddle's academy isn't running, I can imagine he'd be willing to take the job. Nice to see Sherwood's odds lengthening.
Hoddle is looking for a managers job in England thats quite common knowledge. He had applied for the Brighton and Wolves managers jobs recently.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Honkytonk on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 13:21:34
It might also shift a few season tickets. I don't think it will happen, what do they say? Never go back?

Few shirts too I'd imagine. I'd be tempted, even though I got a new one last year and normally wear them to the death. The man's too much of an STFC legend to not even think about it.

And we can only hope he'd do a Gary Johnson at Yeovil, (spits on floor) not a Schumacher.



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: jimmy_onions on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 13:34:53
at the moment interest in the club is at an all time low for me, and apathy at an all time high.

Fickle I know, but a hoddle esque appointment would certainly get the buzz back around the club.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Riddick on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 13:38:29
Morsheads latest tweet suggests there may be something to hoddle rumour. At least thats how i'm reading it


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 13:43:11
Hope he brings in Eileen Drewery as well -

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/aug/21/gary-neville-england-glenn-hoddle

He'll look to play good football and is an excellent technical coach as well.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 13:43:34

Fickle I know, but a hoddle esque appointment would certainly get the buzz back around the club.

Same. Would be bloody brilliant to have him back, bringing through technically gifted English players that have perhaps been discarded by others for being too small etc.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 13:48:53
Appointing Hoddle would get me straight down the ground to buy a season ticket.

Won't happen though.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: china red on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 13:50:25
Would Gorman come out of retirement


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Riddick on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 13:51:18
Chang says it wont happen, perfect news. Hoddle it is!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: london_red on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 13:51:42
Appointing Hoddle would get me straight down the ground to buy a season ticket.

Won't happen though.

Quoted for posterity.

Don't get how your support of a club can be so conditional though.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 13:52:09
Appointing Hoddle would get me straight down the ground to buy a season ticket.

Won't happen though.

Is that an official Chang prediction?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Levi lapper on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 13:52:59
Would Gorman come out of retirement

Hazard, Ling and moncur running the midfield again, jumpers for goalposts, owffff isn't it?

I think I'm getting slightly carried away.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 13:53:46
Is that an official Chang prediction?
Indeed it is.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 13:53:59
Would Gorman come out of retirement

Unlikely. This was him after he announced his retirement.

 - I've had one or two health issues which restrict what I can do on the training ground.

"I've enjoyed a long, long time in the game but sometimes you have to realise the decision needs to be made, so I did it for the benefit of everybody."



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: jimmy_onions on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 13:54:22
Quoted for posterity.

Don't get how your support of a club can be so conditional though.

I do, I said pretty much the same thing a few posts up.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 13:59:59
Shaun Close for striker coach


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 14:01:14
Wait, Hoddle might actually happen?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: woolster on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 14:03:28
Appointing Hoddle would get me straight down the ground to buy a season ticket.

Won't happen though.
Glory hunter


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: london_red on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 14:03:59
I do, I said pretty much the same thing a few posts up.


Fair enough, I'm not criticising anyone for following the club however they want just have a different view on it personally.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 14:05:42
Wait, Hoddle might actually happen?

Quote
Sam Morshead ‏@SamMorshead_SA 36m
@cremin98 I don't want to get you too excited so I'm not going to say either way just yet.

Seems to be a possibility, unless I'm reading too much into it.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Barry Scott on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 14:18:41
I've not read the thread, so don't know if it's been mentioned, but if Nijholt applies, as he's rumoured to always do, I'd like him.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Tails on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 14:21:31
I'd still save judgement even if we appointed Hoddle. Obviously there will be the initial excitement... But Oxford fans were excited when Jim Smith returned, and look what happened there!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: fuzzy on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 14:24:49
Unlikely. This was him after he announced his retirement.

 - I've had one or two health issues which restrict what I can do on the training ground.

"I've enjoyed a long, long time in the game but sometimes you have to realise the decision needs to be made, so I did it for the benefit of everybody."



Bumped into JG a few months back in London- SWMBO and I walking along Piccadilly and spy a bloke walking towards us who we both think- I know him. he looks at us looking at him and suddenly it twigs- John bloody Gorman! Result. Stop him for a chat and he takes the time for us. We reminisce about how he was our manager for the best season we ever had (I know we were relegated but we were Premier League FFS!). He looked well though you could tell he had been ill. I don't think he will return to the game. Too much enjoyment of his family time now.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Cibocchi_Is_God on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 14:31:28
In true Keegan fashion "I would looove it" if Hoddle came back! Can you imagine?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ronnie21 on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 14:44:42
Appointing Hoddle would get me straight down the ground to buy a season ticket.

Won't happen though.
I think you have to go with an adult due to your age!!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: @MacPhlea on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 15:23:02
Just to add some fuel to the fire... from just after the PDC appointment

http://lesrosbifs.org/mixed-fortunes-for-the-glenn-hoddle-academy-in-spain/

So Hoddle is back in England and on the market again. Perhaps. The Academy website explains how he is looking for an English club to form a link with, so that his players get regular, competitive action outside of the friendlies they already play. The aim seems to be forging a link with a League One club or lower, with recent chatter linking the academy to Swindon Town, the club he used to manage, and who have just appointed Paolo Di Canio as their new manager.

Hoddle did not apply for this job, although his academy assistant, Graham Rix, did. Although he still speaks fondly of the club, it is uncertain if the academy will establish a link with the club. But West Ham United? Unlikely.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 15:26:29
Just to add some fuel to the fire... from just after the PDC appointment

http://lesrosbifs.org/mixed-fortunes-for-the-glenn-hoddle-academy-in-spain/

So Hoddle is back in England and on the market again. Perhaps. The Academy website explains how he is looking for an English club to form a link with, so that his players get regular, competitive action outside of the friendlies they already play. The aim seems to be forging a link with a League One club or lower, with recent chatter linking the academy to Swindon Town, the club he used to manage, and who have just appointed Paolo Di Canio as their new manager.

Hoddle did not apply for this job, although his academy assistant, Graham Rix, did. Although he still speaks fondly of the club, it is uncertain if the academy will establish a link with the club. But West Ham United? Unlikely.

Didnt Watkins say they did talk to Hoddle about this before they appointed Paolo?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Riddick on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 15:30:54
The concern then with hoddle would be that gha is the priority and not stfc


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Swindon Please Win on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 15:32:09
Doesn't Hoddle always get linked when we were searching for a manager? He was favourite for a period aswell when we appointed Paolo. Think someone has just put decent money on him and the bookies have shortened the odds.

Ill be very happy if I'm wrong though.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 15:43:55
Doesn't Hoddle always get linked when we were searching for a manager? He was favourite for a period aswell when we appointed Paolo. Think someone has just put decent money on him and the bookies have shortened the odds.

Ill be very happy if I'm wrong though.

Craig Lyrus and Morshead seem to think it's a real possibility. It appears to have more legs than just somebody putting on a lump at the bookies.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 15:46:02
Hopefully someone spots him in the stands tonight.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 15:47:34
Would save us appointing a new youth team manager as Hoddle would do all this via his academy, but I dont think Hoddle would return just to sit in mid table and he would want to bring in his players not those suggested by others, and can he work with our budget

I cant see it happening.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Saxondale on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 15:48:54
Let's face it Swindon.  Anything could happen.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: @MacPhlea on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 15:54:49
Trouble is now, if it doesn't happen it'll be another 'useless board' fest


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Ardiles on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 15:59:26
This really would be a bit like getting back with the stunner you pulled as a 17 year old.  She was way out of your league back then and yet, somehow, she briefly fell for your charm before leaving you for a narcisistic wanker who spent most of his time in the gym.

She's now middle aged and has a few tricky relationships behind her.  You're not sure really whether the years have been kind to her.  She might still have it, or she could be a pale, washed up immitation of the godess that stole your heart all those years ago.  But curiosity demands that you find out!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 16:00:45
This really would be a bit like getting back with the stunner you pulled as a 17 year old.  She was way out of your league back then and yet, somehow, she briefly fell for your charm before leaving you for a narcisistic wanker who spent most of his time in the gym.

She's now middle aged and has a few tricky relationships behind her.  You're not sure really whether the years have been kind to her.  She might still have it, or she could be a pale, washed up immitation of the godess that stole your heart all those years ago.  But curiosity demands that you find out!

Beautiful.

Mail that into Radio Swindon and see if they read it out.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 16:04:21
This really would be a bit like getting back with the stunner you pulled as a 17 year old.  She was way out of your league back then and yet, somehow, she briefly fell for your charm before leaving you for a narcisistic wanker who spent most of his time in the gym.

She's now middle aged and has a few tricky relationships behind her.  You're not sure really whether the years have been kind to her.  She might still have it, or she could be a pale, washed up immitation of the godess that stole your heart all those years ago.  But curiosity demands that you find out!

I do like these manager/girlfriend analogies.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 16:05:53
When did you get admined BR?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Ardiles on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 16:07:21
Beautiful.

Mail that into Radio Swindon and see if they read it out.

I wouldn't know how.  Happy for someone else to though.   ;D


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 16:08:07
A couple of weeks or so ago.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: singingiiiffy on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 16:14:40
What's the difference to being Swindon Hotspurs to being a feeder club from the GHA? Has Hoddle discussed before how he would integrate these players into a club and numbers involved?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Saxondale on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 16:18:16
I do like these manager/girlfriend analogies.
I'm sure my Pdc one got nicked and used in a washbag column.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bewster on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 16:27:38
Whether Ardilles is right or not and despite not fully forgiven him for walking out on us I'd welcome him back with open arms.

He is a better bet than everyone else being touted and I haven't heard the phrase "early doors" in years.

Do we still have to pay Eileen Drewery ??


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 16:34:10
This really would be a bit like getting back with the stunner you pulled as a 17 year old.  She was way out of your league back then and yet, somehow, she briefly fell for your charm before leaving you for a narcisistic wanker who spent most of his time in the gym.

She's now middle aged and has a few tricky relationships behind her.  You're not sure really whether the years have been kind to her.  She might still have it, or she could be a pale, washed up immitation of the godess that stole your heart all those years ago.  But curiosity demands that you find out!

that is brilliant


Title: Re: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 16:40:55
What were the odds on MacDonald close to his appointment?

Hoddle would be welcome so long as he leaves his Christian bullshit at the door


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 16:47:53
When did you get admined BR?

At the same time he become the boards number 1 supporter, coincidence?

As for Hoddle - been out of management for 7 years now. Not sure he's going to be up to speed, most managers seem to have a shelf live...


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 16:52:30
At the same time he become the boards number 1 supporter, coincidence?

As for Hoddle - been out of management for 13 years now. Not sure he's going to be up to speed, most managers seem to have a shelf live...

He left Wolves in 2006...


Title: Re: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Not that Nice If I'm Honest on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 16:53:27
What were the odds on MacDonald close to his appointment?

Hoddle would be welcome so long as he leaves his Christian bullshit at the door

Are there any Swindon Managers that you don't mind having a view ?

I hear John Trollope was a marxist - was he OK ?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: OrangeTransits on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 16:53:52
From what i am reading these guys might just be the only happy supporters in Swindon at the moment.

http://www.swindon-spurs.com/about_us


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 16:54:27
Yes, it's 2019 isn't it?

Still 7 years is long enough....


Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 16:58:18
Are there any Swindon Managers that you don't mind having a view ?

I hear John Trollope was a marxist - was he OK ?
I draw the line at religion,  fascism and Oxford.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 17:00:49
This really would be a bit like getting back with the stunner you pulled as a 17 year old.  She was way out of your league back then and yet, somehow, she briefly fell for your charm before leaving you for a narcisistic wanker who spent most of his time in the gym.

She's now middle aged and has a few tricky relationships behind her.  You're not sure really whether the years have been kind to her.  She might still have it, or she could be a pale, washed up immitation of the godess that stole your heart all those years ago.  But curiosity demands that you find out!

Think I've been there and done that one.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Ardiles on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 17:01:44
So what was the answer?  This is important.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 17:04:30
At the same time he become the boards number 1 supporter, coincidence?

As for Hoddle - been out of management for 7 years now. Not sure he's going to be up to speed, most managers seem to have a shelf live...

TBF Flasheart had achieved his # 1 status....before gaining modular powers, but that event did seem to coincide with Murrall/McCrory hacking DRS's account.  :hmmm:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: wiggy on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 17:04:35
Think I've been there and done that one.

Me too!

Good times


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 18:13:21
From what i am reading these guys might just be the only happy supporters in Swindon at the moment.

http://www.swindon-spurs.com/about_us

So if the Spurs takeover of us continues would they become the THEF?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Honkytonk on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 18:36:18
TBF Flasheart had achieved his # 1 status....before gaining modular powers, but that event did seem to coincide with Murrall/McCrory hacking DRS's account.  :hmmm:


Are we rated? Does this happen in the 'lounge'? You wait till Dosser gets back, he'll go mental. Secret cabals and all that.

And its obvious the admins are all board lovers. It's all part of the conspiracy against the football club by the board. Sleeper agents in place to silence the truth on the forums.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: dalumpimunki on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 18:47:29
This really would be a bit like getting back with the stunner you pulled as a 17 year old.  She was way out of your league back then and yet, somehow, she briefly fell for your charm before leaving you for a narcisistic wanker who spent most of his time in the gym.

She's now middle aged and has a few tricky relationships behind her.  You're not sure really whether the years have been kind to her.  She might still have it, or she could be a pale, washed up immitation of the godess that stole your heart all those years ago.  But curiosity demands that you find out!

It's clear you spend far too much time fantasising about this. What was her name?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Whits on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 18:47:43


Are we rated? Does this happen in the 'lounge'? You wait till Dosser gets back, he'll go mental. Secret cabals and all that.

And its obvious the admins are all board lovers. It's all part of the conspiracy against the football club by the board. Sleeper agents in place to silence the truth on the forums.

we are paid heavily to be pro-board, to be fair if a group paid us to be anti board we'd probably give that a whirl to


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 19:02:37
Sky bet:

Hoddle 13/8
Ferdinand 9/4
Paul Hartley 4/1


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: corner on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 19:07:09
Sky bet:

Hoddle 13/8
Ferdinand 9/4
Paul Hartley 4/1
Are they getting those odds purely from speculation from this site?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 19:07:46
Paul Hartley has never been mentioned before. Ex jambo legend!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 19:08:14
Paul Hartley out of nowhere. Interesting management career to date with 2 promotions in 2 seasons at Alloa Athletic.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: The Great Stan on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 19:10:08
Still playing as well


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 19:27:37
Still playing as well

Hi Paul


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: The Great Stan on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 19:28:26
Pint of heavy for me, hen


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 19:31:14
I scoffed at Hartley when I first read this simply because I'm convinced that it'll be some Tottenham link.

However, if I recall correctly, MacDonald's name appeared suddenly within the bookies lists and he went on to get the job so you never know.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 19:41:11
Still playing as well
Still registered as a player but has not played for Alloa in the last 2 seasons.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: The Great Stan on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 19:56:27
Hartley now favourite with SkyBet


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: donkey on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 20:01:13
What were the odds on MacDonald close to his appointment?

Hoddle would be welcome so long as he leaves his Christian bullshit at the door

Hoddle may be many things, but I'm pretty sure he's not a Christian, he believes in re-incarnation.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 20:02:57
Hoddle may be many things, but I'm pretty sure he's not a Christian, he believes in re-incarnation.

Liking evaporated milk doesn't make somebody a bad person.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 20:04:34
Sam Morshead ‏@SamMorshead_SA 5m

Jed McCrory suggested to me earlier this evening that a managerial appointment would be unlikely this week.

Does that give Cooper time to get a draw against Spurs, a win against Brum and organise the team in Portugal before being given the job?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Weasel on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 20:04:45
Hartley now favourite with SkyBet

He's my favourite too, so much so I changed my avatar. I also once did this with Leon Clarke, what could go wrong?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: donkey on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 20:05:02
Liking evaporated milk doesn't make somebody a bad person.

 :)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Matt71 on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 20:05:48
Would be exellent I reckon.started his career at Alloa when they were in disarray with one pro footballer on the books in pre season and won the league also promoted following year.only Scottish football but its all relative .


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Cibocchi_Is_God on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 20:42:40
Two promotions in two seasons, can't say fairer than that.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 21:15:40
Would happily have Hartley here to try and get us out of this jam.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Saxondale on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 21:17:03
We'd be haring away with the league.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 21:17:26
Would happily have Hartley here to try and get us out of this jam.

Perhaps he could help us preserve our L1 status at least.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bewster on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 21:19:34
Paul Hartley has never been mentioned before. Ex jambo legend!

Didn't he write a book about Fly Fishing ?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Saxondale on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 21:20:32
Probably be the toast of the town.  A really jammy manager.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: @MacPhlea on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 21:25:09
Apparently Mccrory and Power are agreed on who they'd like to see as manager - just a case of whether they get their man...


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Abrahammer on Tuesday, July 16, 2013, 21:35:54
Got a lot of respect for Hartley due to his role in the "Riccarton 3".

The man has a lot of footballing morals


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 07:40:40
Got a lot of respect for Hartley due to his role in the "Riccarton 3".

The man has a lot of footballing morals

I had a season ticket when Hearts split the old firm and Paul Hartley was my 'favourite' player that season. Seems to have made an excellent start in management with Alloa.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22591976

I thought this bit was interesting -

"It's fantastic to come into training.

"You would not believe some of the stuff we do - fittest team in the league.

"We do hundreds of stuff you wouldn't even see and the hard work shows in the end."



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DRS on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 07:48:00
TBF Flasheart had achieved his # 1 status....before gaining modular powers, but that event did seem to coincide with Murrall/McCrory hacking DRS's account.  :hmmm:
:D


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 08:06:53
One of the people not mentioned thus far is Ian Wright.

Now, don't get me wrong, I think he would be a disaster. But, he was allegedly one of the ones in the running when KMac got the job.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 08:08:46
Bloody hell NMH, I just came to this thread to say Ian Wright is too thick to be a football manger, and there is your post mere minutes earlier.

In conclusion

NMH - quicker thinker than me.
Ian Wright - too thick.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 08:11:28
He wasnt in the running and has not taken a job coaching at Man Utd I believe but ...

I could have been tempted by Phil Neville as a player coach maybe.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 10:11:29
If there's Maurice Malpas taught us, it's that Scottish management record is a bit like winning Monopoly money or getting your Lego Land driving licence....it doesn't really count.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 10:37:24
If there's Maurice Malpas taught us, it's that Scottish management record is a bit like winning Monopoly money or getting your Lego Land driving licence....it doesn't really count.

United got lucky with Fergie, Shankly did well with Grimsby before Liverpool. Grimsby is practically in Scotland (i.e. north of Birmingham).

erm, erm, OK maybe not.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 10:58:36
Malpas had a poor record in Scotland!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 11:11:34
Malpas had a poor record in Scotland!
MM had a win ratio as a manager of 26.3% at Motherwell before we employed him.
Paul Hartley has a win ratio of 54.2% albeit at a lower level.

FWIW I feel Paul Hartley being linked is just fan/paper talk I would be concerned that he has little experience of the English game having only had 2 seasons in England during his playing career but fuck it a good manager is a good manager at whatever level he is at.

If he is willing to work with what he has got and on a lowish playing budget and can motivate players and get them playing good football....might be worth a gamble, I expect that Alloa will want a fee for him though as he is recently signed a contract extension to the end of 2014 season.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 11:16:46
A couple of good quotes about Paul Hartley after their play off games last season.....

Quote
"It's fantastic to come into training.

"You would not believe some of the stuff we do - fittest team in the league.

"We do hundreds of stuff you wouldn't even see and the hard work shows in the end."

Quote
"We know we work under limited resources. We've not got a lot of money, but it's not about money for the guys - it's about enjoying their football and seeing the club progressing and the players progressing.

"We try to pass the ball, we've got a good group of players and I'm proud of the club and the achievement of the players."

They seem to tick the right boxes.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22591976


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 11:20:57
Hundreds of stuff you say? Sounds excellent.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Ardiles on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 11:22:45
He'd have said 'hunners of stuff'.  I guarantee it.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 11:37:26
.

FWIW I feel Paul Hartley being linked is just fan/paper talk I would be concerned that he has little experience of the English game having only had 2 seasons in England during his playing career but fuck it a good manager is a good manager at whatever level he is at.


Indeed, one of the problems with appointing a manager without huge experience of English leagues is he might not know as much about the sort of players he wants to/ can bring in. Given that our squad is likely to be dictated to the manager, this would be less of a problem in this case.

Plus he must know a few talented, hungry and under paid Scottish pros who fancy a crack south of the border.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 11:38:59
Plus he must know a few talented, hungry and under paid Scottish pros who fancy a crack south of the border.
Let us never mention hungry, sottish, pro and crack together in one sentence again.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 11:54:47
Let us never mention hungry, sottish, pro and crack together in one sentence again.

A very very good point. Forgive that oversight.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 12:28:13
Latest SkyBet oods:

Hartley 5/4
Ferdinand 3/1
Hoddle 5/1
Pearce 8/1
Sherwood 11/1
Warnock 14/1


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 12:30:45
Latest SkyBet oods:

Hartley 5/4
Ferdinand 3/1
Hoddle 5/1
Pearce 8/1
Sherwood 11/1
Warnock 14/1

I would be reasonably happy with any of them to be honest, but cannot believe it would be any of them!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 12:38:41
I would be reasonably happy with any of them to be honest, but cannot believe it would be any of them!

Me as well.

Think the final choice will probably not be on that list. At the moment, no real idea who it is likely to be really.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Arriba on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 12:41:19
I'm not interested in who the new manager is unless they are allowed a budget and then left to do their job without interference. Pointless otherwise


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 12:42:15
Bet Cooper gets the job anyway.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Joycie on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 12:48:26
If there's Maurice Malpas taught us, it's that Scottish management record is a bit like winning Monopoly money or getting your Lego Land driving licence....it doesn't really count.

Malpas had a shocking time at Motherwell, nearly got relegated and fans hated him.

That's why he had to take the step down to join Swindon.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 12:52:40
That's why he had to take the step down to join Swindon.
Ha ha good one.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 12:57:37
I reckon it will be Ledley King


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Barry Scott on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 13:03:11
Latest SkyBet oods:

Hartley 5/4
Ferdinand 3/1
Hoddle 5/1
Pearce 8/1
Sherwood 11/1
Warnock 14/1

Never really understood credence given to odds, especially odds offered by the same company that's providing the news that will result in people having a punt.

I'd wager Skysports "hint" at someone being a shoo-in for the job, someone who's not really in with a shout, give said person decent odds (so it's convincing, but not silly) then loads of thick punters start to wade in on the back of the news from the bookie.

Sky then barely drop the odds, release another "news story", maybe even interview people in-the-know to give their opinion on how likely it is and yet more wade in. Sky then maybe start lowering the odds or make them favourite, and talk about this on TV. Following this revelation, every idiot has a bet on it before betting is closed. (Rinse and repeat.)

Suddenly, out of nowhere, somebody different is then appointed and Sky thank punters for the money they've just printed for themselves. Great business.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Power to people on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 13:34:25
The other thing I wondered is that whoever comes in may have to accept the existing staff as we cannot afford to pay off Cooper & Digby so the new man can get his own staff

That may have a say on the type of manager we can attract


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Panda Paws on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 13:38:08
Was thinking about Cooper last night. We're so thin on the ground in terms of coaching staff that even if the new manager brought in an assistant, we'd still need a first team coach and a head coach of the u18s. Cooper will slot in to one of them, no probs.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 13:40:43
Maybe Cooper is being given a chance in the 2 friendlies to see how his tactical nous is.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 13:41:21
Morshead posted on TEF the other day implying that Jamie Pitman was the new U18s coach.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 13:50:56
Morshead posted on TEF the other day implying that Jamie Pitman was the new U18s coach.
Cooper said it also in one of his recent interviews.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: @MacPhlea on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 14:05:38
Never really understood credence given to odds, especially odds offered by the same company that's providing the news that will result in people having a punt.

I'd wager Skysports "hint" at someone being a shoo-in for the job, someone who's not really in with a shout, give said person decent odds (so it's convincing, but not silly) then loads of thick punters start to wade in on the back of the news from the bookie.

Sky then barely drop the odds, release another "news story", maybe even interview people in-the-know to give their opinion on how likely it is and yet more wade in. Sky then maybe start lowering the odds or make them favourite, and talk about this on TV. Following this revelation, every idiot has a bet on it before betting is closed. (Rinse and repeat.)

Suddenly, out of nowhere, somebody different is then appointed and Sky thank punters for the money they've just printed for themselves. Great business.

Odds for 'next manager' are very fluid an are influenced by individual bets whereas odds on horse racing are influenced by national betting patterns.  Hence why the 'favourite' can change by the hour.  Apparently it's because there will always be someone within the club who knows who it will be and the bookies will drop their odds at the slightest hint of a big wager being placed... As if a Swindon board member would ever be caught up in a football betting scandal... How very dare they!!!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Arriba on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 14:12:02
Morshead posted on TEF the other day implying that Jamie Pitman was the new U18s coach.
has been for months. Since Bodin went sick


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 14:21:58
Was thinking about Cooper last night.


Dirty boy  :girlgiggle:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: RedRag on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 16:14:49

I'd wager Skysports "hint" at someone being a shoo-in for the job, someone who's not really in with a shout, give said person decent odds (so it's convincing, but not silly) then loads of thick punters start to wade in on the back of the news from the bookie.

Like your theory - where can I wager that it's 100% correct?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: kaufman on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 17:23:42
Jed's on twitter again, Seems to be suggesting he didn't say Hoddle was not being considered.
Or if he did he seems surprised by it.

Quote


Did I ..??..We are reviewing all candidates and will announce once we have signed, But again thank you for you're support

edit. You know what i've posted this and now regretting it, I've lost interest what he has to say frankly. The chairman is playing games and it's beginning to become tiresome.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 17:35:33
Jed's on twitter again, Seems to be suggesting he didn't say Hoddle was not being considered.
Or if he did he seems surprised by it.
poor Sam


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: leefer on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 17:48:32
Maybe if Paul Hartley gets the job the headlines will read...

HARTLEY HEAR.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 19:02:13
Maybe if Paul Hartley gets the job the headlines will read...

HARTLEY HEAR.
Is there anyone called Topov or Pipkins who could be a coach?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Sam Morshead on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 19:19:21
poor Sam
::)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: nickhaw on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 19:29:24
Did I ..??..We are reviewing all candidates and will announce once we have signed, But again thank you for you're support
You're mean you are... Your means your

Lets face it, he still has no grasp of basic punctuation. This does not necessarily make him an idiot, it just makes him look like one.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: dalumpimunki on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 19:43:59
If there's Maurice Malpas taught us, it's that Scottish management record is a bit like winning Monopoly money or getting your Lego Land driving licence....it doesn't really count.

Except that MM's record in Scotland was shit...


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 20:00:06
::)
I meant it! The club are fucking everyone around, despite making some positive steps last week, and like the majority of fans you've done nothing to warrant the wall of silence and/or misinformation you've received of late.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 21:20:42
Sam is over tired, 2 games in 2 days is enough for anyone.

I think it's about time we saw another piece aimed at posters on the TEF.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 22:00:56
Good news everyone

Mike Newell has appeared in the sky bet betting at 8/1 joint 3rd favourite with Glenn Hoddle!!



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: hanneyred on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 22:09:02
M Newell was sat in front of me tonight, and he was making very detailed notes on all the players

Caddis went up to shake his hand,

Placed my bet on him at 16/1 on sky bet  :)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 22:12:04
M Newell was sat in front of me tonight, and he was making very detailed notes on all the players

You better be jo....oh god....nooooooooooooo


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 22:13:04
Didn't someone say Mick Harford was in attendance aswell? Think we know who our management team are going to be then.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 22:14:59
Seriously, that would be the biggest stitch up by this board. Surely Jed wouldn't risk it. Surely.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: kaufman on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 22:16:44
Harford joined lomas at Millwall in June


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 22:20:32
Harford joined lomas at Millwall in June

Thank gawd for that.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: RJack on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 23:05:39
If Mike Newell is appointed as the new manager of Swindon I will be seriously be pissed off.  He had some success managing Luton but he's been out of management for too long now

Newell's appointment would indicate to fans that the current board have no interest in progressing the club football wise & are just here to make a fast buck.  

Wouldn't surprise if it was true though friends with Jed & Power  ::)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 23:11:37
I'm still not sure if he was even there or not. If he was it doesn't mean he was there as a perspective manager. Still worrying enough though!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Kinky Tom on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 23:13:46
so jed and power appoint a female to the board one week and then couple weeks later see fit to appoint a massive misogynist in newell?  could happen but but would be a strange move surely?  one he'd be uncomfortable with himself also you'd assume.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Honkytonk on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 23:15:33
so jed and power appoint a female to the board one week and then couple weeks later see fit to appoint a misogynist in newell?  could happen but but would be a strange move surely?

Coming this winter, a great new reality show! Follow the misogynist football manager and his powerful female boss as they get involved in HILARIOUS hijinks!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 23:33:42
so jed and power appoint a female to the board one week and then couple weeks later see fit to appoint a massive misogynist in newell?  could happen but but would be a strange move surely?  one he'd be uncomfortable with himself also you'd assume.
Apparently McCrory likes to make his appointments after contemplation during a round of golf. I heard he had a round with Newell at Muirfield recently.  :hmmm:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ron dodgers on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 00:20:33
when?


Title: Re: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Frigby Daser on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 05:57:50
As I said last time, not even McCrory would be so dense as to appoint Mike Newell. He'd be instantly and universally disliked.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 07:04:15
As I said last time, not even McCrory would be so dense as to appoint Mike Newell. He'd be instantly and universally disliked.
Dense - no, arrogant - yes. He's the only gig in town, remember.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 07:11:09
when?
I think you've been whooshed - suspect Reg was referring to Newell's past controversies around his somewhat antiquated approach to the fairer sex's involvement in football and the current furore surrounding Muirfield hosting the Open but refusing membership to lady golfers.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 08:12:21
so jed and power appoint a female to the board one week and then couple weeks later see fit to appoint a massive misogynist in newell?  could happen but but would be a strange move surely?  one he'd be uncomfortable with himself also you'd assume.
Why do you say Newell is a misogynist?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 08:14:32
Ahh! Got it !

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/luton_town/6140922.stm


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: kerry red on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 09:43:45
Big move in the Skybet list

Sir Les into 1/2 with Hartley pushed out and Hoddle right out to 16/1

Thankfully, Newell also gone out


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 09:45:51
I really like the sound of this Hartley fella.

Sir Les is an unknown where management is concerned but then we tend to do well with those.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 10:00:33
I fucking hate Mike Newell. Absolute cunt.

Never really liked Ferdinand either for some reason.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ron dodgers on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 10:03:08
I think you've been whooshed - suspect Reg was referring to Newell's past controversies around his somewhat antiquated approach to the fairer sex's involvement in football and the current furore surrounding Muirfield hosting the Open but refusing membership to lady golfers.

doh - I'll woosh him if I see him in the hive


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 10:09:55
I fucking hate Mike Newell. Absolute cunt.

Never really liked Ferdinand either for some reason.

Being related to Rio doesn't help...


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: 4D on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 10:45:47
Have we ever had a manager with a blue Peter badge?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 12:40:10
I really like the sound of this Hartley fella.

Me too. The Celtic fan at work's cousin (I know, I know) plays for Alloa. Can I get him to get any inside info...can I heck.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Riddick on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 12:44:34
What about this Hartley lad does everyone like?

Is it just because he has no spurs connection


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: BruceChatwin on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 12:45:10
Anyone know what sort of football Hartley likes to play?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ronnie21 on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 12:55:41
Have we ever had a manager with a blue Peter badge?
Andy King?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ronnie21 on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 12:56:44
What about this Hartley lad does everyone like?

Is it just because he has no spurs connection
A good player in his day and a decent track record at a level lower than we hope to play!  Other than that - nothing!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 12:57:23
What about this Hartley lad does everyone like?

Is it just because he has no spurs connection

Hartley has fabulous head of hair and the ability to grow a no-nonsense beard.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Riddick on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 13:04:55
Two promotions at Alloa is good work, but were they not a part time team? Therefore the professional methods he employed will have made a big difference there. Taking over a full time team he can't do the same thing and get the same response.

More evidence he can be a good manager than Sir Les, just not sure why people really like him.

Played for bristol city as well!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 13:07:26
When I first saw his name I did a double take as I missed the last 3 letters of his name.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 13:17:50
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/alloa-athletic-boss-paul-hartley-1910164


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: 4D on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 13:19:20
When I first saw his name I did a double take as I missed the last 3 letters of his name.

P Hartley?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Kinky Tom on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 13:20:17
Ha, I was literally just about to post that too bud, the following quote stood out for me:

"When I stopped playing football I wanted to be a manager and not a coach because I insist on running my club’s playing side from top to bottom. I have to be my own man.”

Surely he can't be the right man for the job at the moment?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 13:38:08
Ha, I was literally just about to post that too bud, the following quote stood out for me:

"When I stopped playing football I wanted to be a manager and not a coach because I insist on running my club’s playing side from top to bottom. I have to be my own man.”

Surely he can't be the right man for the job at the moment?

That was my first thought when I read that sentance as well KT!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 13:54:51
Anyone know what sort of football Hartley likes to play?

A couple of good quotes about Paul Hartley after their play off games last season.....

They seem to tick the right boxes.

Quote
"It's fantastic to come into training.

"You would not believe some of the stuff we do - fittest team in the league.

"We do hundreds of stuff you wouldn't even see and the hard work shows in the end."

Quote
"We know we work under limited resources. We've not got a lot of money, but it's not about money for the guys - it's about enjoying their football and seeing the club progressing and the players progressing.

"We try to pass the ball, we've got a good group of players and I'm proud of the club and the achievement of the players."


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22591976

Fitness and passing, both good attributes.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Riddick on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 13:56:37
almost every manager claims they want their team to pass the ball and be the fittest team, just standard manager talk


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 13:57:24
Ha, I was literally just about to post that too bud, the following quote stood out for me:

"When I stopped playing football I wanted to be a manager and not a coach because I insist on running my club’s playing side from top to bottom. I have to be my own man.”

Surely he can't be the right man for the job at the moment?

That could well put him off then if as suggested Lee Power brings all the players in, we will have to see.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 13:57:46
almost every manager claims they want their team to pass the ball and be the fittest team, just standard manager talk
That wasn't a quote from him but from one of his players.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: nochee on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 14:09:18
What's he like at fly fishing?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Riddick on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 14:14:51
That wasn't a quote from him but from one of his players.

But are these the part time players that he took over? Just seems that he came in and introduced a full time attitude, not sure you get the same affect from players who are already full time.

Not saying he's shit, just questioning why a part time players views hold that much weight really


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DiV on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 14:23:14
What about this Hartley lad does everyone like?

Is it just because he has no spurs connection

He wins football matches.


Title: Re: Re: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 14:25:57
Ha, I was literally just about to post that too bud, the following quote stood out for me:

"When I stopped playing football I wanted to be a manager and not a coach because I insist on running my club’s playing side from top to bottom. I have to be my own man.”

Surely he can't be the right man for the job at the moment?
hmmm you have a point.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: kerry red on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 14:58:01
For those that are interested

Sir Les has gone from 1/2 to 5/4

And Zoom Zoom has shortened into 2/1

Skybet odds

Even better is Newell is out to 40/1 no odds at all for Harford


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 15:08:43
It's a massive gap after those two to the field.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Armyred78 on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 15:12:58
Any chance someone could post the latest odds, I'm stuck in Afghanistan and can't check odds?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 15:14:06
Any chance someone could post the latest odds, I'm stuck in Afghanistan and can't check odds?

Next Permanent Manager
Les Ferdinand 5/4
Paul Hartley 2/1
Stuart Pearce 9/1
Tim Sherwood 20/1
Paul Tisdale 20/1
Glenn Hoddle 20/1
Mark Cooper 22/1
Peter Taylor 28/1
Alan Curbishley 33/1
Terry Connor 33/1
Robbie Fowler 33/1
Paul Sturrock 33/1
Carl Fletcher 33/1
Martin Ling 33/1
Micky Mellon 33/1
Gary Megson 33/1
Dean Holdsworth 33/1
Michael Appleton 33/1
Neil Warnock 40/1
Mike Newell 40/1
Ian Wright 50/1
Terry Butcher 50/1


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Ginginho on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 15:14:16
Next Permanent Manager
Les Ferdinand 5/4
Paul Hartley 2/1
Stuart Pearce 9/1
Tim Sherwood 20/1
Paul Tisdale 20/1
Glenn Hoddle 20/1
Mark Cooper 22/1
Peter Taylor 28/1
Alan Curbishley 33/1
Terry Connor 33/1
John Connor 33/1
Jimmy Connors 33/1
Jimmy Savile 33/1
Robbie Fowler 33/1
Paul Sturrock 33/1
Carl Fletcher 33/1
Martin Ling 33/1
Micky Mellon 33/1
Gary Megson 33/1
Dean Holdsworth 33/1
Michael Appleton 33/1
Colin Wanker 40/1
Mike Newell 40/1
Ian Wright 50/1
Terry Butcher 50/1


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 15:17:02
Saville will fix it! 33/1


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Armyred78 on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 15:18:23
Thanks


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: woolster on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 15:26:29
Next Permanent Manager
Les Ferdinand 5/4
Paul Hartley 2/1
Stuart Pearce 9/1
Tim Sherwood 20/1
Paul Tisdale 20/1
Glenn Hoddle 20/1
Mark Cooper 22/1
Peter Taylor 28/1
Alan Curbishley 33/1
Terry Connor 33/1
John Connor 33/1
Jimmy Connors 33/1
Jimmy Savile 33/1
Robbie Fowler 33/1
Paul Sturrock 33/1
Carl Fletcher 33/1
Martin Ling 33/1
Micky Mellon 33/1
Gary Megson 33/1
Dean Holdsworth 33/1
Michael Appleton 33/1
Colin Wanker 40/1
Mike Newell 40/1
Ian Wright 50/1
Terry Butcher 50/1

Has mr Todd changed his surname at 40/1


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Ginginho on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 15:28:50
Has mr Todd changed his surname at 40/1

No, that's Neil Warnock :)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: 4D on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 15:29:35
Anagrammatising


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: woolster on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 15:31:32
No, that's Neil Warnock :)
Oh yeah, didnt Leeds fans call him that


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 15:56:24
I bet whoever is appointed will never appear on the odds.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 15:59:40
I bet whoever is appointed will never appear on the odds.
Or not until the day before he is appointed like Malpas and KMac weren't mentioned until hours before they actually had the job.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 16:15:20
Two promotions at Alloa is good work, but were they not a part time team?

The ability to work with part-timers might be the attraction for the Board....


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: reeves4england on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 16:19:22
I bet whoever is appointed will never appear on the odds.

What odds can you get on that? :)


Title: Re: Re: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Only Me on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 19:05:27
Never really understood credence given to odds, especially odds offered by the same company that's providing the news that will result in people having a punt.

I'd wager Skysports "hint" at someone being a shoo-in for the job, someone who's not really in with a shout, give said person decent odds (so it's convincing, but not silly) then loads of thick punters start to wade in on the back of the news from the bookie.

Sky then barely drop the odds, release another "news story", maybe even interview people in-the-know to give their opinion on how likely it is and yet more wade in. Sky then maybe start lowering the odds or make them favourite, and talk about this on TV. Following this revelation, every idiot has a bet on it before betting is closed. (Rinse and repeat.)

Suddenly, out of nowhere, somebody different is then appointed and Sky thank punters for the money they've just printed for themselves. Great business.

So who did you wade your money on?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: @mwooly63 on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 19:09:17
Oh yeah, didnt Leeds fans call him that

Indeed

And before he finally fucked off just wanker  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Wants to be in cornwall so no way he would be interested nor us in him


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, July 18, 2013, 19:11:05
My vote goes for Paul Hartley, last week Alloa managed a 1-1 draw with Poxford so thats better than Paolo could do in 3 matches.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Friday, July 19, 2013, 06:13:28
Sky bet seem to have suspended the betting against Paul Tisdale.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Friday, July 19, 2013, 06:20:28
Tisdale has experience with a vastly smaller playing budget and working with a senior head (although I don't think the relationship with Lee Power would be the same as Steve Perryman... I don't know).

As always though, I can't see this one happening.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DRS on Friday, July 19, 2013, 06:44:29
I hope we get Tisdale,so does my skybet account


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, July 19, 2013, 06:49:19
Didn't Tisdale rule himself out yesterday?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Friday, July 19, 2013, 06:51:55
Didn't Tisdale rule himself out yesterday?

Not exactly (despite the headline), more reiterating he was happy at Exeter..
http://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/exeter-city/transfer-talk/news/tisdale-im-not-joining-swindon_94069.html
Quote
"I seem to get linked every time. It is my local club I suppose," he told the Express & Echo.

"I get asked this question every time and if anyone is going to persuade me to leave here, then it needs to be good because I love it here. It is a great place to work."


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Riddick on Friday, July 19, 2013, 06:53:15
Tisdale was well thought of a couple of years ago, don't know what has happened since then

I'd take him at our place


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Friday, July 19, 2013, 07:43:09
Would Tisdale be more kosher if we got Perryman as well?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Friday, July 19, 2013, 07:45:26
Its probably nothing but it just looks a bit bizarre that everyone has odds next to them apart from Tisdale who is suspended!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Riddick on Friday, July 19, 2013, 07:46:00
Agreed, would they not suspend all bets if Tisdale was going to get it?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DRS on Friday, July 19, 2013, 07:49:40
Its probably nothing but it just looks a bit bizarre that everyone has odds next to them apart from Tisdale who is suspended!
Usually means he has been backed heavily


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: woolster on Friday, July 19, 2013, 07:49:48
Agreed, would they not suspend all bets if Tisdale was going to get it?
:nod:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, July 19, 2013, 07:50:02
What about other bookies? What does oddschecker say (at work so can't look)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: china red on Friday, July 19, 2013, 07:57:10
I don't think we will get Tisdale, I think we will have another Kmac situation where someone comes out of nowehere to get the job.

Interesting that we are still trying to sign mason, guess whoever comes in will have very little input into choice of signings


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Friday, July 19, 2013, 08:00:03
So Tisdale fits the bill then...



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Friday, July 19, 2013, 08:01:19
What about other bookies? What does oddschecker say (at work so can't look)

Ferdinand 5/4
Hartley 9/4
Tisdale 10/1
Pearce 10/1
Ramsey 16/1

20-1 bar


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DRS on Friday, July 19, 2013, 08:21:36
Where can you still get tens


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: otanswell on Friday, July 19, 2013, 08:29:05
Where can you still get tens

Queue dean searching every betting site on the Internet for decent odds haha


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: london_red on Friday, July 19, 2013, 08:32:29
Tried to get 6's at BetVictor and by the time I'd typed in my stake it changed to 11/4


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, July 19, 2013, 08:38:39
No smoke without fire I guess.

Would be happy with Tisdale. In fact of the managers mentioned on this thread - Hoddle, Tisdale, Hartley and Ferdinand, I wouldn't be unhappy with any of them.

The nightmare scenario is if the manager comes from leftfield, and its somone like Richard fucking Money.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: woolster on Friday, July 19, 2013, 09:11:56
Tried to get 6's at BetVictor and by the time I'd typed in my stake it changed to 11/4
I can see it being cooper, with players being lined up without a manager, why do they need to appoint one, plus what half decent manager would come to the CG and be told by power or whoever thats MY team,can't see the need for one


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Joycie on Friday, July 19, 2013, 09:14:49
Will Hartley give up the chance of getting a job in the SPFL?

Doubt it.


Title: Re: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: otanswell on Friday, July 19, 2013, 09:44:29
Call me nuts but tbf I wouldn't mind giving Cooper a go. Granted he was shit at Peterborough, but more fool the chairman for plucking him from the conference straight into the championship


Title: Re: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: china red on Friday, July 19, 2013, 10:04:44
Call me nuts but tbf I wouldn't mind giving Cooper a go. Granted he was shit at Peterborough, but more fool the chairman for plucking him from the conference straight into the championship

Nuts.

Actually he's done a reasonable job at most the clubs he's been at.  Shit at Peterborough but so were Ferguson and the other managers they had that season (was it 4?).  Very good job at Kettering.

Still wouldn't take him.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, July 19, 2013, 10:18:12
Looking at Cooper's managerial history it would seem that he went on a couple of good cup runs with non-league sides but didn't do too much else (Kettering aside). If he is to be the new manager perhaps we'll get relegated but get to the 5th round of the FA Cup, and probably win the windscreen wipers.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Friday, July 19, 2013, 10:32:09
Tisdale back to life on skybet ....

7/1 3rd fav!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Friday, July 19, 2013, 10:33:53
Have we ever poached a manager from another team before?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Friday, July 19, 2013, 10:37:43
Although staying at Exeter has dented his repuatation somewhat (perhaps harsh), he'd be my first choice. We need a manager who wants to be here for the long haul.

We don't pay comp for managers though!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, July 19, 2013, 10:41:16
Have we ever poached a manager from another team before?
I think the last time was Bobby Smith back in 78 from Port Vale for a £10k fee.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Friday, July 19, 2013, 10:45:29
Tisdale now 4/1


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, July 19, 2013, 10:50:46
I would like Tisdale here but then I have wanted him here since before Danny Wilson.

Even if his style of football may not be the best he does get results on a low budget.

A quote from the Exeter forum on the managers job and Tisdale...

Quote
It's a done deal for Folwer to be their new manager anyway.

And in regards to your last sentence(on Tisdale), why wouldn't they be? They haven't had to endure the worst football ever to be played. We make Stoke look like Barcelona.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, July 19, 2013, 10:58:38
Exeter play direct football?

Not sure that is going to work with our team of midgets!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Friday, July 19, 2013, 10:59:47
Tisdale has gone from 7/1 to 4/1 to 2/1 in the space of around half an hour on skybet!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Riddick on Friday, July 19, 2013, 11:09:48
Exeter play direct football?

Not sure that is going to work with our team of midgets!

For some reason i thought tisdale had his team playing good football? Agreed that direct will not work with our team


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, July 19, 2013, 11:10:39
For some reason i thought tisdale had his team playing good football? Agreed that direct will not work with our team

I did as well, bit of a surprise.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, July 19, 2013, 11:15:11
I did as well, bit of a surprise.
I have a mate who is an Exeter season ticket holder and he says they do play direct football, but that was only the last 2 seasons. Before then they played a passing game but something changed.

That said Cureton was a midget and he did ok in their team last season with 20+ goals.

He did say that they are cutting back on wages as well, moving on their top earners for youngsters.

It must be time for Tisdale to move on and take up a new challenge, he has taken Exeter as far as he possibly can IMO.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, July 19, 2013, 11:35:32
I did as well, bit of a surprise.

People only want Tisdale because he's recommended by fB....and he only wants him because he wears cravats.  I'm surprised he hasn't backed the case for the ghost of Jack Tinn...spat wearing ex Pompey boss.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Friday, July 19, 2013, 12:39:11
He did say that they are cutting back on wages as well, moving on their top earners for youngsters.

It must be time for Tisdale to move on and take up a new challenge,

Um, um ...oh never mind.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Friday, July 19, 2013, 12:40:43
People only want Tisdale because he's recommended by fB....and he only wants him because he wears cravats. 

(http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq120/Akaoni21/23412.gif) (http://media.photobucket.com/user/Akaoni21/media/23412.gif.html)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Arriba on Friday, July 19, 2013, 12:47:21
Um, um ...oh never mind.
:clap:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, July 19, 2013, 12:54:53
(http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq120/Akaoni21/23412.gif) (http://media.photobucket.com/user/Akaoni21/media/23412.gif.html)

That's not a cravat...its a kerchief.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, July 19, 2013, 13:10:47
Um, um ...oh never mind.
They were not connected comments, just that it was time for Tisdale to move on in MY opinion not that he had to move on because of the players being moved on.

That is why I put them in as 2 sepearte statements not as one sentence.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: kerry red on Friday, July 19, 2013, 13:12:52
Tisdale now 4/1

Now 11/4


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: 4D on Friday, July 19, 2013, 13:24:48
(http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq120/Akaoni21/23412.gif) (http://media.photobucket.com/user/Akaoni21/media/23412.gif.html)

" 'Arrooooooolllllddddd"

Looks like someone I used to sit near in the DRS.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: kaufman on Friday, July 19, 2013, 13:39:51
Out of interest as I'm not up on whats costs are per game for the club. What sort of profit would be made from the spurs friendly?

If we have money from this and the concerts plus transfer fee's for Caddis, Collins (hoping he doesn't go)
and flint that's going to be over a million quid.

Maybe they will be able to pay a club compensation for a manager.
Tisdale is on a 2 year rolling contract so can't imagine the compensation would be enormous?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: china red on Friday, July 19, 2013, 13:43:53
Anything from Sam with regards to new manager?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Arriba on Friday, July 19, 2013, 13:44:14
Tisdale would be stupid to come here as things currently are.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: woolster on Friday, July 19, 2013, 13:46:52
Out of interest as I'm not up on whats costs are per game for the club. What sort of profit would be made from the spurs friendly?

If we have money from this and the concerts plus transfer fee's or Caddis, Collins (hoping he doesn't go)
and flint that's going to be over a million quid

Maybe they will be able to pay a club compensation for a manager.
Tisdale is on a 2 year rolling contract so can't iLmagine the compensation would be enormous?
Jed and co get new cars


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Friday, July 19, 2013, 13:57:39
Tisdale would be stupid to come here as things currently are.

Any manager currently in a job would be daft to come here. People inside football will have a fair idea of what is going on and will make their own judgements.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Arriba on Friday, July 19, 2013, 14:04:52
Any manager currently in a job would be daft to come here. People inside football will have a fair idea of what is going on and will make their own judgements.
exactly.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, July 19, 2013, 14:11:15
exactly.
I am sure than any new manager will make up his own mind based upon a chat with the owners of the club rather than listening to rumours on an internet forum.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Arriba on Friday, July 19, 2013, 14:14:28
I am sure than any new manager will make up his own mind based upon a chat with the owners of the club rather than listening to rumours on an internet forum.
  Any prospective new manager's first call should be to kmac.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: china red on Friday, July 19, 2013, 14:15:55
  Any prospective new manager's first call should be to kmac.

Bet he has a nice NDA as part of his severence.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: LucienSanchez on Friday, July 19, 2013, 14:18:59
That would speak volumes in itself.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: london_red on Friday, July 19, 2013, 14:19:35
People inside football will have a fair idea of what is going on and will make their own judgements.

As opposed to people on here who have no idea what is going on and still make their own judgments


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, July 19, 2013, 14:24:01
As opposed to people on here who have no idea what is going on and still make their own judgments
Exactly.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, July 19, 2013, 14:29:56
As opposed to people on here who have no idea what is going on and still make their own judgments

Agombar and Jed are the same person.


Title: Re: Re: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Friday, July 19, 2013, 14:51:40
They were not connected comments, just that it was time for Tisdale to move on in MY opinion not that he had to move on because of the players being moved on.

That is why I put them in as 2 sepearte statements not as one sentence.
oh OK. It was only a joke anyway

edited: stupid predictive text.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DRS on Friday, July 19, 2013, 15:04:18
If it was as bad as half of you are making out do you think Paul Bodins best mate would apply?Do you think Tisdale would even bother talking to us.This strategy may totally blow up,the board may well do us over and royally fuck us up but until we know what these players are like and who the manager is lets wait and see.If getting in players cheap means we tread above water for a while then so be it.I would rather have players like Luongo,Pritchard,Hall and Mason trying to make a name for themselves than a bunch of overpaid cunts like Navaaro,Miller,Roberts who fancy a big wage


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: china red on Friday, July 19, 2013, 15:06:45
Do we know Tisdale is talking to us?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Stegenfreud on Friday, July 19, 2013, 15:39:11
If it was as bad as half of you are making out do you think Paul Bodins best mate would apply?Do you think Tisdale would even bother talking to us.This strategy may totally blow up,the board may well do us over and royally fuck us up but until we know what these players are like and who the manager is lets wait and see.If getting in players cheap means we tread above water for a while then so be it.I would rather have players like Luongo,Pritchard,Hall and Mason trying to make a name for themselves than a bunch of overpaid cunts like Navaaro,Miller,Roberts who fancy a big wage

Well said Sir.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Power to people on Friday, July 19, 2013, 15:54:35
Zola does not seem to have a problem at Watford where they only bring in players from 2 foreign clubs that the owner has links to

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11688/8831102/transfer-news-watford-sign-eight-players-from-udinese-and-granada


Title: Re: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Friday, July 19, 2013, 16:01:37
What do the Watford fans make of it? Is there a similar thread on their fan forums?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, July 19, 2013, 16:07:11
I am sure than any new manager will make up his own mind based upon a chat with the owners of the club rather than listening to rumours on an internet forum.

Don't think any manager in a job would be likely to leave it to come here, but there'll be plenty of takers form the unemployed pool, even if the word on the grapevine is that it's shit, a lucrative 2 year contract which will have to be paid up if it goes tits up rapidly, is nice work if you can get it....you might even come out without a damaged rep, ready for the next job.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Arriba on Friday, July 19, 2013, 16:11:13
If it was as bad as half of you are making out do you think Paul Bodins best mate would apply?Do you think Tisdale would even bother talking to us.This strategy may totally blow up,the board may well do us over and royally fuck us up but until we know what these players are like and who the manager is lets wait and see.If getting in players cheap means we tread above water for a while then so be it.I would rather have players like Luongo,Pritchard,Hall and Mason trying to make a name for themselves than a bunch of overpaid cunts like Navaaro,Miller,Roberts who fancy a big wage
there isn't a fan out there that wouldn't want hungry young players. They should be players the manager wants and selectss though. Again, nothing wrong with a tight budget, if that is the managers to spend his way.
Clearly the players coming in are coming irrespective of who the manager is.

It would be a huge gamble for someone already in a job. Someone out of work has little to lose.


Title: Re: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: kerry red on Friday, July 19, 2013, 16:11:53
What do the Watford fans make of it? Is there a similar thread on their fan forums?

The difference with Watford is that their owners own both clubs


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, July 19, 2013, 16:11:55
What do the Watford fans make of it? Is there a similar thread on their fan forums?
There are many threads on their forum about it and they actually quite like it as they get better players at their club for little outgoings.

They also enjoy the fact that they are disliked/hated throughout the Championship for doing it, at least they aren't anonymous like they used to be and have a fairly good team out of it too.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, July 19, 2013, 16:26:24
There are many threads on their forum about it and they actually quite like it as they get better players at their club for little outgoings.

They also enjoy the fact that they are disliked/hated throughout the Championship for doing it, at least they aren't anonymous like they used to be and have a fairly good team out of it too.

Oooh...wouldn't it be ace, if we do OK, so a few more Div 3/4 clubs hate us...there's got to a handful left.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Friday, July 19, 2013, 18:09:44
There are many threads on their forum about it and they actually quite like it as they get better players at their club for little outgoings.

They also enjoy the fact that they are disliked/hated throughout the Championship for doing it, at least they aren't anonymous like they used to be and have a fairly good team out of it too.

Thanks, back on a proper computer now and can see what you mean.

I guess then that our own fanbase will be the same should we be as successful with the Spurs kids. I don't think our fans are any better or worse than any others.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Friday, July 19, 2013, 20:18:30
Wonder what names the Adver are going to publish? Roll on 10pm....

Signed,

Bored.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: leefer on Friday, July 19, 2013, 20:26:10
Mike Newell?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Friday, July 19, 2013, 20:33:10
Mike Newell?

I think people would secretly love it just so they could EXPLODE with rage :)

 :blowup:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, July 19, 2013, 20:42:32
Wonder what names the Adver are going to publish? Roll on 10pm....

Signed,

Bored.

What's happening at 10?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Friday, July 19, 2013, 20:42:49
I think people would secretly love it just so they could EXPLODE with rage :)

 :blowup:

The meltdown on here would be quite a sight. I think the Adver uses would spontaneously combust.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Friday, July 19, 2013, 20:44:12
What's happening at 10?

Lyus from the Adver is giving a back page sneak preview with 'interesting names' for the job.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, July 19, 2013, 20:55:26
Cheers,

So bill Cosby, Ed balls and zippy from rainbow?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Friday, July 19, 2013, 20:56:34
Sir Les is now 1/3.

Quite a bit shorter than anyone has gone previously.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Friday, July 19, 2013, 20:59:20
Schmiechel and Jensen named by Adver as in the running:

https://twitter.com/AdverSportCraig/status/358329944327204866/photo/1


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Friday, July 19, 2013, 20:59:46
Bizarre.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Friday, July 19, 2013, 21:00:31
soapy tit wank


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Friday, July 19, 2013, 21:00:52
Schmiechel and Jensen named by Adver!

https://twitter.com/AdverSportCraig/status/358329944327204866/photo/1

Blimey.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Friday, July 19, 2013, 21:01:38
As joint managers or separately in the running?

Dunno, the pic in the link suggests they come as a package.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Friday, July 19, 2013, 21:02:33
Remember John Jenson having some early managerial success in Denmark, been a bit shit since, mind.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nemo on Friday, July 19, 2013, 21:02:45
Bet Schmeichel is a bit of a disciplinarian


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Friday, July 19, 2013, 21:04:15
A pinch of salt folks, a pinch of salt!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Sir Pissalot on Friday, July 19, 2013, 21:06:27
A pinch of salt folks, a pinch of salt!

But they could possibly save Jed's bacon... ;D


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Shaw Rosso on Friday, July 19, 2013, 21:06:51
Perhaps Schmeichel is a Spurs fan. What a shit headline


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: woolster on Friday, July 19, 2013, 21:10:12
Smokescreen


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Quagmire on Friday, July 19, 2013, 21:11:19
How many ex keeper are there as managers in football league?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Friday, July 19, 2013, 21:11:52
How many ex keeper are there as managers in football league?

Kevin Blackwell.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: woolster on Friday, July 19, 2013, 21:13:36
Taxi for Fraser


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Friday, July 19, 2013, 21:14:55
Taxi for Fraser

Ah they're buds from his loan spell in 1992/93.

Fraser would be fine.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Tails on Friday, July 19, 2013, 21:40:08
Bet Wes would love working with Schmeichel!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Friday, July 19, 2013, 21:47:54
2 random names but obviously well known. Not sure they are what we need though but then again im not even sure what we need.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: BruceChatwin on Friday, July 19, 2013, 21:52:51
This has come so far out of left-field I don't even know what I think of it right now.



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Friday, July 19, 2013, 22:02:10
This has come so far out of left-field I don't even know what I think of it right now.



Clearly the Adver are trying to get in to the clubs good graces by providing the odd 'red herring' story.

:)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Friday, July 19, 2013, 22:03:17
No fucking Danes. I couldn't handle that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-mOy8VUEBk

They can't even communicate with one another.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Ginginho on Friday, July 19, 2013, 22:10:21
That's a hatrick, sonicyouth, isn't it? For posting this video?
It still makes me laugh :)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Friday, July 19, 2013, 22:21:43
First time it's been relevant and it's 100% accurate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hy3EdPbxIAY

More evidence that Danish is just sounds


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Kinky Tom on Saturday, July 20, 2013, 01:15:03
It's nowhere near as bad a Swedish though is it.  At least when I hear Danish friends talk to each other I can pick out words, with the Swedish it's a bit like baby whales talking to each other.  Mostly pretty fit but.

Also Danes are way more fun as a rule.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, July 20, 2013, 01:24:21
No fucking Danes. I couldn't handle that.
They can't even communicate with one another.

My Bulgarian ladyfriend's daughter lives in Denmark...she speaks perfect English and German, but was required to pass some sort of test in speaking Danish, before being able to stay there. She just talks to the Danes in English though.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Red Frog on Saturday, July 20, 2013, 05:04:40
First time it's been relevant and it's 100% accurate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hy3EdPbxIAY

More evidence that Danish is just sounds

I'm crying, but in a good way.  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Saturday, July 20, 2013, 06:19:00
Its going to be Cooper isnt it :/


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: kerry red on Saturday, July 20, 2013, 06:29:31
He is the cheap option already on board the SS Tight-Ass

If it does turn out to be him we will know for certain that the board are only interested in spending as little as possible and bollocks to the playing side


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Saturday, July 20, 2013, 06:41:15
If its Cooper i dont know whether to laugh or cry. Worst appointment possible in my opinion.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Quagmire on Saturday, July 20, 2013, 06:56:36
I think it will be Tisdale, wouldn't be surprised if he flies over to Portugal next week.
You don't meet the board of a club regarding a job your not interested in twice.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 20, 2013, 07:02:40
If its Cooper i dont know whether to laugh or cry. Worst appointment possible in my opinion.

Cry. HTH.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Paolo69 on Saturday, July 20, 2013, 07:14:09
I like Tisdale. Surely it can't be Cooper!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 20, 2013, 07:31:07
I like Tisdale. Surely it can't be Cooper!
I don't want Cooper and I too want Tisdale but I can't see that we will pay the compensation that Exeter will want, wasn't there a slight fall out between ours and Exeters board over TAH transfer too? may not even be relevant as we have new owners but then again it may work against us in any potential dealings with them.

Its going to be Cooper isn't it?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, July 20, 2013, 07:32:33
I don't want Cooper and I too want Tisdale but I can't see that we will pay the compensation that Exeter will want, wasn't there a slight fall out between ours and Exeters board over TAH transfer too? may not even be relevant as we have new owners but then again it may work against us in any potential dealings with them.

Its going to be Cooper isn't it?

Don't you start as well  ;)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Samdy Gray on Saturday, July 20, 2013, 07:41:25
Just like that...

(http://i1.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article1741263.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Tommy%20Cooper-1741263.jpg)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Riddick on Saturday, July 20, 2013, 07:44:04
Like everyone else i do not want Cooper.

Tisdale for me, hopefully the fact they have met a couple of times means that may be what happens.

Did Tisdale have Shaun Taylor as a coach before he started working with Ling?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, July 20, 2013, 07:46:46
All this talk makes me want Mark Cooper to be appointed.

I'm a sucker for an underdog  :nod:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: kerry red on Saturday, July 20, 2013, 07:59:58
You could have worded that a bit better


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, July 20, 2013, 08:01:43
You could have worded that a bit better

Hahaha.

I really could have.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, July 20, 2013, 09:17:36
If Tisdale has met with the board twice then there is a very good chance he will be here before long.

Also, he has a link with Spurs: http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11675/6097959/Tisdale-keen-on-Spurs-link


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 20, 2013, 09:24:47
If Tisdale has met with the board twice then there is a very good chance he will be here before long.

Also, he has a link with Spurs: http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11675/6097959/Tisdale-keen-on-Spurs-link
Tisdales predecessor Alex Inglethorpe left Exeter to become youth coach at Spurs. Perryman's links are still very strong with Spurs, perhaps he lets Tisdale leave with his blessing because of of the link we have with Spurs and has recommended Tisdale?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Saturday, July 20, 2013, 09:33:39
Cooper would be a disappointing appointment but at least we'd have some continuity and he'll be cheap. I wonder if the board would bring in an assistant manager?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 20, 2013, 09:34:46
Cooper would be a disappointing appointment but at least we'd have some continuity and he'll be cheap. I wonder if the board would bring in an assistant manager?
Ward.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Saturday, July 20, 2013, 14:56:07
Have I missed something? Where was it confirmed that Tisdale has met with the board twice?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: RobertT on Saturday, July 20, 2013, 15:01:27
The adver article suggests that we have met with him.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, July 20, 2013, 15:30:31
Have I missed something? Where was it confirmed that Tisdale has met with the board twice?

Quote
while it is believed that Swindon have met with Exeter manager Paul Tisdale at least twice regarding the possibility of him making the switch to the County Ground.

http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/news/headlines/10560961.Schmeichel_and_Jensen_offered_to_Town_board/?ref=rss


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: RedRag on Saturday, July 20, 2013, 21:22:10
Whoever it is, he won't be KMac


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Sunday, July 21, 2013, 10:57:54
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/8833969/former-kilmarnock-boss-kenny-shiels-is-interested-in-swindon-managers-job


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, July 21, 2013, 11:04:58
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/8833969/former-kilmarnock-boss-kenny-shiels-is-interested-in-swindon-managers-job
Was well liked by Killie fans but I am not sure he is what we need, a managerial win rate of 30% is only marginally more than Malpas had prior to joining us.

He appears to be used to working with reduced budgets and young players though so that could work in his favour.

Kilmarnock fans thoughs on his sacking....
http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=313&fid=156&sty=2&act=1&mid=2112621858


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, July 21, 2013, 11:24:46
I know it was fairly recent and therefore probably appropriate as a comparison but we've got to stop comparing every Scotsman/unknown to poor ol' Maurice Malpas.

We'd never appoint a manager otherwise :)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Abrahammer on Sunday, July 21, 2013, 11:27:53
Rather have his one eyed son as a player.

Done an ok job at Killy and won't have spent a penny during his time there.  Bit of a cock as a bloke and likes kicking off in the media, not really the sort of yes man that I suspect our board are looking for.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, July 21, 2013, 11:55:21
I know it was fairly recent and therefore probably appropriate as a comparison but we've got to stop comparing every Scotsman/unknown to poor ol' Maurice Malpas.

We'd never appoint a manager otherwise :)
I only put the MM comparison in there because his previous management is at exactly the same level as Shiels professional managerial experience, I for one will not call him MM mkII or mk whatever.

But also as MM is a pretty uninspiring choice if it were to be him.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bob's Orange on Sunday, July 21, 2013, 12:12:21
Whoever it is, he won't be KMac

Thanks for the pearl of wisdom!! ;)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bob's Orange on Sunday, July 21, 2013, 12:14:19
Let's face it after mm, pretty much any Scottish manager on radar from the spl or Scottish leagues is never really going to be in favour with people on here!!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: leefer on Sunday, July 21, 2013, 12:19:24
The Football League have just announced on Twitter that Glenn Hoddle is in line for a return.

They are either slow on news or know something we dont.

Love it to be him back here,used to drool at the style of play he installed.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Sunday, July 21, 2013, 12:22:15
The Football League have just announced on Twitter that Glenn Hoddle is in line for a return.

They are either slow on news or know something we dont.

Love it to be him back here,used to drool at the style of play he installed.
He was watching the cricket this morning....And apparently bowls a mean away swinger.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Sunday, July 21, 2013, 12:24:24
Was he watching from somewhere in Portugal?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, July 21, 2013, 12:26:06
The Football League have just announced on Twitter that Glenn Hoddle is in line for a return.

They are either slow on news or know something we dont.

Love it to be him back here,used to drool at the style of play he installed.


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Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: axs on Sunday, July 21, 2013, 12:27:31
The Football League have just announced on Twitter that Glenn Hoddle is in line for a return.

They are either slow on news or know something we dont.

Love it to be him back here,used to drool at the style of play he installed.

You mean someone on Twitter who calls their account the Football League but posts any old rumour.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: leefer on Sunday, July 21, 2013, 12:30:32
Wondered why i couldn't find it on the Official Site :-[

Oh well...we can still dream :D


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Riddick on Sunday, July 21, 2013, 12:49:51
Lets hope the Sky story is complete crap, don't want him here thanks.

Think the board need to hurry up though, the week in portugal is key for bonding and the new manager needs to be there. I assume if it was an out of work manager they would be in place by now? Don't see why it would take a week to interview and employ if not contracted elsewhere. Hope therefore the delay and meetings Jed is having this weekend is for Tisdale.

The longer this drags on the worse the names are that are linked to the club!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DiV on Sunday, July 21, 2013, 12:51:51
Seen as we're selling and signing players without a manager is it really that important. Whoever it is won't be pulling the strings.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Riddick on Sunday, July 21, 2013, 13:03:05
Yeah dont like that we are buying without a manager. Selling i understand because of our finances.

Need the manager to motivate and make a 'team' though as well as tactically sorting them out.

The only player we are trying to sign without a manager is Church, who has the pedigree to be good at this level. The rest are loan players who financially make sense and the chances are they are better than anything else we can get.

Just pisses me off that this is dragging on and we'll give the manager a few days before the start of the season to get the team sorted. Should take less than a week to sort!



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Armyred78 on Sunday, July 21, 2013, 14:55:26
Would it be naive to think that perhaps we do have someone other than the board calling the shots and actually a manager has been sorted and has given an idea of who he wants and who he doesn't. So whilst we await an official announcement the board is doing some housekeeping. Too far fetched?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: adje on Sunday, July 21, 2013, 15:30:20
Lets hope the Sky story is complete crap, don't want him here thanks.



if you mean Hoddle-why?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Riddick on Sunday, July 21, 2013, 15:32:15
if you mean Hoddle-why?

No i mean i dont want Shiels here!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DRS on Sunday, July 21, 2013, 17:23:48
Who have we signed since Kmac left?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DiV on Sunday, July 21, 2013, 18:50:37
Ryan Mason a player our manager allegedly didn't want. Deal close to being confirmed according to the Adver.

Also we're chasing Obika publicly at least since KMac walked out.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: SwindonOldie on Sunday, July 21, 2013, 18:52:30
Could be a 1st - Ferdinand or Rambo on loan from Spurs   :D


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Tails on Sunday, July 21, 2013, 19:31:33
Ryan Mason a player our manager allegedly didn't want. Deal close to being confirmed according to the Adver.

Also we're chasing Obika publicly at least since KMac walked out.

we were chasing him while Kmac was here I think.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Sunday, July 21, 2013, 19:43:43
we were chasing him while Kmac was here I think.

But why would we still be chasing them with no manager? Unless the new man is a lot closer to being named and OK'd it, or has no say in the matter.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DRS on Sunday, July 21, 2013, 20:01:33
Ryan Mason a player our manager allegedly didn't want. Deal close to being confirmed according to the Adver.

Also we're chasing Obika publicly at least since KMac walked out.
So we havnt signed anyone then.Mason was offered,turnt down.Hopefully the new man gets the chance to take him


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, July 21, 2013, 20:04:18
Would people prefer it if we were not tracking players?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DiV on Sunday, July 21, 2013, 20:05:52
we were chasing him while Kmac was here I think.

Where we?

Perhaps we were chasing Mason but apparently KMac didnt want him. The Obika thing didnt become public till after KMac was gone, we could have been chasing him weeks or not.

Most rumours get out - but unless you have a list of all our transfer targets how do you know who we were after and when we started chasing them?

So we havnt signed anyone then.Mason was offered,turnt down.Hopefully the new man gets the chance to take him

So if KMac didnt want him...and now KMac is gone....why and who at the club are trying to get the deal done, according to the Adver (in which case it maybe well off paper talk)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DiV on Sunday, July 21, 2013, 20:07:36
Would people prefer it if we were not tracking players?

Whilst we dont have a manager.....yes, as I'd much rather the new manager got the opportunity to bring in the player he wants for his team.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Sunday, July 21, 2013, 20:14:17
I thought everyone had already decided that Power was signing all the players and that KMac/Mr Manager had no say in it?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DiV on Sunday, July 21, 2013, 20:16:33
I thought everyone had already decided that Power was signing all the players and that KMac/Mr Manager had no say in it?

The only people who can answer that for certain would be Mr. Power and Mr. KMac.

I think its the case but thats my opinion but I certainly cant scientifically prove it to be the correct opinion...


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Sunday, July 21, 2013, 20:20:22
The only people who can answer that for certain would be Mr. Power and Mr. KMac.

I think its the case but thats my opinion but I certainly cant scientifically prove it to be the correct opinion...
That doesn't usually stop people on here from proclaiming their interpretation of events as the "truth".

Honestly, I couldn't care who is signing the players. 90% of players at this level are either completely average or verging towards shit and picking up players to fill gaps is all teams at our level do. Unearthing a gem is a rare occasion and we've probably had better luck than most in recent years.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DiV on Sunday, July 21, 2013, 20:24:00
Where as I firmly believe the manager is the manager. Its his team, he identifies the players he wants, he builds the squad and he picks the players and formation.

Maybe its a tired outdated concept, that the manager is the manager these days.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, July 21, 2013, 20:29:22
I find it very hard to believe that Di Canio arrived at a League Two club and said: "Hey guys, first things first - Joe Devera and Jonathan Smith. Get them in!"

Managers get assistance within the transfer market all the time. Whether it's owners, agents, advisors or scouts.

This is not a big deal (to me).


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Sunday, July 21, 2013, 20:39:32
I find it very hard to believe that Di Canio arrived at a League Two club and said: "Hey guys, first things first - Joe Devera and Jonathan Smith. Get them in!"

Managers get assistance within the transfer market all the time. Whether it's owners, agents, advisors or scouts.

This is not a big deal (to me).
It was the players he was presumably left to choose himself that were the issue - Atiku, Comazzi, Lanzano, Esajas, Gabilondo, Magera.

The point I was making is that I don't think it matters that much who identifies targets at this level as there's an abundance of mediocrity out there to pluck from.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: singingiiiffy on Sunday, July 21, 2013, 20:58:59
But why would we still be chasing them with no manager? Unless the new man is a lot closer to being named and OK'd it, or has no say in the matter.

Mason agreed to sign Friday, will be confirmed in the morning by the club. Look at Chelsea's summer signings before mouriniho arrived, its not uncommon. As someone said clubs will always have advisors and aren't dependant on a manager finding a player


Title: Re: Re: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: herthab on Sunday, July 21, 2013, 21:05:34
Where as I firmly believe the manager is the manager. Its his team, he identifies the players he wants, he builds the squad and he picks the players and formation.

Maybe its a tired outdated concept, that the manager is the manager these days.
Charlie Austin.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DiV on Sunday, July 21, 2013, 21:27:17
Fitton spotted Austin but I'm sure Wilson would have watched him, scouting him and given the signings the thumbs up before a contract was offered.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Arriba on Sunday, July 21, 2013, 22:21:00
Fitton didn't spot Austin. He was already known to plenty of people.
A manager should be able to pick his own team though,  which doesn't apply to stfc currently.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Monday, July 22, 2013, 00:25:06
Fitton spotted Austin but I'm sure Wilson would have watched him, scouting him and given the signings the thumbs up before a contract was offered.

This is true, Fitton also recommended Austin and a couple of others known to Hungerford to Malpas too but he didn't fancy any of them. Pretty sure there was an article in the adver about it.

Can only find Sky Sports commenting on it http://www1.skysports.com/transfer-centre/scout/15198/5957179/Sky-Sports-Scout-Charlie-Austin


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ronnie21 on Monday, July 22, 2013, 07:24:21
Fitton spotted Austin but I'm sure Wilson would have watched him, scouting him and given the signings the thumbs up before a contract was offered.
I will not join the argument as to who "spotted" Mr Austin, but if Bournemouth had not been under a transfer embargo at the time we would not have got him!!  They must have spotted him first!!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Monday, July 22, 2013, 07:38:26
According to Austin's dad Swindon were watching Charlie Austin for 18 months. Initial interest was from old Hungerford chairman Andrew Fitton and Maurice Malpas.

Dum-dum-duuuuuuuuuum.

http://www.pitchero.com/clubs/hungerfordtownfc/news/interview-with-fred-austin-father-of-new-swindon-striker-charlie-austin-87616.html

You'll have to forgive me but I thought that, while it is true that he could/would/should have joined Bournemouth, Fitton's link to Austin's non-league career was all a part of the 'fairytale' rise and that this was pretty much common knowledge (from the press coverage that emerged when Austin was with us).


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Monday, July 22, 2013, 14:00:34
Less than 2 weeks till the start of the new season ...........

Surely there has to be an appointment in the next 48 hours doesnt there?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: STFCFORLIFE on Monday, July 22, 2013, 14:01:57
Cooperman will get the job, let meltdown cometh.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Monday, July 22, 2013, 14:02:33
Surely there has to be an appointment in the next 48 hours doesnt there?

Why 48 hours?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Cibocchi_Is_God on Monday, July 22, 2013, 14:06:46
Been away for a few days, thought I might come back to a new Swindon manager... Alas, no.

Where the hell did Schmeichel come from though? Would love a massive name like him, also quite interesting that we've met with Tisdale a couple of times, he was my first choice last time, would be an astute appointment.. Desperately hope that Cooper doesn't pip the likes of those guys to the job.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Monday, July 22, 2013, 14:10:03
Where the hell did Schmeichel come from though?

Denmark.

the adver understands.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, July 22, 2013, 14:10:43
Get yourselves ready for Cooper to be announced.

Then anyone else who is announced will be a pleasant surprise.

Any betting updates today? I might put a few quid on MC.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Monday, July 22, 2013, 14:12:37
Get yourselves ready for Cooper to be announced.



Yup. The cheap option will prove too tempting.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Monday, July 22, 2013, 14:13:02
Get yourselves ready for Cooper to be announced.

Then anyone else who is announced will be a pleasant surprise.

Any betting updates today? I might put a few quid on MC.

As they're in Portugal at the moment I'm expecting a reasonably quiet week.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, July 22, 2013, 14:13:48
Get yourselves ready for Cooper to be announced.

Then anyone else who is announced will be a pleasant surprise.

Any betting updates today? I might put a few quid on MC.
Ferdinand 4/6
Tisdale 9/4
Cooper 5/1
Hartley 6/1

from Skybet


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: flammableBen on Monday, July 22, 2013, 14:28:34
We should have appointed Tisdale every time since (and including) Malpas got the job


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Monday, July 22, 2013, 14:41:29
A part of the major appeal of Tisdale is his commitment to a small club project. We need a Paul Tisdale/Chris Wilder/Greg Abbott/Mark Yates guy.

No thrills, ample commitment to the cause and therefore, hopefully, stability.

... and yes I mentioned Wilder but not in the sense of joining Swindon (far from it). One could argue that Carlisle and Cheltenham 'punch above their weight' and Oxford for all their flaws have settled back in the Football League with relative ease while Exeter operate under a shoestring and up until recently were in League One against the odds.

The next appointment could well be considered 'dull' and it could be one of the most important at this club for many years.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, July 22, 2013, 14:47:42
Problem with that is most fans will say that they are still in league 2, Swindon should be the Championship blah blah blah.

Of course, promotion is always the plan but we all seem to have indulged in this desire a little too much. This is particularly true of Jeremy Wray and partly why we're in this situation right now.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: thedarkprince on Monday, July 22, 2013, 14:48:24
I'd like Tisdale too as he'd add a certain sartorial elegance that we've been missing since Paolo.





That and I live in Exeter so I could be very smug if it happened. 


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Monday, July 22, 2013, 14:50:38
Problem with that is most fans will say that they are still in league 2, Swindon should be the Championship blah blah blah.

Of course, promotion is always the plan but we all seem to have indulged in this desire a little too much. This is particularly true of Jeremy Wray and partly why we're in this situation right now.

I agree but if we appoint our 'Gary Johnson', someone who has done the business lower down the pyramid then all parties may be satisfied long term.

Some Town fans obsess with celebrity (not always on TEF) ahead of practicality.

Danny Wilson's return it is :)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: thepeoplesgame on Monday, July 22, 2013, 14:57:37
We should have appointed Tisdale every time since (and including) Malpas got the job


Agreed (although I'll let them off with Paolo).


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Riddick on Monday, July 22, 2013, 15:06:25
I know its important to get the right guy and i agree with this really

A part of the major appeal of Tisdale is his commitment to a small club project.

The next appointment could well be considered 'dull' and it could be one of the most important at this club for many years.

At the moment we've got a half complete squad and no manager and its less than 2 weeks till the start of the season. Is there no urgency from the board? No reason to be any longer delay if its going to be Cooper so can only hope that means it wont be him.

Maybe the delay is negotiating with Exeter/Tisdale. Maybe the Ryan Harley link is somebody Tisdale wants and they are on the case while they negotiate with Exeter?

This is the last real week of preseason, next week is preparing for first game like any other week in the season. Its integral to get someone out to portugal now to work with the players. Think our start is going to be terrible and it will be a fight from there on.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: kerry red on Monday, July 22, 2013, 15:11:07
A part of the major appeal of Tisdale is his commitment to a small club project. We need a Paul Tisdale/Chris Wilder/Greg Abbott/Mark Yates guy.

No thrills, ample commitment to the cause and therefore, hopefully, stability.

... and yes I mentioned Wilder but not in the sense of joining Swindon (far from it). One could argue that Carlisle and Cheltenham 'punch above their weight' and Oxford for all their flaws have settled back in the Football League with relative ease while Exeter operate under a shoestring and up until recently were in League One against the odds.

The next appointment could well be considered 'dull' and it could be one of the most important at this club for many years.

FFS - if you think a Wilder-type is what we need I'll slit my wrists now.

Oxford are a big club for the basement league - they should have risen on the back of winning the Conf before now - as much as it pains me to say it.

The longer he stays there, the happier I'll be


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DRS on Monday, July 22, 2013, 15:15:28
I know its important to get the right guy and i agree with this really

At the moment we've got a half complete squad and no manager and its less than 2 weeks till the start of the season. Is there no urgency from the board? No reason to be any longer delay if its going to be Cooper so can only hope that means it wont be him.

Maybe the delay is negotiating with Exeter/Tisdale. Maybe the Ryan Harley link is somebody Tisdale wants and they are on the case while they negotiate with Exeter?

This is the last real week of preseason, next week is preparing for first game like any other week in the season. Its integral to get someone out to portugal now to work with the players. Think our start is going to be terrible and it will be a fight from there on.

Whoah Whoah what?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Monday, July 22, 2013, 15:18:27
FFS - if you think a Wilder-type is what we need I'll slit my wrists now.

Oxford are a big club for the basement league - they should have risen on the back of winning the Conf before now - as much as it pains me to say it.

The longer he stays there, the happier I'll be

Drats! I desperately tried to avoid this reaction but alas...

When Chris Wilder was appointed, they were a Conference club struggling to get out. Oxford appointed him, they got out of Non-League and have settled back in the Football League adequately enough. This, no matter some Oxford fans will say, is better than trips to Histon in the League. We all know how fickle supporters can be, choosing to ignore the grand scheme of things so they can talk about that great era of whenever.

Our scenario is that we are a League One club restructuring to accommodate our current financial plan. Is it wise to appoint someone like Robbie Fowler and Peter Schmeichel with zero experience and no open cheque book or is it sensible to appoint a seasoned pro with these restrictions?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, July 22, 2013, 15:21:30
Can someone lump a load of money on Ståle Solbakken or Henning Berg? I want to see a Norwegian in the Adver.



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: london_red on Monday, July 22, 2013, 15:24:36
When Chris Wilder was appointed, they were a Conference club struggling to get out. Oxford appointed him, they got out of Non-League and have settled back in the Football League adequately enough. This, no matter some Oxford fans will say, is better than trips to Histon in the League. We all know how fickle supporters can be, choosing to ignore the grand scheme of things so they can talk about that great era of whenever.

Our scenario is that we are a League One club restructuring to accommodate our current financial plan. Is it wise to appoint someone like Robbie Fowler and Peter Schmeichel with zero experience and no open cheque book or is it sensible to appoint a seasoned pro with these restrictions?

Bang on


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: kerry red on Monday, July 22, 2013, 15:26:04
Drats! I desperately tried to avoid this reaction but alas...

When Chris Wilder was appointed, they were a Conference club struggling to get out. Oxford appointed him, they got out of Non-League and have settled back in the Football League adequately enough. This, no matter some Oxford fans will say, is better than trips to Histon in the League. We all know how fickle supporters can be, choosing to ignore the grand scheme of things so they can talk about that great era of whenever.

Our scenario is that we are a League One club restructuring to accommodate our current financial plan. Is it wise to appoint someone like Robbie Fowler and Peter Schmeichel with zero experience and no open cheque book or is it sensible to appoint a seasoned pro with these restrictions?


I have no problem with you citing Wilder, it's just that he has had a decent budget for League 2 for the past few seasons and they appear to have stagnated.

You appear to be advocating more than one season of mind numbing mediocrity


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Monday, July 22, 2013, 15:27:07
Lets just appoint Hope Powell and be done with it!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: kaufman on Monday, July 22, 2013, 15:28:33
I really hope it's Tisdale, but he just seems to be getting on with his job at Exeter and nothing out their way is suggesting he's coming to us.

Hope I'm wrong


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DiV on Monday, July 22, 2013, 15:30:35
Hmm, I'm not against a been there done that 'boring' managerial appointment but it has to be the right one.

Sturrock was a good choice when we signed him and I wouldn't be against Tisdale at all.

However, you have to draw the line somewhere. 2 years ago people on here wanted George Burley citing things he'd done 10 years previous.

If its a boring appointment it has to somebody who still has something to give who isn't a has been journey man desperate to squeeze as much money out of the last remains of his career before he is done.

The upside to appointing a rookie, is they have to make it work here otherwise that could well be their career done and dusted. However, this usually means some experienced back room staff - KMac was never offered this it would seem. So would a new rookie be able to bring in a team?

Would a Tisdale be allowed to bring in a team?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Monday, July 22, 2013, 15:32:39
Cooper is here either as manager or ass manager ... Just depends if Jed can find anyone cheaper!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Monday, July 22, 2013, 15:35:00

I have no problem with you citing Wilder, it's just that he has had a decent budget for League 2 for the past few seasons and they appear to have stagnated.

You appear to be advocating more than one season of mind numbing mediocrity

Yes. They've yo-yo'd in League 2. Drifting around mid-table in 2010/11, missing out on the Play-Offs in 2011/12 and seemingly very poor last season. This campaign could be make or break for Oxford and they've been supported well enough but other clubs have been down there with bigger budgets (Bradford, Swindon, Rotherham, Crawley) and have eclipsed what they've got and acheived.

Either way, my primary point is not about Oxford United, it's about bringing in somebody who knows the job/challenge and will be willing to stay for the long-haul.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, July 22, 2013, 15:35:24
Would a Tisdale be allowed to bring in a team?

Yeah....Spurs under 17's

I see Gordon Greer has made the Sweatie squad for the forthcoming friendly v England....Caddis must be shite as he's not there, and they've even got a player with no club atm.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DiV on Monday, July 22, 2013, 15:37:46
By team I meant backroom staff but hey ho...


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, July 22, 2013, 15:41:01
By team I meant backroom staff but hey ho...


Yes I did realise DV...


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: blinkpip on Monday, July 22, 2013, 17:05:58
Stick Trollope in if were going for the cheapest option.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Monday, July 22, 2013, 17:29:12
Stick Trollope in if were going for the cheapest option.

Another manager who has looked under the guidance of somebody else.

He's probably enjoying his cushy gig at Norwich far too much to trouble himself with the trials and tribulations of lower league football!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Arriba on Monday, July 22, 2013, 18:15:16
Although Tisdale may appeal to some of us, why would stfc appeal to him?
Can't see it happening myself.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Cibocchi_Is_God on Monday, July 22, 2013, 18:40:49
Although Tisdale may appeal to some of us, why would stfc appeal to him?
Can't see it happening myself.

- Stagnating at Exeter (take them as far as he can?)
- No other offers, his stock has gone down since relegation.
- Larger club, with a larger wage bill in a league he has worked in before.
- Working under severe financial constraints at Exeter.. Probably worse than here.
- Lived in the Swindon/surrounding area before.

There are all sorts of reasons why STFC might appeal to him, factors pushing him away from Exeter and those pulling him toward Swindon.. Pretty sure I even saw an article a few weeks back with him saying that he could only sign one player at Exeter this summer..


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: dalumpimunki on Monday, July 22, 2013, 18:47:37
Although Tisdale may appeal to some of us, why would stfc appeal to him?
Can't see it happening myself.

Because Swindon on a sustainable budget, in league one, with crowds of 7500 - 8000, gives him more scope than Exeter on a sustainable budget, in league two, with crowds of less than 4000.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: STFCFORLIFE on Monday, July 22, 2013, 18:55:10
Irrelevant I think as the board will appoint Cooper or someone linked to Tottenham, I'd love Tisdale here but I very much doubt he will be our new manager.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Monday, July 22, 2013, 19:00:39
Irrelevant I think as the board will appoint Cooper or someone linked to Tottenham, I'd love Tisdale here but I very much doubt he will be our new manager.

Personally I don't think it's irrelevant to discuss a potential manager who has reportedly gone as far as to meet the current board.

If it's Mark Cooper then it's the cheap option and if it's currently employed member of Tottenham's coaching staff then maybe our relationship is a little more than an arrangement (ie a possible yet odd attempt at being Spurs B). Time will tell... I just hope time can hurry up so we can make our peace with the appointment and move on.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, July 22, 2013, 19:05:28
Tisdale makes a lot of sense to me, for a number of reasons.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Arriba on Monday, July 22, 2013, 19:21:28
Tisdale is comfortable at Exeter though. Why risk that and come here? There isn't evidence of a budget here yet. It looks like a similar job to the obe he has but with more of a gamble on his part. We had a manager remember who walked out. For anyone in a jobi think we are currently a risky proposition


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DMR on Monday, July 22, 2013, 19:26:08
Only read this last page and everyone's going on about Tisdale?

Have we been linked with him?

I'll give Herthab a rusty trombone if that happens. Absolutely no chance.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, July 22, 2013, 19:28:17
Only read this last page and everyone's going on about Tisdale?

Have we been linked with him?

I'll give Herthab a rusty trombone if that happens. Absolutely no chance.

According to Morshead he has met with the board at least twice.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: RobertT on Monday, July 22, 2013, 21:15:30
Tisdale is comfortable at Exeter though. Why risk that and come here? There isn't evidence of a budget here yet. It looks like a similar job to the obe he has but with more of a gamble on his part. We had a manager remember who walked out. For anyone in a jobi think we are currently a risky proposition

I think you are letting logic get in the way again.  Footballer and Managers all jump ship and join basket case clubs because they don't really pay that much attention.

As for Tisdale, there was an interview with him and he didn't rule out a move, he said something along the lines of he has a great job right now so if he moved it would need to be a good move for him.  He also mentioned Swindon keep getting linked because it is close to him.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: flammableBen on Monday, July 22, 2013, 22:22:52
I think that Tisdale has gone done as much as he can with Exeter, possibly. Over the years he's turned down jobs much more attractive than the current STFC set up. But timing blah blah blah.

I'd have like to see him under fitton in a wonderful open magic land of transparrent football runnings. But it obviously wasn't to be.

Think we might be too late for this party.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, July 22, 2013, 22:49:35
I think that Tisdale has gone done as much as he can with Exeter, possibly.

I'm glad you added possibly....Tisdale if he has anything about him should be looking to emulate someone like Guy Roux at Auxerre, who managed 44 years as boss having previously played for them for 9 years. Roux got them from non league to European football...his palmares include winning the Inter-Toto Cup....oh and discovering Eric Cantona.

Maybe Tisdale isn't that great...I know this may come as a shock to you.

I think we should go for one of Newell's old boys....Gerardo Martino


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, July 22, 2013, 23:11:56
According to Morshead he has met with the board at least twice.

I think it was after the second meeting they decided they didn't want his company in Portugal...disappointingly for a journo, can't handle his drink.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: @mwooly63 on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 08:36:25
IF Power is indeed pulling the strings and acting as a DoF then I see a coach and nothing more coming in
Cooper fits that bill esp as already here and the cheapest option

Not something I would be happy with but the board has got to act quick. 2 weeks to go and an unfinished team half of which are left behind on a team "bonding" exercise abroad.

Am pretty sure those that didnt go are hardly going to be happy with the situation knowing they dont figure in future plans, can understand the injured players staying but not going to make for a harmonious squad.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: leefer on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 09:04:40
Surely if it was Cooper they would have appointed him ASAP.

If it is Cooper then that smacks of last resort to me.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 09:08:02
Surely if it was Cooper they would have appointed him ASAP.

If it is Cooper then that smacks of last resort to me.

Why, he's doing the job and being paid asst manager wages...string it out a bit longer and make a saving.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 09:08:35
Guus Hiddink is available ;)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: leefer on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 09:13:04
Why, he's doing the job and being paid asst manager wages...string it out a bit longer and make a saving.

Being serious here,he may even have to take a pay cut.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 09:23:06
Being serious here,he may even have to take a pay cut.

Well the Board know Cooper is desperate, so they could call him Interim Manager and pay him less than Asst Manager....while Power does the job. Sorted innit.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: leefer on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 09:26:44
To be honest giving it to Cooper may not be a bad thing.
He knows the players well now and who knows may prove a lot of his doubters wrong.
His past record is not brilliant,but then we are in no position to go for managers with good records.

Maybe we should give Cooper the job....just like that.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 09:29:11
To be honest giving it to Cooper may not be a bad thing.
He knows the players well now and who knows may prove a lot of his doubters wrong.
His past record is not brilliant,but then we are in no position to go for managers with good records.

Maybe we should give Cooper the job....just like that.

 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

I thought you were being serious for a moment there  :)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 09:30:02
I like most on here have never heard Power speak but I reckon he's a cunt!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: leefer on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 09:32:03
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gropecunt_Lane

Gropecunt Lane in old Oxford :D


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Dozno9 on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 09:38:37
Just looking at some stats at these are the average time (in seasons) for a manager:

Barclays Premier League  1.76  
npower Championship  1.06  
npower League One  1.45  
npower League Two  1.71

Shockingly low really given these are the average.

*

Added the Swindon stats:

Longest Serving Manager

Sam Allen - 31 years
1902 - 1933
 
Total Number Of Managers
 
Since Inception  33  
This Season  1  
Previous 5 Seasons  5  
Previous 10 Season  9  
 
Avg Duration Of Managers
 
Overall  3.16  
Since Premier League  1.27  
Previous 5 Seasons  1.05  
Previous 10 Seasons  1.23  
Previous 20 Seasons  1.21  
 


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 09:39:22
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gropecunt_Lane

Gropecunt Lane in old Oxford :D

SBC should rename Manchester Road....


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: leefer on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 09:49:38
Just looking at some stats at these are the average time (in seasons) for a manager:

Barclays Premier League  1.76 
npower Championship  1.06 
npower League One  1.45 
npower League Two  1.71

Shockingly low really given these are the average.

*

Added the Swindon stats:

Longest Serving Manager

Sam Allen - 31 years
1902 - 1933
 
Total Number Of Managers
 
Since Inception  33 
This Season  1 
Previous 5 Seasons  5 
Previous 10 Season  9 
 
Avg Duration Of Managers
 
Overall  3.16 
Since Premier League  1.27 
Previous 5 Seasons  1.05 
Previous 10 Seasons  1.23 
Previous 20 Seasons  1.21 
 


Interesting that.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 10:30:08
It's a bit tricky when our last two managers have walked but whoever we appoint I hope we stick with them long enough to give us some fucking stability.

But it won't happen.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 10:35:32
Just looking at some stats at these are the average time (in seasons) for a manager:

Barclays Premier League  1.76  
npower Championship  1.06  
npower League One  1.45  
npower League Two  1.71

Shockingly low really given these are the average.

*

Added the Swindon stats:

Longest Serving Manager

Sam Allen - 31 years
1902 - 1933
 
Total Number Of Managers
 
Since Inception  33  
This Season  1  
Previous 5 Seasons  5  
Previous 10 Season  9  
 
Avg Duration Of Managers
 
Overall  3.16  
Since Premier League  1.27  
Previous 5 Seasons  1.05  
Previous 10 Seasons  1.23  
Previous 20 Seasons  1.21  
 


Nine managers in 10 years, three of whom didn't manage 20 games, two didn't last a full league season of 46 matches, one barely scraped over that mark and three who were given time and took us to the promotion and/or the play-offs.

It's a bit of a loose argument but that's my argument for longevity!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 11:06:40
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gropecunt_Lane

Gropecunt Lane in old Oxford :D

There used to be a Bollocks Terrace in Tooting.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 11:43:05
Well the Board know Cooper is desperate, so they could call him Interim Manager and pay him less than Asst Manager....while Power does the job. Sorted innit.

Just catching up, where has Cooper said he is desparate for the job under any terms?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ronnie21 on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 11:46:21
I like most on here have never heard Power speak but I reckon he's a cunt!
Why?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 11:54:39
Why?
The fear of the unknown I recon.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 12:08:00
The fear of the unknown I recon.
Sam said on Twitter that he'd texted Power today regarding comment/interview.

So many simple things that are completely puzzling lately, not least that we get a comment from a non-exec board member but total silence from the club and the man himself regarding the DoF role. Are the board really stupid enough to think we're as naive as that?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 12:10:40
Just catching up, where has Cooper said he is desparate for the job under any terms?

Cooper's last two gigs have been at Kettering and Telford....2 clubs who make us look like a model of good management and stability....sort of thing where you get a month contract and getting paid is a wing and a prayer. Not the sort of actions of a man who can be too picky.

Fair play to him though a job is a job and it keeps you in the loop...I'm sure he'd be more than happy to put up with Power, for a 1 year contract.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 12:16:38
The fear of the unknown I recon.
Suspect it's more likely Power's track record which could politely be described as "spotty"


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 12:25:44
Cooper's last two gigs have been at Kettering and Telford....2 clubs who make us look like a model of good management and stability....sort of thing where you get a month contract and getting paid is a wing and a prayer. Not the sort of actions of a man who can be too picky.

Fair play to him though a job is a job and it keeps you in the loop...I'm sure he'd be more than happy to put up with Power, for a 1 year contract.

Thanks Reg, that clarifies matters.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 12:27:31
Suspect it's more likely Power's track record which could politely be described as "spotty"

I prefer to think of it as Diamandisesque!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 12:28:12
In response to your vanishing post fcb, the answer is no.



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 12:54:13
You don't send an interim on an overseas bonding exercise unless they're going to remain at the club in some capacity, right? Perhaps you do.

I expect Cooper to remain, still think the club are going to appoint someone else though. Either way, I doubt it'll announced until they return from Portugal.

When is that by the way?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 12:56:31
You don't send an interim on an overseas bonding exercise unless they're going to remain at the club in some capacity, right? Perhaps you do.

I expect Cooper to remain, still think the club are going to appoint someone else though. Either way, I doubt it'll announced until they return from Portugal.

When is that by the way?

I'd also be interested to know what matches we are playing when in Portugal.

So to clarify -

1. When do we return from Portugal?
2. What matches are we playing in Portugal?
3. When are the matches?

Thanks in advance.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 12:56:42
When is that by the way?

Got to be in here somewhere..

http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 13:04:10
They are playing a spurs development team this evening according to a tweet from luongo


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ronnie21 on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 13:05:30
I prefer to think of it as Diamandisesque!
so are you saying that Power is only here to line his own pockets and nothing else . . . because that was what the big far greek did!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 13:09:56
so are you saying that Power is only here to line his own pockets and nothing else . . . because that was what the big far greek did!

Power might be one up on Diamandis then.  Diamond Mike never wanted to manage the team from the back seat did he?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: london_red on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 13:15:24
Some quality conclusions been jumped to lately on here. Also can someone explain the incredible vitriol (more so on twitter to be fair) at the prospect of Cooper getting the job full time?

Getting a bit weary of swathes of our fanbase's sense of entitlement to things being done the way they want - in terms of players being signed, appointing a new manager (it's barely been a week FFS) and an expectation of a constant stream of updates from a team bonding trip that - shockingly for a football team nearing a new season - might include some football matches.



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: thepeoplesgame on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 13:16:04
so are you saying that Power is only here to line his own pockets and nothing else . . . because that was what the big far greek did!

If Power wants to be trusted he should stop operating in the shadows.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: singingiiiffy on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 13:36:30
You don't send an interim on an overseas bonding exercise unless they're going to remain at the club in some capacity, right? Perhaps you do.

I expect Cooper to remain, still think the club are going to appoint someone else though. Either way, I doubt it'll announced until they return from Portugal.

When is that by the way?

Of course you do! He is assistant manager and is still employed by the club. If he didn't go...there isn't anyone else!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 14:09:48
If Power wants to be trusted he should stop operating in the shadows.

This


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ronnie21 on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 14:56:59
Power might be one up on Diamandis then.  Diamond Mike never wanted to manage the team from the back seat did he?
Ha ha!! 


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 15:04:14
Does anyone remember that QPR documentary the 4 year plan?

I reckon Power is a downmarket version of Briatore .... He'll be training the team and sending his gopher AKA Jed rushing down to the touchline to get the new 'manager' to make subs or tactical changes


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: kaufman on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 21:35:41
Reading sam's tweets saying highly doubtful it will be tisdale and probably not cooper or even Ferdinand.

Managers job just took a new twist I think.



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: otanswell on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 21:56:13
It's me


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: THE FLASH on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 22:13:19
How long did it take us to get Wilson in after Hapless Malpas?

Dicky Dosh was in the frame....

Can the record be beaten?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 22:31:15
Reading sam's tweets saying highly doubtful it will be tisdale and probably not cooper or even Ferdinand.

Managers job just took a new twist I think.


Schmeichel and Jensen then.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: @MacPhlea on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 22:54:57
Or Mr H... ;)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 23:08:43
Andy king


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 23:14:40
Andy king

If things go as bad as some fear then I'd trust him to keep us up.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 06:42:02
Cooper's last two gigs have been at Kettering and Telford....

Also worth noting during those two gigs his win percentage was 0% and his loss percentage was 83%






































(6 games, 1 draw, 5 defeats)




Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 08:20:16
How long did it take us to get Wilson in after Hapless Malpas?

Malpas sacked - 14 November 2008
Wilson appointed - 26 December 2008

Sorry if that was rhetorical.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: phelpsieboy on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 08:31:14
Also worth noting during those two gigs his win percentage was 0% and his loss percentage was 83%






































(6 games, 1 draw, 5 defeats)



But do you actualy know the circumstances of both of those jobs?
Both teams were up absolute shit creek having to resort to using no hopers or youth team players. Even Sir Alrx would have struggled under those circumstances.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 08:43:12
But do you actualy know the circumstances of both of those jobs?
Both teams were up absolute shit creek having to resort to using no hopers or youth team players. Even Sir Alrx would have struggled under those circumstances.
Similar situation that we find ourselves in (if you believe some of the hysteria amongst the fan base).

Has Jed thought about luring Sir Alex out of retirement?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: leefer on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 08:44:36
Schmeichel and Jensen then.

Chris Ramsey.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 08:44:46
Tim Sherwood has been backed from 18/1 to 2/1 joint fav now.  Bizarre!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 08:45:31
Has Jed thought about luring Sir Alex out of retirement?
Fleming? hes dead isnt he?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 08:48:29
But do you actualy know the circumstances of both of those jobs?
Both teams were up absolute shit creek having to resort to using no hopers or youth team players. Even Sir Alrx would have struggled under those circumstances.

DV is backing up a point made a couple of pages back, that Cooper is desperate for a job. Horlock, questioned this....never having heard Cooper say "I'm desperate for a job"


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: leefer on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 08:49:23
Fleming? hes dead isnt he?

Confirmed...and buried with his son in Sevenhampton Churchyard near South Marston.
I believe his son died as a young man of a drugs overdose.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Riddick on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 08:57:24
Tim Sherwood has been backed from 18/1 to 2/1 joint fav now.  Bizarre!

There would be something a little championship manager like of Sherwood loaning us 4 of his best u21 players and then leaving to take over as manager!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 09:00:56
There would be something a little championship manager like of Sherwood loaning us 4 of his best u21 players and then leaving to take over as manager!

Is it within the rules for a coach to have a job at 2 different clubs?  Sherwood, could be named as our manager, whilst retaining his Spurs job, allowing Power to make the decisions, and Cooper to carry cones and act as gopher.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 09:01:20
DV is backing up a point made a couple of pages back, that Cooper is desperate for a job. Horlock, questioned this....never having heard Cooper say "I'm desperate for a job"
In an interview prior to the Spurs match, Cooper said:

'I've got a contract. I want to work. I want to stay and work with the group that we've got.'

Not a statement of a 'desperate' man but maybe of someone who in happy in his job.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: leefer on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 09:04:33
Maybe we should start getting managers on loan.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: kaufman on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 09:04:44
I think the idea is Sherwood would not be leaving spurs just working for them but at our club.
Not sure how a situation like this would pan out should results not go his way.

No doubt we've been given their best crop of youngsters I'm just not sure how much of our historical soul will be lost.

I'm aware we might not have had a club without this board coming in to save us but we are Swindon Town.





Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 09:43:47
I think the idea is Sherwood would not be leaving spurs just working for them but at our club.
Not sure how a situation like this would pan out should results not go his way.

No doubt we've been given their best crop of youngsters I'm just not sure how much of our historical soul will be lost.

I'm aware we might not have had a club without this board coming in to save us but we are Swindon Town.

I was kind of joking when I posted something like this previously, but in the current climate, it does start to make some bizarre sense.  If it did materialise then I shudder to think at the flak that would be flying if it goes tits up. Could be the West Country's first insurrection since the Pitchfork Rebellion of 1685.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: kaufman on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 09:50:28
It's just Paramount that we keep our identity

Financially it all makes perfect sense, i can't deny that.
If it is Sherwood i want to see him, Power and Jed sat there explaining in complete clarity the relationship with Spurs.
This is something the Trust have to investigate if they don't

I'm excited by it in many ways, i just want to know where my club whom have such a great history, is heading with it's identity and ethos.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: leefer on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 09:51:41
I was kind of joking when I posted something like this previously, but in the current climate, it does start to make some bizarre sense.  If it did materialise then I shudder to think at the flak that would be flying if it goes tits up. Could be the West Country's first insurrection since the Pitchfork Rebellion of 1685.

(http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/ad185/swindon123/pitch_zpse55eea97.jpg) (http://s934.photobucket.com/user/swindon123/media/pitch_zpse55eea97.jpg.html)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 10:27:41
Maybe we should start getting managers on loan.
If we lose this case against Di Canio and knowing how arbitrary and petty the football authorities can be, I wouldn't be surprised if we were banned from hiring managers or something absurd like that.

"If you can't look after your managers then you're not allowed to have any at all!"


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 10:28:18
If we lose this case against Di Canio and knowing how arbitrary and petty the football authorities can be, I wouldn't be surprised if we were banned from hiring managers or something absurd like that.

"If you can't look after your managers then you're not allowed to have any at all!"

Just do what Brighton have done and appoint someone for the newly created position of "Head Coach" in no way replacing Poyet


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Honkytonk on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 10:31:04
If we lose this case against Di Canio and knowing how arbitrary and petty the football authorities can be, I wouldn't be surprised if we were banned from hiring managers or something absurd like that.

"If you can't look after your managers then you're not allowed to have any at all!"

With our history with the FA and FL (particularly recently with that fun game "embargo embargo embargo"), that honestly would not surprise me.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 10:41:17
 A Board, not employing a manager due to financial constraints, and preferring to do it themselves, does have a bit of history at STFC.....55/56 season, we finished bottom of Div 3 S....re-election safely negotiated, ( we got 42 votes, fuck off PBoro, you only got 8, Headington got 0 mind), the Board carried on with their strategy, a terrible start to 56/57, forced a rethink and Bert Head stepped in to a job with few takers.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 10:43:53
How did re-election work? Other clubs simply voted for the club they liked best in some form of old school X-Factor thing?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 10:48:30
How did re-election work? Other clubs simply voted for the club they liked best in some form of old school X-Factor thing?

At that time it was Div3 S and Div 3 N.  In 56 Yeovil got nil point, like Headington....infinitely less than Boston United and Gloucester City.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 10:49:40
That doesn't answer the question you senile old twat


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 10:50:05
How did re-election work? Other clubs simply voted for the club they liked best in some form of old school X-Factor thing?
Pretty much, they voted for their friends is how it seemed when I read about it.

If you had a falling out with one club over the transfer of a player etc then you couldn't bank on them voting you in the league at the end of the season...or beyond if you finished in the bottom 2/3 of the league each season.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ronnie21 on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 10:50:59
How did re-election work? Other clubs simply voted for the club they liked best in some form of old school X-Factor thing?
Bottom two clubs in the fourth division, or the bottom of the old the old south and north divisions had to apply for re-election.  There was no automatic promotion/relegation but it was always the old pals act and the bottom club(s) stayed in the league.  Only when a team actually left the league a la Accrington Stanley did a new club get promoted!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 10:51:47
Was it like Eurovision where you vote for your neighbours?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 10:51:53
Here is a breakdown of each seasons voting....

http://www.nonleaguematters.co.uk/forum/gforum.cgi?do=post_attachment;postatt_id=3506;


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Riddick on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 12:54:17
So the only odds shortening (not that it means anything) are for Sherwood.

Can't be many more Swindon fans that are still betting on this, unless some of you have got money on a lot of them.

Interested mainly in just why people are now backing Sherwood.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: leefer on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 12:55:13
I have heard rumours that Sherwood is off to Forest.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: The Great Stan on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 12:58:17
So the only odds shortening (not that it means anything) are for Sherwood.

Can't be many more Swindon fans that are still betting on this, unless some of you have got money on a lot of them.

Interested mainly in just why people are now backing Sherwood.

Cos he's in Portugal overseeing our squad?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 12:58:26
I have heard rumours that Sherwood is off to Forest.

Taking his merry men with him?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Riddick on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 13:01:01
Cos he's in Portugal overseeing our squad?

Its possible i guess


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ronnie21 on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 13:07:04
Here is a breakdown of each seasons voting....

http://www.nonleaguematters.co.uk/forum/gforum.cgi?do=post_attachment;postatt_id=3506;
Just goes to show my memory is going!!  Could not remember that four clubs faced re-election when Div. 4 came into being!!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 13:15:19
Just do what Brighton have done and appoint someone for the newly created position of "Head Coach" in no way replacing Poyet

Exactly as we did with Roy Evans? Andy King was our manager the whole time, Evans was classed as Director of Football


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: china red on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 15:28:24
Only a week and a half until the new season starts, lets hope we have a new managr by then!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Power to people on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 15:56:02
You mean a new coach - a manager get's to pick his own players and his own tactics, we only sign spurs players and will probably play the spurs formation of 4-2-3-1


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 17:16:27
You mean a new coach - a manager get's to pick his own players and his own tactics, we only sign spurs players and will probably play the spurs formation of 4-2-3-1

This has pretty much been guaranteed.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Riddick on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 17:19:53
Its one of the formations a lot of top teams use, will be waiting for the fans to see us play with 1 up top, call it negative and then blame spurs. To be expected by a lot of the morons down at the CG.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 17:40:40
Its one of the formations a lot of top teams use, will be waiting for the fans to see us play with 1 up top, call it negative and then blame spurs. To be expected by a lot of the morons down at the CG.

If the top teams use it, then it must work for everyone.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Tails on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 18:25:31
Its a pretty useful formation if you use it right to be fair!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 18:33:26
I'm not disagreeing, just saying I have no idea if it will work or not. I can't imagine we will be rigid with it anyway.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 18:34:24
I'm not disagreeing, just saying I have no idea if it will work or not. I can't imagine we will be rigid with it anyway.
won't be our choice whether we're rigid, fluid, erect, flaccid, whatever. Spurs run the show don'tcha know


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 18:42:07
Just when I thought bloody Sloop John B might be put out to pasture, it get's a new use.

"We are Swindon, we do what Spurs want"


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: woolster on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 18:44:55
Just when I thought bloody Sloop John B might be put out to pasture, it get's a new use.

"We are Swindon, we do what Spurs want"
:toocool:


Title: Re: Re: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: london_red on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 18:51:11
I'm not disagreeing, just saying I have no idea if it will work or not. I can't imagine we will be rigid with it anyway.

Exactly, we don't know if the formation will work, if all these signings will be any good, how much autonomy the new manager will have...

There's so many unknowns at the moment it will be an interesting start to the season that's for sure.

Views seem to have become particularly polarised over the summer but we're not long from finding out the short term direction we'll be going in.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 18:52:17
Just when I thought bloody Sloop John B might be put out to pasture, it get's a new use.

"We were Swindon, now we do what Spurs want"

Fixed it for you.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Gibbons on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 20:25:33
I was kind of joking when I posted something like this previously, but in the current climate, it does start to make some bizarre sense.  If it did materialise then I shudder to think at the flak that would be flying if it goes tits up. Could be the West Country's first insurrection since the Pitchfork Rebellion of 1685.

Digressing for a moment... my knowledge of the Pitchfork Rebellion was somewhat lacking (i.e. I'd never heard of it) so I had the obligatory look at Wikipedia.

Was amused by this paragraph on the Bloody Assizes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Assizes) page:

Quote
Over 1,000 rebels were in prison awaiting the trials, which started in Winchester on 26 August.[1] The first notable trial was that of an elderly gentlewoman named Dame Alice Lyle.[2] The jury reluctantly found her guilty, and, the law recognising no distinction between principals and accessories in treason, she was sentenced to be burned. This was commuted to beheading, with the sentence being carried out in Winchester market-place on 2 September 1685.[1]


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: BruceChatwin on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 20:30:41
Its one of the formations a lot of top teams use, will be waiting for the fans to see us play with 1 up top, call it negative and then blame spurs. To be expected by a lot of the morons down at the CG.

The problem with that formation (4-2-3-1) is you need a player who'll excel playing up top on his own to make it work.

Top teams can afford the sort of players (Messi, Van Persie, Suarez, Lewandowski, Aguero, Mandzukic etc.) that make it fluid and effective at the top level, but have any teams made a success of it at our level, with the sort of quality of player we can afford?

As it stands, it looks like we're heading into the new season with Williams as our first choice in that role.

Does anyone believe, based on what we saw of him in that position during the experiments with formations at the end of last season, that he's strong enough/ intelligent enough/ has a good enough first touch (key attributes in that position in my opinion) to act as the central figurehead through which we build our attacks?

In my opinion these are the 3 attributes his game is most lacking.



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: TheMajorSTFC on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 20:50:41
Haven't been keeping too much of an eye on this lately, is the favourite still someone who is/has had Spurs links?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 21:11:51
The problem with that formation (4-2-3-1) is you need a player who'll excel playing up top on his own to make it work.

Top teams can afford the sort of players (Messi, Van Persie, Suarez, Lewandowski, Aguero, Mandzukic etc.) that make it fluid and effective at the top level, but have any teams made a success of it at our level, with the sort of quality of player we can afford?

As it stands, it looks like we're heading into the new season with Williams as our first choice in that role.

Does anyone believe, based on what we saw of him in that position during the experiments with formations at the end of last season, that he's strong enough/ intelligent enough/ has a good enough first touch (key attributes in that position in my opinion) to act as the central figurehead through which we build our attacks?

In my opinion these are the 3 attributes his game is most lacking.


But misses the attribute most lacking - heart.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: woolster on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 21:17:56
But misses the attribute most lacking - heart.
Nail hit


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DiV on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 08:41:04
The problem with that formation (4-2-3-1) is you need a player who'll excel playing up top on his own to make it work.

Top teams can afford the sort of players (Messi, Van Persie, Suarez, Lewandowski, Aguero, Mandzukic etc.) that make it fluid and effective at the top level, but have any teams made a success of it at our level, with the sort of quality of player we can afford?

As it stands, it looks like we're heading into the new season with Williams as our first choice in that role.

Does anyone believe, based on what we saw of him in that position during the experiments with formations at the end of last season, that he's strong enough/ intelligent enough/ has a good enough first touch (key attributes in that position in my opinion) to act as the central figurehead through which we build our attacks?

In my opinion these are the 3 attributes his game is most lacking.



I think Williams would be next to useless as a lone focal point up front, if anything his game is suited better to be one of the 'wide forwards' who play off the central striker.

Now, assuming Collins is as good as gone, that leaves....

....

...

Miles Storey and Samsung kid III?

I also, dont think players this low down have the skill, technique and intelligence to play these advances formations.

On a slight tangent, these new formations have killed central midfielders. Now a days you are either an attacking central midfielder or a holding central midfielder - back in the days of a 4 man flat midfield, you had to do both....these new age midfielders havent got anything Roy Keane and Patrick Vieira who did both, box to box, year after year!!!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Honkytonk on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 09:03:32
I also, dont think players this low down have the skill, technique and intelligence to play these advances formations.

If me and my uni mates can play 4-2-3-1 or 3-5-2 effectively, then I'm pretty sure professional footballers can. We got to practice once a week if we weren't too hungover- they are in nearly every day. It's just a matter of knowing people's roles and how they're going to play- which you'd imagine even with the comings and goings this summer, the players would have had enough time to work out.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: mystical_goat on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 09:47:06
these new age midfielders havent got anything Roy Keane and Patrick Vieira who did both, box to box, year after year!!!

Both are defensive midfielders really. Vieira averaged a goal every nine games for Arsenal, for instance. Keane almost one in ten. I know goalscoring doesn't tell it all, and assists and general patterns of play are important.

Gerrard, Yaya Toure, Fellaini, all fulfill the box-to-box role for me.

EDIT: just looked them up and many do count Keane as a box-to-box.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: A Gent Orange on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 10:08:28
Come on. 4231 is just 442 with one withdrawn forward - it's been around for years, including at Arsenal with Viera, the press just wasn't interested in formations then and called everything 442. As for three at the back - that dates back to the evolution of WM with the original 'centre half'. To call this stuff 'advanced' or 'modern' is just odd.

This stuff is just notation - don't get hung up on it over the reality.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Arriba on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 10:14:13
The players themselves are far more Important than any formation. We should concern ourselves with our squad or lack of before thinking of settting them up right.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: thepeoplesgame on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 10:17:55
Come on. 4231 is just 442 with one withdrawn forward - it's been around for years, including at Arsenal with Viera, the press just wasn't interested in formations then and called everything 442. As for three at the back - that dates back to the evolution of WM with the original 'centre half'. To call this stuff 'advanced' or 'modern' is just odd.

This stuff is just notation - don't get hung up on it over the reality.

I'm guessing our formation will be whatever formation Spurs play anyway, that the Spurs youngsters will be drilled in it, and that our being gifted them all for the season is on the basis that we continue to drill them in it.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 10:20:36
Is this the 'formation thread' ?

NO ! Its the 'New Manager Thread' !


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 10:21:15
Come on. 4231 is just 442 with one withdrawn forward - it's been around for years, including at Arsenal with Viera, the press just wasn't interested in formations then and called everything 442. As for three at the back - that dates back to the evolution of WM with the original 'centre half'. To call this stuff 'advanced' or 'modern' is just odd.

This stuff is just notation - don't get hung up on it over the reality.

Good points...most of the changes in football over the years, have little to do with formations..the classic 69 side played a false number 9...and everything to do with pitches, equipment, training/fitness, diet etc

Nevertheless, you should never ask players to do things of which they're not capable.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 10:23:55
Nevertheless, you should never ask players to do things of which they're not capable.

We've been doing that for years.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: thepeoplesgame on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 10:26:05
Nevertheless, you should never ask players to do things of which they're not capable.

Such as play football, in the case of a few we've seen pass through our doors.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 10:26:31
Thanks for recycling my joke.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
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Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Honkytonk on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 10:28:05
What thread is that Nmh?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: thepeoplesgame on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 10:29:06
Thanks for recycling my joke.

I'm old and slow.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 10:29:12
What thread is that Nmh?
Apparently its the one where we talk about formations and other shite rather than a new manager! :-)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Honkytonk on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 10:32:45
Apparently its the one where we talk about formations and other shite rather than a new manager! :-)

What's YOUR favourite formation?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 10:33:07
I'm old and slow.
I appreciate sustainability.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 10:44:22
Come on. 4231 is just 442 with one withdrawn forward - it's been around for years, including at Arsenal with Viera, the press just wasn't interested in formations then and called everything 442. As for three at the back - that dates back to the evolution of WM with the original 'centre half'. To call this stuff 'advanced' or 'modern' is just odd.

This stuff is just notation - don't get hung up on it over the reality.

Basically yes, plus one of the players playing CM can't push forward quite so much, but then if you have a player like a Steven Gerrard, etc. he's best suited to the 'withdrawn forward' role as you put it. It's hardly revolutionary.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 10:46:52
What's YOUR favourite formation?
Doggy


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 10:57:50
I want us to appoint an Indian manager


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: The Great Stan on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 10:59:08
Sitting Bull, for me


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 10:59:29
I want us to appoint an Indian manager
What, to manage the cowboys?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Arriba on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 11:00:30
What, to manage the cowboys?
how


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 11:02:59
I want us to appoint an Indian manager
Would you settle for Indian-Norwegian?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmeet_Singh_(footballer)

Might be a little early for a managerial career.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 11:04:52
how

Fred Dinenage was on the Board at Pompey, when they were sensible...wonder what he's up to?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Sir Pissalot on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 11:05:28
What's YOUR favourite formation?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAH4Cz8q2k0


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 11:08:55
Would you settle for Indian-Norwegian?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmeet_Singh_(footballer)

Might be a little early for a managerial career.

He could work.  What Bhaichung Bhutia up to these days?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 11:21:25
He could work.  What Bhaichung Bhutia up to these days?
Caretaker at United Sikkim according to Wikipedia.

Could be worth a shot.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 11:28:22
Caretaker at United Sikkim according to Wikipedia.

Could be worth a shot.

BHAICHUNG BUTHIAS BARMY ARMY!!!!

IM SOLD!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Riddick on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 11:47:26
So who are the three they've interviewed that are currently not at clubs? Most of the people we've been linked to are all at clubs at the moment.

Get Morshead on the case adver!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Honkytonk on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 12:16:23
Doggy

Oh Nmh, you flirt you!  :-[

BHAICHUNG BUTHIAS BARMY ARMY!!!!

IM SOLD!

I just read it as Bitching Butha's Barmy Army. I'm up for singing that.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: china red on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 13:20:16
Cooper's and Hartley's odds have shortened today.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: The Great Stan on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 17:35:50
Don't wish to spoil anyone's evening, but Cooper is now a very short priced favourite with both Skybet and Bet Victor

6/5 and 5/4

We're getting stitched up, guys


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: STFCFORLIFE on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 17:55:00
Don't wish to spoil anyone's evening, but Cooper is now a very short priced favourite with both Skybet and Bet Victor

6/5 and 5/4

We're getting stitched up, guys

If the board want the fans to turn against them even more then they can go ahead and appoint Cooper.

I'd rather have Paul Bloody Trollope than Cooper.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Cibocchi_Is_God on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 17:57:49
Said it once, I'll say it again.. Please god, don't let it be Cooper.


Title: Re: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: london_red on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 17:57:59
I asked this in another thread but why would appointing Cooper be this terrible unconscionable thing to happen?


Title: Re: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: STFCFORLIFE on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 17:59:18
I asked this in another thread but why would appointing Cooper be this terrible unconscionable thing to happen?

Because he's a proven shit manager, up there with the likes of Malpas and Paul Hart, look at his record, before he came here he was at Telford and won 0 games at all, failed everywhere bar doing ok at one club, didn't last long at Peterborough either.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 18:10:13
Uninspiring, no real track record in the football league (7% win ratio at Posh), will have the fans on his back before a ball is kicked. Need I go on.

If we really are Spurs bitches then I guess you could shave a monkey and put it in charge.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Cibocchi_Is_God on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 18:10:25
Being just outside the playoffs with Kettering did not warrant Cooper getting the Peterborough job, and certainly not the Swindon job, especially as he's failed 2/3 times since.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Honkytonk on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 18:11:43
Uninspiring, no real track record in the football league (7% win ratio at Posh), will have the fans on his back before a ball is kicked. Need I go on.

If we really are Spurs bitches then I guess you could shave a monkey and put it in charge.

Harbringer of Doom monkey?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 18:12:30
If we really are Spurs bitches then I guess you could shave a monkey and put it in charge.
We couldn't afford a Gareth Bale transfer fee.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ronnie21 on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 18:12:50
Because he's a proven shit manager, up there with the likes of Malpas and Paul Hart, look at his record, before he came here he was at Telford and won 0 games at all, failed everywhere bar doing ok at one club, didn't last long at Peterborough either.
You can discount his record at Telford, he took over when they were heading for relegation and left just a couple of weeks later!  I do not want him as our manager either, but give him credit for carrying on holding the fort!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 18:13:18
Actually his managerial record is not that bad.

He did not do well at Peterborough (13 games), Kettering Town (1 game) or or Telford (5 games) but his record elsewhere has been quite handy. What's more is that these records can be very deceiving as he may have been working under very tough conditions.

Now I'm not trying to say I would like to see him appointed and I don't think it will happen anyway, but an average 40% win ratio is not bad at all.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 18:15:47
Don't wish to spoil anyone's evening, but Cooper is now a very short priced favourite with both Skybet and Bet Victor

6/5 and 5/4

We're getting stitched up, guys

Possibly, but weren't Hoddle and Ferdinand similarly short at one point or other?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Benzel on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 18:16:25

Now I'm not trying to say I would like to see him appointed and I don't think it will happen anyway, but an average 40% win ratio is not bad at all.

and don't you forget it.



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 18:19:38
Actually discounting Peterborough and his last 2 (virtually caretaker) roles his win ratio is not bad.

I personally don't want him as manager but if it is then it is, I would just like a new man coming in with new ideas (whether or not he is allowed to put them into practice is not the point).


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Honkytonk on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 18:22:02
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Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bogus Dave on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 18:26:04
Why the fuck would the board wait this long to appoint cooper? Makes absolutely no sense. Add to that about 6 different managers have been made favourites according to he 'odds'.

All you negative Nancy's can fuck off for all I care. If cooper gets it he'll never be accepted regardless, people have made their minds up. Negative shitwank cunts


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 18:27:30
If we're using win games won as a benchmark we should take Cooper over Tisdale as Cooper has the better record in that regard  ;)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 18:30:33
That would make Paul Hartley the best candidate then :D


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Honkytonk on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 18:34:25
All you negative Nancy's can fuck off for all I care. If cooper gets it he'll never be accepted regardless, people have made their minds up. Negative shitwank cunts

For the record, I'm just fed up with all the toing and froing and round in circle arguments.

I don't set stock by betting odds, and at this point it wouldn't surprise me if they put a moustache and Sombrero on Jed and wheeled him out as 'Senor manoherr', an unknown but promising mexican manager.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 18:36:32
and at this point it wouldn't surprise me if they put a moustache and Sombrero on Jed and wheeled him out as 'Senor manoherr', an unknown but promising mexican manager.

RRRRRRRRRRRRUGIR


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Arriba on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 18:36:46
Unless there is a drastic improvement in the squad whoever takes over is up against it.  Might as well let the cheapest option (cooper)have it.
Think we will have at least 2 managers this season. Not including kmac


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Tails on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 18:40:42
Remember how stupid we all thought Blackburn fans were for wanting Keen out when they were 2nd in the champ, because they'd already decided they didnt like him whatever he did?

Those slating Cooper and throwing their toys out the pram - this is how stupid you look.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 18:42:44
Maybe the appointment and attached cost of a new manager is being influenced by cash-flow, or lack of, and unexpected outgoings. For example, PDC out of court settlement, Comazzi perhaps, possible less income from or maybe underwriting cost of concerts. At one time we may have afforded Mourinho but as the money situation gets tighter we downscale to the cheapest option.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bogus Dave on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 18:45:57
I'd say Chelsea fans and Benitez would be a similar example


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Red Jed on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 18:46:04
Think we will have at least 2 managers this season. Not including kmac
This is the most negative comment I have ever seen on here ever.

It sums up why Swindon fans are considered so arrogant and stupid, writing off the new manager BEFORE he has even been appointed.

I fucking despair at our fanbase.

DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Arriba on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 19:00:47
This is the most negative comment I have ever seen on here ever.

It sums up why Swindon fans are considered so arrogant and stupid, writing off the new manager BEFORE he has even been appointed.

I fucking despair at our fanbase.

DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
have you seen our squad? Whoever gets the job is on a hiding to nothing. If the squad improves my opnion will change.  :D
Not writing the manager off. Currently don't think fergie could do anything with us.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 19:04:07
This is the most negative comment I have ever seen on here ever.

It sums up why Swindon fans are considered so arrogant and stupid, writing off the new manager BEFORE he has even been appointed.

I fucking despair at our fanbase.

DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

Seems wholly reasonable to me...sustainability, doesn't necessarily mean stability. At the moment it's difficult to really see any coherent strategy beyond austerity, so it's highly likely the new manager, should we appoint one, will be a cheap option. Town fans are not noted for their patience..


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: The Great Stan on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 19:06:25
Nobody is writing off the new manager - they are expressing what they feel IF Cooper is appointed.

There seems to be some sort of smokescreen coming from the board - from big name possible managers, to names being put forward of players who have no possible chance of joining (Church, Holland).

It just feels we are being massaged to prepare for what they know the fans don't want.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 19:06:44
have you seen our squad?

Have you?

Have you seen them play yet in a competitive match?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Arriba on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 19:15:20
Have you?

Have you seen them play yet in a competitive match?
I've not invented a time machine yet so no.nobody has. I've seen it on paper and the number of players we have.,and who. That's what I meant by saying seen. We barely have enough to put a side out. We lack players in key positions and experience too.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 19:20:41
Have you?

Have you seen them play yet in a competitive match?

I think the reference is to the question of what our squad actually consists of, given the presence of mystery men like Agombar and Reis, players who may or not be long term injured, and players who appear to be frozen out. Given the lack of experience, amongst the loans and other Spurs kids, and the lack of a manager to try and establish some form of pattern of play. Still the speculating will be over soon...hopefully we'll avoid a repeat of the Gills opener is it 4 seasons ago now.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 19:20:52
What's wrong with the players we have on paper.

what's wrong with the number of players we have?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 19:22:22
What's wrong with the players we have on paper.

what's wrong with the number of players we have?

See above post..


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 19:32:12
Since when has not knowing enough about something been enough to determine it is shit?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 19:34:11
Since when has not knowing enough about something been enough to determine it is shit?

Since when you can only form an opinion once all the facts are in place?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: The Great Stan on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 19:35:29
Regarding football - experience.

If it looks like a turd and smells like a turd it is, generally, a turd.

I know boards have the opinion fans know fuck all, but we are not stupid


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 19:40:22
Since when you can only form an opinion once all the facts are in place?

Why does it have to be shit (or good) though?

Why not just accept that we don;t know yet and it might be shit, or it might be good?

Or something in between


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: The Great Stan on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 19:44:22
But, if people did not have varying opinions - whether outrageous or pure dumb - what would the point be in having a forum


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 19:45:46
Why does it have to be shit (or good) though?

Why not just accept that we don;t know yet and it might be shit, or it might be good?

Because life is pretty dull to have no opinion about anything until after the fact.

We are football fans, in pre-season we speculate about what the future holds. We may be right, we may be wrong.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: The Great Stan on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 19:47:37
As an aside, Paul Trollope has entered the betting from nowhere to 4th fav at 8/1


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: leefer on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 19:48:32
Yep,his dad had a cheeky £1 each way this morning.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Benzel on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 21:59:07
I think the reference is to the question of what our squad actually consists of, given the presence of mystery men like Agombar and Reis, players who may or not be long term injured, and players who appear to be frozen out. Given the lack of experience, amongst the loans and other Spurs kids, and the lack of a manager to try and establish some form of pattern of play. Still the speculating will be over soon...hopefully we'll avoid a repeat of the Gills opener is it 4 seasons ago now.
what a shit season that turned out to be


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: otanswell on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 23:06:38
what a shit season that turned out to be

Haha innit


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 23:18:52
what a shit season that turned out to be

Indeed, all of which tells us that although conventional wisdom is we'll be proper shit, you never quite know. Last time we went to Posh, I was so excited about seeing us in a 4-4 draw away from home for the first time ever, but instead got the first 4-5 defeat.....Kevin what were you doing?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Thursday, July 25, 2013, 23:36:05
It almost doesn't matter who is appointed as manager as the majority of fans will slate the new manager the moment he walks into the job solely because he'll be appointed by JedCo. Whoever it is will be considered either a puppet for Power/Spurs to run the show or a cheap option due to the board who appoints him.

The squad, on paper, looks very small, young and inexperienced when you cross out the names of those not out in Portugal. I think that fans are concerned because the current squad is almost entirely unknown and unlike previous years there isn't a Ritchie, Austin, Cox or Parkin to pin our hopes on.


Title: Re: Re: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Frigby Daser on Friday, July 26, 2013, 06:40:57
It almost doesn't matter who is appointed as manager as the majority of fans will slate the new manager the moment he walks into the job solely because he'll be appointed by JedCo. Whoever it is will be considered either a puppet for Power/Spurs to run the show or a cheap option due to the board who appoints him.

The squad, on paper, looks very small, young and inexperienced when you cross out the names of those not out in Portugal. I think that fans are concerned because the current squad is almost entirely unknown and unlike previous years there isn't a Ritchie, Austin, Cox or Parkin to pin our hopes on.

Not quite. They'll avoid that accusation if they get a proper manager, like Tisdale.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DiV on Friday, July 26, 2013, 06:50:15
Grass roots in England don't produce good enough players and haven't for years. I know it isn't an exact science but how many 'next big things' make it? How many don't and end up playing for Colchester?

We had Manchester Uniteds youth and reserve team captain on loan, he was some what rated there. A few months after being on loan here he was in non league.

We had a few good loan players of course but the very good to average to shit ratio is firmly lopsided to shit.

Whilst its obviously a much higher standard but England's performances in the Under XXs tournaments shows we don't produce top class players.

We'll see when the season starts, call me whatever the fuck you like, I really don't care but I think we will struggle and the majority of the young players won't be anything special.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DiV on Friday, July 26, 2013, 06:51:57
....as for the Gaffer, there are appointments out there that would meet he fans approval, no doubt.



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, July 26, 2013, 06:55:19
Grass roots in England don't produce good enough players and haven't for years. I know it isn't an exact science but how many 'next big things' make it? How many don't and end up playing for Colchester?

We had Manchester Uniteds youth and reserve team captain on loan, he was some what rated there. A few months after being on loan here he was in non league.

We had a few good loan players of course but the very good to average to shit ratio is firmly lopsided to shit.

Whilst its obviously a much higher standard but England's performances in the Under XXs tournaments shows we don't produce top class players.

We'll see when the season starts, call me whatever the fuck you like, I really don't care but I think we will struggle and the majority of the young players won't be anything special.

You are a lawnmower.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DiV on Friday, July 26, 2013, 07:07:37
What type of lawnmower?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, July 26, 2013, 07:37:31
What type of lawnmower?

A flymo sit down lawnmower, although you get less bovver with a hovver seemingly.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Riddick on Friday, July 26, 2013, 11:30:46
McCrory quotes from yesterday

"We have interviewed three"

"We haven’t approached anyone that’s at a football club currently"

"We want a bold, brave British type"

Stuart Pearce possible?



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Friday, July 26, 2013, 11:35:40
McCrory quotes from yesterday

"We have interviewed three"

"We haven’t approached anyone that’s at a football club currently"

"We want a bold, brave British type"

Stuart Pearce possible?



You'd have to assume he's one just as process of elimination from all the names mentioned


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, July 26, 2013, 11:38:48
McCrory quotes from yesterday

"We have interviewed three"

"We haven’t approached anyone that’s at a football club currently"

"We want a bold, brave British type"

Stuart Pearce possible?



Nigel Farage?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Loobug on Friday, July 26, 2013, 11:41:02
Alex Ferguson?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: The Great Stan on Friday, July 26, 2013, 11:49:49
Is Winston Churchill feeling a bit better?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Friday, July 26, 2013, 12:09:03
Pearce it is then :clap:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Friday, July 26, 2013, 13:09:43
The only thing that says it isn't Pearce is Dr Chang saying ages ago that Pearce would be our new manager before KMac left.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Matt71 on Friday, July 26, 2013, 13:56:54
Exeter city press conference at 3 pm regarding manager local rag down there suggesting he is now favourite for town job.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, July 26, 2013, 14:01:42
Ryan Harley would only sign for us if Tisdale was manager ;)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Friday, July 26, 2013, 14:02:44
Ryan Harley would only sign for us if Tisdale was manager ;)
was he manager at Swansea, Brighton and Franchise?



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: london_red on Friday, July 26, 2013, 14:06:40
Exeter city press conference at 3 pm regarding manager

Where you hear that from? Can't see anything online about it


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, July 26, 2013, 14:09:40
Where you hear that from? Can't see anything online about it
It says that on the Exeter forum.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Panda Paws on Friday, July 26, 2013, 14:11:52
It's just announce a friendly!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, July 26, 2013, 14:16:03
It's just announce a friendly!
A good one though.

I doubt they would be allowed to announce that Tisdale was leaving until after we had announced he was our new manager anyway.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Riddick on Friday, July 26, 2013, 14:21:40
Plenty of people jumped on the rumour as his odds are now very short



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Power to people on Friday, July 26, 2013, 15:05:26
Would we be able to afford his compensation ?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, July 26, 2013, 15:16:14
Would we be able to afford his compensation ?

Well Messrs McCrory and Power are feeling generous atm, shelling out from their own pockets  ;), so the chavs can get to see their heroes...


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: iffy on Friday, July 26, 2013, 16:22:43
Ryan Harley would only sign for us if Tisdale was manager ;)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/e/exeter_city/9133241.stm
"Exeter City's Ryan Harley heaps praise on Paul Tisdale"

Circumstantial evidence.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Dozno9 on Friday, July 26, 2013, 17:20:42
Sky Bet suspended betting on new manager now.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Riddick on Friday, July 26, 2013, 17:34:18
Sky Bet suspended betting on new manager now.

Sky Bet ‏@SkyBet 14m
We've suspended betting on the next Swindon manager after seeing considerable money for Paul Tisdale to take over at 1/3 this evening #STFC

Doesn't this just mean there are a lot of people who are jumping on the Harley signing?

After all their Chief Exec said

vic morgan ‏@swindonred 34m
Just spoken to Julian Tagg Chief Exec of Exeter City on @bbcdevonsport he says he's not aware of any approach from #STFC about Paul Tisdale

Unless its just a good dodge and he isn't aware, but someone else is!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: leefer on Friday, July 26, 2013, 17:37:09
Well what i want to know is if it wasn't Tisdale who signed him then who was it.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Dozno9 on Friday, July 26, 2013, 17:47:31
I don't know how it works but I guess an alarm has gone off somewhere in Sky.

I wouldn't mind too much at all if it is Tisdale.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Riddick on Friday, July 26, 2013, 17:53:00
Would be quite happy with Tisdale as well


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Friday, July 26, 2013, 17:57:29
Betting on Tisdale alone has been suspended already during this manager search.

Pinch of salt and all that.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Riddick on Friday, July 26, 2013, 19:04:54

Pinch of salt and all that.

Agreed. I see former Exeter captain Matt Taylor is available for free as well.... I wonder


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: STFCFORLIFE on Friday, July 26, 2013, 19:19:09
Agreed. I see former Exeter captain Matt Taylor is available for free as well.... I wonder

Very good strong player, would be a great addition for us.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: leefer on Friday, July 26, 2013, 19:25:01
Like him a lot...was brilliant here a few years back.



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: thedarkprince on Friday, July 26, 2013, 19:41:56
Agreed. I see former Exeter captain Matt Taylor is available for free as well.... I wonder

Good back up keeper too, used to play there when Tisdale was at Bath.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: migzy on Friday, July 26, 2013, 19:50:33
Good back up keeper too, used to play there when Tisdale was at Bath.

He originally was a keeper. He only became a centre back when playing for Exeter uni and they had an injury crisis at centre back. He started his pro career quite late.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: thedarkprince on Friday, July 26, 2013, 19:59:22
http://www.exeweb.com/forums/showthread.php?51803-Tisdale-for-Swindon/page11


grecianboyy 
Quote
22 minutes ago via mobile

Breaking News: Paul Tisdale to be appointed Swindon Town Manager, More news to follow...

Anyone know anymore?

It's been rubbished shortly after but...


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: thedarkprince on Friday, July 26, 2013, 20:00:33
He originally was a keeper. He only became a centre back when playing for Exeter uni and they had an injury crisis at centre back. He started his pro career quite late.

Substitute Exeter for Bath and you're nearly there.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, July 26, 2013, 20:03:32
I'll never forget a certain other centre Back that played for Exeter and had the name Taylor.

It's an omen.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Posh Red on Friday, July 26, 2013, 20:05:21
I'll never forget a certain other centre Back that played for Exeter and had the name Taylor.

It's an omen.

Craig?    ;)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Friday, July 26, 2013, 20:12:03
http://www.exeweb.com/forums/showthread.php?51803-Tisdale-for-Swindon/page11


grecianboyy 
It's been rubbished shortly after but...

They didn't rubbish it with much conviction though did they?

i.e...

Nope. Hopefully it's rubbish ...

and

Yeah it probably is bull ...

We shall see.



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, July 26, 2013, 20:20:05
There's a facebook page claiming it's a done deal: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Paul-Tisdale-Appreciation-Society/70569866672

I have no idea how credible it is mind.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nemo on Friday, July 26, 2013, 20:23:53
Doesn't look like it's exactly Reuters.

Would be very pleased with that mind- Harley, Taylor and Tisdale would be a very welcome introduction of experience into our situation.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Friday, July 26, 2013, 20:25:33
Doesn't look like it's exactly Reuters.

Would be very pleased with that mind- Harley, Taylor and Tisdale would be a very welcome introduction of experience into our situation.

Apart from the usual mongs who are never happy, that lot would be welcomed by the majority of Town fans I'd say.


Title: Re: Re: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Friday, July 26, 2013, 20:44:44
http://www.exeweb.com/forums/showthread.php?51803-Tisdale-for-Swindon/page11


grecianboyy 
It's been rubbished shortly after but...
Exeter have their own Chang


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Friday, July 26, 2013, 20:51:33
Grecian_Jay isn't a fan of Tisdale is he!

This all feels like a bit of Friday night boredom which has seemingly escalated.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Shaw Rosso on Friday, July 26, 2013, 21:03:05
He has a touch of the Di Canio's about him...

http://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/exeter-city/transfer-talk/news/tisdale-im-not-joining-swindon_94069.html

From 8 days ago


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: RedRag on Friday, July 26, 2013, 21:05:28
I had come round to thinking that Tis would be the best option, so this is very promising.

Credit to Jed & Co, if so, as I have been a stern critic


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, July 26, 2013, 21:10:00
I dont think it will be tisdale.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Friday, July 26, 2013, 21:11:59
I dont think it will be tisdale.

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRWCG3axJUM8XG9MNFOhT4-gh8bw_GjADae9vLmo2iYPgp5Ff3Qpg)

:)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: leftside on Friday, July 26, 2013, 21:19:43
Nigel Farage?

Excellent strong, British name, that.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ecfc on Saturday, July 27, 2013, 23:56:14
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRWCG3axJUM8XG9MNFOhT4-gh8bw_GjADae9vLmo2iYPgp5Ff3Qpg)

:)

All bets are off in the bookies here in Exeter. The word here is he's on his way to you.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: STFCFORLIFE on Sunday, July 28, 2013, 00:07:55
All bets are off in the bookies here in Exeter. The word here is he's on his way to you.

Hope so but I'll believe it when I see it.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bobby barnes jink on Sunday, July 28, 2013, 03:47:44
Useless fact. I was at Southampton FC as a teenager with Paul Tisdale (and Kevin Philips). Safe to say, our careers took slightly different paths since then ...

 :beers:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Not that Nice If I'm Honest on Sunday, July 28, 2013, 06:30:03
Useless fact. I was at Southampton FC as a teenager with Paul Tisdale (and Kevin Philips). Safe to say, our careers took slightly different paths since then ...

 :beers:

People say that you weren't fit to lace his boots, but I think you were


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, July 28, 2013, 08:24:22
All it takes is for one party, either Exeter or Swindon, to say 'this Paul Tisdale thing is absolute nonsense'. No vague quotes that can be interpreted differently.

Exeter City will be aware of this speculation so why don't they kill it off... unless there is some level of truth?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: The Great Stan on Sunday, July 28, 2013, 08:29:31
There have been plenty on here bemoaning the short time between a manager being appointed and the first game - so got to feel a bit of sympathy for Grecian 2000 if their manager does come here.

What chance do they have of replacing him any time soon?

Anyway, I thought Jed said no approaches had been made to managers currently at another club.

FWIW, if it does happen to be Tisdale, I shall be mighty happy as he appears to be a safe(ish) pair of hands


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: fatbasher on Sunday, July 28, 2013, 08:42:23
There have been plenty on here bemoaning the short time between a manager being appointed and the first game - so got to feel a bit of sympathy for Grecian 2000 if their manager does come here.

What chance do they have of replacing him any time soon?

Anyway, I thought Jed said no approaches had been made to managers currently at another club.

FWIW, if it does happen to be Tisdale, I shall be mighty happy as he appears to be a safe(ish) pair of hands

Does not mean Tisdale or his agent has not approached the town does it? Remember Jed is the ahem "master" at riddles, bluff and bullshit.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Sunday, July 28, 2013, 08:50:23
All it takes is for one party, either Exeter or Swindon, to say 'this Paul Tisdale thing is absolute nonsense'. No vague quotes that can be interpreted differently.

Exeter City will be aware of this speculation so why don't they kill it off... unless there is some level of truth?
Vic Morgan, who lives down there I believe, said he spoke with their director/chairman who dismissed it completely... obviously hasn't made the local rag either in Exeter or here.

I hope if it is Tisdale he brings Parkin with him. He's a decent coach for my CL winning Swindon side on FM13 :)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, July 28, 2013, 08:55:33
Vic Morgan, who lives down there I believe, said he spoke with their director/chairman who dismissed it completely... obviously hasn't made the local rag either in Exeter or here.

I hope if it is Tisdale he brings Parkin with him. He's a decent coach for my CL winning Swindon side on FM13 :)

Wasn't Morgan's quote that the chief exec 'was not aware' of any approach? It's not hard to say a professional clearer equivalent of "This is all bollocks, move along there's nothing to see here." :)

Appoint Kenny Shiels and be done with it!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Sunday, July 28, 2013, 08:59:34
Appoint Kenny Shiels and be done with it!
Cooperman, just like that.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Sunday, July 28, 2013, 09:09:21
Cooperman, just like that.

I'm warming to the idea of Cooper, because fez wearing at games could become a fashion. I know some would prefer to wear cravats, but no comedy value.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: leefer on Sunday, July 28, 2013, 10:45:58
I don't know that man,but i recognise his fez.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, July 28, 2013, 11:01:48
I don't know that man,but i recognise his fez.
Tisdale walks into the managers seat.....you would have thought he would have seen it.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, July 28, 2013, 13:19:38
Interesting article on Tisdale in todays Mail.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2379513/Only-Arsene-Wenger-job-longer-Paul-Tisdale.html

He sounds pretty happy there if thats anything to go by.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Sunday, July 28, 2013, 13:30:08
Interesting article on Tisdale in todays Mail.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2379513/Only-Arsene-Wenger-job-longer-Paul-Tisdale.html

He sounds pretty happy there if thats anything to go by.

If he doesn't come maybe he can send his chair for our defenders?

'It's a Swedish gravity chair,' he says. 'It's worth about £2,000 but I found it in a junk shop for £150. That was a good buy. It's designed to help bad backs like mine.'





Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bobby barnes jink on Sunday, July 28, 2013, 15:11:11
People say that you weren't fit to lace his boots, but I think you were

I clearly wasn't to be fair. Though I think they frowned upon our group in general to be honest after previously nurturing the likes of Shearer, Flowers, Wallace, Banger, Le Tissier, etc in previous years. Philips was moved to right back and told he was too small.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: chunky monkey on Sunday, July 28, 2013, 15:23:10
Philips was moved to right back and told he was too small.


Just goes to show they knew fuck all


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Whits on Sunday, July 28, 2013, 21:21:18
'It's a Swedish gravity chair,' he says.


My old man has one of those, had it for about 15-20 years and its quality!

p.s my dad isn't paul tisdale :)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Gibbons on Monday, July 29, 2013, 20:27:09

Anyone else think of this whenever they see Town fans moaning about "the cheap option" on Facebook?

(http://www.themagazine.ca/cms/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/homerfront1.jpg)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: The Great Stan on Monday, July 29, 2013, 20:30:10
Well, the point of that episode was that the car actually cost a fortune to build but was utterly crap and bankrupted Uncle Herb.

I honestly don't think we will be crap this season - just inconsistent


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: @mwooly63 on Monday, July 29, 2013, 20:31:03
Anyone else think of this whenever they see Town fans moaning about "the cheap option" on Facebook?

(http://www.themagazine.ca/cms/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/homerfront1.jpg)

IIRC correctly that wasnt cheap  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:
80 grand a motor and bankrupt ole unkie Herb


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Gibbons on Monday, July 29, 2013, 20:32:13
IIRC correctly that wasnt cheap  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:
80 grand a motor and bankrupt ole unkie Herb

Yes, my point being if you let these numpties with no grasp of fiscal prudence run the club...

Love that episode :)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: The Great Stan on Monday, July 29, 2013, 20:34:07
'Hock your brains out, son!'


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, July 30, 2013, 07:05:57
Interesting article on Tisdale in todays Mail.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2379513/Only-Arsene-Wenger-job-longer-Paul-Tisdale.html

He sounds pretty happy there if thats anything to go by.

With regards to Tisdale, as suggested in the Advertiser we appear to have spoken to him a couple of times about the post but never made anything official.

Ermn isn't that essentiaslly tapping up and not allowed under the rules, if we do appoint him I expect on past experience with the FA a swift demotion into the Conference South.


Title: Re: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Frigby Daser on Tuesday, July 30, 2013, 07:14:23
Rumours on their board (completely unsubstantiated) that Tisdale met McCrory-McCoy and wasn't impressed.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ronnie21 on Tuesday, July 30, 2013, 07:21:19
Rumours on their board (completely unsubstantiated) that Tisdale met McCrory-McCoy and wasn't impressed.
Probably a Swindon fan who hates the new board!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: mystical_goat on Tuesday, July 30, 2013, 10:06:25
Considering the positions that Tisdale has turned down in the past, I would think it highly unlikely that he'd leave for Swindon now.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, July 30, 2013, 10:26:32
Considering the positions that Tisdale has turned down in the past, I would think it highly unlikely that he'd leave for Swindon now.

Think you're right, but it's Tisdale's loss, the STFC job, is a stepping stone to some of the bigger clubs in England and beyond...so Bert Head>Crystal Palace top flight at the time, Danny Williams>Sheff Wed top flight at the time. Dave MacKay>Forest>Derby, where he won league title. Lou Macari>West Ham>Celtic. Osvaldo Ardiles>Newcastle>Spurs. Glenn Hoddle>Chelsea>England. John Gorman>#2England. Andy King>Gray's Athletic. Iffy Onuora>Ethiopea. Dennis Wise>Leeds. Danny Wilson>Sheff Utd. Paolo di Canio>Sunderland.

Aside from Jim Smith, have Oxford ever had a manager who's moved on to a better club?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Trashbat? on Tuesday, July 30, 2013, 10:27:13
Tisdale is a manager who has shown over the years he is loyal and works to a moral code, If he was to become our new manager I would not be surprised if he made sure Exeter had a new manager in place before leaving.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: mystical_goat on Tuesday, July 30, 2013, 17:55:57
Aside from Jim Smith, have Oxford ever had a manager who's moved on to a better club?

An impressive list Reginald, you certainly have been the stepping stone for a lot of managers. Not always a good thing though? The Andy King addition was a nice one too. We've had Jim Smith do it, and these...

Ron Saunders > Norwich, Man City, Villa, Birmingham & West Brom, Brian Horton > Man City, Denis Smith > West Brom, Graham Rix > AFC Porchester, Ramon Diaz > Independente, River Plate (indirectly)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: mystical_goat on Tuesday, July 30, 2013, 17:57:38
Tisdale is a manager who has shown over the years he is loyal and works to a moral code, If he was to become our new manager I would not be surprised if he made sure Exeter had a new manager in place before leaving.

and that the club he was going to were signing from the same moral code hymn sheet


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: RedRag on Tuesday, July 30, 2013, 18:08:29
An impressive list Reginald, you certainly have been the stepping stone for a lot of managers. Not always a good thing though? The Andy King addition was a nice one too. We've had Jim Smith do it, and these...

Ron Saunders > Norwich, Man City, Villa, Birmingham & West Brom, Brian Horton > Man City, Denis Smith > West Brom, Graham Rix > AFC Porchester, Ramon Diaz > Independente, River Plate (indirectly)

Not sure what Reg was thinking.  Surely EVERY manager that has ever left the Pox has moved on to a better club.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: hobnob on Tuesday, July 30, 2013, 18:14:52
Not sure what Reg was thinking.  Surely EVERY manager that has ever left the Pox has moved on to a better club.

Ha ha luv it :clap:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: RedRag on Tuesday, July 30, 2013, 18:16:32
Even the Robert Maxwell option would be attractive


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, July 30, 2013, 18:19:59
Not sure what Reg was thinking.  Surely EVERY manager that has ever left the Pox has moved on to a better club.

He he


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Dozno9 on Tuesday, July 30, 2013, 18:38:23
Rix has had a progressive career. After being involved with the under 16's he then went on to manage a league club.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Summerof69 on Tuesday, July 30, 2013, 18:59:56
Rix has had a progressive career. After being involved with the under 16's he then went on to manage a league club.

Rix surely wouldn't be allowed to work with kids now...


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, July 30, 2013, 19:03:31
Rix has had a progressive career. After being involved with the under 16's he then went on to manage a league club.

From Rix's point of view a progressive career meant he went from U'21's to U 18's to U16's in women's football.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Dozno9 on Tuesday, July 30, 2013, 19:07:56
I think he peaked early and went straight for the under 16 girls.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Ardiles on Tuesday, July 30, 2013, 19:08:42
From Rix's point of view a progressive career meant he went from U'21's to U 18's to U16's in women's football.

Very good.   :D


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Gibbons on Tuesday, July 30, 2013, 19:11:16
Rix has had a progressive career. After being involved with the under 16's he then went on to manage a league club.

Don't worry Azza, I noticed you already made the joke in your original post.  ::)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Dozno9 on Tuesday, July 30, 2013, 19:12:25
Thank you, I thought I would reiterate the joke, it WAS funny.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Gibbons on Tuesday, July 30, 2013, 19:19:10
Thank you, I thought I would reiterate the joke, it WAS funny.

 :)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Gibbons on Tuesday, July 30, 2013, 20:25:07

http://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/sport/football/peterborough-united/ex-posh-boss-only-interested-in-winning-on-saturday-1-5334565

Quote
Expect sore necks on Saturday as Mr hoofball comes to town! He has to be the most laughable manager Posh ever had the misfortune of coming across.

 :hmmm:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Tuesday, July 30, 2013, 20:31:26
http://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/sport/football/peterborough-united/ex-posh-boss-only-interested-in-winning-on-saturday-1-5334565

 :hmmm:

I can't help but think there's going to be some hostility on Saturday after reading the comments on that article....oh well, may fire us up even more...'it's not about revenge' I guarrantee he'll want to beat them, not only to prove doubters wrong, but to rub Posh's fucking noses in it! :smugfu:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: woolster on Tuesday, July 30, 2013, 20:34:18
http://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/sport/football/peterborough-united/ex-posh-boss-only-interested-in-winning-on-saturday-1-5334565

 :hmmm:
No one likes him, no one likes him, I am willing to give him a dozen games, coopermans barmey army


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Tuesday, July 30, 2013, 20:39:05
No one likes him, no one likes him, I am willing to give him a dozen games, coopermans barmey army

I'm with you, I have no reason to dislike him....what's he actually done that's been detrimental?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Honkytonk on Tuesday, July 30, 2013, 22:54:15
http://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/sport/football/peterborough-united/ex-posh-boss-only-interested-in-winning-on-saturday-1-5334565

 :hmmm:

Lucky Spurs are really in charge of our tactics if he is mr hoofball then.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Panda Paws on Wednesday, July 31, 2013, 06:29:25
Anyone who has watched one minute of us in pre-season will know that Cooper is anything but hoofball, and it's very clear what they're trying to do on the pitch.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, July 31, 2013, 07:54:27
Anyone who has watched one minute of us in pre-season will know that Cooper is anything but hoofball, and it's very clear what they're trying to do on the pitch.

The only bit of pre-season I saw was that video of the Birmingham game we put up yesterday, where what we seemed to be trying to do on the pitch was give the ball away as much as possible and not run very much.

To be fair they did look knackered.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, July 31, 2013, 08:41:43
The only bit of pre-season I saw was that video of the Birmingham game we put up yesterday, where what we seemed to be trying to do on the pitch was give the ball away as much as possible and not run very much.

To be fair they did look knackered.

Well I can say the Supermarine friendly was an average first game back affair.
- Devizes was fairly poor and disjointed, but we has a mixed squad out.
- Spurs was good performance.
-Brum was difficult given the stupid scheduling, though we had a couple of good spells. When
Collins ends up centre back you know its not representative at that point!
- Ciren was fairly good in the first half fairly average second. Lack of centre forward threat due to Williams being given a role he's not suited to worried me.

All of which tells me precisely nothing of the season to come :)#

None of it was hoofball. He hasn't got the players with the mentality to play hoofball. That doesn't mean he didn't play hoofball at Posh though.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Wednesday, July 31, 2013, 08:44:42
Banbury was brilliant.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, July 31, 2013, 08:49:24
Banbury was brilliant.

I heard you got hammered.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Wednesday, July 31, 2013, 09:04:30
I did get pretty pissed yeah.

Saw the hammer flying at speed too


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Didcot ben on Wednesday, July 31, 2013, 10:44:11
Have read on football romours that Paul tilsdale is our man soapy tit wank


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 31, 2013, 10:47:06
Have read on football romours that Paul tilsdale is our man soapy tit wank
Best close this thread then!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Didcot ben on Wednesday, July 31, 2013, 11:57:33
Well it must be true if its on football romours they never get any thing wrong


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Sir Pissalot on Wednesday, July 31, 2013, 13:43:37
Oddschecker had Tisdale as 1/4 this morning but is now showing Tisdale and Cooperman as Evens Jt Favs.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 31, 2013, 13:57:43
Can't see Tisdale wanting to leave the "richest club in the country" to come to us  ::)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23507974


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: mystical_goat on Wednesday, July 31, 2013, 15:19:23
The BBC have upped their game in their choice of pictures to accompany stories, it looks proper shanty there


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Ardiles on Wednesday, July 31, 2013, 15:38:19
The BBC have upped their game in their choice of pictures to accompany stories, it looks proper shanty there

Brings back a few memories, I'd imagine.  ;)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-5lQ8eomqDj4/Tgd555TjETI/AAAAAAAAA9Y/3gHbQ95Ih4c/s640/Manor+Ground+1.jpg)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, July 31, 2013, 15:40:52
Can't see Tisdale wanting to leave the "richest club in the country" to come to us  ::)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23507974
In fairness that's mainly the headline quoting the bloke wildly out of context. He does make it very clear he's well aware they haven't got two buttons, but is talking about them not having shitloads of debt. I'd have thought our recent experiences over the last decade or so would have made us very aware of the dangers of carrying a level of debt you can't sustain, as well as how much of a mirage being a "rich club" by virtue of the wealth of your benefactor is.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: mystical_goat on Wednesday, July 31, 2013, 17:22:24
Brings back a few memories, I'd imagine.  ;)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-5lQ8eomqDj4/Tgd555TjETI/AAAAAAAAA9Y/3gHbQ95Ih4c/s640/Manor+Ground+1.jpg)
Beautiful, loved going there.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Ardiles on Wednesday, July 31, 2013, 17:46:13
I do know what you mean.  Almost miss it myself.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Wednesday, July 31, 2013, 17:47:06
Reminds me a bit of the back of the old Shrivenham Road 'Aldershot Military Tattoo' Stand. Exeter's that is, not the Headington one.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Ardiles on Wednesday, July 31, 2013, 17:47:50
And at least we used to win there occasionally.   :D


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Wednesday, July 31, 2013, 17:53:40
Beautiful, loved going there.

A little over 25 years ago that, THAT, was a top flight stadium.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Thursday, August 1, 2013, 16:55:54
Can we rule Ian Wright out now he has 6-0-6 commitments:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23519944


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: thedarkprince on Thursday, August 1, 2013, 17:11:45
No but we can rule him out as he's a complete cunt.


Title: Re: Re: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Only Me on Thursday, August 1, 2013, 18:33:28
No but we can rule him out as he's a complete cunt.
Best reason so far


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Thursday, August 1, 2013, 18:38:56
No but we can rule him out as he's a complete cunt.

Fair.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: THE FLASH on Friday, August 2, 2013, 08:15:34
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23530145


FFS!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Friday, August 2, 2013, 08:18:01
to be honest Flash if we are basing our squad around spurs youth that HAVE to play in a Spurs formation it doesn't really matter who is called manager.

That's another reason why its important to understand if the above is true or bobbins.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Riddick on Friday, August 2, 2013, 08:41:37
I don't like the idea that you delay the appointment so long that the incumbent just gets given it. For the good of Cooper you can't give him the job. He'll have the shortest honeymoon period imaginable and it does nothing for the fans to have any confidence in this season. Keep him as coach is you value him, but appoint someone else as manager.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: LucienSanchez on Friday, August 2, 2013, 08:54:46
I'd have been happier if he was just given it properly before Portugal, rather than getting the job by default through our board falling to secure a proper manager.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Abrahammer on Friday, August 2, 2013, 08:58:43
It does seem to be a case of delaying the inevitable, might as well just give him the job so everyone knows where we stand and the meltdown can commence.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Friday, August 2, 2013, 10:54:40
to be honest Flash if we are basing our squad around spurs youth that HAVE to play in a Spurs formation it doesn't really matter who is called manager.

That's another reason why its important to understand if the above is true or bobbins.
We'll find out soon enough when the season starts.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Friday, August 2, 2013, 10:59:16
It does seem to be a case of delaying the inevitable, might as well just give him the job so everyone knows where we stand and the meltdown can commence.
Prob stating the obvious, but waiting gives the board the option NOT to appoint him too. Tell the players he is caretaker until end of August if that makes them feel more secure.

To be honest, I've been temporarily in charge of a team at work since January while a colleague gets cancer treatment. They don't give a fuck whether I'm there or she's there! All they care about is what they have to do and that they get fairly rewarded for it.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: DiV on Friday, August 2, 2013, 15:07:56
I expected Cooper to be our next manager when KMac left.

Already on the wage bill and probably isn't going to get another football league managers job any other way.

If this is the route they take - then they could have done it 3 weeks ago. Like most I'd be interested to know how much say in transfers, formation and team selection Cooper has...


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Monday, August 5, 2013, 09:52:26
Karl Robinson straight in at 4/1 on skybet


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Trashbat? on Monday, August 5, 2013, 09:58:07
Karl Robinson straight in at 4/1 on skybet

Done a great job at Franchise working on a budget similar to ours, they also play a system very similar to the way Jed & Power want us to play.

He has turned down bigger jobs than us in the past though, but mainly because of not wanting to move away from the MK area.

I would like him here, mainly though just to piss off my Father in law.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Monday, August 5, 2013, 09:59:15
He would be quite the coup, but why an earth would he be interested in us?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: König on Monday, August 5, 2013, 10:01:47
Karl Robinson straight in at 4/1 on skybet

He was in the executive seats at the home play-off game in May and seemed pretty chummy with Jed, maybe they already know each other?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Trashbat? on Monday, August 5, 2013, 10:06:47
To be fair I think he has taken Franchise as far as he can, they seem in similar position as us in terms of cutting back and bringing in youngsters and loans.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, August 5, 2013, 10:07:23
Surely that would require compensation and I imagine a non-starter.

Unless he resigns from MK of course.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: tans on Monday, August 5, 2013, 10:07:55
Didnt he used to play for us aswell?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, August 5, 2013, 10:12:12
Didnt he used to play for us aswell?

According to Wiki he turned out for some top class outfits - Caernarfon Town, Marine, Bamber Bridge, Oswestry Town, Rhyl, Kidsgrove Athletic, Prescot Cables, St Helens Town, Alsager Town, Warrington Town, Oxford United*

So no, he didn't tans.





*That one is made up.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, August 5, 2013, 10:12:16
Didnt he used to play for us aswell?
As a youth under Macmahon IIRC.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, August 5, 2013, 10:13:22
He has a 45% win record at Franchise.



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Monday, August 5, 2013, 10:31:29
I'd be quite happy with that. Mainly because he'd be a good appointment, ticks a lot of the right boxes, but also to annoy the clubstealing scumbags at Franchise. Although I'd be pissed off if we had to pay them any money at all. Still, money well spent if it helps implode their season before it even properly gets started.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, August 5, 2013, 10:40:04
Not sure I'd want anyone with links to Franchise.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: kaufman on Monday, August 5, 2013, 10:44:09
Franchise as a club has been going way too long now for people to be thinking that.

We've had loads of links with them over years, yep it's years now.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Panda Paws on Monday, August 5, 2013, 10:47:03
Seen that Sam has said it could be a little left field, I'm going to go with Alex Inglethorpe - ex Tottenham youth coach now Liverpool u21s manager.

Absolutely no basis to this rumour.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Ardiles on Monday, August 5, 2013, 10:48:26
Franchise as a club has been going way too long now for people to be thinking that.

Incorrect.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: derbystfc on Monday, August 5, 2013, 10:49:26
This may not be too out the way of the realms of possibility, Jed has lots of business interests around the Milton Keynes, Luton, Bedford portion of the M1, so it could be quite possible that Jed and Robinson moves in similar circles.

However, would it happen, not too sure, would I want it to happen, Maybe. Someone mentioned on the mongs forum that a new manager will be appointed on wednesday and he will be in the stands tommorow eve, how true? fuck knows!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Ardiles on Monday, August 5, 2013, 10:49:38
That's not to say I'd be worried about taking their manager though.  Danny Wilson was ex-Franchise as well, after all.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, August 5, 2013, 10:51:41

However, would it happen, not too sure, would I want it to happen, Maybe. Someone mentioned on the mongs forum that a new manager will be appointed on wednesday and he will be in the stands tommorow eve, how true? fuck knows!


Linkage please


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, August 5, 2013, 10:52:15
Scouse...no thanks.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Monday, August 5, 2013, 10:55:46
Scouse...no thanks.
Is that your motor on fire in the car park?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Ardiles on Monday, August 5, 2013, 10:56:57
Scouse...no thanks.

The last Scouser we had as manager did get us out of this division...as Champions, no less.  What's not to like?!   ;)


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: kaufman on Monday, August 5, 2013, 11:08:30
Incorrect.

My point is there is such a turn over in players and managers now, there's going to be connections along the way.
Sure me saying "way too long" was a bit extreme but think the situation will only diminish over generations


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, August 5, 2013, 11:11:19
My point is there is such a turn over in players and managers now, there's going to be connections along the way.
Sure me saying "way too long" was a bit extreme but think the situation will only diminish over generations

Unless they start again, from the very start, they will always be illegitimate. Always.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Monday, August 5, 2013, 11:12:31
Well, that is a bloody odd link. A good one I think.

Can't see it though, not even a little bit. Not even if I squint.

Unless they start again, from the very start, they will always be illegitimate. Always.

Nicely put.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, August 5, 2013, 11:13:13
Well, that is a bloody odd link. A good one I think.

Can't see it though, not even a little bit. Not even if I squint.

Nicely put.
I fully agree.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, August 5, 2013, 11:15:39
Unless they start again, from the very start, they will always be illegitimate. Always.
And the more tolerant we become of Franchise, the greater the likelihood that it'll happen again.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, August 5, 2013, 11:19:51
Not sure I'd want anyone with links to Franchise.

In the WSC season preview thing (where the STFC fan interviewed suggests that we are going to be relegated but on the scores given by other supporters we are top ten!) the one thing that caught my eye is just how much Robinson is hated by fans of other clubs, I expected us to score high on the dislike stakes due to PdC but Robinson and Evans seem to get most hate!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: kaufman on Monday, August 5, 2013, 11:22:13
Unless they start again, from the very start, they will always be illegitimate. Always.

The club will yes in many eyes also, but I'm sure the players and managers wont.
Prove me wrong kids...prove me wrong

Like people have said, an odd appointment, but one that could work well


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Power to people on Monday, August 5, 2013, 11:47:41
I've not seen it anywhere and I was not about much last week but I thought I heard a comment that there will be some statement on Thursday about Power's future so maybe linked to a new manager / head coach ?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Monday, August 5, 2013, 12:01:21
I've not seen it anywhere and I was not about much last week but I thought I heard a comment that there will be some statement on Thursday about Power's future so maybe linked to a new manager / head coach ?

I thought it was more clarifying Powers role than about his future, though they could be seen as one in the same. Anyway Jed mentioned the Thursday statement on the BBC Wilts phone in.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, August 5, 2013, 12:29:15
How did you cope with Danny Wilson then?
I spent his entire reign in a foetal position.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Monday, August 5, 2013, 12:32:35
I spent his entire reign in a foetal position.

I know what you mean, I hate them as an organisation (they aren't, and never shall, be referred to, as a 'Club') but maybe Mr Robinson wants to take a job where he can look at himself in the mirror.

Not overly enamoured by him to be honest, seems to suffer from 'Appletonitius' being hugely rated and linked with every job despite never actually achieving much. Wouldn't be terribly disappointed if it's him either, still think it will be Cooper though


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, August 5, 2013, 12:42:38

Not overly enamoured by him to be honest, seems to suffer from 'Appletonitius' being hugely rated and linked with every job despite never actually achieving much. Wouldn't be terribly disappointed if it's him either, still think it will be Cooper though

2 playoff places in 3 seasons with a more or less average budget is nowt to be sniffed at.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Cibocchi_Is_God on Monday, August 5, 2013, 12:49:08
Ambitious young manager who likes the keep the ball on the ground, would be more than happy with Robinson.. MK were pretty unlucky to miss out on the playoffs last season as well.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Monday, August 5, 2013, 12:49:31
2 playoff places in 3 seasons with a more or less average budget is nowt to be sniffed at.

I thought he'd only had one PO so that is more encouraging, still not sure we can afford the sort of compo that dreadful man would want.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, August 5, 2013, 12:50:56
I know what you mean, I hate them as an organisation (they aren't, and never shall, be referred to, as a 'Club') but maybe Mr Robinson wants to take a job where he can look at himself in the mirror.

Not overly enamoured by him to be honest, seems to suffer from 'Appletonitius' being hugely rated and linked with every job despite never actually achieving much. Wouldn't be terribly disappointed if it's him either, still think it will be Cooper though
I'm hypocritical about it anyway as I've been to both of their grounds on more than one occasion and I was a big fan of Wilson during his tenure.

I've no doubt he's a good coach and manager but there's something that makes me feel uneasy about players or managers coming directly from Franchise... I can stomach it a little better if they're one or two degrees removed from them.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Red Frog on Monday, August 5, 2013, 13:03:43
The last Scouser we had as manager did get us out of this division...as Champions, no less.  What's not to like?!   ;)

Iffy Onuora?  :no:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, August 5, 2013, 13:05:27
Iffy Onuora?  :no:
Iffy was a Glaswegian.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Monday, August 5, 2013, 13:06:54

I've no doubt he's a good coach and manager but there's something that makes me feel uneasy about players or managers coming directly from Franchise... I can stomach it a little better if they're one or two degrees removed from them.

Yes but think of it this way, their customers will be livid if we poach him.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Cibocchi_Is_God on Monday, August 5, 2013, 13:07:43
Couldn't care less if he comes directly from franchise or not.. What does it matter? They aren't Oxford.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Amir on Monday, August 5, 2013, 13:09:55
I'm not overly bothered and I think most fans would be fairly unconcerned with players/managers coming to their club from there, however I always consider people who have worked for them to be slightly tainted and lacking in judgement/moral fibre.



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Red Frog on Monday, August 5, 2013, 13:13:20
Iffy was a Glaswegian.

Have you heard him speak? He may have been born in Glasgow but grew up on the same street in Crosby on Merseyside as a mate of mine. Started his career at Everton. Tell him he's not Scouse.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, August 5, 2013, 13:15:21
Have you heard him speak? He may have been born in Glasgow but grew up on the same street in Crosby on Merseyside as a mate of mine. Started his career at Everton. Tell him he's not Scouse.
A dog born in a barn is not a horse it is still a dog.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Red Frog on Monday, August 5, 2013, 13:18:57
A dog born in a barn is not a horse it is still a dog.

Ha ha. I hope you were born in Swindon and aren't just a fake plastic import.  :wink:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, August 5, 2013, 13:20:29
Ha ha. I hope you were born in Swindon and aren't just a fake plastic import.  :wink:
Actually I was.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, August 5, 2013, 13:22:23
I was born in Oxford.

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Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Red Frog on Monday, August 5, 2013, 13:24:33
Actually I was.

Oh.  :-[ Anyway, doesn't mean I subscribe to your theory, otherwise I'd have to support Gibraltar Town Ape-shooters.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Monday, August 5, 2013, 13:25:28
I'm not overly bothered and I think most fans would be fairly unconcerned with players/managers coming to their club from there, however I always consider people who have worked for them to be slightly tainted and lacking in judgement/moral fibre.




I disagree, the players and managers are jobbing professionals, it's not their fault. The people I hold beneath contempt are the FA, Winkleman and those who pay to indulge his vile 'project'.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Red Frog on Monday, August 5, 2013, 13:31:36

I disagree, the players and managers are jobbing professionals, it's not their fault. The people I hold beneath contempt are the FA, Winkleman and those who pay to indulge his vile 'project'.

Agree. And while we're at it, can people stop calling Franchise customers fans? I don't know a proper footy fan that could conceive of wearing their colours and can only assume their sumptuous seats are filled by lazy opportunists with no sense of football culture. Can they not feel the shame as proper fans look down on them?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ronnie21 on Monday, August 5, 2013, 13:36:46
Ha ha. I hope you were born in Swindon and aren't just a fake plastic import.  :wink:
I like that one, if only we could get a few more of those "fake plastic imports" to the CG on a regular basis we would be much better off! :nod:


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, August 5, 2013, 13:52:48
Oh.  :-[ Anyway, doesn't mean I subscribe to your theory, otherwise I'd have to support Gibraltar Town Ape-shooters.
I do remember when Iffy was at his best for us in the Championship the 98/99 season when he scored 20 goals, the Scotland manager was considering calling him up for Scotland which he was extremely excited by, which in my books makes him pretty Scottish.

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Nevertheless, rumours around this period suggested that Scotland manager Craig Brown was considering Onuora for a call-up to the national squad - Brown was quoted as saying "we are watching him because he's a big, strong lad, and he is definitely in my thoughts"

I bet if he was called up he would have welcomed being called Scottish and not a scouser (no offence to any Scousers like PaulD).


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: derbystfc on Monday, August 5, 2013, 13:53:00
Agree. And while we're at it, can people stop calling Franchise customers fans? I don't know a proper footy fan that could conceive of wearing their colours and can only assume their sumptuous seats are filled by lazy opportunists with no sense of football culture. Can they not feel the shame as proper fans look down on them?

The thing is, I actually live close to MK, about 6 miles out, their are people here who were fans of other clubs, but have switched to becomig 'fans' of this thing they called a club, and yes they do class themselves as proper fans.

It's tragic, one such person lives in the village i live in, and frequents my local, and they justify the whole thing  by saying 'well wimbledon was going to go bust anyway'. its shameful


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: derbystfc on Monday, August 5, 2013, 13:54:38
I do remember when Iffy was at his best for us in the Championship the 98/99 season when he scored 20 goals, the Scotland manager was considering calling him up for Scotland which he was extremely excited by, which in my books makes him pretty Scottish.

I bet if he was called up he would have welcomed being called Scottish and not a scouser (no offence to any Scousers like PaulD).
Sounds a bit like Jay Mac, He has a fine scottish accent!! soapy tit wank


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Amir on Monday, August 5, 2013, 13:59:18
Agree. And while we're at it, can people stop calling Franchise customers fans? I don't know a proper footy fan that could conceive of wearing their colours and can only assume their sumptuous seats are filled by lazy opportunists with no sense of football culture. Can they not feel the shame as proper fans look down on them?

I agree also that that is where the majority of contempt should be aimed, I was merely stating how I felt about players and managers who accept their employ.  Your 'fans' comment is a strange one, seeing as absolutely no one appears to have used that term to describe them.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, August 5, 2013, 14:01:29
Sounds a bit like Jay Mac, He has a fine scottish accent!! soapy tit wank

True but at least Jay Mac was born in Liverpool and not in Scotland.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, August 5, 2013, 14:01:55
Can they not feel the shame as proper fans look down on them?

If anything it's the opposite as they seem to feel some perverse pride instead


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Red Frog on Monday, August 5, 2013, 14:05:51
I agree also, I was merely stating how I felt about players and managers who accept their employ.  Your 'fans' comment is a strange one, seeing as absolutely no one appears to have used that term to describe them.

Thought I saw it used somewhere in the thread but no matter. You can just take it as a general rant on the subject. For me they really are the antithesis of what being a football supporter is about.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: RedRag on Monday, August 5, 2013, 14:14:13
If anything it's the opposite as they seem to feel some perverse pride instead
a very plastic "no one likes us, we don't care" attitude


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Spud on Monday, August 5, 2013, 14:16:10
Couldn't care less if he comes directly from franchise or not.. What does it matter? They aren't Oxford.

Agreed. Don't care where he comes from. He's a very good manager.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: china red on Monday, August 5, 2013, 14:21:02
A bit odd that this has come out of no where really.  Would be a good appointment, cannot see it happening.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Sir Pissalot on Monday, August 5, 2013, 14:21:42
If anything it's the opposite as they seem to feel some perverse pride instead

Probably a bit of 'siege mentality', rather like that lot from around Bermondsey.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, August 5, 2013, 14:36:59
A bit odd that this has come out of no where really.  Would be a good appointment, cannot see it happening.
Do you mean that you can't see it happening because it would a good appointment?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: china red on Monday, August 5, 2013, 14:48:38
Do you mean that you can't see it happening because it would a good appointment?

Not at all.  Sideways step for him, turned down bigger clubs than us etc etc. 



Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Monday, August 5, 2013, 14:53:36
Not at all.  Sideways step for him, turned down bigger clubs than us etc etc. 

Coupled with him being in contract at franchise AFAIK. Can't see us affording to poach him.?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Trashbat? on Monday, August 5, 2013, 14:56:21
Perhaps he and Winkleman have fallen out? in the past Winkleman has blocked most of the approaches for him, I would find it strange if we were allowed to talk to him when others haven't.


Title: Re: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Frigby Daser on Monday, August 5, 2013, 15:18:58
I'd be delighted with Robinson. I'd be very surprised, but delighted if we got somebody with a record as good as his.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Power to people on Monday, August 5, 2013, 15:53:43
Isnt it easy to manipulate the betting market I'm sure if someone put £10 on e.g. Alan Curbishley he would suddenely appear in the betting ,or does it make more money for the odd's to shorten, how much is being put on our new manager, or is it bookies making things up to get a bit of interest


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, August 5, 2013, 15:55:42
Isnt it easy to manipulate the betting market I'm sure if someone put £10 on e.g. Alan Curbishley he would suddenely appear in the betting ,or does it make more money for the odd's to shorten, how much is being put on our new manager, or is it bookies making things up to get a bit of interest

Didn't some people on here (probably Mex) manage to get Sheena Easton briefly into the betting before somehow?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Kinky Tom on Monday, August 5, 2013, 16:02:01
The thing is, I actually live close to MK, about 6 miles out, their are people here who were fans of other clubs, but have switched to becomig 'fans' of this thing they called a club, and yes they do class themselves as proper fans.

It's tragic, one such person lives in the village i live in, and frequents my local, and they justify the whole thing  by saying 'well wimbledon was going to go bust anyway'. its shameful

where do you live?  i'm the same distance from MK.  as for robinson, he comes in to All Bar One where i work sometimes.  i've had a good chat with him and he's actually a good egg, into red wine and good food which is good enough for me.

i'd be happy with him in charge, still hate the franchise but.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: derbystfc on Tuesday, August 6, 2013, 10:13:17
where do you live?  i'm the same distance from MK.  as for robinson, he comes in to All Bar One where i work sometimes.  i've had a good chat with him and he's actually a good egg, into red wine and good food which is good enough for me.

i'd be happy with him in charge, still hate the franchise but.

Me I live in a very small village called Wicken, near Stony Strattford. I used to be on Mkfm for a bit before I got kicked off for publically slagging Peter Winkleman off over his idea of turning the MK bowl into training pitches for franchise. I didnt know winkleman backed Mkfm financially!

Fuck em!! I class this as one of my best moments :D


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: china red on Tuesday, August 6, 2013, 10:54:25
I don't think it takes a lot to change the odds on Skybet, Alex Inglethorpe is now 2nd favourite.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: donkey on Tuesday, August 6, 2013, 10:55:45
I don't think it takes a lot to change the odds on Skybet, Alex Inglethorpe is now 2nd favourite.

A mate of mine used to play football with him, before he became a pro.  Nice bloke, he said.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: phelpsieboy on Tuesday, August 6, 2013, 11:09:12
I don't think it takes a lot to change the odds on Skybet, Alex Inglethorpe is now 2nd favourite.
Panda Paws mentioned this yesterday as a joke and now he is second favourite.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, August 6, 2013, 11:23:47
Panda Paws mentioned this yesterday as a joke and now he is second favourite.

I had better mention Sheena Easton again, I think I saw Reg sharing a gin and lemon with her in the Glue Pot last night after she met with the board.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ron dodgers on Tuesday, August 6, 2013, 11:31:36
nah - she drinks rum and black


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, August 6, 2013, 11:54:58
So if we mentioned the board are in talks with Steve McMahon about a return with Fraser stepping up to be his No 2.....


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, August 6, 2013, 11:55:45
He is working on foreign satellite TV now I think old Stevey boy.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Panda Paws on Tuesday, August 6, 2013, 12:03:56
Alex Inglethorpe was an educated guess at best


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Tuesday, August 6, 2013, 12:31:11
Why the love over Robinson? Is it just me that thinks he's over-rated? He's had a good 2-3 years to get MK up with a decent team and failed.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Barry Scott on Tuesday, August 6, 2013, 13:00:11
Why the love over Robinson? Is it just me that thinks he's over-rated? He's had a good 2-3 years to get MK up with a decent team and failed.

I'm with you completely.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Tuesday, August 6, 2013, 13:39:19
I'm with you completely.

I raised this yesterday and was shot down. That said I'd take him over Cooper.


Title: Re: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, August 6, 2013, 13:46:04
I'd have thought the love in is that he's the best option that we have heard so far, assuming Tisdale and Glenda are out the running.

If there are better options on the list lets have them!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Ardiles on Tuesday, August 6, 2013, 14:08:54
In his defence, his performance with Franchise hasn't been bad either.  Franchise have not had a huge budget.  They have just focused on quality (relatively speaking) at the expense of squad size.  And that has left them exposed to a greater degree when injuries have taken their toll.

I'm not blown away by Robinson but, as Batch says, he's certainly one of the more impressive candidates from the pool of names that might feasibly consider a move to Swindon.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, August 6, 2013, 15:04:18
nah - she drinks rum and black

Sheena's favoured rum is Appleton Estate...

(http://mysteryink.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c7d9d53ef016301e4630b970d-500wi)

Michael hasn't had a job for a couple of months...sure he could fit 6 or 7 weeks in at the CG before it going pear shaped.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Kinky Tom on Tuesday, August 6, 2013, 15:29:41
Me I live in a very small village called Wicken, near Stony Strattford. I used to be on Mkfm for a bit before I got kicked off for publically slagging Peter Winkleman off over his idea of turning the MK bowl into training pitches for franchise. I didnt know winkleman backed Mkfm financially!

Fuck em!! I class this as one of my best moments :D

Yep, I know wicken, I'm in potterspury. My sister used to go to the school in wicken, part of akeley wood.  There's another town fan in deanshanger too.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Tuesday, August 6, 2013, 16:18:26
Why the love over Robinson? Is it just me that thinks he's over-rated? He's had a good 2-3 years to get MK up with a decent team and failed.

Agreed


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Power to people on Wednesday, August 7, 2013, 12:39:32
It is going to be cooper isn't it ? all the signs point to it, deeming a striker more important to a manager, bring in first team coach and fitness coach now 2 games in a no sign of anyone

If it is going to be cooper just get on with giving him the job until the end of the season on £1 a week


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Wednesday, August 7, 2013, 12:41:18
Can we change this to The New Coach thread please.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: [email protected] on Wednesday, August 7, 2013, 12:44:57
It is going to be cooper isn't it ? all the signs point to it, deeming a striker more important to a manager, bring in first team coach and fitness coach now 2 games in a no sign of anyone

If it is going to be cooper just get on with giving him the job until the end of the season on £1 a week

Along with the need to get results going ASAP in order to build confidence and momentum, there is also the transfer window to consider, which may be part of the rationale to get forwards in as a priority.

That said, I agree that it looks like it will be Cooper.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Wednesday, August 7, 2013, 12:47:12
Its looked like being him for weeks now. I dont get why they dont just announce it?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, August 7, 2013, 13:02:56
Its looked like being him for weeks now. I dont get why they dont just announce it?

Has MacDonald actually officially gone/resigned, I do wonder whether there is some legal reason we cannot appoint at the moment.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Wednesday, August 7, 2013, 13:08:05
Can we change this to The New Coach thread please.

Or the Lee Power's new bitch thread!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Ardiles on Wednesday, August 7, 2013, 13:08:34
I was half expecting him to pop up quickly somewhere else in a Head Coach position after he left us, but that hasn't happened.  So maybe.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, August 7, 2013, 13:14:13
Has MacDonald actually officially gone/resigned, I do wonder whether there is some legal reason we cannot appoint at the moment.

According to Ronnie, who's now # 1 ITKer..there's a whole raft of legals in the pipeline...he just can't tell us, NDA etc, even though McCrory told him when killing time hanging around the club shop on season ticket fiasco Friday.

So quite likely...


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ronnie21 on Wednesday, August 7, 2013, 13:35:32
According to Ronnie, who's now # 1 ITKer..there's a whole raft of legals in the pipeline...he just can't tell us, NDA etc, even though McCrory told him when killing time hanging around the club shop on season ticket fiasco Friday.

So quite likely...
Ha ha Reg, question is do you believe what Jed has told me?  I am not sure that I do as he told me something which when he was questioned about two hours later on the phone-in he flatly denied it!!  As for putting a roof on Stratton Bank I asked my neighbour this morning to find out what was happening as he is on the council, said he would make enquiries and let me know.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: derbystfc on Wednesday, August 7, 2013, 13:38:24
Yep, I know wicken, I'm in potterspury. My sister used to go to the school in wicken, part of akeley wood.  There's another town fan in deanshanger too.

Pottersbury not far from me at all, i get my car tax from the post office there, When my brother and his son comes to stay, means there are 5 town fans within a 3 mile radius, which is prob 5 more then the franchise!

Next home game I go to, I will let you know, you can take the last remaining seat in the car!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Wednesday, August 7, 2013, 15:17:36
Ha ha Reg, question is do you believe what Jed has told me?  I am not sure that I do as he told me something which when he was questioned about two hours later on the phone-in he flatly denied it!! 

What was this?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Wednesday, August 7, 2013, 15:20:40
The moon is made of cheese?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, August 7, 2013, 15:22:13
The moon is made of cheese?

What kind of cheese?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ronnie21 on Wednesday, August 7, 2013, 15:34:08
What was this?
Manager name!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: sonicyouth on Wednesday, August 7, 2013, 15:40:18
Hoddle? Tisdale?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, August 7, 2013, 15:43:16
Hoddle? Tisdale?

Hosdale? Tiddle?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, August 7, 2013, 15:45:38
I listened to the phone in and noticed at the time there was emphasis that he (Jed) has not spoken to Tisdale. The next question should gave been: 'Has anybody at the club spoken to him?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Wednesday, August 7, 2013, 15:49:33
Cooper still available to 3/1 on skybet ....

He is a win on Saturday from getting the gig!  Pile in!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ronnie21 on Wednesday, August 7, 2013, 15:54:24
I listened to the phone in and noticed at the time there was emphasis that he (Jed) has not spoken to Tisdale. The next question should gave been: 'Has anybody at the club spoken to him?
He actually said he had not approached Exeter about his services, and would have to do that before talking to Tisdale.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: phelpsieboy on Wednesday, August 7, 2013, 15:59:02
Manager name!
Maybe do some riddles.

Is it someone closely linked before?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Saxondale on Wednesday, August 7, 2013, 16:32:34
Go on, riddles man.  My first is in tisadle but not in dicanio my second is in tisdale but not in hoddle etc etc.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, August 7, 2013, 16:33:55
Go on, riddles man.  My first is in tisadle but not in dicanio my second is in tisdale but not in hoddle etc etc.
I see where you are going with this.....


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: dalumpimunki on Wednesday, August 7, 2013, 16:39:26
There's a comment on the Adver site that floats Liverpool's Youth Development top bod Alex Inglethorpe as lined up for the manager's job.

He was a youth coach at Spurs for 5-6 years up until last year, and has some experience of management at Exeter for a couple of years just before Tisdale (in the dark days of the conference and near extinction).

Seems like he might fit the Board's person spec.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Red Frog on Wednesday, August 7, 2013, 16:45:07
There's a comment on the Adver site that floats Liverpool's Youth Development top bod Alex Inglethorpe as lined up for the manager's job.

He was a youth coach at Spurs for 5-6 years up until last year, and has some experience of management at Exeter for a couple of years just before Tisdale (in the dark days of the conference and near extinction).

Seems like he might fit the Board's person spec.

It also said Shaun Taylor to come in as his assistant, and Cooper to move to the youth. Hmm.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, August 7, 2013, 16:59:07
There's a comment on the Adver site that floats Liverpool's Youth Development top bod Alex Inglethorpe as lined up for the manager's job.

He was a youth coach at Spurs for 5-6 years up until last year, and has some experience of management at Exeter for a couple of years just before Tisdale (in the dark days of the conference and near extinction).

Seems like he might fit the Board's person spec.

Must be true then...the problem with these fellas doing work at Prem clubs, is that they're in receipt of a salary way in excess of what we're likely to pay even if working with the kids.  A bit like when Fitton wanted Dicky Dosh at Newcastle. There may be circumstances whereby said individual is prepared to take a pay cut, or the club prepared to deal rather than expecting compensation.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: dalumpimunki on Wednesday, August 7, 2013, 17:06:03
Must be true then...the problem with these fellas doing work at Prem clubs, is that they're in receipt of a salary way in excess of what we're likely to pay even if working with the kids.  A bit like when Fitton wanted Dicky Dosh at Newcastle. There may be circumstances whereby said individual is prepared to take a pay cut, or the club prepared to deal rather than expecting compensation.

That's the main problem with it. Depends what the man wants though. I'm sure KMc was on a whole lot more at Villa than he earned here, but he left there with no job to go to because he wanted to be a manager.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, August 7, 2013, 18:21:27
That's the main problem with it. Depends what the man wants though. I'm sure KMc was on a whole lot more at Villa than he earned here, but he left there with no job to go to because he wanted to be a manager.

Wasn't KMac fired out from Villa? I recall he said he wanted work because he was fed up with playing golf.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: thedarkprince on Wednesday, August 7, 2013, 19:06:47
Yep, had been out of work since Lambert turned up.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: china red on Thursday, August 8, 2013, 00:12:22
I think maybe the board wanted everyone to see how well we were playing under Cooper so that then it would be easier to give him the job.  I'm happy for him to take it, much worse options out there and tbh I have no problem with him being head coach, thats just the way football is going in.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: bobby barnes jink on Thursday, August 8, 2013, 04:38:20
I think maybe the board wanted everyone to see how well we were playing under Cooper so that then it would be easier to give him the job.  I'm happy for him to take it, much worse options out there and tbh I have no problem with him being head coach, thats just the way football is going in.

They're actually being fairly sensible. He's doing the job anyway, why rush to change his title and commit unnecessarily? Gives the players (who clearly rate and like him) incentive to get results. If he gets those results then we'll all back him and suddenly he's the people's choice. No need for a punt. Meanwhile put some feelers out and see who's about. If we get a striker in, Cooper may well benefit. God knows we need some consolidation and continuity going forward.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Spud on Thursday, August 8, 2013, 05:49:52
I was against the idea of handing Cooper the managerial job on a full time basis, but if the team continues to play like they did on Tuesday night, then I don't see why he shouldn't be given a chance?!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: pauld on Thursday, August 8, 2013, 14:07:08
They're actually being fairly sensible. He's doing the job anyway, why rush to change his title and commit unnecessarily? Gives the players (who clearly rate and like him) incentive to get results. If he gets those results then we'll all back him and suddenly he's the people's choice. No need for a punt. Meanwhile put some feelers out and see who's about. If we get a striker in, Cooper may well benefit. God knows we need some consolidation and continuity going forward.
Agree with all that


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: THE FLASH on Thursday, August 8, 2013, 15:30:37
Cooper to be named if we beat Stevenage....


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Batch on Thursday, August 8, 2013, 15:32:23
I want the best man for the job, if that really is Cooper then fair enough, but nobody should be installed by default just because we need someone.

Without knowing the list of applicants there isn't much to comment on.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Barry Scott on Thursday, August 8, 2013, 16:15:21
I'm starting to want Cooper, if only because he's the underdog. I think we all believed him to be a hoof merchant, before we'd kicked a ball, and by all accounts we're playing some nice stuff.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Thursday, August 8, 2013, 16:18:30
Give Cooper the rest of the month and if there are no credible options that come up in that time then he may as well be given it for the season if we look decent in the next few matches.

He shouldn't get it on the back of a 1-0 win against Torquay as a few were suggesting.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, August 8, 2013, 16:41:30
Give Cooper the rest of the month and if there are no credible options that come up in that time then he may as well be given it for the season if we look decent in the next few matches.

He shouldn't get it on the back of a 1-0 win against Torquay as a few were suggesting.

If we get beat by Stevenage, then there will be calls for Cooper's head before he even gets the job.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Thursday, August 8, 2013, 16:47:02
I think I would give Cooper a go and use money that we were going to invest in a higher profile (than Cooper) manager towards getting a better striker (or two).

But then I'm quite loyal and always want people to be given the chance to succeed.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: dalumpimunki on Thursday, August 8, 2013, 16:55:38
Like many I'm finding myself warming to the idea.

The players seem to be keen and that helps.

It also like that when he speaks to the media he seems:

1. Human
2. Not thick
3. Not mental
4. Not completely lacking a sense of humour
5. Not completely up himself
6. Like he's got a vague idea of what he's doing and what kind of football he wants to play

I'm not sure that last time we had a manager that ticked all those boxes. Ossie possibly, although like most I rarely understood much more than the first three words of any interview he gave.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Red Jed on Thursday, August 8, 2013, 16:58:25
Excuse me for being a bit thick...but I hear about this Fredi person whether male or female it matters not and don't like what I hear.

Where exactly is the forum the thisis one, all I see is an old forum that nobody posts anything on in the last few months, anybody have a link please?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Thursday, August 8, 2013, 16:58:38
Like many I'm finding myself warming to the idea.

The players seem to be keen and that helps.

It also like that when he speaks to the media he seems:

1. Human
2. Not thick
3. Not mental
4. Not completely lacking a sense of humour
5. Not completely up himself
6. Like he's got a vague idea of what he's doing and what kind of football he wants to play

I'm not sure that last time we had a manager that ticked all those boxes. Ossie possibly, although like most I rarely understood much more than the first three words of any interview he gave.


Luggy ticked 1-5, shame his football philosophy was pretty dire to watch. Effective though.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Thursday, August 8, 2013, 17:06:34
1. Human
2. Not thick
3. Not mental
4. Not completely lacking a sense of humour
5. Not completely up himself
6. Like he's got a vague idea of what he's doing and what kind of football he wants to play
(http://www.swindonweb.com/uploaded_files/4570/images/fitton_wilson_450.jpg)

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Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, August 8, 2013, 17:32:33
Like many I'm finding myself warming to the idea.

The players seem to be keen and that helps.

It also like that when he speaks to the media he seems:

1. Human
2. Not thick
3. Not mental
4. Not completely lacking a sense of humour
5. Not completely up himself
6. Like he's got a vague idea of what he's doing and what kind of football he wants to play

I'm not sure that last time we had a manager that ticked all those boxes. Ossie possibly, although like most I rarely understood much more than the first three words of any interview he gave.


Don't make the classic error of thinking there's some correlation between ability at being a manager and media presentation.
There were plenty on here who wanted PdC out, not like you because of his politics, but because they didn't like his interviews.

Appointing Cooper, because he's around, cheap and a yes man is a disaster waiting to happen.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Abrahammer on Thursday, August 8, 2013, 17:43:08
There were plenty on here who wanted PdC out, not like you because of his politics, but because they didn't like his interviews.

Plenty, really?

Plenty on here cringed at certain things he said during interviews (myself included) and would have like him to have engaged brain before mouth sometimes. If I'm wrong fair enough but i can't remember seeing anyone wanting him to leave for this reason.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Thursday, August 8, 2013, 17:43:39
Don't make the classic error of thinking there's some correlation between ability at being a manager and media presentation.
There were plenty on here who wanted PdC out, not like you because of his politics, but because they didn't like his interviews.

Appointing Cooper, because he's around, cheap and a yes man is a disaster waiting to happen.
Then again, maybe it wouldn't be. No one knows. You can't make that statement like it's a fact.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: skay on Thursday, August 8, 2013, 18:06:29
Had Cooper at 20/1 a month back.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Thursday, August 8, 2013, 20:15:56
Don't make the classic error of thinking there's some correlation between ability at being a manager and media presentation.
There were plenty on here who wanted PdC out, not like you because of his politics, but because they didn't like his interviews.

Appointing Cooper, because he's around, cheap and a yes man is a disaster waiting to happen.

Seems unfair to me, Reg. What about how Cooper has managed so far? Teamwise, got them behind him. Tactically on the ball ( subs effectively). Results so far 50/50. Maybe he's around, cheap and compliant but he has started pretty well IMO.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Notts red on Thursday, August 8, 2013, 22:22:26
Jed has said tonight that Cooper hasn't yet asked for the job but is one of three being considered. Thought cooper implied on the radio after Tuesdays game that he wanted to be in charge for the up and coming games. Maybe mark should be given his chance, we've played some decent football in the two competitive matches and won one so could be a lot worse.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Thursday, August 8, 2013, 22:26:34
Yes won against a league 2 side at home. Im still undecided on him.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: otanswell on Thursday, August 8, 2013, 22:33:11
Sign the cunt up or give me the job


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Notts red on Thursday, August 8, 2013, 22:48:33
Yes won against a league 2 side at home. Im still undecided on him.
A few came unstuck against lower league sides Tuesday night so not completely straight forward. I'm certainly not 100% on the idea but how long is it going to take a new manager to settle in if that's the way the board go?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: BruceChatwin on Thursday, August 8, 2013, 22:54:57
I don't get what the rush is on appointing Cooper permanently.

Under the current arrangement the club has all the power. If in a couple of months time he's still doing well then we can offer him the full time job, but it could equally all go horribly wrong, in which case we haven't exposed ourselves to the extra liability of having to pay him off, and can move him quietly back into an assistant or youth team role.

I'm coming around to the idea that he might be the most suitable candidate myself, even if he has emerged essentially as the default option, but two games is not enough time to make a confident judgement either way.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: otanswell on Friday, August 9, 2013, 02:43:26
I like the bloke


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: A Gent Orange on Friday, August 9, 2013, 06:04:19
Won't be too long either until other clubs start sacking their managers, then our options would really open up.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Friday, August 9, 2013, 06:06:07
Can you get managers on loan?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: smalltowngypsymassacre on Friday, August 9, 2013, 06:44:26
I don't get what the rush is on appointing Cooper permanently.

Under the current arrangement the club has all the power. If in a couple of months time he's still doing well then we can offer him the full time job, but it could equally all go horribly wrong, in which case we haven't exposed ourselves to the extra liability of having to pay him off, and can move him quietly back into an assistant or youth team role.

I'm coming around to the idea that he might be the most suitable candidate myself, even if he has emerged essentially as the default option, but two games is not enough time to make a confident judgement either way.

Problem is that if in two months Cooper has a win % of say, 70, and hasn't yet been made permanent, another club could come in and Cooper would say 'well fuck Town, should've offered me the job at the start'. I see it as a bit of a no brainer. Regardless of who is in charge, we are going to have to play the same way with the squad as is, so there is limited impact any new manager can have. Cooper knows the players, knows the style we are going to be playing, so let's get him in continuing where he has started. And if he is as cheap as everyone is guessing, then paying him off should everything go pear shaped wouldn't be the end of the world anyway


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Paolo69 on Friday, August 9, 2013, 07:45:46
Appointing Cooper, because he's around, cheap and a yes man is a disaster waiting to happen.

Is that a fact Reg? Playing devil's advocate a little but if PDC would have been a bit cheaper and had said yes to the board and bit more often we might not be in this mess.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: kaufman on Friday, August 9, 2013, 08:23:27
Can you get managers on loan?

We could get this guy?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?sns=tw&v=6KeG_i8CWE8&desktop_uri=/watch?v=6KeG_i8CWE8&sns=tw&nomobile=1&utm_content=buffer6565d&utm_source=buffer&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Buffer


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: random_five on Friday, August 9, 2013, 08:29:22
Is that a fact Reg? Playing devil's advocate a little but if PDC would have been a bit cheaper and had said yes to the board and bit more often we might not be in this mess.

We might not be in this mess? Or we might not be in this Division?

Reg is right in my view.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, August 9, 2013, 08:32:35
We might not be in this mess? Or we might not be in this Division?
Or we could be in the same mess and even under Paolo not been promoted and in the same division we are in now, its all supposition.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: THE FLASH on Friday, August 9, 2013, 08:36:38
very suppositious


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Panda Paws on Friday, August 9, 2013, 08:37:30
Writing's on the wall...


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: random_five on Friday, August 9, 2013, 08:38:04
Or would could be in the same mess and even under Paolo not been promoted and in the same division we are in now, its all supposition.

Can you try that again in English please Pete


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, August 9, 2013, 08:47:33
Can you try that again in English please Pete
Overzealous fingers.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Paolo69 on Friday, August 9, 2013, 09:25:33
We might not be in this mess? Or we might not be in this Division?

Reg is right in my view.

Maybe both!

Do you and Reg know the lottery numbers for Saturday by any chance?


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, August 9, 2013, 09:30:19
Maybe both!

Do you and Reg know the lottery numbers for Saturday by any chance?

No, but I'm firmly of the opinion that the overwhelming majority of tickets will be losers...I know this may be a shock to some on here.


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: Paolo69 on Friday, August 9, 2013, 09:36:45
No, but I'm firmly of the opinion that the overwhelming majority of tickets will be losers...I know this may be a shock to some on here.

Haha. Good response Reg. Like it!


Title: Re: The new manager thread.
Post by: ronnie21 on Friday, August 9, 2013, 10:01:19
No, but I'm firmly of the opinion that the overwhelming majority of tickets will be losers...I know this may be a shock to some on here.
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