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« Reply #30 on: Monday, May 26, 2008, 17:56:41 » |
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To be fair, if they were being bribed, I can't imagine there'd be much money to be made on New Zealand losing. The far eastern betting market moves in mysterious ways...ask Marlon Samuels. |
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« Reply #31 on: Monday, May 26, 2008, 19:15:34 » |
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I suppose there'd be some decent odds when NZ were 85-1 in their second innings.
So what would you do for the final test? I'd be tempted to give the batsman a kick up the behind in the same way as they did to the bowlers in Napier. Send Collingwood back to Durham to get ready for the one dayers and give Bell a few weeks in the County game as well, bringing in Shah and Bopara, who seem to be the favoured replacements at the minute. Tremlett for Anderson might be worth a go as well.
I can see an unchanged team though.
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« Reply #32 on: Monday, May 26, 2008, 20:04:19 » |
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why would you make shitloads of changes to a side which hasn't yet won the series?
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« Reply #33 on: Monday, May 26, 2008, 20:20:10 » |
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because this is a side which has underperformed for three years and scraping by in this test should not hide some of the deficiencis - eg. bell has never scored a test ton when someone hasn't scored one before him, collingwood is horrificly out of form and anderson is never going to be consistent
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« Reply #34 on: Monday, May 26, 2008, 20:23:04 » |
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why would you make shitloads of changes to a side which hasn't yet won the series? Knowing our selectors they'll wait till next summer when the Aussies are here to do that. I sense another 5-0 or 4-1 in next years Ashes  |
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« Reply #35 on: Monday, May 26, 2008, 21:13:15 » |
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bell has never scored a test ton when someone hasn't scored one before him, Is that true? I knew his weakness was on the mental side but blimey! |
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« Reply #36 on: Monday, May 26, 2008, 21:13:47 » |
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why would you make shitloads of changes to a side which hasn't yet won the series? Knowing our selectors they'll wait till next summer when the Aussies are here to do that. I sense another 5-0 or 4-1 in next years Ashes unfortunately I think you may be right. |
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« Reply #37 on: Tuesday, May 27, 2008, 09:53:13 » |
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because this is a side which has underperformed for three years and scraping by in this test should not hide some of the deficiencis - eg. bell has never scored a test ton when someone hasn't scored one before him, collingwood is horrificly out of form and anderson is never going to be consistent You said yourself after the 05 Ashes that Bell will be one of the best players in the world. I raised an eyebrow at the time, it's nearly disappeared off the back of me head now. |
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« Reply #38 on: Tuesday, May 27, 2008, 10:04:23 » |
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He's got all the technique in the world, he just needs to toughen up a bit. I think he can be world class, but i'm not sure whether he will.
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« Reply #39 on: Tuesday, May 27, 2008, 10:05:06 » |
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He needs to bat at 3.
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« Reply #40 on: Tuesday, May 27, 2008, 10:10:29 » |
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True. At the moment our cricket team seems to be a bit like our football team- trying to get the best players on the pitch, no matter what the position.
Bell's close fielding can't be underestimated as an advantage though.
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« Reply #41 on: Tuesday, May 27, 2008, 11:17:56 » |
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I think something needs to be done about the middle order. As has been said before, Bell's still not quite there and Collingwood seems to have lost his edge. And for all his skill, Pieterson just doesn't stay at the crease long enough.
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« Reply #42 on: Tuesday, May 27, 2008, 13:16:56 » |
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I'd move Bell further up the order. I think he is capable of doing well as he's hit some great knocks for England but does need to do it more often
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« Reply #43 on: Tuesday, May 27, 2008, 13:33:13 » |
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Some of Colly's shots yesterday were embarassing... and why did Hair not give him out to Vettori? Seemed a strange one that
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« Reply #44 on: Tuesday, May 27, 2008, 15:20:04 » |
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because this is a side which has underperformed for three years and scraping by in this test should not hide some of the deficiencis - eg. bell has never scored a test ton when someone hasn't scored one before him, collingwood is horrificly out of form and anderson is never going to be consistent You said yourself after the 05 Ashes that Bell will be one of the best players in the world. I raised an eyebrow at the time, it's nearly disappeared off the back of me head now. but there's only so long you can live on what you should be delivering, not what you are actually delivering. I'd move Bell further up the order. I think he is capable of doing well as he's hit some great knocks for England but does need to do it more often 1) why would you move him up the order? who would he displace? 2) name me one i have been a massive fan of bell but there comes a point where you have to say he's let his mouth do the talking (remember the stuff about trying to be england's ponting a year ago) rather than his bat |
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