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« Reply #6750 on: Friday, January 1, 2021, 10:36:28 »

Healthcare workers in England have been told to reschedule appointments for the second dose of the Pfizer and BioNTech covid-19 vaccine after the government’s advisory committee decided that vaccinating as many people as possible with a first dose should be the priority.

https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4978

No idea if this'll made a difference to the efficacy of the vaccine but it does seem like an odd decision

Why does it seem an odd decision? It will enable the quicker roll out of protection to the most vulnerable? So far 20% of the 80+ have been vaccinated.

Rationale for the change.

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« Reply #6751 on: Friday, January 1, 2021, 11:07:49 »

Why does it seem an odd decision? It will enable the quicker roll out of protection to the most vulnerable? So far 20% of the 80+ have been vaccinated.

Rationale for the change.

https://m.box.com/shared_item/https%3A%2F%2Fapp.box.com%2Fs%2Fuwwn2dv4o2d0ena726gf4403f3p2acnu
On the face of it I thought it odd, however I stand down my concerns having read the link you've kindly provided
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« Reply #6752 on: Friday, January 1, 2021, 11:15:05 »

On the face of it I thought it odd, however I stand down my concerns having read the link you've kindly provided

It will annoy people who were meant to get the 2nd dose but will hopefully save more lives.
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« Reply #6753 on: Friday, January 1, 2021, 11:15:17 »

Pfizer are actively discouraging the policy and saying there is no proof of efficacy with a single dose, so a little concerning. If the efficacy is indeed 70% then it makes complete sense.
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« Reply #6754 on: Friday, January 1, 2021, 11:20:10 »

Pfizer are actively discouraging the policy and saying there is no proof of efficacy with a single dose, so a little concerning. If the efficacy is indeed 70% then it makes complete sense.

Agreed it is a little concerning and they don't have proof but they have years of experience with other vaccines, see link.

https://twitter.com/sandyddouglas/status/1344949269535608832?s=19
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« Reply #6755 on: Friday, January 1, 2021, 11:50:23 »

Healthcare workers in England have been told to reschedule appointments for the second dose of the Pfizer and BioNTech covid-19 vaccine after the government’s advisory committee decided that vaccinating as many people as possible with a first dose should be the priority.

https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4978

No idea if this'll made a difference to the efficacy of the vaccine but it does seem like an odd decision

Not sure, but they have now made my 80 year old father in law more anxious about it than he has been throughout this. He’s had the first jab and is now petrified it wont be effective by the time 12 weeks is up. Keep telling him not to google stuff but he wont listen
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« Reply #6756 on: Friday, January 1, 2021, 11:56:12 »

Not sure, but they have now made my 80 year old father in law more anxious about it than he has been throughout this. He’s had the first jab and is now petrified it wont be effective by the time 12 weeks is up. Keep telling him not to google stuff but he wont listen
He should look on the bright side, my old man is 83 and still hasn't heard a sausage about getting the first jab.
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« Reply #6757 on: Friday, January 1, 2021, 12:52:09 »

Thats what i told him, i also said they wouldnt do it if it wasnt safe to do so
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« Reply #6758 on: Saturday, January 2, 2021, 10:03:03 »

A misleading headline from the NYT...but it seems as if there's a bit of woolly wording regarding which lovely drugs you could get for your second jab.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/01/health/coronavirus-vaccines-britain.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

From the Covid19 greenbook
Previous incomplete vaccination
If the course is interrupted or delayed, it should be resumed using the same vaccine but
the first dose should not be repeated. There is no evidence on the interchangeability of the
COVID-19 vaccines although studies are underway. Therefore, every effort should be made
to determine which vaccine the individual received and to complete with the same vaccine.


https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/948757/Greenbook_chapter_14a_v4.pdf
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« Reply #6759 on: Saturday, January 2, 2021, 16:57:36 »

Nice infographic for the COVID deniers

https://time.graphics/line/455000

"COVID denialism is fuelled by frequent and repeated claims in the media from a small number of individuals.

So here is a history of the times they were wrong about nearly everything, an interactive timeline"

https://twitter.com/DrDomPimenta/status/1345411487494516738
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« Reply #6760 on: Sunday, January 3, 2021, 13:58:00 »

Back to school then kids. You couldn't make this up. The spread will continue.
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« Reply #6761 on: Sunday, January 3, 2021, 14:02:28 »

Back to school then kids. You couldn't make this up. The spread will continue.

Back to school bu the he also threatens tougher lockdown measures could be implemented😁
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« Reply #6762 on: Sunday, January 3, 2021, 14:10:47 »

Do they think kids are immune or don't transmit the infection? What's the point of any measures/lockdowns if you are only going to do half a job? Ridiculous.
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« Reply #6763 on: Sunday, January 3, 2021, 14:11:27 »

Do they think kids are immune or don't transmit the infection? What's the point of any measures/lockdowns if you are only going to do half a job? Ridiculous.

They literally don't have a clue
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« Reply #6764 on: Sunday, January 3, 2021, 14:33:30 »

Infection rates where we are (NE Hampshire) are very high.  Seriously considering keeping our 11 year old off school next week.  It's a complex question.  But the COVID stats are all pointing one way right now.  Fully expecting the government, as usual, to get to the same place as everyone else...just several weeks later.
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