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Just a general question for General Discuission  :nod:

Basically i'm picking my GCSE results up tomorrow, and since the majority of you farts are older than me, i was wondering when applying for jobs, do i need the actual peice of paper with the results, or do a get a seperate certificate posted (I know 100% we don't get any tomorrow.)

Thanks  ;)

So you think you'll get some then?

In my day we got the pieces of paper with the grades on and that was all you needed.

Im fairly confident on my french one, that it  :(

Did you do RE?

Yep, definetly failed that. I got an F in my marks gospel paper in year 10.

Usually job application forms will have a section where you list your subjects and your grades.

I've only filled out about 3 in my life time but its always been the case. As far as I remember they never asked to see the actual certificates to see if the grades I had put down were anyway truthful.

So, unless you need them for a college/uni corse, you could risk making them up? Sounds promising..  :nod:

I've applied for about 15+ jobs this past month, everyone was the same, you just have to list qualifications not prove them with the paper copy.

Ahh, could prove useful, cheers :)

I've never been asked to prove my qualifications, but it's worth keeping the paper just in case.

I'm seriously impressed if you managed to fail RE.

I nearly failed GCSE RE, but I did tear a load of ankle ligaments about 20 minutes before the exam so my mind was a bit distracted from explaining the five pillars of Islam.

In my school you sit 1 paper in year 10, and 1 in year 11. In my year 10 paper i got something stupid like 18%, and in my year 11 paper i wrote about charlton away in the playoffs as a "Religious Experience"

I'm pretty sure i've failed.

I'm pretty sure I quoted principly from Pulp Fiction and I got an A*.

I'd be screwed if asked to prove my results, I lost my copys about a year ago.  ???

I also wrote a letter about immigration for my english gcse, which according to my teacher wont get marked  :nod:

But likely would get published in the Daily Mail, give it a go.

Presumably you refused to answer the 5 Pillars of Islam question on grounds of conscientious objection.

Didn't study islam  :D

For Colleges, don't you use your predicted grades. As for jobs, I've never had an employer for prove, but some do require evidence.

God i hope so. I'm predicted A's and B's but im looking at E's and F's

Hate to say it but you probably won't get the course you want. All depends on the course. Maths and English are the more important grades.

I've accepted along time ago that i've pretty much fucked my life up by not caring about school. I'm looking to get a job, which is always easy..   :badmood: :doh:

You get three years of College free though, so if you wish to, you can go and redo your GCSEs in Year One and then do two of A-Levels/BTECs or whatever you want.

Apprenticeship? what sort of thing interests you?

I'd try not to get too disappointed. There are plenty of options, and plenty of guidance out there.

Computors, graphic design and whatnot, only thing is i've lliterally dont nothing all summer, not applied anywhere apart from my school 6th form where you need 5 A*-C grades, including 4 B's or higher in your chosen subjects  :eek:

Its what you do now, not what you did at school that matters.
The country is full of scholars with no job......................................be upbeat and respect people and you will be fine.
Good luck with your results all the same.

Cheers mate.

I'll post them back here wednesday, going to a party straight from picking them up tomorrow.

I failed RE. Ungraded.

All I wrote was I want a beer

Maybe you could look at working or studying abroad Crispy?

And leave all you lot behind? I know you couldnt live without me  :girlgiggle: ;)

How come so many took R.E.? When I took mine we only had to chose one humanity. I chose Geography, fuck History or R.E. Crispy, I never gave a fuck about my grades. I didn't even collect them, my parents asked if they could, so they did and told me a few days later when I phoned home.

As for proving grades, a mate of mine blagged having a degree and A-Levels (he only had GCSEs) and got a top job in Nationwide. He later left and got the very degree he claimed to have already had. Legend.

Indeed, we had to do one hour of R.E. a week in year 10 and 11 and got some certificate of achievement or something.

They have internet in the colonies nowadays. They even have internet on Manchester Road.

I destroyed my GCSE results/certificates as soon as I got them. Never been asked for them, whether applying for jobs or enrolling on a variety of college courses that I dropped out of

I lost mine pretty much straight away, which annoyed me. Haven't needed them for any jobs or to enrol in uni this year though, so i'm less bothered now.

Not caring about school is cool nowadays, it's not good to do well.

Fuck GCSE's, get paid to 'turn up' until your 18 with EMA, then get a job which will lead you somewhere*.

Education is nothing but debt after that, with no way to pay it back unless you went to Oxford/Cambridge or decide your degree is worth shit and forget all about it, and get a job as per *.

(But GCSE's were easy  :-[)

The only time I've ever been asked to provide original certificates was when I applied for membership of a professional organisation. So if you want to become a chartered engineer (or similar) in the future, don't lose them....

I recently moved jobs to a local authority in the north west.  I had to provide both my degree certificates, all of my A level and As level certificates, and all of my GCSE certificates - all originals as well.  It took days, and a round trip of 300 miles, to find them.

I did O levels,i failed them all except Cooking.Ive never been asked to prove my results but ive always had utterly shit jobs :(

i'm at the stage of making life decisions, i've got a uni offer but really don't know if i want to take it as it's at Bristol which i think is too close to home, lord knows why i even put it at my first choice. but the thing is if i don't take it i'd have no idea what else to do with my life, parents are pushing me to go and banging on about well paid jobs etc, why is it that everything revolves around money? ultimately don't we all just do the same, be born work until we're 70 and then die, i don't want to be stuck in a job i hate all my life just to earn good money, which is why i have no clue what to do.

ha this has been a bit of an outpouring, any counselling appreciated  ;)

I'd go. University is a cracking way to avoid having to get a job for a few years, fuck financial responsibility and all that, enjoy your life.

What he said

I think uni's fine, if you know what you want to do with yourself. I've been slated by my mates because I chose to go into employment rather than go to uni like they did. We've basically lived the exact same lives, only I had a lot more money to do it with and could also afford to do things they could not (ie, travel to away games). Now a few have come out of it and can't find proper work, are in shitloads of debt and have found themselves temping on horrible hours which have totally ruined their social lives whereas I've found myself a career path which gives me enough money for a car, a house, a good amount of disposable income so I can thoroughly enjoy my life. Alright I've got a lot more responsibility on my shoulders, but I prefer it that way.

Of course there are success stories, but I work with people doing the shittest jobs ever who have degrees in Computer Science & whatnot. In fact the only person I can really think of that has done pretty well out of it is our very own Si Pie! So I guess it depends on the person really, and what they ultimately want to do. I don't regret not going at all tbh, but I'n sure there are plenty on here who will obviously have their own positive experiences.

I was in the same position. I ended up not going. Just my opinion, but if you're questioning whether to go or not then there must be some doubt in your mind.

Sometimes, with hindsight, I wish I went to Uni. But most of the time, I'm glad I didn't. I'd be screwed financially right now and wouldn't have a cat in hell's chance of getting a job. Plus I wouldn't be married, mortgaged and have a kid.

Yup. I don't regret not going to Uni either. May not have as much of the lifstyle but I sure as hell have enjoyed the free money from living at home.

At the moment, if you have a uni place take it. In the current climate its a good time to go to uni, but a very bad time to try and find substantial work. In three years the climate should be growing and recovering, and it should be a good place to graduate into.

Not only that, but uni is the best three years of your life, so long as you enjoy the course and the occupations it is preparing you for. But do it for you, not your parents or anyone else. I went to Bristol to study Aeronautical Engineering because, basically, my parents and college tutors wanted me to, but I soon quit and went elsewhere to study what I love and what I want to do for the rest of my life, loved every second of it and came out with a first class degree

thats how i feel, that its my parents wanting me to go etc, theres doubt in my mind because i'm not sure if i really want to go but then if i didn't theres nothing else i'd really want to do, apart from get the hell out of here haha. i've often wondered if it would be possible to get around europe or somewhere working as i go, i might find somethign along the way that i really want to do that way soapy tit wank. also, how easy was it to change your uni and course, was it in the same year that u started?

Why not do the travelling for a year now, and go uni next year?

I know just as many people who have done well for themselves by looking for and seizing an opportunity and have not gone down the usual academic routes to get there. The key is putting in the effort to find it.
Just try and have a fair idea of where you want to be a little way down the line. If you're not sure then things like college and uni are a good option because it gradually eases you into having additional responsibilities and gives you time to explore different options and make up your mind. Just be mindful that one day you'll have some decisions to make but that you don't have to always stick with the first thing you do.

If you do have a fair idea already, explore the jobs market and see what employers are looking for. You may find you need to go get certain experiences or qualifications first or it may not be the case. I didn't have to go to uni to get the qualification I have now but it probably made it slightly easier. College was a must in my case but I didn't start thinking about jobs until I was a year into college. I'd done a couple of part time jobs whilst there and I certainly knew I didn't want to be working in a shop etc. for the rest of my life, so experiences like that help too.

On the going to university issue (doesn't relate to Crispy as of now), don't let people put you off regarding the debt issue. Aside from the student loan I took out (which really isn't going to burden you once you leave), I only racked up £2000 of debt in 3 years. Realistically if I wasn't hell bent on having a good time I could have easily worked that off by doing a part time job for a year and being more careful.

On the flip side to Tails' scenario - when I left education I was earning just over £14k a year. My mates took the piss because they were a few grand more yet hadn't done anymore studies. They didn't seem to realise my potential earnings would trounce their's. But I didn't do it for bragging rights, it's all about personal ambition and where you want to be. I'd probably be happier doing some geeky IT job on far less money in reality.

However it goes and whatever you choose, good luck.

Why not earn a wage and do the Open University - thier courses are excellent

Good luck young TEF'ers today.

Travel. You won't regret it.

Don't worry about language barriers, my girlfriend worked for 6 months in Guatemala and she didn't speak a word of Spanish when she arrived, nor did the locals speak any English (or Norwegian for that matter).

Im sure this has been said already an I dont want to sound like an old fuck but remeber theres plenty of time.  I fucked up o levels, got 2 u's at A level and went out to work.  I went back and did other qualifications and ended up going to uni at 24.  I got my degree but even then it was pretty irrelevent to what Ive ended up doing.  It bought me the time to find out what I actually wanted to do.

Fucking up at school was probably the best thing I could have done in the long run as I now have a life and a job I love.

Except earning a wage, that's the route i've just taken. Just reserved my place on a "Technology of music" course, my mothers doing a law course and said its really good. Is a good way to go and as said, can earn a wage at the same time.

didn't have to show me degree certificate - they checked up on it and that trumps the rest of the jissom I got. IT is a great career - piss easy and you get plenty of money

For a school leaver today wanting to work in IT I reckon university isn't the best option any more. Just get any IT job you can, preferably within a big company, then start studying for certifications in your spare time. Start with the basic ones in the field you want to get in to, when you've got them you should be able to get a relevant job (if you haven't already).

By the time you're 21 you'll have certifications equivalent to a degree plus 5 years experience and you'll be earning very decent money.

It's not easy getting entry level jobs in IT companies atm, especially without the appropriate experience or qualification(s). Not saying it's impossible but it's a lot tougher than it was two or three years ago... in my personal experience at least.

I didn't go to Uni, saved up and went travelling instead. The experience I got out of that was incredible but admittedly not for everyone.

I now have a good job in the City and career path ahead so no regrets!

Don't write uni off though, there's some great courses out there.

True... but for some reason i'm jacking it in!

I got good GCSE results and then good college qualifications and my dad especially was really disappointed that I didn't want to go to University, but I had no desire to.  Although I had a number of qualifications,  I didn't really know what I wanted to do.  Struggled to find a job, temped in call centres and then ended up doing secretarial work for a number of years.  I came out of that about 5 years ago and moved into an admin role in the project environment, where I have now manged to move up the ladder several times and subsequently now have a job that I enjoy and pays bloody well.  However, it's taken me to be 35 to get to that stage and from taking a job opportunity that I so nearly missed!

I don't regret not going to Uni, but what I do regret is not travelling a bit when I still lived at home and was child free!  I've had some lovely holidays, but it's not quite the same and if I could turn the clock back 17 years, I would definitely go and see a bit more of the world.

Where is Crispy ?

Has he gone on an all day bender ?

Well your life wont be over when they have reached 18........buy some boots and get travelling.

S

At the park drinking cider with his mates?

Will be 50 when my youngest is 18, might put on a backpack and get going!

I hope Crispy is out celebrating and not commiserating!

I'm sure he won't mind me posting that.

Happy days


Well done Crispy ! :beers:

Fair play

I fucked about at school so was in no position to go to Uni early doors.

However, I did get my act together and went to uni and got an MBA when I was 33

I fucked up big time at school. Still did what I wanted to do job wise

Thats a pretty good set of results.

Enough to go to college if you wanted to easily, in your first post it came across that you werent really thinking about college as an option because you didnt think you'd get the grades.

To answer Crispy's original question - you get the actual proper certificates a few months later but in my experience employers don't ever ask to see these.

Well done Crispy, I bet you're chuffed with those results?  :clap:

So, if you'd revised and made effort, you'd have been all A stars?

Clever little racist

To all the kids who got good grades; congratulations.

To all those who didn't; heres the number for benefit enqiries 0800 7564 758.

The Samaritans

08457 90 90 90

Let's be honest, if you fail GCSE Maths these days, you probably can't dial phone numbers anyway.

I actually need to call that tomorrow to ask when my benefits are coming through.

That quote was courtesy of sickipedia

i did, miserably.
and i work for a phone company now :)

Ha, that either shows what I know or explains a lot about the standard of service from phone companies :) Probably both

Not as bad as i expected..

B in English,
B in Maths,
D in RE
C in everything else.. Including PE!  :D

Congrats!

PE ???? do you get grades for Playing Football ???

Never in my day! soapy tit wank

Oh and congrats too all GCES type people

I got all A's B's and C's at GCSE.

Then I discovered LSD and ecstasy.

If you genuinely pissed about as much as you claimed to, that's a decent result. Bet you're gutted about the D in RE, though :)

I've just graduated from Uni after 3 years, and i have to say i am so glad i am no longer a student! I turned down the oppotunity to do a 4th year because i am sick and tired of student life, as have been in education pretty much for the past 18-19 years! (I'm now 22). Don't get me wrong, the student life is great, especially when you're 18, but when you have to start growing up and become a bit more independant, it starts to drag....
Uni is a great experience, but in my honest opinion, it's overrated....But then i guess it's a case of 'different horses for different courses'.

Good luck for the future to anyone who has today recieved their GCSE's or has recently recieved their A levels  :)

That's generally really good mate. B's in the two 'main' subjects too. Good stuff man!

Thanks, and i can assure you i did. Not trying to act hard or sound cool but all my friends had the revision guides and time tables, and all went to after school/lunch time revision classes, of which i attended, or had none.

Just picked mine up... Pretty pleased considering I did fuck all.
2A*s in English & English Literature.
3B's in Geography, History & Sociology.
C's in Maths and Triple Science. Also got a certificate in digital applications (CiDA) and got a merit in Sport BTEC.

no mcdonalds for you then ;)

Well done,

GCSE's are the only results day i've been genrally happy with.

A Levels is where it went downhill.

Oh and I got a D in RE gcse.

I got a U in RE 8)

True story here.  We told one lad in our year - and he wasn't the sharpest tool in the box - that it was compulsory for anyone getting an A grade in GCSE RE to become a priest.  He went for it completely.  Started telling people how relieved he was that he was going to fail anyway.

My lad got what he needed for college. b's mostly

Not permanently at least! haha


Cheers, similar to my brother... Aced his GCSE's and just fucked about and got shit grades at college. I may actually try at A-Level, been winging it for too long!

Oh, What school did your son go to Arriba? Might know/know of him through playing football against him or whatever...

Well done to your lad arriba.

So an uproar has occurred because grade results have fallen especially in English. Apparently marking was a lot 'harsher' a d unexpected. This pisses me off. It's not the marking has changed, it's That kids are a lot thicker...

Life of Riley.

If you did your job and blocked facebook and twitter on the school pc's results would be a lot higher sippo ;)

It's only me who can get on those! ;-)

It's the porn sites that cause the issues. Feckin jez Kyle will be rammed next series.

Or the teachers and IT technicians not doing their job properly ;)

RE: Exam results

Does the Flynn effect count for exams? In intelligence tests the Flynn effect states that every decade average IQ test results go up 3 points.

This doesn't necessarily mean we are getting more intelligent, more that we are exposed to the type of questions the tests pose and hence perform better.

So if the same thing can be said of GCSE/A-Levels then surely they need to be 'normalised' or else the results are meaningless outside a a small window of comparison.

so was i until i got a U on a section i was told i got a D on which would of gav e me a C overall.but i got  a D..hmm seems fishy ;)

do u need a language GCSE to go to uni as i got a D in mine yesterday but i can till up it to a C and im doing German this year..so is it worth it.we fit two year courses into one year at my school haha we get 2 options for year nine 3 for year 10 and 3 for year 11.I got my year 9 results back yesterday got a distinction in ICT,C in history (THANK GOD ELSE MY DAD WOULD HAVE BEAT ME) and a D in the french.

No, but you do need to speak English.

I'd suggest you concentrate on the English language before you go worrying about foreign ones...

No idea. My son was accepted at Reading Uni last week. He is going French, German and Business studies. He told me that he was warned the exams were being marked harder this year. He needed an A in French, B in Maths and a C in business studies. He got 3 B's and was just 4 points off an A in French which pissed him off.

yeah i felt crushed when it came back i had wasted a year on French but i can still get a C so its not so bad.but thats a feeling i want to feel minimal times so for the next two years the xbox is going up in the attic and im not buying fifa 13 or anything like that as i want the good grades haha

Sacrifices son, sacrifices. Just look at it this way. If you want something that badly you'll move heaven and earth to get it. It is down to you and your character as to how well you do, your parents can't help you now like they did when you were a kid. They make choices for you and guide you and teach you things about life that will hopefully put you on the right path. The path leads to the wide world and you are approaching the gate to the wide world. The path you chose and not always the one you tread starts now with your exams. Like I said you have time to put things right and putting away the games consoles is a good start. You might also want to consider shelving girls, parties, drugs and STFC..... Nah forget the last one. Plenty of time for the others though.