Coronavirus

[Valid Pint]

But certainly not anarchists

Phew, thankfully your mates are off the hook then. That's OK

[horlock07]

Interesting documentary on channel 4 about South Korea’s approach to Covid19. Their premise was basically about shitloads of testing and contact tracing. There were elements of self-imposed lockdown in one of the cities but on the whole life didn’t drastically change.

As contact tracing relies deeply on the invasion of privacy I don’t think that would have gone down well at all in the UK, however the Korean outlook is that their health is more important and so were happy to go down that route.

Twitter awash with bots suggesting this could not be done in UK 'cos the lefties would moan about the incursion into social monitoring.

This thread of tweets make quite interesting/damning reading if you can get beyond the dreadful way its written.

https://twitter.com/atatimelikethis/status/1249954199665692676?s=20

Watching that doc there were any number of countries they could have chosen;

South Korea Population 51,780,579, density 1,339/sq. mile: 259 deaths
Hong Kong Population 7,500,700, density 17,565/sq. mile 4 deaths
Taiwan: Population 23,604,2650, density 1,689/sq. mile 7 deaths
Singapore Population  5,703,600, density 20,445 /sq. mile 21 deaths
UK Population  67,886,004 , density 725 /sq. mile 33,186 deaths

[jayohaitchenn]

A second Doctor based at GWH has died after testing positive for covid.

[pauld]

A second Doctor based at GWH has died after testing positive for covid.

Fuck that's horrible

[Batch]

fuck.

[horlock07]

Not "quoted" but US and German protests have both been far right, our lot tend to copycat the US, driven by a lot of the same propaganda and sometimes funding networks too. All the "anti-lockdown" stuff in the media has been from the right, thundering articles in the Telegraph and Spectator about the nanny state taking away our freedoms etc

[pauld]

Ah, should have guessed. For those who don't know, Jayda Fransen is a convicted racist who used to be the deputy leader of Britain First until she fell out with fellow convicted racist Paul Golding.

[4D]

I have to laugh at the way people use the word 'unlawful'. Basically their version is 'I don't like it/ I don't like being told what to do/ I am spitting the dummy' = 'unlawful'.

[pauld]

I have to laugh at the way people use the word 'unlawful'. Basically their version is 'I don't like it/ I don't like being told what to do/ I am spitting the dummy' = 'unlawful'.

Yes, you're right. Although tbf Jayda Fransen and her Britain First colleagues do have more experience than most of what constitutes "unlawful"

[JBZ]

I have to laugh at the way people use the word 'unlawful'. Basically their version is 'I don't like it/ I don't like being told what to do/ I am spitting the dummy' = 'unlawful'.

Or it is a 'breach of hooman rights'.

[Sippo]

Been to a few of our schools today, and them reopening is going to be a struggle. It just isn't practical, and Feasible. The heads are dreading it, as it's such a nightmare.

I wonder how many parents will keep their kids off. My youngest is in year1. I am undecided on what is best. If my eldest is off, what harm is it having both off.

[jayohaitchenn]

My lad is in reception, no fucking way is he going back.

[Costanza]

My daughter is reception year and we are desperate for her to go back simply because she loves school and misses her friends.

However, I said to my wife when we were watching the announcement that I didn't think the school unions would be comfortable with that early a start and, until I see anything that makes me feel satisfied that a plan is in place, neither am I.

[Sippo]

The problem is that headteachers do not know what to do. They have had little, or no guidance.

[horlock07]

The problem is that headteachers do not know what to do. They have had little, or no guidance.

Indeed, from speaking to a head, when this all started they were almost getting too much info from government with daily updates, however. that's all dried up and they know as much as the general public about what's to happen.

Having been involved in certain school events and being aware of the pages of risk assessment that must be completed to walk from the school to church it seems very odd that during a global pandemic what appears to be a rather arbitrary decision can be reached, likewise I don't really understand why the decisions have been made for years 1 & 6 to go back, you have got no chance with yr 1's social distancing so why can anyone think that meets the governments guidelines? Thankfully our little un is Yr 2 so she is not in the first group to go back, TBH not that keen on her going back before September at the earliest.

But then again its no odder than the estate agent guidelines which mean that if I put my house on the market I can welcome any Tom Dick or Harry into it, yet you cannot engage with family members you know have isolated.