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the time has come,it is inevitable that malpas is on his way,doomed to the footballing scrap heap.
let's have some speculation.
who do you want as our manager to lift the club and get the fans smiling again.

i'll start the ball rolling with gary speed is my choice for player manager.sod the applications, i'd offer the job to him.

Too simalar to our current midfield haha seriously though calderwood or penny

King Kev?? haha On a serious note, Steve Cotterill would be my pick.

Holloway

andy king

I started this thread last week....

Anyways, the name I mentioned was Billy Davies. Did well at Preston then at Derby and although he was sacked no one was going to do anything with them in the Prem.

Has been out of work for nearly a year now so might be desperate for a route back in...or might not, you'll have to ask him!

Of course he would fuck off the first chance he gets and would only be here short term but the fans want a name and/or a proven manager. He fits the bill, however he'll screw us over long term and bring us right back to square one....but some of our fans dont think long term.

Someone from Thisis, they seem to know best.

Holloway, Cotterill, Billy Davies, Calderwood, Ling.

Richard Money would be a good appointment.

Someone on thisis thinks Curbishley is going to be offered the job.........DELUDED!!!

 Money is currently Academy director at Newcastle...Prem back room jobs pay a fortune, which is why he quit Walsall.

 Steve Clarke dropped from 600K pa to 400K, by going from Chelsea to WHU.

no you didn't. it was similar but inferior to this one so there.
i'd be happy with your recomendation in all seriousness.

I'd find it very hard to bemoan a STFC legend in staff - it hasn't worked here in the past but you never know.

I'd go for Cotterill feom that list.

Money would be a really goos shout if he ends up out of a job at Newcastle.

Mine was clearly better, it was started by me...

Whoever the next manager is he HAS to unite the fanbase. HAS TO....

I dont think Billy Davies would come here and if he did he'd be off within 2 years. Personally I think we need someone who will be here for at least 3 years and progress year after year.

Almost like Kingy did 13th, 10th, 5th....it was all downhill from there though

If Fitton wants long term stability he will have to look to a previous Town Legend.

As for all the others, he will have to chance his arm.

Not Holloway though for fucks sake, hes so Bristol Rovers it makes me sick.

Our fans wouldnt care.

Chris Hackett didnt even get any stick today and hes as Oxford United as the come....

Luc Nijholt

Shame on us.

Plymouth Agyle fans fell into the trap thinking that Ian Holloway had become a Pilgrim... and when the big pay cheque came knocking he was gone. He is Gas... Nobody else, other than an admiration for QPR.

However, I must admit that even though I don't like the guy, I can't help but think he'd be next in line at the CG.

Hacket got abuse

We wouldnt be able to afford Billy Davies, id be happy with either Holloway or Calderwood

Good.

Im keeping faith in malpas.

Fitton wont give him the boot YET.

I reckon he has two days flea

Malpas in a wig and fake tache.

would save money.

serious question, what has Malpas done to improve us?

I admire you and agree that I don't think Fitton will do any sacking this week. But the fixture list doesn't look promising as far as MM getting himself and us out of this current situation.

Haha.

Calderwood for me it wouldt take much to prise him away,or wait as he could be on borrowed time and put bodin in temp charge.

Least they got red and white flowing through their veins.

If we lose at hartlepool he should be sacked, he cannot keep getting away with poor performances and defeats, we haven't won a game all month and have not keep a clean sheet for months on end.

If it had to be a former player then I'd choose Calderwood over Ling. But others have voiced their desire over the years... Shaun Taylor and Luc Nijholt for example... They might not have the greatest CV in the world (although both have worked non-stop since retiring) but why not?

 CC is an interesting one....not popular with Forest fans and they're struggling, not sure what his contract situation is, but sometimes these take a bit of sorting if a manager is sacked. Meaning they can't take another job straight away.

 Problem of course is that none of the present Board are STFC fans, and probably don't know of CC's STFC connections.

With the FourFourTwo stuff and the regular interviews for the local press etc, i reckon the new regime like the limelight a bit. Holloway would bring with him a couple of mentions from SoccerAM each week so we'd be on the tv too...

Has the 'Sturrock's coming back' rumour disappeared now Plymuff are winning again?

who do you want reggie baby?

Isn't the investor Arbib an STFC 'fan' though? Maybe he would have a word.

Not sure that is true with Rogers (obvious why he came back), Trollope, Bodin and Taylor (in a different capacity) returning..

Taylor a maybe i guess,Nijholt maybe a risk tho having not managed in the uk.Would the fans give Nijholt the time if we kept losing.

3 games ago they were talking the same as we are now... and that is a fact.

I'll throw one in there ... what about Nigel Clough???

For the record - I think if Malpas does go and I dont think he will - It will be Salisbury manager Nick Holmes that takes over ...

Billy Davies wants to manage in the Premiership, or at least at a club that can get there.

http://mysportsthoughts.wordpress.com/2008/08/20/billy-davies-im-ready-to-get-back/

My choice would most probably be Cotterill, but would he apply again after failing last time?

And if he did, would the board employ him after turning him down last time?

N'ah, he's got a job for life until Forest take a punt on him !!!!!



I just don't think that would change the mood.

 Gary Waddock...

Ok, I didnt hear Hackett get any abuse.

Anway I've got the perfect answer. A manager who is unemployed, would be loyal to Swindon, wouldnt be on huge wages and knows everything about football

Me. DV for next Swindon manager.

I'd appoint Sonic Youth as my assistant and get flammableBen and Fred Elliot + 20 pints of cider to do the post match interviews because im dull and boring, but not Scottish.

This may not be a serious post.

Great, a clown.

Pull yourself together Swindon for fucks sake. No Holloway ever. No.

you're such a retard it's untrue.

and break a 30 year tradition of not taking anyone elses manager!?! How much comp do you think we'd have to pay Aldershot if we did approach him?

Dave Turner from Bassett!

Chokri Kartit from Cirencester United!

god, the horror...the horror...

i'd like to see dave penney. billy davies is a good shout although i'm bored of jocks.

dave bassett with joe kinnear as assistant...maybe we could get howard wilkinson in as director of football...that could be the ultimate shit collection of managers :D

But Penney is a scummer!?!

 No idea what his contract situation is...but I prefer the idea of someone from a lower level with something to prove....than a Cotterill type who has been round the block.

Jan Aage Fjortoft :D

Penney done brilliantly at Donny but has been a bit of a let down at Darlo.

Fair enough, wasn't the Daish/Kimble coaching team from Fatbury's boys interested last time around?

I dont think Nick Holmes is a bad shout to be honest.

Im dissapointed you didnt mention the DV/Sonic Youth team management team :(

 Apparently...but they've not actually done anything.  Waddock won a league, with slender resources available.....he also played for the Town, so all bases covered.

shhhhhhhhh

he's far more synonymous with donny anyway.
holmes has done okay with salisbury but he is the most boring man alive. i cannot comprehend how he motivates himself to get out of bed, let alone a football team.

the DV/SY combo will happen one day but probably only sunday league level :D

I honestly do. There are people from below who would be worth a look at... Paul Tisdale at Exeter has done a magnificant job.

I also think Paul Lambert would apply too.

i like a few shouts given(not holloway) but as we have demanding fans, a big name is a must imo.

He has done a bit better than ok with Salisbury to be fair to him.

Although bit far fetched although not entirely impossible they could be in the same league as us next season....

fans wouldnt give him a chance though & fatbury wouldnt shut up about us signing matt tubbs

on another note, are people dissapointed we've missed out on Martin Allen?

Nope. Although I probably think that because I can't stand the guy.

An old guy on the bus home was.

I'm not.

 Holmes is getting on a bit in management terms for a fella, who's never managed a league club.

 My recall of his Salisbury situation, is that he was basically a businessman who lived locally, Sarum had resigned from the league they were in because they were broke, and he and some others fronted up a rescue package...and as an ex player took on the management....I doubt he's even looking for a job.

i am dv.he's good at what he does

im not cos id rather have Holloway or Calderwood, but like Allen or not he would have the players playing for him

Only a manager who has some kind of pedigree or a swindon old boy will keep the majority of fans happy.

No, i think we had a lucky escape, he is a bottler and walks away from every club after a season or two, not good enough for us!

I think Waddock may do a good job personally, he has done a great job at Aldershot, also Tisdale at Exeter has done well with no money either.

As i mentioned before Richard Money would be great for us in my opinion.

From what I recall there was an admin error that allowed the consortium to get the bid in. Had that admin error not occurred, Salisbury would not be where they are now. Holmes was living abroad pre-Salisbury.

i think martin allen should die

 Dream on...STFC fans are no different from any others...win and you're OK lose and you're a cunt.

 

 

Iffy was well supported as manager despite losing nearly every week!

Yeah, good point... But I think we all knew how that season would pan out. Not that's it's an excuse.

because he was ex-town

I know Curbishley wants a job in the lower leagues as he is fed up of the premierleague, he wants a challenge and wants to be somewhere where he will get full control of the team but i know he would never come here.

How?

Why mention Curbishley for fuck sake???

Jamie Redknapp

i love that guy

 I think the letter of resignation from the league, got chewed up in the Dorcan mail centre or something.

 I know Holmes had business in the States, but he must have some connection to the area being an ex Saint.

i'd love his wife

I only mentioned that he wanted a job in the lower leagues as he is fed up with top flight football.

It's the gutless way we lose reg not because we lose.

yeah im sure hes fed up of premiership wages and wants to get paid league 1 wages, he still has ambitions of being England manager for fuck sake

curbishley

hahahaha

Meh, Roy Evans went from Liverpool to Swindon.

Although it's all quite ridiculous, stranger things have happened.

.... I'm tired.

Why don't we throw Sam Alladyce in the mix as well while we are at it?

As if he would ever come to Swindon, I'm not deluded, just pointing out that he wants a job outside the prem because he is fed up with all the foreign owners running the teams.

I'd love to see Scott Leitch as manager

is he motherwell number 2 at the mo?

I believe so

Hmm ex-swindon player....assitant manager at his home town club though.

had one management job and lasted just over a year with one cup win and one relegation....

 Back in 88/89, playing in the 2nd tier, we had a poor trot, losing 3 in a row, around Nov.


  Lou Macari went missing, for games v Walsall and Shrewsbury, both of whom were hopelessly detached at the bottom of the league....leaving Chic Bates in charge.

 Macari got stick for his absence...because the football was poor...roughly 2500 voted straight away with their feet...we were playing to gates of 5K.

 We scrapped a couple of 1-0 wins...but by the time we played Oldham...and only drew 2-2 a lot wanted Macari out.

 We ended up in the PO's and Lou left at seasons end.

How random :eek:

lawrie sanchez

Good night dv

Christian Roberts for me!

But did we give sloppy goals away,did we have a captain that blamed others around him rather than try to coax them and give them confidence.I know that's not mm's fault,but he's the one who chose Aljofree as captain.Macari did't alienate other player's for mistake's,he may of dropped them for being lazy or being in the pubs,I can't remember him dropping players to often,maybe digby for hammond a few times,but they was never really dropped for mistakes,Loss of form maybe.

he did well at Wycombe and for Northern Island!!

Poor fishing attempt DV, must do better.

 Not that it's relevant to the basic point that if you lose a few games, it doesn't matter who you are some fans will get on your case.
 
  A couple of seasons previously  we had a horror show v Blackpool, and 3 players Kenny Allen, David Cole and Martin Ling, never played for Macari again. Lingy of course came back.

 Macari was always falling out with players...it happens all the time at clubs.

 The great advantage Lou had was that he could get in others....by creative accountancy.

 MM is stuck with what we've got, a paper thin squad.

The worrying thing is he couldt attract players here either,yet cheltenham could which i find odd indeed.Malpas stated he wanted murray we didt get him cheltenham come along a long time after we went for him,next min he's joined them on loan.

Paper thin squad that dont seem to want  to play for him at that,we should have a stronger squad than last season,at a moment we resemble a pub team.

jeez you got some memory so im not going to argue the ling,Allen,cole bit because i cant remember.

maybe Murray thought he might get a game for Bristol City when we went in for him.....now 8 games into the season and havent not played hes after some first team football....

....or it could be Malpas' fault.

Point taken,Murray was just an example,why haven't we gone in for a loan defender,he knows vincent is out for a good while.

I hate to think if we get an injury to another defender. 

i remember that season and lou not being there.i was a ball boy then.
where was lou?the rumours were he was at the races but in hindsight that seems unlikely

Was this the fall out he had with Harry Gregg ?

no.

ok

Wasnt he painting a Bookies?
Not sure where I got that from though.

Cotterill, Holloway, Calderwood, & Ling are the type of names to keep the fans happy.
What about Peter Taylor?

He's at Wycombe doing well.

Didn't to to badly at Stevenage either.
It was Stevenage wasn't it?
He can't be after mega bucks to take both of those jobs on.
Worth a go?

we wont take someone elses manager.

i dont think he'd come here.

plus you know full well he'd bring Junior Lewis with him!

Well there's no question about that!

Wonder how much Hoddle would want...

more that we will be willing to offer.

Phil Parkinson? Assistant at Charlton at the mo.

Shearer and Sheringham with David Batty and Graeme Le Saux as the coaching staff, throw in Tim Sherwood to do some PR and we're laughing.

Seriously, I can't see any appointment making the fans happy, I wouldn't want CC, Cobbs fans all said he was crap and we all know Forest fans want rid, anyone from non-league would be ripe for the chop before their first substitution and anyone else would have failed somewhere else in the last 15 years.

One of the best shouts so far for me is Leitch but again, players won't be aware of him so wont come here, like MM - now Gary Speed would imo be an interesting flutter, certainly wouldn't take less than 100% every game...

I believe since hes been assistant there hes turned down a fair few management jobs. Although nothing official im sure he turned down the Colchester United one last week

Good point, just read that one myself.

Mike Newell?

hmmm because im bored im looking at ex pros who have played in the Premiership done their badges done some coaching but havent entered management yet!

We have a manager but the next one needs to be ala Paul Ince....former player everyone has heard of starting off his managerial career in the lower leagues. He wont stay here long if hes any good....but the sort of name people will be happy with.

So someone like Dean Saunders (current wales number 2) Gary Speed, Teddy Sheringham, Mark Walters(!) or Francis Benali!

Also, according to Wiki Phil Thompson is dead

[edit] Death
He died of 'Scousers Syndrome', where someone gets so deluded and up themselves that their brains ceases to function

In an ideal world, i'd like Lawrie Sanchez, proven he can work wonders with shit! He'll be wanting too much money after his foray at the Cottage though, unfortunately.

In the real world, i'd expect someone like Cotterill, Holloway or Ling

Joe Royle!

Bryan Little????

David Wetherall, should have his UEFA A license by now...coaching at Bradford with his mate Nigel Martyn as goal keeper coach

Holloway for me.

Bart

That's two managers who kept clubs with probably the least resources in the top flight for the best part of a decade, and one who won the fucking thing with a club fresh out of the second division with a playing staff that on paper didn't come close to it's rivals in Man U and Liverpool.

Fuck me I wouldn't want any of them anymore, in the same way that I wouldn't want Lou back, because I think the game's moved on and they haven't, but to just dismiss managers as shit when they've got those sort of records is a bit daft.

[citation needed]

And the list of potential candidates on here makes me wonder whether we might be better off sticking with what we've got.

Cotteril and Holloway FFS. Is that really the limit of our ambitions and imaginations.

And Calderwood and Ling. Jesus! Both are happily installed in other jobs. One at a club where he's spent the best part of a decade as player and manager, and the other at a Championship club with a fanbase twice the size of ours. Obviously both would drop everything just to be associated with Swindon again because both of them are local lads who grew up in the Townend aren't they?

The only name that's been mentioned that makes me think is Reg's suggestion of Gary Waddock. Tidy little midfielder that played the game the right way, is relatively local and has a bit of managerial experience and success with Aldershot. And a former player. I like that idea.

Otherwise we push the boat out and get Glenn and John the 'tache back together. Put them in overall charge of every aspect of the playing side of the club. Give them a decent sized budget for transforming the player development and coaching set up. Allow them too bring people in and make investment in establishing a youth academy. The chance to have complete control of a club in that way might appeal to them and keep them for the longer term.

It would cost but I think that pair might bring a few back through the turnstiles.

wouldn't appointing hoddle, who has been out of the game for years, be a little bit like newcastle appointing keegan? pure sentiment.

i still think penney and davies are the best options. waddock is an interesting shout though.

Calderwood is on borrowed time at Forest... Forest made the mistake in their relegation season of waiting too log to sack their previous manager so they won't make the same mistake again...  However be advised that Calderwood is a defensive manager and so may well give us some wins but they won't be exciting.

As for our current management team Malpas is as organised as they come but for me lacks the visible passion that every visiting manager has shown this season.

 I should also point out that Williams is NOT the defensive coach (maybe he should be as for as much as he was getting on a bit when he was playing he kept the back four in line and they were never as bad as they are at the moment!!), he's the reserve team manager and on the whole they've been performing pretty well as a unit considering no-one actually wants to be playing reserve team football...

Fitton and Watkins were at the game yesterday and they left at the same time as the whole management team which was long after most of you had gone...

George Graham. Is he still alive?

Not really. Keegan's not a good coach, and does little hands on stuff on the training field, and has admitted that tactically he's not really that great when he quit the England job.

Bit early isn't it?! Malpas is still here!

But I'd like Calderwood. If only for my sanity, the fans would actually give him a chance!

I honestly think that the only ways a manager will be accepted here is a) if hes proven at this level or b) an ex town player.

Daish and Kimble won the FA Trophy for Ebbsfleet last season - and would do a fantastic job here ..

they are 5th in conference at mo

I've skipped from page 1 to 10 so sorry if i'm repeating some thing that has already been said...

Notts Forest are bottom of the Champ so Colin Calderwood and Dave Kerskake are on a very sticky wicket.. prob even more so than Malpas.

If they get the boot, I for one would welcome them here as a team capable of uniting the team and supporters.

Again skipping a few pages..
There were two options open to Fitton - a) bring in a proven manager to minimise risk of cocking it up, but knowing that it the manager would be off if successful, not to mention being expensive. b) try an unproven manager in the hope of stability building things slowly over time, with the risk of the man not being able to do it.

I have said it before and I wil say it again, I don't know which the best option is.

If Malpas doesn't succeed then it doesn't mean that ultimately approach b) won't work.  We may find the right man.

Then again, how can Fitton achieve what he wants to if people are 'turned off' going to games as we try and get the right man in (which may take time).

"Unfortunately" we all want success right now, not tomorrow. We don't take a step back and look at the facts that we have league 1 gates, league 1 facilities and probably a league 1 budget. And we are playing in league 1 on merit, and we don't have the resources to buy our way out.

I'm not saying we should stagnate here and be happy with our lot. Just that it takes time to change things, you can't do it overnight. But we don't afford the management the time to do it.

All this of course is irrelevant as to whether MM is the right man to move things on a level.

My opinion is IF we need a new manager at Christmas, I'd prefer an Ollie or Cotterill to another bigger gamble, even though I know it would just be a sticky plaster rather than a long term solution.

hahaha this seems so much like the newcastle situation

How?

Fans not liking a manager from the start and seemingly only pleased if a former player takes over

Then you have a point.

I'm going to have that made up into a T-shirt, and adopt it as our family motto.

Dont be so fucking soft

I would take a chance with Paul Bodin and an experienced No. 2, get rid of all the present senior management team.

Did he manage Bath for a while or did I imagine that? How did he do?

A bit shit

The upheavel to the players would not be dramatic if Bodin came in, the youth would realise they have a chance of gaining first team football, his playing day roots are mostly Swindon Town.
The more I think about it the more I believe he is the right choice, but only if he comes with the team he wants around him, they must get rid of the Bryne, and the other coaches to the first team.

If we're going to have change I think it's got to be proper change. The players clearly need a kick in the arse, appointing from inside would only give them a chance to continue to stagnate.

Agree Ben total managment overhaul, someone hopefully with a bit of authority who is not afraid to crack the whip so to speak.

Bodin's a no for me, did nothing at Bath.  Yesterday he strolls out a few minutes into the game, he couldn't give a fuck.  I'm really disappointed in Bodin recently, actually I'm really disappointed in most of the staff at the CG, they really don't care about the club.  If we score there's no reaction from the youth teamers, from Bodin, from the players sat in the exec area.  I'm not expecting them to go mad about the match, but a reaction would be nice.

That is a fair point and I will have to agree with that, but who else would seriously want to come to Swindon if as I think will happen, Malpas will go and everyone else will be left standing. Experience managers like to bring their team with them.

Agreed.

Excuse me while I moan for a bit.  The recent home performances have been dreadful and make me question why on earth I bother doing a 130 mile round trip to come and watch such crap.  The players seem to totally lack any desire to play and the midfield in non existent.  JPM is a waste of space 99% of the time. 
Wasn't happy about Malpas taking over in the first place, who the hell is he was my first thought.  But I thought give the guy a chance, just because he's not well known won't make him a useless manager.  However I am out of patience now, he seems to be lacking in ideas, contacts and doesn't seem to be able to motivate the players. The coaching staff around him don't seem much better.  If we let this go on too long then we will be in a relegation fight this season.

What about John Gregory for next manager???

Isnt he at Derby as assistant?

You made some good points.

However you completely fucked up at the end. John Gregory? FFS!!

i don't think we should appoint a manager with less experience than malpas, so that rules out people like bodin.

whoever it is needs to have recent management experience in england (perhaps jockland at a stretch) with some sort of decent track record. they will also need to identify the backroom staff they want to work with and bring them in ASAP.

i've got faith that when fitton decides to act, he will do so swiftly

The problem is that any manager out of work will have failed in their last job.

The mongish minority will pick up on this.

We'd be better off with a high profile ex player who is taking his first steps into management, or an ex Town player.

I'd go with Ling. Done ok at Orient on limited resources.

Ling's a no for me, he hasn't done that well at Brisbane Road, his form second half of last season was was then MM's.  He also had a fair amount of money whilst in L2 and took ages to get them up.

Out of the people who are available I'd go for Holloway, just becase he's a half decent manager, and he's funny.  That'll do me, could careless if he's a gash head.

I've decided I want Francis Benali in charge because he had an ace 'tache....

sheringham!

no to ling, nijholt and holloway.

So all we've done is shown that it's going to be very hard to appoint someone that will unite the fans.

I wouldn't want Holloway, or Niholt, or Bodin. DV makes a good point though, Benali did have an ace tache.......

go down the route that has brought us success in the past.an ex top player on the first rung of the managerial ladder.

Beckham.

I am sure that Vicky would love to go shopping at the outlet village with JFW.

Poach calderwood

He's not even our manager but cunts like you want to throw him in boiling water!

Unbelievable..............

Scramble Ling

Great idea - we could be bessies

best thing for him

Billy Davies?
Geraint Williams?

I dont know, im not going to woory about it until the useless cunt goes.

I forgot to mention Ben the fashion Guru.

no expirence = fail.

Our fans want proven track record.

well they should remember our history a bit then dv.

where have they said that Dv? this fan bashing is getting as bad as the so called Malpas bashing

Dave Mitchell

On just about every thread going.

Almost everyone has said Malpas was a mistake because he had no expirence and the large majoirty have mentioned Cotterill, Ling & Calderwood....

you fucking mentalist

Fatbury is the most deluded person on here.

He thought Arsenal would beat Hull too..........

I just can just see it now - pics in Heat magazine of Ben linked arms with me and Posh spilling out of Newlook at the top of town soapy tit wank

I've got a great tache too, doesn't make me management material... Does it??

It would definitely get you an interview.........

Least we'd all be able to hear the instructions shouted from the Bench.

I wouldnt want a Brown kit though,you can paint your office Brown if you like.

Erm you have a thing about Brown dont you or did i imagine that?

Well, the players would certainly be able to hear your instructions....

Of course my suggest of Francis Benali although only semi serious was more based on the fact he's one of those old fashioned cult hero footballers who has some coaching expirence at Southampton and isnt short of a bob or two either....but he did used to have an ace tache

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/d/derby_county/7642034.stm

Player manager. big name.

What more could the thisis crowd want?

 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

You are safe, a Brown kit would be "too good" for league 1.

Had a bit of a brown t-shirt fetish for a while - gone off t's big time these days mind - shoes and trainers must still be brown or at least contain brown.  The office wouldn't be brown either I don't suppose although the players could say they're in the shit when called to the office if it were, suppose that might work...

That's my USP, certainly - the tache is just really cool incidental bonus. is there a tache smiley? :tache:

a bullet in the head?

oh, want not need...

i'm going to make up some rumours about sheringham

I spent the majority of last Wednesday going from pub-to-pub saying quite loudly that Ady Boothroyd was set to become Newcastle manager.

It was fun.

John Still would be my surprise choice or perhaps Gary Waddock.

David Duke player manager would solve our Left Back problem

Don't worry, he will.

I was trawling through this thread wondering if anyone would come up with him - ledge.

No to: Holloway, Ling, Bodin, Cotterill. But i can't offer an alternative as they would either be a sentimental appointment or too optimistic. We can't have optimists as town fans now can we?!

I would go for one of these Parkinson, Tisdale, Money, Waddock, Inglethorpe.

i thought you said mooney for a second, my eyes nearly imploded

None of those names would stand a chance, not with our current mentalilty within some of the fans.

See i dont mind managers using us as a stepping stone 9 times out of 10 that means they have done something right say we got a young ambitious manager who takes ur up i would like to think at long last we have a board who may just match his ambition

I would like to see a young up and coming, you look at people like Roy Keane, Zola (ok, he's only had about 2 games) Darren Ferguson, Roberto Di Matteo, they are doing well so perhaps we should look at a pro who is either close to retirment or who has retured and got his coaching badges, yes we'd be used as a stepping stone but if we got sucess that it would pay off.

Sheringham, Speed, G Neville, Brian McClair, Dean Saunders etc etc

or we go down the tried and tested route

Newell, Parkinson, Cotterill, Curbishley etc

I'd like to see a young manager who has played at the highest level and will have contacts within the game and who will being in an expereinced No 2 to help him.

Scott Leitch....

I think we should have a black manager for what its worth

I thought long and hard about this when I couldnt sleep last night and although I think there is very little, if any chance of it happening. I think the best manager for Swindon Town would be...

...Paul Trollope.

In his 3 full seasons in charge of Bristol Rovers he has improved their final league position. 12th in League Two, 6th in League Two and 16th in League One.

He has done well there, I think if we did go down this route we'd have to bring Lennie Lawrence in as well to be Director of Football as it works at Rovers. I know they obviously dont get as much media attention as Spurs and Newcastle but you never heard about Lawrence signing players Trollope doesnt want or the two falling out.

Only a little thing but watching the Rover/P'boro goalfest Lawrence was even sat in the dug out talking to Trollope. Not many DoFs do that.

Also, the fans might take to him because hes an ex-player in the loosest sense. He played 0 games here but he will be taken to, or at least given a chance because of his surename. John Trollope is a Swindon legend, no doubt about it.

Paul Trollope will be given time and a chance here by the fans on surename value but he isnt a proper Swindon legend himself like Ling or Calderwood who could potentially be put off coming here and ruining their legend status.

I also like the fact that he signs a few decent players and gets them to stay, didnt Rickie Lambert sign a new contract a few weeks back, he could easily do better than Rovers but he wants to stay there

Of course it wont happen because we dont take other peoples managers and he probably wouldnt want to come to Swindon and neither would Lawrence.

I will even over look the fact that Paul Trollope is fatburys mate!

Proven track record, proven progression each season, good coaching/off field set up, enough of a name to keep the fans happy.

Dion Dublin wouldn't be a bad shout. Loads of contacts - seems to know what he's talking about. His old man's Showaddtwaddy past should not be held against him.

That is a very good shout Dv

bollocks to trollope.

Agree with what DRS said, lets just get someone we can be fairly confident will do the business and worry about them fucking off to bigger and better things at a later date shall we?  At least we might have won a few games or even kept a clean sheet in the meantime.

Another thought might be combining that with getting the younger ex-top pro type as the assistant and grroming him to take over when the manager fucks off somewhere else after leading us into the champions league within 3 seasons

I too have thought about Paul Trollope. Not recently mind, but did when we were looking for a replacement when Sturrock left.

I very much like his style of play, he likes his teams to get it down and play good honest football. I also think they way he comes across in his interviews show he's a good man manager. And as DV said, he works very well with Lawrence in the DofF role.

calderwood will get sacked and fitton will move for him

And you think we can afford him and that he would move out of the CCC.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...................sentiments a wonderful thing.

DV's is probably the best shout in this whole thread

Calderwood would pacify the mongs I think.

Personally I dont think his record is that great, he 's got both Northampton and forest up a divison but outspent virtually all their competitors to do so and in both cases wasnt really that convincing.

Don't really think another CCC team would come in for CC, if he were to be sacked.

Like others I'm not 100% convinced he's the right man for the job either.  Not keen on Trollope/Lawrence either. 

Yeah that's what we need, a manager that just about scraped promotion out of League 1 and is failing in the CCC at a club with the resources of Forest, and that hasn't been popular with the fans at the previous he's managed due to his negative style of play.

And as soon as he does so badly that he's sacked he could be ours! I can hardly wait.

I would pick Paul Tisdale over Paul Trollope.

Tisdale started at Team Bath where he achieved several promotions and a good FA Cup.

He then moved to the Conference with Exeter City... Previous boss Alex Inglethorpe had been popular, achieved the Man Utd 0-0 draw and I remember that Tisdale was greeted with the usual but in this case more understandable "who?" -

Tisdale's football playing career was not impressive (unlike Malpas). I believe Shaun Taylor and Jimmy Quinn were the two other strong candidates.

In his first season Tisdale adding valuable experience in Rob Edwards (who was too good for Conference even at his age) and they were playing some very tidy football, certainly amongst the best in the division. They knocked pOx out of the Play-Offs and lost at Wembley to Chris Blackburn and his Morecambe chums.

In his second season he made Exeter a hard team to beat, perhaps too many draws but Exeter lost only 7 times (the same as Aldershot) and got promoted at Wembley in a performance that was no better than the year before, but it was good enough against Cambridge.

He is very good at making money on players for example Jamie Mackie (£145,000) and moreso George Friend (£350,000) - more impressive is his ability to replace them with lesser known talents on the cheap.... Ryan Harley was brought in from Weston-super-Mare to replace the popular Mackie and has stepped up admirably.

I doubt he'd be welcomed with a warm embrace of the Swindon faithful, but I strongly believe he would do the business at a football club like Swindon and alongside a chairman like Andrew Fitton.

Oh and he has been known to wear a cravat!

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Soon a pipe and smoking jacket?

Sounds pretty similiar to Paul Trollope but without the Swindon connection.

Good track record by all accounts, continued improvement. As you said I cant help but think it will another case of 'who' if he were appointed.

anyone who wears a cravat is good with me!

I nearly suggested him yesterday.

think anybody is better then the crap we have here now  :nod:

I just think there are only two things missing from Paul Tisdale to make him a top candidate in the eyes of the STFC fan majority

1) His lack of celebrity
2) He never played for Swindon

He's got a managerial career that has progressed more-or-less constantly, he's shrewd in the transfer market while being no mug when letting his players leave. He's worked with a shoe-string budget.... and perhaps more importantly doesn't produce dull, unattractive football (not a dig at MM because I've seen some lovely STFC moves in his time here).

He'd be my top choice if this fantasy thread turned into reality.

Would he be able to attract decent signings or would it be a case of trying to unearth some unknown gems?  As that didn't work for Gillingham when they appointed a non-league manager.

He sounds like the right type candidate,one problem tho i doubt our board have ever heard of him,so the chances of this turning to reality would be slim.

He's no longer a non-league manager!

I think it would be a case of gems. Might be worth looking through  Exeter's signings. I'm not sure.

I know he's not a non league manager anymore Ben, was just making the point that when Gillingham appointed their manager much was made that he was up and coming manager of the future, great potential etc. and look what happened there. 

This fella may not be non-league but he's never had the experience of managing in the third tier of the english league (or higher).  Would Fitton want to gamble on a bloke like that, when he's plan is Championship footie in 2 and a bit years?

I think both. But many of the L1 teams that flourish don't have a team of superstars... They tend to be a driven team with a blend of youth and experience... and a quality goalscorer... that's why I feel we're not to far away from this. (under the right management)

Tisdale convinced Rob Edwards to move from Blackpool to Exeter when, without doubt he could have found a L1 or L2 club. Perhaps sensible thinking from Edwards to prolong his career but it was a era-changing move as he stayed fit, moved to midfield on occasions and also scored their goal at Wembley. He's not a superstar name I grant you but in the lower-leagues that's an impressive name.

Edwards is player-coach now and would probably take over if and when Tisdale moves on.

They've got OAP Marcus Stewart now, although he's not the goal scorer he used to be he adds valuable experience.

Mark Stimson is different... He managed the Grays Athletic gravy train (Kightly, Eastwood et al) to success and although winning the FA Trophy at Stevenage never looked like turning them into a league side.

He tried doing what Darren Ferguson did at Peterborough and fill his team with Conference players... The difference being Ferguson was bringing in genuinely good players who were going to make it in the league eventually. However, Stimson was bringing in his Stevenage defence of Fuller, Nutter and Lewis who were midtable Conference at best along with other Conference players and Football League rejects that are not up to the grade.

Good points well made Rich, good to see a well thought out argument!  (not meaning to sound patronising there - think I may have failed in my objective).  Hmmn food for thought!

same could be said for Lee Sinnot at Port Vale.....

I have no doubt that if Fitton thought he was the right man for the job he'd apoint him. Its whether he is taken to by the fans...

Lee Sinnott was never Football League standard... Like Nick Holmes, he did a brilliant job moving a minor Non-League team forward but he was struggling to keep Farsley Celtic in the Conference when he got the Port Vale job.

Don't get me wrong, Sinnott would've been a fool to turn it down but it's down to the board to make the right decisions.

Port Vale's chairman has said he wants to sell up at Vale Park now after taking Port Vale as far as he could.

Fair play you know your non league rich dont you

Brought up that way I'm afraid :) Non-League is great fun, but I never want to see Swindon there.

Nah fair play. I suppose i am ignorant to it like prem fans to us

Ling's also made Orient better each year. Don't think he or Trollope would be the right choice. Calderwood no way.

Why not calderwood si?

There was a nice little article about Lingy in the Londonpaper today. They seem to think he's going to Colchester though.

When his team's are on form they are shit hot, but Forest have lost there way twice when they should have easily gone up.

And he's Scottish. I think we need to wash our hands of our Scottish manager connections for the time being.

Why not Trollope then Si?

Can't believe we've got this far into the thread without anyone mentioning Sam Parkin.

 Just read that, his record's interesting for those saying he should take over: Won 93; Drawn 79; Lost 93. Not too impressive when put on paper.

Parkins injured again btw

It is when it's Leyton Orient in the 3rd tier ;)

Wouldn't matter a jot to the adver posters, anything less than w266 d0 l0 would be unacceptable.

That's why there hasn't been a "why don't we sign him" message in a good while, plus in hadn't scored for 2 or 3 games prior his back injury.

He's not been amazing and I think he's mostly been suggested for the semi-sentimental links to the club.

I see "Clueless" (Calderwood) is getting another slating for the trickies today.  I don't think I'd want CC to come back at this time, or Ling, or Trollope (as I've said previously).  The problem is I'm not sure who I'd want.

Erm, forgive me if this has already been covered but haven't Wovers had a worse start than we have?

Yep and after thinking last night the cannot defend for the life of them

As much as we might all want pretty football I think the no. 1 priority for the new manager is the ability to organise a defensive unit.

If we dont stop conceeding goals we will be in trouble regardless of the name of the manager

why link people who have played here all the time? lings doing fuck all at orient for fucks sake.rovers are shit.calderwood is struggling.
i dont like the ex player route at all

Thats all well and good but we have to be realistic we arent going to attract a brilliant manager. We literally have to take a punt on someone who has failed else where and hope he comes up trumps.

Wise only came here because of the Bill Power links and we were lucky to get Sturrock, right place right time....not many people have as good a manager record as Sturrock. Apart from a very brief spell at Southampton he's done well every where he has gone.

Joe Kinnear will be looking for a job in a few weeks.

 realisticly we aint going to pay compo for a manager either(those ex town players, i wouldn't take for free, let alone pay off their existing club). we have had some good uns in the past so why not again in the future?

We might as well put this thread to bed at the moment.

Resurrect it in a few weeks if needed.......

But by posting in it you're only keeping it at the top of the forum.

Oh shit. Now I've done it.

You're Ben. Apologies.

Should be quite cheap at £100,000 a week as well.

Every club Sturrock's been at have been higher when's he's left than when he's joined them (including Southampton).  I think Plymouth were 4th when he went there...so he could struggle this time.

Keeping Plymouth in the Championship is still pretty good going considering where they were originally when he took over.

Plymouth fans still see safety as their target.

Infact, Plymouth finished 10th last season so will do well to stay up because teams who finish 10th in the Championship go down the following season.

Well yeah, that was part of my point. Take out Lambert and I think they could be in a bit of a struggle this year.

Do you think we could persuade Dario Gradi that he needs to come out of semi-retirement for a new challenge?

Me neither to be honest.

what 30+ years at another club? doubt he'd make it.

The ever reliable sun is reporting today that allardyce is to replace calderwood

Jan Aage Fjortoft, as per my other thread (sorry didn't notice this one) gets my vote, would be brilliant, entertaining, funny, etc.  Let the good times roll.

its 18 pages fucking long !

you blind twat !

 ;)

Ha ha, for the record I'm short sighted, but I should have stumbled across this one before now (i might have even done so without remembering).

Luc Nijholt is out of work. His old club Telstar have slumped to 18th/20 since he left.

Would likely play attractrive, passing football (which seems to be much more effective these days), could sign up some decent Dutch players. Swansea's current Dutch star Ferre Bodde only cost £50k from Den Haag. Would be even better if he were allowed to bring in an all Dutch coaching team with him. Have us passing it about at all levels.

Possibly some better options, but do those better options actually want the job? We know Luc does.

that would be a disater

Why?

e's are good he's colin calderwood 8)

I don't think I've ever heard the shamen sung at football.

Cotterill or Holloway for me.....or a player manager washed up Premiership name...we seem to have done welll in the past with that policy.

We said the same thing about Malpas attracting young Scottish players.

E's are good, E's are good, He's Colin Calderwood. Haha. I could see that being bounced about a few terraces.

I'm yet to see Love, Sex or Intelligence on the terraces :D