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Sounds like the welsh wizard won't be playing at the oval,he's having to go in an oxygen tent twice a day. :( I think he would be a real loss for us,he's been fantastic.
Slightly better news is Punters constant bitching,the aussies call us whingers,but their captain is whinging for his country at the moment and its hilarious. :soapy tit wank: I think he needs to start worring about something else,like his teams batting and not our use of subs,its a bit rich all this moaning about the spirt of the game,when for years the aussies have been sledging like dirty thick fuckers.

They dont like it up em', the sub was used inside the regulations so i dont know what that cunt Ponting is on about!. :evil:

Ponting is a twat. Full stop!  Its about time!

Tremlett or Collingwood  seem to be most likely to be the replacement. I'm not all that keen on having Tremlett into the side for his debut, in the last ashes test. Has Collingwood played in a test before? He's got 900+ runs this year and a decent bowling average, so would probably be my choice.

Other than that, who else is there? Caddick is past it, Gough's retired...

Nope he hasnt but id sooner have him than Tremlett just becuase he can bowl and bat and he wont drop much. :D

Get Caddick in as a one of Test appearance - he's got experience and is still capable of taking wickets.

 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:
I think gough coming in would be more likely than caddick. :)
Collingwood is the bloke who should get the nod,he can bowl well and bat well too,giving tremlett his test debut against the aussies in a deciding test match could backfire.

I'd pick Collingwood. A perfectly adequate bowler who can also bat.

I'd go for Collingwood as well, he's a pretty good fielder isn't he?

He's  probably the best in the England side.
Maybe we should use him as a sub? :)

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Why the fuck would you pick Collingwood? He'd be a specialist fielder at Test level.

The extra bounce at The Oval would help Tremlett.

sorry that we're not all cricketing god's, boeta.

I only wish I could possibly have a mere quarter of your knowledge of cricket.

But Tremlett is shite! Every ball bounces off his toes!

I wonder if Goughie has one last test in him?   Not really looked to see how he's been going with Essex or even if he's fit, but he's the probably the best bowler of reverse swing we've got, which seems to have troubled the Aussies.

Would he be persuaded to come out of retirement for one final, crucial Ashes test?!

Collingwood for me. Sures up our batting. After all we do only have to draw this test!!!!!!!!!!!!!

C'mon!

 Draws in tests are as rare as dragon's eggs though, unless the weather intervenes....and at the moment its a feel of Indian summer.

 So though Collingwood wouldn't let anybody down.....if Joes doesn't make it , then it should be another out and out bowler.

Oh come on sonic, we all know I was looking for someone to tell me that Collingwood is merely more than a bits and pieces all-rounder and provoke an argument. Actually I think the bloke is quality. But I wouldn't pick him, not now anyway. It would be a negative mood, and why would we start being negative when it's been positive selections that has got us into this position.


Gough didn't look to have it at all in the ODI series. I don't think he got any wickets at all with the new ball but all of them when the tail-enders were slogging at the death.

It was orthodox swing that troubled the Aussies at Trent Bridge though.

The bowlers who get the most out of The Oval are those who are tall and get bounce. Therefore pick Tremlett. He's not in Jones' league admittedly.

 You don't get orthodox swing at The Oval....although fuck knows what you get in early September.....this reminds me of the 72 series when we went to the Oval 2-1 up and lost....although we held the Ashes so it didn't matter....that  Test was about the second week of August..

 I saw Tremlett bowling for Ampshire in the Cand G semi.....didn't look too clever, but it should be horses for courses.

 I had high hopes of Alex Tudor, but he fell off the radar.

"You don't get orthodox swing at The Oval"

Yeah I know, I was replying to your message that implied that it has just been reverse swing troubling the Aussies.

Have him, Sonic.

Fight Fight Fight

How about Eddie Lewis?
Not seen much of him but got picked for the one day side!

Why would we want to pick a Yank who plays left wing??!  :wink:

If this Test was at Trent Bridge I'd have gone for Jon Lewis because it helps swing there, but The Oval helps tall bowlers who get extra bounce so it's got to be Tremlett.

http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/engvaus/content/story/218069.html

Collingwood and Anderson in the provisional 13 along with Jones, by all accounts, it sounds like Jimmy would be the automatic replacement for the Welsh Wizard. Strange, seeing as no-one suggested him in this thread :|

Imo, Anderson has been disappointing for England, and i think he might struggle if he were to play the 5th test. Indications are that Jones will be back though.....*crosses fingers*

I agree,jimmy coming in is a gamble, i don't think he's been playing too well for his county,although he is still has a contract,so i guess its not that much of a shock.Tremlett has been a bit unlucky,being the drinks man for all of the last tests ,then getting dropped,the poor sod.

TBH i wasn't that surprised at the selection. Anderson has picked up 51 wickets for lancashire this season and he has more experience than tremlett. who could forget when he burst onto the scene against the aussies and took wickets?

I heard that the selectors were considering calling up Gough or Caddick, can anyone confirm that? I'd have thought their experience would be a bonus, Anderson seems like a bit of gamble

but I don't know much!

It's got to be Calderwood, strong in defence and a good captain.

I'm sure Caddick was mentioned and perhaps even Gough. I heard Cork was pretty close to selection.

We're fucked if Joner ain't fit in my opinion.

ahhh that was the other name I couldn't remember, Dominic Cork - I loved him as a wee lad :D

I was at the match where he took a hat trick for England against the Windies!  :D What a legend!

Wouldn't agree that we're fucked if Si Jones isn't fit, just means that the rest of the bowlers will have to step it up a notch. Remember, its looking like Glenn Mac is out, and the Aussies will be screwed if he ain't fit!

Mcgrath has said he's going to play,but it could all be a mind fuck. i'm still not convinced that the convicts are dead and buried yet,especially if they win the toss,their batsmen are due runs,and where better than the feather-bed surface at the oval?I wonder if macgill will play as well,although the essex batsmen smashed him around over the weekend,he is still a good bowler and could do a job for the fuckers.

Jones is out.. :(

Bugger!  Just wonder who they will choose to replace now.

James Anderson

Is that speculation Reg, or has that been announced?

You think they will go with him?

Well its Anderson or Collingwood, and the stated aim is to carry on being aggressive....presumably Collingwood might be seen as being defensive.

Nuts!

Its a batting pitch though, so would have thought they would go for the extra batsman (who can also bowl a bit) rather than a specialist bowler?

 That's exactly why you need the extra bowler....you can't play to draw in modern test cricket and to win you need 5 bowlers, unless you've a Warne,

Quite right Reg, we need someone who can be relied upon to bowl a large number of overs, and take a few wickets, otherwise a part time bowler would get twatted about.

I think Jimmy will play but he worries me though,he could get twatted about too and then we'd have to play with our 3 main bowlers anyway,at least colly can play well  in other ways.
A hell of a lot depends on the toss whoever we play.

Yeah i agree.  We should keep a proper 4-pronged attack and really go for it.

I'd go for Collingwood. Vaughan can be the fifth bowler as he's better than Anderson at the minute.

i think anderson will surprise a few people if he plays. its a risk though. i would go for collingwood on form and for more batting strength. i suppose it all depends on how the pitch plays.

Id go for Collingwood as he's the safest option, Anderson can be a bit wayward at times which is what we dont need.