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« Reply #13020 on: Monday, November 13, 2023, 09:34:23 »

He hasnt been knighter though has he? Mental

Don't have to be, you can go straight in at Lord Tanswell of Tansmedia. There's no need to serve time as an MBE or whatever.
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« Reply #13021 on: Monday, November 13, 2023, 09:42:48 »

Braverman was the latest personification of the shift of the Tory Party from the patriotic to the nationalistic.  Ironically, after what she labelled as "hate marchers", to a party of hate.  

That element never held so much influence in the so called "broad church" of the Tory Party.  She and her rump of supporters have made the Party unpalatable to the election-deciding, moderate electorate - in an uncanny parallel to the Corbynista wing of the Labour Party.

It will be interesting to see which way the Tories go after the inevitable election defeat.  It may be that like Labour, post Blair-Brown, they lurch further away from the centre ground.  Hopefully with the same lack of success.  A party fixated on the economy, lower taxes and committed to the actual delivery of public services in the interests of the public rather than personal enrichment would widen their appeal and electability.  

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« Reply #13022 on: Monday, November 13, 2023, 09:49:46 »

Don't have to be, you can go straight in at Lord Tanswell of Tansmedia. There's no need to serve time as an MBE or whatever.

Mind blown!
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« Reply #13023 on: Monday, November 13, 2023, 09:53:27 »

And er, David Cameron coming back. It's very EastEnders Christmas special bringing back a character from years ago, isn't it?

Cameron going into no.10 was very Gazza, 4 pack, chicken and fishing rod wasn't it.

How can this happen? He’s not a serving MP?

James Cleverly to be Home Secretary. Christ.

As others have noted they would have to elevate him to the Lords (and I assume they would need a pretty heavy hitting deputy still sitting in the Commons), several issues remain, a) its not very 'taking back control' to have a senior member of government beyond commons scrutiny and secondly would he even get approval from the HOLAC to go into the Lords after the Greensill scandal?

Remind me how many MP's Sunak has (350+ isn't it) and he apparently doesn't think any of them are good enough to be FS?

He hasnt been knighter though has he? Mental

That really young lass who entirely coincidentally looks a lot like Johnson got into the Lords off the back of a few months maternity cover in no.10 remember.
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« Reply #13024 on: Monday, November 13, 2023, 09:53:53 »

Braverman was the latest personification of the shift of the Tory Party from the patriotic to the nationalistic.  Ironically, after what she labelled as "hate marchers", to a party of hate.  

That element never held so much influence in the so called "broad church" of the Tory Party.  She and her rump of supporters have made the Party unpalatable to the election-deciding, moderate electorate - in an uncanny parallel to the Corbynista wing of the Labour Party.

It will be interesting to see which way the Tories go after the inevitable election defeat.  It may be that like Labour, post Blair-Brown, they lurch further away from the centre ground.  Hopefully with the same lack of success.  A party fixated on the economy, lower taxes and committed to the actual delivery of public services in the interests of the public rather than personal enrichment would widen their appeal and electability.  


Politics is sending people to the extremes. You’ve got the right wing in France - le Pen et al - now protesting against anti semitism. Jew hating was always a right wing thing, now it’s a left wing thing. When it comes to the next election who can put their hand on their heart and vote for any of the fuckers.
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« Reply #13025 on: Monday, November 13, 2023, 09:55:39 »

The most dangerous person to ever hold office, until the next one

Who we going with instead?

Incitement is a crime - she should be doing time.
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« Reply #13026 on: Monday, November 13, 2023, 09:58:48 »

Along with thousands of protesters.
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« Reply #13027 on: Monday, November 13, 2023, 10:04:15 »

Along with thousands of protesters.

Don't disagree, but holding the home secretary to a higher standard than random members of the public doesn't feel particularly controversial.
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« Reply #13028 on: Monday, November 13, 2023, 10:06:15 »

Standards in politics - how quaint!
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« Reply #13029 on: Monday, November 13, 2023, 10:12:18 »

Politics is sending people to the extremes. You’ve got the right wing in France - le Pen et al - now protesting against anti semitism. Jew hating was always a right wing thing, now it’s a left wing thing. When it comes to the next election who can put their hand on their heart and vote for any of the fuckers.

Not really, the extremes on both sides have always been pretty xenophobic (and many in the middle likewise) and that hasn't changed for donkeys years.

As for the whole politicians being as bad as one another, not sure that's entirely correct (I don't agree with our MP on a lot of things mainly relating to religion, however he and his party are unlikely to ever pursue policies to stop feeding kids in schools or take tents off homeless people so he gets a vote over his opponent here), its rather a narrative being peddled by Tory supporters who have little more to fling at Labour apart from culture stuff which despite much of the media's desperate attempts most of the population (thankfully) don't actually think is happening.
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« Reply #13030 on: Monday, November 13, 2023, 12:58:06 »

Cameron. Holy pig fuck. fuck off
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« Reply #13031 on: Monday, November 13, 2023, 13:06:32 »

So we’ve got a PM nobody has voted for and now a Foreign Secretary nobody has voted into government.

It’s pure piss taking. Why bother with elections at all?

All governments are on the same side - and it’s not ours.
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« Reply #13032 on: Monday, November 13, 2023, 13:09:48 »

If you are going to drag someone in off the street, you could have at least given it to Judith Chalmers.
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« Reply #13033 on: Monday, November 13, 2023, 13:12:16 »

Rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic springs to mind.
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Why don't you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don't you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don't you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?
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« Reply #13034 on: Monday, November 13, 2023, 13:18:00 »

Problem us, we’re all going down with the ship!
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