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Title: Attendances this season
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, May 10, 2019, 12:02:02
Well our home average was higher this season than last season despite finishing 4 places lower in the table, probaby bolstered by the final game of the season vs Notts County but still higher none the less.

Town had the 5th highest average in the league of 6,390 (6,380 last season).

Top attendances by average.

Lincoln City               9,005
Franchise    8,223
Notts County             7,357
Tranmere Rovers        6,540
Swindon Town            6,427
Northampton Town     5,100
Mansfield Town          4,897

Some more figures, unashamedly borrowed from onefootballforum.

Average away followings -
(https://www.onefootballforum.co.uk/index.php?attachments/1557396385342-png.10912/)

Quantity of 1,000+ away followings by month -
(https://www.onefootballforum.co.uk/index.php?attachments/1557396451219-png.10914/)

Highest and lowest away following at each club -
(https://www.onefootballforum.co.uk/index.php?attachments/1557396467433-png.10915/)

Home average attendance with net home average attendance (attendance - away fans) -
(https://www.onefootballforum.co.uk/index.php?attachments/1557396481387-png.10916/)

Interesting to see that we were the 5th lowest visited ground for away fans this season with only Exeter, Yeovil, Newport, Grimsby and Colchester having less away fans travelling to them.

All in all another decent season for home and away support considering where we actually finished in the table, with the 5th highest home average and the 7th highest away following.


Title: Re: Attendances this season
Post by: FormerlyPlymRed on Friday, May 10, 2019, 19:26:59
Cheers for that, like to read these sort of stats.

Interesting how we 5th lowest visited ground considering there are a lot worse and ours is relatively close to the town centre.


Title: Re: Attendances this season
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, May 10, 2019, 20:08:21
Interesting how we 5th lowest visited ground considering there are a lot worse and ours is relatively close to the town centre.

Presumably many are put off by the cost...


Title: Re: Attendances this season
Post by: leftside on Friday, May 10, 2019, 21:01:09
How can Mansfield have the largest away following at...Mansfield?


Title: Re: Attendances this season
Post by: suttonred on Friday, May 10, 2019, 22:04:15
Presumably many are put off by the cost...

Utter bollocks comment. You like google. google the facts.


Title: Re: Attendances this season
Post by: 4D on Friday, May 10, 2019, 23:12:33
I predict the novelty factor to wear off at Lincoln over the next couple of seasons


Title: Re: Attendances this season
Post by: sir windon on Saturday, May 11, 2019, 07:54:51
How can Mansfield have the largest away following at...Mansfield?

Well spotted. Who knows what other inaccuracies  could be in there?


Title: Re: Attendances this season
Post by: DiV on Saturday, May 11, 2019, 09:04:05
How can Mansfield have the largest away following at...Mansfield?

Easy.

Short distance to travel


Title: Re: Attendances this season
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, May 11, 2019, 09:19:44
How can Mansfield have the largest away following at...Mansfield?
Ha didn't see that, fuck knows who it was meant to be, probably Notts County or Grimsby then.


Title: Re: Attendances this season
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, May 11, 2019, 09:22:52
Well spotted. Who knows what other inaccuracies  could be in there?
Probably not many the bloke does this every year.

Take it up with him on the original site.

https://www.onefootballforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/league-2-away-support-thread-2018-2019.8/

Utter bollocks comment. You like google. google the facts.
Agreed, our away prices are now in line with most teams, certainly for seating which they get at the County Ground.

Its fucking bollocks that we are dearer than any other team, if we are dearer then its by not more than £1 at most.


Title: Re: Attendances this season
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Saturday, May 11, 2019, 10:36:08
Here's what I paid for away tickets.
These are all advance so some prices might have gone up on the day.

Lincoln City   £22
Morecambe   £17
Exeter      £22
Crawley      £16
Forest Green   £19
Notts County   £20
Colchester           £18
Yeovil      £16
Port Vale           £20
Crewe      £22
Grimsby      £19
Mansfield           £22
Tranmere           £18
Northampton   £22
Macclesfield   £22
Franchise      £22
Newport      £19
Carlisle           £19
Stevenage           £22
Bury              £20
Oldham      £18
Cambridge           £20
Cheltenham   £21


Title: Re: Attendances this season
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, May 11, 2019, 10:41:03
Here's what I paid for away tickets.
These are all advance so some prices might have gone up on the day.

Lincoln City   £22
Morecambe   £17
Exeter      £22
Crawley      £16
Forest Green   £19
Notts County   £20
Colchester           £18
Yeovil      £16
Port Vale           £20
Crewe      £22
Grimsby      £19
Mansfield           £22
Tranmere           £18
Northampton   £22
Macclesfield   £22
Franchise      £22
Newport      £19
Carlisle           £19
Stevenage           £22
Bury              £20
Oldham      £18
Cambridge           £20
Cheltenham   £21

So our £23 is the most expensive albeit not by much....


Title: Re: Attendances this season
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, May 11, 2019, 10:45:59
Can’t see people being put off by a couple of quid - even though that might have been better spent on gruel.

Maybe, being a northern biased league, it was the distance.


Title: Re: Attendances this season
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, May 11, 2019, 10:48:54
Can’t see people being put off by a couple of quid - even though that might have been better spent on gruel.

Maybe, being a northern biased league, it was the distance.

Possibly, however often these things are perception based, our price has been high for a number of years, and the others are now catching up, once you have a reputation it can be hard to shift.


Title: Re: Attendances this season
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, May 11, 2019, 10:51:33
Again, when I decide, or not, to go to an away game the ticket price is the least of my concerns. If you want to go, you go.

Interesting that our attendances didn’t slide at all.


Title: Re: Attendances this season
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, May 11, 2019, 11:02:49
Again, when I decide, or not, to go to an away game the ticket price is the least of my concerns. If you want to go, you go.

Interesting that our attendances didn’t slide at all.

We're all different.... I took exception when Power shifted the age concession at the CG from 60 to 65. Seemed petty to me, most fans who get to 60 may well like me have been going for 50 years, and it seemed a good gesture. 

When you talk to neutral types in Swindon pubs etc they always mention high cost as factor in not going....whether it's valid or not.


Title: Re: Attendances this season
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, May 11, 2019, 11:15:40
Can’t see people being put off by a couple of quid - even though that might have been better spent on gruel.

Maybe, being a northern biased league, it was the distance.
Of course they won't be put off by £1 or £2 they would be idiots to do that, I would also say that Swindon is seated and covered.

Wobbly Bob I expect stood on uncovered terraces a some of those occassions so its not like for like.

Get statistics right first. I purchased a ticket for the seats at Yeovil (which I was too ill to attend in the end) and was charged £25 which is £2 more than we charge for a similar...if much better positioned seat. Crawley charge £22 for away seating, FGR charge £23 for premium seats. They are by no means alone in charging more for seating of away fans.


Title: Re: Attendances this season
Post by: RedRag on Saturday, May 11, 2019, 13:12:01
We had a hint of division about how many travelled to StadMucK on this forum.

Depressingly, I see that StadMucK enjoyed easily the highest average away following - at over 1,000.

Everyone's second-most hated team, centrally situated and/or best equipped ground?

On a personal note, I don't think I go there any more or any less than to any other ground within a 100 mile or so radius which tends to be my limit these days.


Title: Re: Attendances this season
Post by: Panda Paws on Monday, May 13, 2019, 08:26:21
We're all different.... I took exception when Power shifted the age concession at the CG from 60 to 65. Seemed petty to me, most fans who get to 60 may well like me have been going for 50 years, and it seemed a good gesture. 

When you talk to neutral types in Swindon pubs etc they always mention high cost as factor in not going....whether it's valid or not.

Was at a similar time to big reductions in kids tickets? Makes complete sense - your generation has all the cash anyway, and if you've been going 50 years, £3 ain't going to stop you. Use that to subsidize young fans.


Title: Re: Attendances this season
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, May 13, 2019, 08:43:46
Was at a similar time to big reductions in kids tickets? Makes complete sense - your generation has all the cash anyway, and if you've been going 50 years, £3 ain't going to stop you. Use that to subsidize young fans.

Bit of a myth, being peddled by the right, as part of divide and rule agenda.... plenty of older people live in poverty..

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/dec/09/pensioner-poverty-rises-bnefites-freeze

To me it's petty, when you live on a largely fixed income, you have to budget carefully, and sticking up the price of a ticket overnight, isn't going to encourage more people to attend.... which should be the policy


Title: Re: Attendances this season
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, May 13, 2019, 09:29:03
Was at a similar time to big reductions in kids tickets? Makes complete sense - your generation has all the cash anyway, and if you've been going 50 years, £3 ain't going to stop you. Use that to subsidize young fans.

To be fair to Power he probably rightly assumed it would lead to less pedantic moaning people attending....


Title: Re: Attendances this season
Post by: Panda Paws on Monday, May 13, 2019, 09:37:30
Bit of a myth, being peddled by the right, as part of divide and rule agenda.... plenty of older people live in poverty..

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/dec/09/pensioner-poverty-rises-bnefites-freeze

To me it's petty, when you live on a largely fixed income, you have to budget carefully, and sticking up the price of a ticket overnight, isn't going to encourage more people to attend.... which should be the policy

No, the policy should be maximising matchday revenue both in the short term and the long term. Charging old people who can afford it £3 more to subsidize cheaper tickets for kids makes complete sense.

But then, I'd also raise the age of a bus pass to 70 too, so maybe I'm just ageist.


Title: Re: Attendances this season
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, May 13, 2019, 09:56:29
No, the policy should be maximising matchday revenue both in the short term and the long term. Charging old people who can afford it £3 more to subsidize cheaper tickets for kids makes complete sense.

But then, I'd also raise the age of a bus pass to 70 too, so maybe I'm just ageist.

Certainly sounds like it.... Yes, could be a winner, as long as it's well advertised. Charge over 60's extra, so that someone else's kid gets a freebie.... I'm sure te punters will flock in for such a scheme.... perhaps Horlock, who hasn't been to the CG for 15 years could sponsor a waif or stray, as a sort of proxy fan.


Title: Re: Attendances this season
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, May 13, 2019, 10:52:24
Friend of mine has a ST Concession. Reckons it works out at £11.50 per game. Pretty good, I’d say.


Title: Re: Attendances this season
Post by: Red Frog on Monday, May 13, 2019, 13:17:36
To be fair to Power he probably rightly assumed it would lead to less pedantic moaning people attending....

Fewer, no?  ;)


Title: Re: Attendances this season
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Monday, May 13, 2019, 13:53:50
Bit of a myth, being peddled by the right, as part of divide and rule agenda.... plenty of older people live in poverty..

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/dec/09/pensioner-poverty-rises-bnefites-freeze

To me it's petty, when you live on a largely fixed income, you have to budget carefully, and sticking up the price of a ticket overnight, isn't going to encourage more people to attend.... which should be the policy

15.1 million children or working age adults living in poverty in the UK vs 1.4 million pensioners.

https://fullfact.org/economy/poverty-uk-guide-facts-and-figures/


Title: Re: Attendances this season
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, May 13, 2019, 17:05:02
15.1 million children or working age adults living in poverty in the UK vs 1.4 million pensioners.

https://fullfact.org/economy/poverty-uk-guide-facts-and-figures/

Yes, a national disgrace about the kids.... however in the context of the post, this isn't kids v OAP's.  1.4 million OAP's in poverty is still a lot of people...


Title: Re: Attendances this season
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 13, 2019, 17:08:35
Great, now I've got Billy Smart's Circus (Carter USM going round my head). Thanks Reg...

Under funded O.A.P.'s
Turn to life of crime
The great cucumber robberies of 1989
Send 'em down and bang '2m up
In a South London maisonette
Unlicensed and unregistered
It shouldn't happen to a vet


Title: Re: Attendances this season
Post by: donkey on Monday, May 13, 2019, 18:49:07
Fewer, no?  ;)
:D


Title: Re: Attendances this season
Post by: THE FLASH on Monday, May 13, 2019, 20:58:04
Of course they won't be put off by £1 or £2 they would be idiots to do that, I would also say that Swindon is seated and covered.

Wobbly Bob I expect stood on uncovered terraces a some of those occassions so its not like for like.

Get statistics right first. I purchased a ticket for the seats at Yeovil (which I was too ill to attend in the end) and was charged £25 which is £2 more than we charge for a similar...if much better positioned seat. Crawley charge £22 for away seating, FGR charge £23 for premium seats. They are by no means alone in charging more for seating of away fans.

But you do have a choice JJ.... At STFC it's take it or leave it.