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« Reply #4200 on: Tuesday, December 4, 2018, 17:22:50 »

Democracy is alive and well in this developed nation. "The Thick of It" really did get it bang on the head.

Suppose it's not really the first time. It's likely the first time they've been caught.
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« Reply #4201 on: Tuesday, December 4, 2018, 17:29:12 »

There could be a double Lammy (see what I did there) if Grieve's amendment gets passed later...

https://twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/1069934958217781249
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« Reply #4202 on: Tuesday, December 4, 2018, 17:34:58 »

There could be a double Lammy (see what I did there) if Grieve's amendment gets passed later...

https://twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/1069934958217781249

If I read his analysis right, this could effectively give parliament the vote to overrule anything in the agreement, particularly "no deal".

Not only is that sensible, it would drive SRK potty. Win-win
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« Reply #4203 on: Tuesday, December 4, 2018, 17:36:57 »

If we end up remaining, I wonder how much this fiasco has cost.

I voted Leave but not for this horlicks
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« Reply #4204 on: Tuesday, December 4, 2018, 17:39:33 »

I can't see us remaining, sadly.
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« Reply #4205 on: Tuesday, December 4, 2018, 17:46:04 »

There could be a double Lammy (see what I did there) if Grieve's amendment gets passed later...

https://twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/1069934958217781249

And now it has.

Today was the day that hard Brexit was taken off the table.
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« Reply #4206 on: Tuesday, December 4, 2018, 17:48:49 »

I can't see us remaining, sadly.
I can't see us leaving sadly, any type of leaving. Theres enough going on to tackle leave in many directions. The can will be kicked down the road and the EU will screw us over. The only real card we had to play was no deal and we didn't play it and now we can't really. The Tories have spectacularly fucked up time and time again from Cameron asking the EU for fuck all and getting less to Mays current pile of shit.
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« Reply #4207 on: Tuesday, December 4, 2018, 17:49:01 »

@ Ardiles: Thank goodness.
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« Reply #4208 on: Tuesday, December 4, 2018, 17:55:13 »

yay!!! (what am I yaying about?)
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« Reply #4209 on: Tuesday, December 4, 2018, 18:06:52 »

If I read his analysis right, this could effectively give parliament the vote to overrule anything in the agreement, particularly "no deal".

Not only is that sensible, it would drive SRK potty. Win-win
yeah and you'll be happy in living in a country which doesn't respect the will of a majority. Welcome to our new banana republic.
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« Reply #4210 on: Tuesday, December 4, 2018, 18:07:16 »

If we end up remaining, I wonder how much this fiasco has cost.


Billions. Plus a fuck-ton of political clout in Europe (and elsewhere)
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« Reply #4211 on: Tuesday, December 4, 2018, 18:12:03 »

yeah and you'll be happy in living in a country which doesn't respect the will of a majority. Welcome to our new banana republic.

People knew what they were voting for, the Government to implement Brexit. And that's what they are doing. Bit late to complain that the sovereignty you crave is now not doing what you want.

And besides, if Boris, Gove and JRM had any balls after Cameron fucked off it may have been different. But they didn't.

You voted for it, suck it up like the rest of us.
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« Reply #4212 on: Tuesday, December 4, 2018, 18:34:49 »

If I read his analysis right, this could effectively give parliament the vote to overrule anything in the agreement, particularly "no deal".

Not only is that sensible, it would drive SRK potty. Win-win

Here Here!
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« Reply #4213 on: Tuesday, December 4, 2018, 22:41:06 »

The people who believe they are 'winning' at any given point start gloating.

The people who believe they are 'losing' at any given point start whining.

Unfortunately we're all losing all the way through this sorry mess.
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« Reply #4214 on: Wednesday, December 5, 2018, 09:36:46 »

There is an accounting term, opportunity cost, defined as a benefit, profit, or value of something that must be given up to acquire or achieve something else.  It's very apt here.  The opportunity cost of Brexit is collosal, because Brexit has swamped everything else.  When we look back on the late 2010s in a few years from now, we'll see it as a time of stagnation where very many things stood still or were forgotten.  What ever happens next, there is going to be a huge rebuilding job needed at some point.
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