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Title: v Forest
Post by: Johno on Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 13:24:17
so now mostly everyone here as seen the town play...what would be our best line up to face forest?

not to defend myself before this, i have only seen town once since last season so don't know how good nicholau and shakes really are.

Evans

Jenkins Ifil O Hanlon Nicholas
     
Shakes Whalley  Nicholau

Roberts

Fallon Cureton

Subs: Thorpe, Bulman, Collins, Pook, Smith.

Roberts behind the front two, giving him the chance to run at defenders and feed the wings and to pass through to cureton. curo to play off fallon, then shakes and nicholau to spread out when needed to spread the play.
If Jenkins is still injured then bring in Collins and put reeves on the bench.

another question too...where the hell does jack smith play? even from watching him for 90 minutes i don't know where he was playing!  :soapy tit wank:


Title: v Forest
Post by: magicroundabout on Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 13:28:28
i never noticed he was on the pitch i thought he was that bad.

i would like to see Reeves play saturday with O'Hanlon as he was the only player to organise them last night.

Nicholas & Roberts deserve a start again and definitely Nicholau and Shakes as they played well when they came on.

Fallon defo to start but not sure out of Thopre or Cureton i would choose.


Title: v Forest
Post by: Johno on Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 13:29:34
i was going to put reeves in but problem is how long would he last against johnson and dobie?

he could organise, but wouldn't be able to keep up that well.


Title: v Forest
Post by: Spud on Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 13:30:47
Quote from: "Johno"
i was going to put reeves in but problem is how long would he last against johnson and dobie?

he could organise, but wouldn't be able to keep up that well.


You do realise that Johnson has been on the bench for the first 2 games of the season?. :roll:


Title: v Forest
Post by: magicroundabout on Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 13:31:39
saying that he looked fit and trim last night.

would like to give it ago though


Title: v Forest
Post by: Johno on Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 13:32:16
has he?  :oops: ...oh good, i would rate him very hihly in this division. so is up front for forest at the moment?


Title: v Forest
Post by: Spud on Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 13:33:47
Quote from: "Johno"
has he?  :oops: ...oh good, i would rate him very hihly in this division. so is up front for forest at the moment?


Scott Dobie and Gareth Taylor.


Title: v Forest
Post by: walrus on Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 13:34:36
The 3-4-3 looked superb but we can't start with that against Forest or we will be ripped apart.  Expect a high-scoring game seeing as Forest also lost 3-2 last night, although that might be the kiss of death.

Personally I'd play (sticking to a 4-4-2) fitness permitting:

GK:  Rhys Evans
DR:  Patrick Collins
DL:  Jack Smith
DC:  Alan Reeves
DC:  Jerel Ifil
MR:  Ricky Shakes
ML:  Nicholas Nicholau
MC:  Gareth Whalley
MC:  Sean O'Hanlon
FC:  Tony Thorpe
FC:  Rory Fallon

Subs:
Bulman
Jenkins
Pook
Roberts
Cureton

This is making the assumption that Miglioranzi won't be fit for Saturday.  If he is, then I would certainly rush him back into the team.  I feel that Reeves' leadership is what is needed at this stage, and certainly one of him and Jenkins needs to be in the team.  I was quite impressed with Collins last night, contrary to some, and thought he looked good with a ball at his feet.

I would also stick one of O'Hanlon and Jenkins in midfield to toughen it up as Pook is pretty anonymous.  O'Hanlon edges it as I thought he was better in midfield at Bournemouth than Jenkins was at Luton last season in a 4-5-1 system.


Title: v Forest
Post by: janaage on Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 13:35:18
Evans

Collins  -  O'Hanlon  -  Ifil    -   Smith

Shakes  - Whalley  -   Migs/Pook  -  Nicoleu

                Cureton    -    Roberts


Title: v Forest
Post by: fatbury on Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 13:36:12
I would go with

Evans

Collins O'Hanlon Ifil

Shakes Jenkins Wells Whalley

Roberts behind front two

Fallon Cureton


Title: v Forest
Post by: larwood on Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 13:37:20
That seems a very attacking line up to me,the game could finish 3-5 :) If migs is back i  personally would favour 4-4-2 line up,drop cureton and play roberts with fallon.But if migs isn't back maybe jack smith could play centre mid-field :) .I thought smith was a defender so[if he is]its the usual kingy, playing players out of position.


Title: v Forest
Post by: Johno on Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 13:37:58
walrus, in my opinion, im hoping jenkins is fit to play instead of collins, cause i thought he was crap!! so yeh, if anyone out of jenkins and o hanlon i would say o hanlon.

heres a thought, how about roberts in CM? could run forward with the ball, distribue to the wings? have long range shots? and is a tough tackelr? just the fact of him going back and defending...


Title: v Forest
Post by: fatbury on Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 13:46:50
We are seriously lacking in the cental midfield area

we have Pook, Wells, Migz , Whalley (who is more of a wide player - why have we got so many??)

and thats it!

Kingy get onto Fergie ... and get us a year long loan .. United must have a player of some quality there ... get down on bended knees if poss ... we need that midfielder ..

Also go to Sunderland and get Leadbitter on loan! :scribe:


Title: v Forest
Post by: Nils on Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 14:14:00
Evans

Jenkins - Reeves - O'Hanlon

Roberts - Smith - Whalley - Nicolau

Cureton - Fallon - Thorpe

Subs

Collins, Caton, Wells, Pook, Bulman


Title: v Forest
Post by: dogs on Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 14:28:11
Evans
RB Collins
CB Reeves
CB Ifil
LB Nicholas
DMC O'Hanlon
MC Whalley
ML Nicolau
MR Shakes
FC Thorpe
FC Fallon

Bench Roberts, Cureton, Bulman, Pook, Jenkins.


Title: v Forest
Post by: unclemark on Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 14:59:17
Where is Charlie Comyn-Platt?  He is not in any of your squads.


Title: v Forest
Post by: adje on Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 15:03:31
Collins must not play-if Jenks is still out I'd rather see Lapham play RB.
 Evans
 Lapham
 Reeves
 O'Hanlon
 Smith
Shakes
 Migz
 Whalley
 Nicolau
 Fallon
 Roberts
 
subs
 Ifil
 Thorpe
 Cureton
 Pook


Title: v Forest
Post by: Spud on Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 15:29:46
Id also prefer Lapham at right back instead of the muppett weve got from Sheff Weds.


Title: v Forest
Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 15:34:36
Give Collins a chance! He wasn't that bad. Nicholas was worse.


Title: v Forest
Post by: Spud on Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 15:36:59
Quote from: "Ben Wah Balls"
Give Collins a chance! He wasn't that bad. Nicholas was worse.


The only player who stood out for me was Roberts!, Nicho was awful, "go to the fucking ball Nicholas you cunt!" that was me last night. :evil:


Title: v Forest
Post by: Leggett on Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 15:39:12
leavin 15mins before the end, that was you too :P


Title: v Forest
Post by: Spud on Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 15:42:49
Quote from: "Leggett"
leavin 15mins before the end, that was you too :P


Yeah but we didnt get a point so im not that bothered about missing the last 15 mins, ive got STFCWorld so i can see the goals on there. :\/


Title: v Forest
Post by: Leggett on Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 15:44:25
bummer


Title: v Forest
Post by: McLovin on Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 15:45:11
As discussed with DV85 earlier, i'd go for:

Code:

                   Evans

Jenkins    Reeves    O'Hanlon     Smith

                 Whalley

    Shakes                       Nicolau

                 Roberts

          Fallon          Cureton



Title: v Forest
Post by: Leggett on Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 15:46:16
i'd agree with that. we defo need someone for the defence to pass to,the midfield just seemed to be redundant until we got 2 decent wingers on.


Title: v Forest
Post by: adje on Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 15:54:53
Im betting Kingy will not pick both Shakes and Nicolau-stubborn bastard.


Title: v Forest
Post by: Spud on Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 15:55:46
Quote from: "Leggett"
bummer


Dont be hard on yourself LADDY!. 8)


Title: v Forest
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 15:56:38
I've said before that Reeeeeeves is still our best defender, we seem to have an odd collection of players out of which its difficult to find a decent looking side......

 Fallon has to start, Thorpe Cureton doesn't work....but to get in all of Shakes Roberts and Nicholau.....means denuding the central midfield to Whalley...who I'm sure can't be as bad as what he's appearing to be.

 No... King got this lot in...let him sort it out.


Title: v Forest
Post by: adje on Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 16:06:21
Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"
I've said before that Reeeeeeves is still our best defender, we seem to have an odd collection of players out of which its difficult to find a decent looking side......

 Fallon has to start, Thorpe Cureton doesn't work....but to get in all of Shakes Roberts and Nicholau.....means denuding the central midfield to Whalley...who I'm sure can't be as bad as what he's appearing to be.

 No... King got this lot in...let him sort it out.




Well he seems to rate Pook-Im not totally convinced by him,but we are woefully short of options in there without Stef.That was probably King's biggest mistake -not recruiting cover.


Title: v Forest
Post by: unclemark on Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 16:10:41
We should give Comyn-Platt a chance.


Title: v Forest
Post by: BrightonRed on Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 16:28:15
This'll take an absolute roasting but I don't care!
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y98/trebblej82/Image2.jpg
Collins if Jenkins isn't fit.
Roberts / Shakes - Close decision.


Title: v Forest
Post by: yeo on Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 16:30:06
Ifil in the middle :o .I was thinking that last night funnily enough I think he could do the job .


Title: v Forest
Post by: unclemark on Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 16:32:09
Quote from: "BrightonRed"
This'll take an absolute roasting but I don't care!
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y98/trebblej82/Image2.jpg
Collins if Jenkins isn't fit.
Roberts / Shakes - Close decision.

I agree with that, but I would play Roberts and Fallon/Cureton up front with Shakes on the right wing.


Title: v Forest
Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 16:42:55
Playing players out of position. Tut tut.


Title: v Forest
Post by: Spud on Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 16:44:56
Quote from: "Ben Wah Balls"
Playing players out of position. Tut tut.


King would never do a thing like that!  :?


Title: v Forest
Post by: unclemark on Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 16:50:20
I think Ifil should be given a chance in the centre of midfield.


Title: v Forest
Post by: BrightonRed on Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 16:52:48
Quote from: "Ben Wah Balls"
Playing players out of position. Tut tut.


If I learnt one thing last night it was that we desparately need a ball-winner in midfield (Both in the air and on the deck) pretty much at any cost.
It doesn't have to be pretty, just win the ball and get it to Whalley and the wingers!


Title: v Forest
Post by: unclemark on Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 16:54:14
Grant Smith was fairly good at that.


Title: v Forest
Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 17:01:44
Yeah I agree, was only joking, that is why Jenkins was played there which is a perfectly understandable and sensible decision, but some people see it as an easy excuse to slate the manager.


Title: v Forest
Post by: BrightonRed on Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 17:18:55
Quote from: "Ben Wah Balls"
Yeah I agree, was only joking, that is why Jenkins was played there which is a perfectly understandable and sensible decision, but some people see it as an easy excuse to slate the manager.


Ahhh got ya


Title: v Forest
Post by: sonicyouth on Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 17:24:51
Quote from: "Ben Wah Balls"
Yeah I agree, was only joking, that is why Jenkins was played there which is a perfectly understandable and sensible decision, but some people see it as an easy excuse to slate the manager.


King's tried Jenkins in midfield before and it hasn't worked, so why did he have to complicate things at Barnsley by playing a central midfielder out wide and a right back in the centre of midfield?


Title: v Forest
Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 17:36:07
He has also tried Jenkins in midfield before and it did work. The reason for it is the same as playing Ifil there, we need a ball winner in midfield.

http://thetownend.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=477 (note Jenkins Dave's man of the match in midfield).


Title: v Forest
Post by: sonicyouth on Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 17:38:48
Jenkins is far better at right-back than he will ever be in midfield, he's simply not going to make it as a midfielder and we'd be better off sticking him at full back and getting on with it.


Title: v Forest
Post by: FlashGordon on Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 17:56:22
From last night i know he was out of position but Jack Smith was a pile of wank! I thought Nicho wasnt too bad and shud be given another chance. Collins had an indifferent game so not sure bout him yet. Thorpe was crapmbar his goal - does he do any selfless running? Roberts was good and so too were shakes well he was lively n nicolau (sp?!) was useful and shud start on sat.

Would drop thorpe have a front 3 of Fallon Roberts n Cureton prob with cureton jst behind the other 2?


Title: v Forest
Post by: adje on Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 20:44:42
He tried O'Hanlon if I remember rightly-Brentford away.Fish out of water type situation'


Title: v Forest
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 20:48:17
Evans

Jenkins
O'Hanlon
Reeves
Smith

Shakes
Whalley
Miglioranzi
Nicolau

Roberts
Fallon


Title: v Forest
Post by: adje on Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 20:54:46
Well done DV-thats the same line-up I went for.I thought you looked an intelligent sort!


Title: v Forest
Post by: Tails on Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 21:39:52
I'm not sure of dropping Thorpe after he scored, might be a huge confidence boost for him.


Title: v Forest
Post by: Johno on Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 21:42:14
is migs going to be fit?


Title: v Forest
Post by: walrus on Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 22:05:21
Quote from: "Johno"
is migs going to be fit?


Dunno but Cureton is pretty dishy...


Title: v Forest
Post by: Johno on Wednesday, August 10, 2005, 22:07:04
Quote from: "Walrus"
Quote from: "Johno"
is migs going to be fit?


Dunno but Cureton is pretty dishy...


you should hang your head in shame for that one. that was poor mate....

also migs is fit apprantley  :wink:


Title: v Forest
Post by: Spud on Thursday, August 11, 2005, 17:08:15
Forests keeper cleared for Saturday!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/nottm_forest/4142478.stm