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Title: Come on Germany Post by: el duque on Saturday, July 1, 2006, 17:53:47 Now it's left to them... the only decent nation left in the tournament.
As for the argie ref, buck-tooth Ronaldo, Maniche et al. did we really expect anything better from shameless Johnny Foreigner? What a joke. Title: Come on Germany Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Saturday, July 1, 2006, 18:39:17 No decent sides left in it now, it's a case of who do I hate least.
Title: Come on Germany Post by: Simon Pieman on Saturday, July 1, 2006, 19:38:12 I'll support Brazil now. I wanted a different team to win it this time, but out of the teams left, they're the one I don't mind as much.
Title: Come on Germany Post by: Leggett on Sunday, July 2, 2006, 01:39:51 germany, or at a push france. but only so the in-laws are happy...
Title: Come on Germany Post by: Spud on Sunday, July 2, 2006, 02:15:23 Quote from: "Leggett" germany, or at a push france. but only so the in-laws are happy... Out of all them.....i hope Italy win only cos ive got them in the Works WC Sweepstake. Title: Come on Germany Post by: Sade on Sunday, July 2, 2006, 09:06:15 Not brazil again, Big headed twits.
Italy I think. Title: Come on Germany Post by: Ralphy on Sunday, July 2, 2006, 10:18:31 Fuck Portugal, i fucking hate them.
Fuck the cheating Eye-ties. Fuck France. Come on Germany. Title: Come on Germany Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Monday, July 3, 2006, 23:58:02 Fuck em all. Apart from England the only teams I wanted to see do well were Ghana and Australia.
It's a shame looking at the teams left 'cos you've got Germany who've only beaten one decent team in 5 years and that was on penalties, France who looked utter wank in their first couple of games and would have been knocked out in the first round if Switzerland and South Korea had drawn and Italy who've been pretty average as well. If we'd beaten Portugal there was no reason why we couldn't of gone on to win. Title: Come on Germany Post by: McLovin on Tuesday, July 4, 2006, 08:58:07 I'll support the Germans, as i think they've laid on a great tournament for the fans, and i like Klinsmann
Title: Come on Germany Post by: mexico red on Tuesday, July 4, 2006, 09:17:31 im with the germans, they were ace to us lot, gave us a good night out on the saturday.
will never forget group of german lads pissed up at 4am in city centre singing clash songs with adje. :D Title: Come on Germany Post by: quinnismyhero on Tuesday, July 4, 2006, 09:51:58 Germans for me too - two others are slimy Mediterranean/southern Eurpoean arseholes and the remainder are the bloody french - need I say more?
Title: Come on Germany Post by: normy on Tuesday, July 4, 2006, 09:59:31 Germans deserve it for their fitness, discipline, and making the best of limited talent.
Unlike England. :( Title: Come on Germany Post by: Stef Troll on Tuesday, July 4, 2006, 11:09:12 Quote from: "Ben Wah Balls" Fuck em all. Apart from England the only teams I wanted to see do well were Ghana and Australia. It's a shame looking at the teams left 'cos you've got Germany who've only beaten one decent team in 5 years and that was on penalties, France who looked utter wank in their first couple of games and would have been knocked out in the first round if Switzerland and South Korea had drawn and Italy who've been pretty average as well. If we'd beaten Portugal there was no reason why we couldn't of gone on to win. England were piss poor in the world cup, and would have been the worst team remaining in the final 4 if they would have qualified. France would have beaten England comfortably - thats unless England stepped up a few gears Germany have been playing good football, and deserve to be in the semis The Italians have had a lucky draw, but you can only beat whats in front of you. The French started off shit, but unlike England, when the French said they would improve - they did Portugal have played some good football, but lack a decent striker who can clinically finish. I can't see England winning a major international tournament untill they host one of the events Title: Come on Germany Post by: larwood on Tuesday, July 4, 2006, 11:09:22 Italy all the way!
Title: Come on Germany Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Tuesday, July 4, 2006, 11:19:09 Quote from: "StefPol" Quote from: "Ben Wah Balls" Fuck em all. Apart from England the only teams I wanted to see do well were Ghana and Australia. It's a shame looking at the teams left 'cos you've got Germany who've only beaten one decent team in 5 years and that was on penalties, France who looked utter wank in their first couple of games and would have been knocked out in the first round if Switzerland and South Korea had drawn and Italy who've been pretty average as well. If we'd beaten Portugal there was no reason why we couldn't of gone on to win. England were piss poor in the world cup, and would have been the worst team remaining in the final 4 if they would have qualified. France would have beaten England comfortably - thats unless England stepped up a few gears Germany have been playing good football, and deserve to be in the semis The Italians have had a lucky draw, but you can only beat whats in front of you. The French started off shit, but unlike England, when the French said they would improve - they did Portugal have played some good football, but lack a decent striker who can clinically finish. I can't see England winning a major international tournament untill they host one of the events France were much much worse than us in their group games, very very lucky to even get through which we weren't and they weren't that great against Spain. Brazil were playing shite anyway. Had we got through I think we'd have had no problems at all beating France. Italy only scraped through against Australia by cheating. Only Portugal and Germany have actually played well, with Germany it's just home advantage and they're actually pretty shit. Title: Come on Germany Post by: Stef Troll on Tuesday, July 4, 2006, 11:35:19 Quote from: "Ben Wah Balls" Quote from: "StefPol" Quote from: "Ben Wah Balls" Fuck em all. Apart from England the only teams I wanted to see do well were Ghana and Australia. It's a shame looking at the teams left 'cos you've got Germany who've only beaten one decent team in 5 years and that was on penalties, France who looked utter wank in their first couple of games and would have been knocked out in the first round if Switzerland and South Korea had drawn and Italy who've been pretty average as well. If we'd beaten Portugal there was no reason why we couldn't of gone on to win. England were piss poor in the world cup, and would have been the worst team remaining in the final 4 if they would have qualified. France would have beaten England comfortably - thats unless England stepped up a few gears Germany have been playing good football, and deserve to be in the semis The Italians have had a lucky draw, but you can only beat whats in front of you. The French started off shit, but unlike England, when the French said they would improve - they did Portugal have played some good football, but lack a decent striker who can clinically finish. I can't see England winning a major international tournament untill they host one of the events France were much much worse than us in their group games, very very lucky to even get through which we weren't and they weren't that great against Spain. Brazil were playing shite anyway. Had we got through I think we'd have had no problems at all beating France. Italy only scraped through against Australia by cheating. Only Portugal and Germany have actually played well, with Germany it's just home advantage and they're actually pretty shit. France were defintaely much worse then England in the group games. However the difference is, France knew they had to improve, and they did. They stood up to the plate, and improved when they had to. Their big time players like Viera, Henry and Zidane performed at the top stage, unlike Gerrard, Rooney and Lampard. England had probably one of the easiest passages to the quater finals. However like most other tournaments, when England have to play against decent oposition, they lose. I'd much rather face Ecuador and Portugal then Spain and Brazil. As for Germany, well i personally feel they are a decent side. They may not have the household names in international football, but they are both physicially and mentally disciplined. Ask most England fans if they reckon they would have beaten Germany in the final, then i'd imagine that in their hearts of hearts, they'd say no. Title: Come on Germany Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Tuesday, July 4, 2006, 11:50:56 Going on the form in this tournament I would much rather of played Brazil than Portugal. I saw all Brazil's games and they were extremely average - worse than us definitely, they were lucky to get to the quarter finals. Portugal on the other hand had been playing well and beat Holland, another very good side.
The only decent side Germany have beaten in 5 years is Argentina and that was on penalties. I don't think there's a chance they'd have got this far if the tournament wasn't in Germany. Title: Come on Germany Post by: Stef Troll on Tuesday, July 4, 2006, 12:04:10 Quote from: "Ben Wah Balls" Going on the form in this tournament I would much rather of played Brazil than Portugal. I saw all Brazil's games and they were extremely average - worse than us definitely, they were lucky to get to the quarter finals. Portugal on the other hand had been playing well and beat Holland, another very good side. The only decent side Germany have beaten in 5 years is Argentina and that was on penalties. I don't think there's a chance they'd have got this far if the tournament wasn't in Germany. What decent sides have England beaten in the last 5 years (where the games have meant something - and not just a pointless friendly) Probably in 2002 when England beat Argentina ? Title: Come on Germany Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Tuesday, July 4, 2006, 12:09:57 This is including friendlies for Germany though. We've beaten Argentina twice and Germany 5-1.
Title: Come on Germany Post by: Stef Troll on Tuesday, July 4, 2006, 12:18:37 Germany beat England 1-0
Theres no point counting friendlies, as they are pointless. You have to look at the records in major tournaments - in which case, except for euro 2004 the Germans have been far superior in recent times Title: Come on Germany Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Tuesday, July 4, 2006, 12:24:31 Quote from: "StefPol" Germany beat England 1-0 Theres no point counting friendlies, as they are pointless. You have to look at the records in major tournaments - in which case, except for euro 2004 the Germans have been far superior in recent times Not in the last 5 years they didn't. You can't just discount euro 2004 - it is the most recent tournament that Germany haven't hosted and they were shit. Title: Come on Germany Post by: Stef Troll on Tuesday, July 4, 2006, 12:30:21 Germany beat England 1-0 6 years ago then (or in the same qualifying campaign as England beat Germany 5-1)
You cant discount that the Germans got to the world cup final in 2002 as well, and they won euro 1996, and they got further then England in world cup 1998. The Germans are better then England. England may have better players, but as a team, the Krauts are better. In this tournament, they've been the most solid and consistent team in the tournament. Title: Come on Germany Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Tuesday, July 4, 2006, 12:34:42 Nah they're not better than England, not even close. They've been carried along by the crowd so far but they've not been playing amazingly well. Against Sweden and Ecuador they weren't bad. Argentina v Germany was a poor quality game from both sides, England V Portugal was a better game.
Fact is none of the teams left in it are really that good. If we'd played to our potential we really should have won. That's why it's such a shame we didn't. Title: Come on Germany Post by: Stef Troll on Tuesday, July 4, 2006, 12:43:35 Quote from: "Ben Wah Balls" Nah they're not better than England, not even close. They've been carried along by the crowd so far but they've not been playing amazingly well. Against Sweden and Ecuador they weren't bad. Argentina v Germany was a poor quality game from both sides, England V Portugal was a better game. The stats dont lie. England are a quater final team, and untill they proove otherwise, they wont and shouldnt be regognised as one of the best teams in the world. As for Germany being carried through by the crowds - well England have had their fai share of fans in Germany. All games England played must have felt like home games for them. Therefore, Germany being carried along by the crowds doesnt really make sense Title: Come on Germany Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, July 4, 2006, 12:48:18 You can't just keep changing the argument to make your point :D
On paper I think England have been the better team than Germany in the last 5 years. In practice Germany have been better. To say England haven't beaten decent sides in the last 5 years is silly though. Title: Come on Germany Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Tuesday, July 4, 2006, 12:51:53 Quote As for Germany being carried through by the crowds - well England have had their fai share of fans in Germany. All games England played must have felt like home games for them. Therefore, Germany being carried along by the crowds doesnt really make sense Apart from the tournament being in Germany.... :-))( The point is the hosts generally do well in these tournaments. eg. South Korea in 2002, England 1966 and 1996, France in 1998, Italy in 1990, Portugal in 2004 etc, that's why Germany are doing well despite not being that good. England should be recognised as one of the best teams in the world because there aren't many other teams who've managed to get to the quarter finals on so many occasions. France went out in the first round last time, so did Portugal, Germany went out in the first round in Euro 2004, I think Italy did too. England consistently reach the quarter finals, that doesn't show they aren't one of the best teams it shows they are one of the best teams because you have to be good to do that. Title: Come on Germany Post by: Dazzza on Tuesday, July 4, 2006, 13:03:00 Viva La France for me, only really because I tipped them as a good outside bet pre-tournament and to be honest the rest of the sides left I detest them the least.
Cheating Italians to break German hearts is my order of the day. Title: Come on Germany Post by: red macca on Tuesday, July 4, 2006, 21:13:47 cmon you dirty german shits,i have germany at 9/1 to win on pens tonight
Title: Come on Germany Post by: DMR on Tuesday, July 4, 2006, 21:15:26 BWN finally proves he's merely trying to provoke then.
Australia? Whjat the fuck is wrong with you? Title: Come on Germany Post by: red macca on Tuesday, July 4, 2006, 21:27:10 fucking wops :evil: :evil:
Title: Come on Germany Post by: Sussex on Tuesday, July 4, 2006, 21:29:56 Whollop! :o
Title: Come on Germany Post by: yeo on Tuesday, July 4, 2006, 21:33:15 I hate those wop cunts!
Im off into town to lob bricks at the fuckers driving around beeping thier horns.Ok im not but I would if I could be arsed. Title: Come on Germany Post by: stfc_carver on Tuesday, July 4, 2006, 21:34:46 sorry, but when they showed a picture of a german crying i really couldnt help but crack up. their arrogance was startin to annoy me.
jurgun klinnsmann's face = priceless :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: Title: Come on Germany Post by: DiV on Tuesday, July 4, 2006, 21:35:27 now thats how football should be played, cracking passing and attacking game from both teams through out and two really good finishes at the end.
No less than Italy deserved... Title: Come on Germany Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, July 4, 2006, 21:44:29 Forza Azzurri ....couldn't have stomached another German win on pens.
Title: Come on Germany Post by: Bennett on Tuesday, July 4, 2006, 22:36:42 i didn't see the whole match(from 80 mins on).
however i'm sure italy deserved it such a shame germany are out Title: Come on Germany Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Tuesday, July 4, 2006, 22:42:23 hahahahah, Germany are out.
Quote from: "dave_m_russell" BWN finally proves he's merely trying to provoke then. Australia? Whjat the fuck is wrong with you? Difficult to decipher this but are you talking to me Dave. I'm 1/4 Australian. This is football not cricket and I'd rather they did well than Germany, Brazil, France etc. every time. Why not? I like Australia, they have never been rivals of us in football. Title: Come on Germany Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, July 4, 2006, 23:19:58 I tipped Italy to do well and they have proved me right. That means I've probably jinxed them for the final now :o
Title: Come on Germany Post by: Spud on Wednesday, July 5, 2006, 04:48:16 Wooo hooo im guaranteed £175 at work now but if Italy win i net £300. 8)
Title: Come on Germany Post by: larwood on Wednesday, July 5, 2006, 07:30:59 Quote Italy deserved to go through. Yep,they were the better side.It was a great game,i really enjoyed it. And as you say,the ref was good too :) And of course the fact that the Germans went out just made it even better :D Come on Italy :beers: |