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I have just heard a rumour that a colleague has been clocked over a ton on one our lovely motorways. No one is saying who, (no not me I promise), however, the will he, won't he get banned argument is warming up. So anyone shed any light as to the likely out come?

http://www.motordefencelawyers.co.uk/motoring-news/speeding-in-excess-of-100mph-is-disqualfication-inevitable/

Interestingly (or not) my old man and one of my housemates have been clocked at upwards of a ton in the last year and neither got banned - both got 6 points and the old boy got a whopping fine as he'd been done before.

I told you the grape vine is rife (I can't believe I've just found our...) about 1 month ago doing 105. Has currently got between 6-9 points depending on one's source. I'm torn between he's fucked or he'll get away with it. To close to call though I suspect the company will help with legals.

It's amazing he found a motorway that didn't have roadworks or traffic on it.

I guess a line has to be drawn somewhere. If people want to drive at over 100mph then perhaps they should look at doing a track day. I am a car fan but there's no real excuse for driving over 100mph on the roads.

I got done a few weeks ago doing 60 in a 50 zone at one of the average speed camera sections on the M5 near Gloucester.  1.15am, no cars on the road, no workers on the road.  I usually stick to 55 through those so it must have been touch or go..

These are the speeding fines that wind me up.  If you get caught doing 100 you should just bend over and take your punishment.

Although I did get a member of my staff off of a ban once by giving a written statement and appearing in court for him to state that he would lose his job if he got a ban.  The judge gave him a much higher fine and allowed him to keep his licence based on my statement.  Wouldn't happen every time though.

I would argue that 100 on an empty motorway is equally acceptable to 60 on an empty 50...

I don't understand anyone who does over 50 in road works, it's pretty much saying fuck the workers and their safety, my meeting is more important. Same goes with the speed restrictions on the M25, if everyone observed them instead of thinking its still ok to do 80, the traffic wouldn't bunch up so regularly and the traffic would move faster overall.

100mph plus OR twice the speed limit on slower roads is an automatic report for summons (no Fixed Penalty Ticket option) as those criteria are disqualification ammunition.

I've done that plenty of times through average speed checks and never been done, but having passed through that same section yesterday (and the miles and miles of 50mph limit around the M5/M6 interchange with fuck all work happening) I'm going to wait for the inevitable letter now :(

 :cry:  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-32951619

Unfortunately Gloucestershire police are one of the strict forces and enforcing these average speed checks.  I know I went through there at 55, but might have entered the zone faster and therefore pushed it up to the 60.  Either way, no point in arguing the toss.

Unless there is workforce actively in the road, I think there should be a certain level of leniency at certain times unless driving with undue care and attention.
 

If there is a ten mile stretch restricted to 50mph, you could be through it in 12 minutes. If you decide to drive it at 60mph it would take 10 minutes. A ten mile stretch taking 2 minutes off your journey time, is it really worth it?

Point missed completely...  Do you own a dashcam too?

This. Why risk it ?

So back to the original post, yes he will likely get banned.

I drive a lot of miles.

Cruise control at 50 and let em past.

Had a few nicks in my time but I try and stay under in those average speed checks.

Think it depends on how crucial driving is to your job. One of my advisers got done going over 100mph on m4, no ban, 6 points and big fine.

whats the point of having fast cars if you cant drive them fast :-)

Cruise control has saved me many times. I even do 30 in unfamiliar places on cruise control.

Buy a slower car  :)

Except there are never any workers actually doing work. I've seen a grand total of 3 blokes on the M3 'smart motorway' upgrade. One was a head sticking out of a hole and the other two were watching.

I know work goes on but it's no surprise people get fucked off when it goes on for month after month with not a soul to be seen actually doing anything.

Back on topic!

I got 6 points for doing 60 in a 30 zone.. sounds worse than it is - it was on the outskirts of Avebury just after they reduced it

Agree with that. Even driving through villages with the cruise control set to 30, its amazing how many cars end up in a queue behind you. Driving through Hook between Bassett & Purton is classic example, especially as you come towards Bassett, past the Bollingbroke, theres a nice bit of straight road there coming up to the motorway bridge, but still with a 30 limit. The number of cars that have overtaken me is ridiculous.

What does wind me up though, is the number of cars that totally ignore the speed limit, and drive at the same speed (usually 40-45) whether its a national Speed limit or 30 zone.

Drive through there (M25 ---> Farnborough) between midnight and 0500. Thousands of them. They work these hours to reduce the upset more than it has to be and its impractical to change the road layout nightly. This is pretty much the same for a lot of road works you see on MWAYS in daytime with no one around.

I'm surprised most people don't seem to know this. You wouldn't want the fuckers on the road during the day anyway, what with the amount of drugs they seem to take(although this is surely partly linked to having to work through the night).

It's not the case at 1.15am on the M5 through Gloucestershire

Oh yes I know that. But if the speed limit is there to protect the workforce why is it enforced there during the day? I know there are segments of narrow lane/contraflow but the only reason for it being on 24hrs seems to be to print money.

I have nothing against the blokes actually doing the work, I know they have a hard job and can't please everyone. But as far as the planning/contracting of these things goes it is undoubtedly full of bullshit and corruption.

Well, if you are happy for a convoy of Porsche or BMW Wankpanzer driving Nuggets to be honing past you at 90+ whilst you are in a very narrow lane passing a 38 tonne fully laden and imposing articulated truck also in a narrowed lane then lobby your local MP for the speed restriction legislation to be changed......

 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: I'm nicking that.

Lots of debate around the national speed limit and reducing speed on country lanes to 40... government says cost would be inhibitive because of the need to replace national speed limit signs with 40mph signs... the solution in my mind is simple.  

If a road has no road markings (i.e. central lines) then the national speed limit should be become 40mph... its ludicrous that you can restrict speed on a dual carriageway in a built up area to 40 and yet still have vehicles doing 60 on a single track country B road with no road markings, no street lights and barely enough space for 2 vehicles to pass each other

I've always thought that the speed limit was 70 motorways and dual carriageways 60 A roads 40 B roads and 30 on unclassified roads unless otherwise notified

Perhaps I am being naive but I am not sure whether it can be seen as a means of printing money as the only way they make money is if people break the law?

Nope. Unrestricted roads (National Speed Limit) 70mph on motorways and dual carriageways. 60mph elsewhere unless otherwise posted.

You then have the posted speed limits (50- 40- 30- 20 etc) unless a built up area with street lighting (can't remember the specified spacing between lamp standards) where the default limit is 30mph unless otherwise stated.

Basically, look for small speed limit repeater signs on all roads. If you don't see any then it is either 70 mph if dualled, 60 mph on rural single carriageway of 30mph if in a built up area.

Exactly.

Caveat : For cars.
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Anywho, yes if you get caught speeding then you can't complain at the fine. But there is merit at complaining why a speed camera was put somewhere - for road safety reasons doesn't always hold true. If the camera isn't there for safety purposes then what's its point.

I have not complained about the fine, I knew the rules, I have complained about the need for having average speed cameras in force at 1am when no cars or workforce is on the road.  3 lanes still open, no contraflow.

Only the 3rd time I have received a ticket for speeding in 25 odd years of driving at least 20k miles a year (all by camera).  I have a clean licence by the way..

wasn't aiming that at you Bernie, I agree with you.

Well that"s 2 more than me in 36 years odd of driving and mine was for doing 54 on a road marked as having the national speed limit :flaccid:

None for me  :icecream:

Yeah I knew you weren't aiming it at me in particular but thought I should respond to the dashcam perfect drivers.  It seems there are a few on here..

I don't have a dash cam to prove I'm a perfect driver. I have one because it will help in insurance cases. Touch wood I'll never need it. And it also reduces your premium.

And built up area is defined as having street lights less than 200 yards apart... Which most small villages don't have.. Which means you can drive at 60.... An example was Avebury - that used to be 60mph all the way through despite the fact you couldn't do 60 because of the sharp corners... It was changed to 30 about 12 years ago...